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BS: Gardening, 2009

Janie 25 Jun 09 - 10:27 PM
Bobert 25 Jun 09 - 06:57 PM
WalkaboutsVerse 25 Jun 09 - 01:03 PM
Stilly River Sage 25 Jun 09 - 11:12 AM
maeve 25 Jun 09 - 10:20 AM
Bobert 25 Jun 09 - 07:25 AM
WalkaboutsVerse 25 Jun 09 - 05:15 AM
maire-aine 25 Jun 09 - 12:09 AM
Bobert 24 Jun 09 - 08:35 PM
Janie 24 Jun 09 - 07:56 PM
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Stilly River Sage 24 Jun 09 - 07:49 PM
Janie 24 Jun 09 - 07:41 PM
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maire-aine 24 Jun 09 - 06:12 PM
Bobert 24 Jun 09 - 08:14 AM
maeve 24 Jun 09 - 05:51 AM
Janie 23 Jun 09 - 10:38 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Janie
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 10:27 PM

Two little cherry tomatoes on the first cluster are starting to pink up.

The basil and a container of fresh mozzerella eagerly await their ripening.

Oh Joy!


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 06:57 PM

Oh, all kinds of stuff, Verse...

Black kohosh, twin-leaf, trilliam, May-apple, tooth wart, mint, all kinds of grasses, native azaleas, lady slippers, a dozen or so ferns, black rasberries, gooseberries, mosses, goat's beard, noney suckle, Virgina Creeper, roses, laurel, oaks, walnuts, hickories, maples, sycamores, cedars, pines, dogwoods, etc, etc...

And we do incorporate natives with hybrids... That the fun of gardening... There's nuthin' wrong with hybridizing... It's fun and, hey, sometimes you get something really, really neat...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 01:03 PM

But what's native to your part of the world, Bobert? I swear to God, leaning that way IS better for your native fauna.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 11:12 AM

maeve, your yard sounds lovely.

Chances are the birds will build another nest and try again.

My front yard is looking good but sounds awful--we're at the bottom end of a block where the street is being torn up and the sewers replaced. The rest of the summer is going to be dusty and noisy.

There are worms in the corn. I need to research further. I sprayed BT yesterday and it didn't slow them down. This morning I manually removed or squashed all worms I could see. The corn is over knee-high now, and they're eating the center out. The first year I grow a crop is when I learn how to grow it, I don't necessarily expect to get much food. That may be the case for corn this year.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: maeve
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 10:20 AM

We have sun for the first time in a couple of weeks. My Truelove pointed out to me that my grand scheme for the cinnamon rose by the front door is finally being realized. Picture if you will a pink cinnamon rose, blooming once in the spring. Branching throughout are the intense blue blossoms of a tall cranesbill, and a pale pink clematis with dusky rose petal stripes is finally making its way up through the rosebush. It's lovely!

We've had so much rain (with other parts of the country in drought) that we've been worried about the nesting songbirds. Yesterday we found a soaking wet little grass nest with 2 tiny speckled eggs hidden under a brush pile. It had been ruined by rain and abandoned; the nestlings never had a chance to develop.

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 07:25 AM

Camellias are a fovorite of ours, as well... Problem is that about 99% of folks have been told they aren't hardy in Zone 6B... That is not at all correct... While the more southern hybrids aren't, Dr. Charles Ackerman of Maryland has made it his life's work to hybridize cold hardy camellias and we have living proff that they will florish... The main thing with them is not to put them where they will get morning sun... The sun melts the protective ice on the buds from the even coler ambiant temperatures...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 05:15 AM

Poem 9 of 230: THE CAMELLIA GARDENS

In Sydney's Sutherland Shire,
    There's a relaxing place to see:
It's called the Camellia Gardens,
    And one can wander round for free.

Down and along an escarpment
    Meanders a thin stony path;
Beside which grow the camellias -
    Beaut. autumn-blooms the aftermath.

With the evergreen-camellias
    Are a range of native species;
And, atop the leafy hillside,
    A shop sells snacks, coffees and teas.

Plus, down below, there is parkland,
    Where couples rest as children play;
And they walkabout the fish ponds,
    Or the shoreline of Yowie Bay.

(But, regarding plant selection,
    With more knowledge, over the years,
On flora, fauna and their links,
    I'd say - natives not camellias.)

From http://walkaboutsverse.sitegoz.com (e-scroll)
Or http://blogs.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse (e-book)


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: maire-aine
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 12:09 AM

I'm in the Great Lakes area, in a northern suburb of Detroit. My black raspberries are loaded, but I think they're running late because of the cool spring we had. They usually ripen over 4th of July weekend, but I think they'll be a little late this year.

Maryanne


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 08:35 PM

Pholx needs to be treated for mildew before it starts... Horticultural oil, baking soda and insecticidal soap mixed with water early in the game and no mildew...

24 houes after deer fence... Walked the entire perimeter and no breaches... Lotta deer poop just below the fence so seems the have figured out that is the new way thru the woods...

And yeah, Maggie... I loved watching that deer yesterday getting bounced back into the drive way... There is a part of me that is vengefull and I hate them critters so it delights me to see them stressed out...

So they came up into the yard last night and ate a houkara (Sp)... I think before this is over we'll probably have to fence in the yard, too which is only 150 X 150 or so... Maybe next year...

Black raspberries coming in by the gallons...

Goose(Wine)berries soon...

1st Cuke by Sunday...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Janie
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 07:56 PM

Errrr, this!


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Janie
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 07:55 PM

http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/IPM/images/tomatoes/insects/tomato_stink-bug5_zoom.jpg


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 07:49 PM

That link didn't work, and I didn't find the exact description of damage by stink bugs. But I did find this page:
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/publications/tomatoproblemsolver/ripe/ to get in the general ballpark of tomato problems.

Good site.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Janie
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 07:41 PM

maire-aine,

Where are you?

I stopped growning garden phlox because of it's propensity for powdery mildew, which is a major problem here in the humid South. The phlox inevitably spread it to other plants that are not quite so vulnerable otherwise. It is a beautiful summer plant, however, and has such a long season that it kept color in the garden during the heat doldrums of July, before the dahlias really took off, and after many other things in the garden stopped blooming until cooler temps in fall returned.

After doing some searching of images, I think maeve nailed it. I'm pretty sure it is slug damage. I mulched the pots with shredded leaves, and think I am realizing that they harbored small slugs or even slug eggs. When I dumped out some of the pots with cool season veggies that I had also mulched with leaves, I found slugs clinging to the sides of the pots beneath the soil line.

While researching the tomato damage, I solved a mystery. For years, I had thought often mottled tomatoes with white corky spots in the flesh were an indication of weather conditions. Turns out the culprit was stink bugs, which I often saw in my veggie garden, but didn't think they caused problems. Stinkbug damaged tomatoes

I'm also wondering if it is time to cut hydrangea blooms to dry. Never done it. The websites all give descriptors of what the blooms will look like, and say "late summer." I've never figured out when "late summer" is here, compared to what most plant descriptions say.    So many flowering plants that are said to be mid-summer bloomers bloom here in mid-May to to mid-June, before summer is even officially here.   "Late summer" bloomers are usually finished by the 2nd or 3rd week of July. Asiatic lilies finished here 2 weeks ago, and the orientals are starting to bloom. Echinacea is past it's first prime, and late daylilies are blooming.

Gonna miss my sun loving dahlias and tall salvias, and the tithonia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 07:08 PM

Janie, all of my big tomatoes seem to have a hole of some kind. Small, but there. I trim it out. Cherry tomatoes are okay so far.

The corn has been visited by something that eats leaves and the tender growing shoots. I used a mix of BT and fertilizer for a foliar feeding the other day, we'll see if that helps. And I'll use some BT on the tomatoes as well. Not broadcast--it clobbers butterflies, I just want to kill the caterpillars that are damaging my food plants.

Creative watering as it goes over 100. Keeping things alive, not over watering, not using so much water my bill goes through the roof. Mostly I use soaker hoses. One I have to replace, it is leaking out the patch at the end.

Corriander is coming up, but I have trouble getting plants to grow in pots here. It's so hot they just cook.

Bobert, we've never met, but I could still imagine your total glee at running that deer into the fence to give it a good test. I bet you weren't driving silently, you were whooping up a storm! :)

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: maire-aine
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 06:12 PM

I've got powdery mildew on my phlox plant, so I'm going to try Maggie's 3% peroxide solution & hope it works. It finally got over 90F (32C). Bought 2 perennial foxgloves this afternoon, so I planted them and watered them good. Lots of blossoms on my tomato plants, but I don't see any tomatoes yet.

Maryanne


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 08:14 AM

Sounds like an animal to me, Janie...


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: maeve
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 05:51 AM

Sounds like a slug, Janie. Give it a good rinse and chow down; the tomato, that is. :)

And yes; with Truelove still out of commission my days are long and full of things that needed to be done a month ago. My wrist doesn't seem to appreciate the heavy work. By evening I can't walk. Thank you for thinking of me.

Things will ease up as TL recovers and as the farm stand begins pulling in income. For now, the rains continue and many area vegetable gardens have flooded out. I'm thinking our hanging baskets of vegetables are going to be in demand. We're growing enough veggies for ourselves, the stand, and the local food bank.

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Janie
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 10:38 PM

maeve,

Our early and mid summer is your mid-spring. I think you must be frantically busy right now, but just wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you as you plant, weed, pot up, divide, mulch, etc. etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Janie
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 10:25 PM

No eggs or larva inside the tomato, but a long rasping gash on the underside with three deeper holes. I don't see any Hornworms on the plant. Would slugs do that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Janie
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 10:14 PM

Waugh!!!! picked my tomato and some insect has bored into it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 09:06 PM

Oh, it was so gratifying to see that deer just bouce off the fencing... I mean, I was lovin' every minute of it... Guess that we have laid down the new law and that means that our garden is ***our*** garden... Poor Bambi won't starve... It just won't be eatin' our ornimental plants down to the ground...

FREEDOM!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 09:00 PM

What an opportunity to run a test! Perfect! (But PETA had better not get wind about you depriving those poor creatures of precious food in your garden.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 05:51 PM

Well, well, well...

Right on schedule and on budget... The project ended up at 1320 feet of fence and here's the best part... I came up one pole short this mornin' so I drove to town to get one and upon returning there was a deer in the driveway... Now I could stopped and it would have gone down into a grassy field but I kinda pushed it toward the deer fence and then...

BINGO!!! I had the truck behind it and the only way for it to go was up the driveway with the deer fence to one side and a board fence on the other... Of course it couldn't see the deer fence so it tried several times to run beteween the poles and bounced off the fencing at least 6 times... Oh, I'm sure it was bewildered and terrified... Ask me how much I care... Music to my eyes to see that deer repelled!!!

Now I guess I can get back to, ahhhhhh, gardening...


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 03:27 PM

A beer garden party is a wonderful way to make those snails feel so welcome! I've drowned entertained dozens and dozens of them that way this year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 08:30 AM

Weeded for a hald an hour this mornuin' in the veggie garden... Got our fist cucumber makin'... Hooray!!! Other than lettuce, spinich, asperagus, onions and a few beets we ain't had much edible...

Today is the day the P-Vine has been waiting for... The Acme Deer Fence Co. will have finished stringing 1400 feet of deer fence around 2 'er 3 acres and there will be peace in the holler... Fir now, that is???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: peregrina
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 08:26 AM

Today I will plant beans again to replace the ones that were--not decimated, but totalled--by slugs. The young plants are larger and stronger than the eaten ones were.

Meanwhile: slug happy hour: drink all you like, have a swim, and don't worry about dinner.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 11:02 PM

My pot of coriander is sprouting. Just this weekend my daughter, Moonglow is her Mudcat name, was down and commented that she hates buying a bunch of coriander, using a few sprigs, and the rest rotting in the bag in the fridge. I walked her over and pointed at the little leaves appearing in a pot.

I have a trick, though, that keeps it from drying and shifting it's flavor. I pull off most of the stems so I have just a pie pan filled with leaves, then I pour boiling water over it, shallow, so they are just covered when they wilt. I pop that in the freezer so it becomes a frozen ice disk of coriander. I crack this thing into fragments so when I need some of the leaves I can usually drop the equivalent of an ice cube or two into the dish (usually beans, but sometimes I thaw it and squeeze them out for guacamole). Works very well.

I had a large tomato ripen last week, and I picked another one today that was fairly orange when I found it. So far the bugs have beaten me, I haven't had a perfect one yet, though the cherry tomatoes (4 so far, on the window sill) are good. I usually pick them once they have the orange tint on the bottom so I know they'll ripen, but the bugs and birds are just too efficient around here.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 08:33 PM

Yeah... Seven bucks for a pack of sweet slice cucumbers??? You can keep 'um...

You woulda thought that the seed companies would have been real competetive this year with so many folks planting gardens but it's like they are in cohoots...

I'm with Janie... I'll keep a few seed back at the end of the season, thank you... Imean, one could spend 50 bucks just on seeds... That is rediculous...

b~


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Janie
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 07:57 PM

My first tomato is turning pink!

Almost picked it to ripen on the sill, but think I would like to let it stay another day or so and hope a bird doesn't peck it in the meantime.

The Curly Parsley has shot up a flower stalk. That surprised me. I bought it this spring, but it must have been started late last fall or early winter to be flowering.

With the cost of seeds these days, especially organic seeds, I think I'll let it go and harvest seeds. They will be nigh as good as organic after spending the spring and summer in my garden.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 04:57 PM

I'm green with envy, Maggie...

Our pole beans and lima bean that I planted lasy week have just poked up... We still have the pole (romas) frozen from last year so they are not a major deal but no limas left...

Don't think we'll have tomatoes until ealy August... That about right for these parts... We are at 1700 feet above sea level here so that kinda keeps us behind the folks down in Luray...

Got about 60% of the deer fenxe strung today... Finish it tomorrow and then I'll have to build the two gates but I'll tack up some fence where the gates will go and we'll just have to climb under it and hold it down with rocks until I have the gates built... Of course, the P-Vine has to try to butt in and micromanage the job so we have had several disagreements over how to best build 1400 feet of deer fence... Next time I'll just let her do it... lol...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 04:37 PM

Oops. I got distracted by Little Hawk and forgot where I was. Left a MOAB post here. Oh, well, most of you have gone slumming over there so got the references.

Hot hot hot. 100 this week. I brought in more of the onions, deciding I'll use the space for more of something else. I did leave a few where they are kind of shaded by a tomato and can be used as green onions if I need any. I finished digging out an old compost heap in the back and spread it over the onion area and will plant something soon. Like I said, probably carrots and more onions, but who knows, I may decide on something else.

I ate my first bush beans last night--very tasty! I handful a day and I have enough to eat after a few days, and in theory they'll produce more as they get larger. The outer bushes seems to have had the best pollination. I'm going to put some white flowers in near the rest of them and see if that doesn't help.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 08:08 AM

Well, we planted a head lettuce this year and...

...never again... They all came in together and now we have 20-some heads of lettuce on our hands and with the heat a'comin' that mean eat it all fast or watch it go to seed... Oh well, could be worse...

Did get my first beat tops last night for supper... Yummy... Hate the beats but love their greenish purple leaves...

The Acme Tree Company and the Acme Fence Company (i.e. my construction crew) will be tackling the deer fence project today... We've got at least 5 more poles to set down in the woods where the decent hardwoods aren't close enough for spanning the fence... Plus we have 4 dead trees hung in live ones that we're going to have to pull out with the tractor and a couple more dead 'un's that need to come down now before the fence is up...

My band had rehefrsal yesterday and the harp player's girlfriend saw how well our loropetulum are doing on one of our fences... Just so happens that the P-Vine has several at the garden center that need homes... So she left us a check for 4 of them!!! That's a good thing...

Well, gotta go...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Janie
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 12:07 AM

Sorry about the apostrophe....


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Janie
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 11:13 PM

We stopped at Princeton, WV and Wytheville, VA today on the way back down to NC. They are fairly high and there was a cool wind blowing and the humidity was low.   Oh to live back in those old, low mountains in summer! Now I'm back down on the muggy Piedmont, but at least I missed the mini-heat spell with temps in the upper 90's.

Must have been some rain here over the weekend. I was pleased that none of the pots dried out.

My single apricot mums died in the pot over the winter. I thought to get some divisions from my parent's, but Dad got carried away with weeding and pruning, and managed to kill nearly all of his off this spring. Fortunately, several of my gardening Bud's down here have them, and I'm confident they will give me divisions. Think I'll wait until fall, though. It is really late to be transplanting anything here now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 07:25 PM

Nothing like that solid plonk of a cruciferous vegetable to chase off the enemy.

It's hot out, MOM, but I turned over and put compost in a couple of spots where I took out onions. I'll put in more onions and some carrots. Tomorrow. I'm not finished cooling off yet today.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 06:16 PM

The fool! They make excellent ammunition if you run out of the conventional kind.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 05:38 PM

according to Captain Wayne Keble of the Royal Navy,Brussel sprouts are the devils vegetable,he has banned them from HMS Bulwark.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 04:30 PM

I planted some carrots around the tomatoes, but the cages have been sagging sideways and most of my carrots are hidden from view. They're tough, we'll see what makes it through the summer later on.

I found a little four-sized silly ornamental wire fence to put beside the garden to collect the trimmings and weeds. Its a target to aim at, mostly. And I picked up a piece of 1/2 inch hardware cloth, so I can make a friend a compost sieve like mine (that I made many years ago and is still going strong).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 12:55 PM

companion planting,I find useful,Ihave planted tomatoes amongst brassicas to keep off the cabbage white butterfly.
I dont think tomatoes are native to Ireland ,which disproves WAVS theory.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 11:51 AM

I brought in all of the onions that had no tops, but left those that look like they'll grow some more. These will keep me supplied for a while. My daughter was down this weekend and remarked on all of the onions just scattered around the garden--if you're only used to the grocery store, I suppose a garden can seem like a foreign place, but even for a kid who grew up with a garden, it is such a nice discovery to see such great stuff just lying around! She promptly made a shopping list of all of the garden stuff she wanted for a batch of beans she is making: green bell pepper, onion, garlic, freshly dried oregano. Tomatoes aren't ready yet, so she'll have to make due with canned.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 11:12 AM

Does he have a moon suit to wear when handling that stuff?

Bobert, I don't have anything under my compost, and yes, roots do get into it at times. It's near trees, so that's bound to happen. I wonder what I'd end up with under the board if I put one down?

I was so tired from yesterday's yard work (mowed the front and the back--I often time stagger that job between a couple of days so spread out my exercise) I crashed early. Slept great, woke early. Should have walked the dogs, but didn't, so we'll do that this evening instead. I need to harvest some onions today and make way for something else to go in there, after I put down more of my compost. Carrots and more onions, I think.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: GUEST,Janie
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 10:24 AM

Mom and Dad put in several "Knockout Roses" this spring and the first thing Dad asked as my feet hit the driveway, was to figure out what was eating them up.

It appears they bought roses with rose slugs - the larva of a sawfly. I'd never heard of them and have never had problems with them. Dad is a "better garden through chemicals" kind of guy. He agreed to wait until I leave to apply it, but he is going to treat them with malathion (spelling?)

Nasty stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 08:04 PM

Maggie,

Do you have anything under yer compost pile??? Like a sheet of T-111 (pressure treated) or at the very least, some plastic??? I folunf back ion Wes Ginny that if you don't do that that roots from nearby trees will find yer compost and send up roots into it an suck out the good un's... That is a bad thing if yer gonna use the compost elsewhere...

We have a Mantis two chambered tumbler which, I'll admit, we don't use to full advantage but it will make about a half a yard of compost a month if one is dillegent... We aren't but we have good intentions... We used it alot in Wes Ginny but there we only had about an acre of gardens to keep up... Here??? It's like 2 1/2 acres and we just don't pay enough attention to our tumbler... May we need to move it closer to the house... We do have a compost pile and it's okay but the roots do get in it an' rob us of the good 'un's...

No gardening here today... Just mowing after the rain stopped... Everything looks real purdy...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 07:54 PM

Walkabouts, go preach someplace else. You are practicing zealotry, not good gardening.

I've been out baking slowly and de-cluttering an old compost pile. I usually have a new pile each year and they go back for at least three years, then no matter how slow they're working, by the third year it is usable. I'm working on this year's a little more intently, it hasn't been steaming (too hot to see any steam!) but to let it cook a little better. The first part of fixing that heap was to pull out all of the wood. Also, I've added bagged lawn clippings I collect when neighbors leave them by the curb on trash day (I use a mulching mower so I don't have any).

I have this habit of dropping trimmed branches on the compost so when the leaves dry and drop off they end up in the compost. But if I drop on more branches before removing the first batch, I end up with wood and more air pockets than make the compost work well. That was the problem with a second pile that was right up against a hackberry tree in the middle of the yard. Since my yard is so long that the far end constitutes a "view," it was a messy view in the middle of the back. I've spent a couple of weekends lopping and bundling old limbs and leaving them at the curb. The trick is to not overdo, so they think you mistook your turn for putting out bulky waste and say something about it. So, I've pretty much finished removing "undigestables" from the compost. There was a layer of Dacron batting that had come out of demolished dog beds a couple of years ago. I found that it doesn't break down, just hangs around in the dirt.

I have a shower on the back porch, and later in the summer when the water coming out of the tap is quite warm it's wonderfully decadent to shower on the back porch with all of the lights off. That keeps the mosquitoes away a little better and feels more private, though no one can see into the yard except the coyotes beyond the back gate.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 09:46 AM

Up early this morning and the P-Vine and I have been neglecting parts of the veggie garden 'cuase we were late planting some stuff and so we took a 10 X 15 portion around the yellow squash and weeded it and then put down 6 inches of straw... Took about an hour... Then the P-Vine had to go down to the garden center just as it started to rain... Feels and looks like a tropical storm here with swirling wind and thick clouds...

Harvested three beets and so I know what I'll be eatin' for supper tonight: beet tops!!! I love 'um... And they are good fir ya', as well...

Looks as if Acme Deer Fence Company will start hanging deer fence on Tuesday... Acme Tree Service worked all day yesterday trying to get all the dead trees inside the fenced area at least felled but a couple got hung in other trees which will involve some engineerin', a snapjackle, the tractor, the chainsaw and a large dose of silliness... So Monday will be eaten up trying to get dead trees seperated from live 'un's...

B


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 19 Jun 09 - 04:21 PM

Just a reminder that, as I've suggested in verse, apart from veggies and other consumables (to limit food miles, etc.), we should only plant the NATIVES with which our native fauna have evolved.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 09 - 07:39 AM

Wierd... Ran into a grey fox last night while walking in my woods...

As for yer plants drying out, Janie, if you have plastic milk jugs you can put a couple pin holes in the bottom, fill them up and they will water yer plants for a couple days...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Janie
Date: 19 Jun 09 - 02:19 AM

Headed up the Turnpike to West Virginia tomorrow night. It is going to be really hot here tomorrow and Saturday (near 100F,) and I'm concerned my tomatoes, kale and basil will dry out. I'm starting to get to know the near neighbors, but not well enough to ask them to water them for me. I'm wondering if they might fare better if I moved them to the shade of the carport.

I watered them tonight, and will water them again before I leave for work in the morning. SumYung Sun can water them tomorrow afternoon before I get home to grab him at 5:30. That will make them a bit overwatered on the front end. For those that have saucers, I can also leave water in the saucers to wick up (and breed mosquitoes.) We'll be back late Sunday evening.


Wish me live plants when I return.

It is way too late for me to be up, but because I am, I've been watching a grey fox for the last 15 minutes in the front yard, and listening to screech owls call to one another. I haven't seen a fox here before, and was a bit surprised, since I live in town. However, it is quite a small town, I live on the edge of the "townified" part. There are fields and small stands of woods very near, and farms start within just a few blocks.

At first glance I assumed it was one of the cats, then quickly realized what it was. The wind was still so none of the dogs around realized it was in the area. About 5 minutes ago a little bit of a breeze kicked up, and several dogs downwind began to bark and bay.

The fox moved on then.


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 09 - 08:10 PM

Picked a gallon of black raspberries today... We have them growing between to sections of fencing so you can get to them from both sides...

The deer fence project is consuming alot of time and energy... Weatehr permitting we'll be done by the end of next week... Lotta work... Hard work... Everything that can hurt, hurts...

Planted a couple of magnolas today that we saved from a certain death from the garden center when we started there... One will make it and ther other is still 50/50.... But they are out of those dreadfull pots they have been in for years...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Gardening, 2009
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Jun 09 - 02:26 PM

We're to the time of year when stepping into the garden involves carrying along a bucket and clippers. Brought in a few onions that were crowded or the tops had been knocked off. Tomatoes are getting big, only one on the window sill now, but soon there will be many. Lots of peppers and chard.

SRS


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