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BS: NCCAs...

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Subject: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Mar 09 - 08:10 PM

Well, my VCU Rams will play UCLA in Phili this weekend...

Go Rams...

How about yer favorites???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: artbrooks
Date: 15 Mar 09 - 08:20 PM

B-ball, Bobert? Utah men and women took the Mountain West Conference titles yesterday.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Mar 09 - 08:24 PM

Hey, I know about the NASA and the USPS and the NAACP and the LPGA and the AMTRAK. What are all those other letters about???


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Subject: RE: BS: NCAA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Mar 09 - 08:26 PM

It should be NCAA, shouldn't it, Bobert?


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Mar 09 - 08:38 PM

VCU, Joe, probably refers to the vicuna-clad football players. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Mar 09 - 09:06 PM

NCAA------

National Commission for Culture and the Arts
National Christian Counselors Association
National Center for Computer Animation
National Contract Cleaners Assoc.
National Council for Curriculum Assessment
National Commission for Certifying Agencies

One might excuse the British Columbia Times Colonist newspaper- if not Bobert- Canadians have a few players at American universities, but really know nothing about March Madness. Header for a news story- "Rautins at centre of NCCA basketball classic" (Rautins played for Syracuse a while back).

My schools are both in the tournament, Texas, and Illinois. Neither one will advance to the finals. I'll root for Binghampton Bearcats!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Mar 09 - 09:13 PM

Allright, ya'll... That's 'bout nuff pickin' on the lexdexic hillbilly...

Go Rams!!!

(Yo, Boberdz... Ya' know you ain't the best spokesman fir goin' to VCU, ya' know... I mean, 2 friggin' degrees from the joint and you still can't spell... You can't make no decent sentences, 'er nuthin')

Hey, don't blame VCU... They did ther best they could wid me... Sho nuff did... When I graduated the second time I could speel... I could type... No, okay, I couldn't type...But I could make a sentence... I swear I could...

What's vicuna??? Is this a trick question???

Go Rams!!!

Ahhhhh, ya'll gonna miss me when I'm gone off to the retard ward... I promise that... Yer gonna beg the retard ward warden tgo let me out... I promise...

Go Rams!!!

Ya'll sure it ain't the NCCAs???

Go Rams!!!

I mean, double sure???

Go Rams!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 15 Mar 09 - 10:33 PM

WhooHooo!

Go Tarheels! Go West Virginia! Go ACC!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 12:42 AM

Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond. Hey, we knew that, Beaubie.

In the South it seems that college basketball is MUCH bigger than the pros. Why is that?


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 07:57 AM

Well, Eb, I don't have an answer... Maybe it's because the Southern pro teams stink... Atlanta Hawks, Carlotte Bobcats, New Orleans Loosers, Memephis Minnies, etc...

Then you have like UNC and Duke which year after year are winners...

BTW, some folks don't know that VCU is in Richmond... Well, they should now that VCU is playing UCLA in the NCAAs (NCCAs, CNNAs) 'er whatever...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: karen k
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 08:17 AM

UConn - women (only unbeaten team in the country) and men (#1 seed in the west. I live for basketball season.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 08:31 AM

Basketball. Ptui. It has not been the same since they took the bottom out of the peach basket and created the three-point line. Ptui. A bunch of people who dribble all over the floor and make others clean it up. Ptui.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 08:34 AM

Back in my day it was REAL basketball. We didn't use no pads or helmets or shin guards and if you we knocked out by a hurley or a high-sticking, tough, you laid where you fell.

Basketball. Ptui. A game for sissies and girly-men.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 10:40 AM

I'll be filling out a bracket today. I don't believe I'll be picking VCU to win in the first round.

"Why?" you ask. 1) In Los Angeles no team named the Rams is looked upon favorably since the professional ones deserted for St. Louis. 2) UCLA is my Alma Mommy, albeit they didn't win their first championship until the season immediately following my graduation.

Go BRUINS!!!!!!

While these may not be my final picks, I lean toward UCLA beating VCU, Villanova, Duke, Florida State, Oklahoma and Connecticut, thereby hanging a 12th banner in Pauley Pavilion. Of course, no money goes with this dream scenario.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: PoppaGator
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 01:54 PM

"Maybe it's because the Southern pro teams stink... Atlanta Hawks, Carlotte Bobcats, New Orleans Loosers, Memephis Minnies, etc..."

Hey now! Better take that back about the resurgent New Orleans Hornets! (Those guys in Atlanta are another young up-and-coming NBA squad, too, for that matter ~ much as I hate to say anything nice about any Atlanta team!)

I've followed college hoops less this season than I have in many years. The Hornets have claimed most of my sports-TV attention, plus which my alma mater has had a pretty disappointing season...

I'll still be filling out a bracket. I'm as likely to get lucky during a year when I have very little actual knowledge of the teams as in any other year ~ after the usual bunch of 1st-and-2d-round upsets, it all comes down to dumb luck anyway!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 05:15 PM

Tell me when yer Hornets are ready for a 7 games series against Cleveland, Boston or the LA Lakers, P-Gator... But don't listen to me... I'm a Bullets (wiz-ards) fan???

Yeah, let the Hornets win a couple championships and maybe fols in the South will have something to cheer about but face it... The Southern pro sports teams suck...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Ref
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 05:43 PM

I used to love this tournament. It's great to watch, even if you have no real rooting interest, when everyone knows it's "Win or go home." I've gotten really turned off, though, by people yelling about March Madness and the completely dreadful "bracketology", which, whenever I hear it, makes me want to punch someone in the teeth. Fer Jeebus sakes, it's basketball and they'll do it again next year. Quit trying to make your stupid betting pools into some kind of science. I refuse to be subjected to all the attendant marketing.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 05:49 PM

go cubs


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Ref
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 06:45 PM

Yeah, Rap. Time for Real Sports! Six Nations and the MFL.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 06:46 PM

I mean, what sort of "sport" is basketball when you don't even have to tape your ears?


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 07:01 PM

Rapaire's problem is that he just doesn't understand today's basketball. "They dribble on the floor and someone else has to clean it up"? That may be how you did it, Rap, but that's not what it means these days.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 07:23 PM

Yeah! They make them wear absorbent jocks now!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Ref
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 07:28 PM

Ah, yes. I remember ear-taping. I think these players today are missing out when they just tie on a cap. Of course, I got grief from the old guys about using pre-wrap on my head!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 07:37 PM

BTW, SunsetJohn... You be sure to tell them SoCal boys to bring extra shoes 'cause VCU plays some serious defense and VCU is gonna run them boys thru all the tread on one pair in the 1st half... CAA ball ain't like SoCal ball... We play defense in these parts...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 09:29 PM

Hey, UCLA can do anything or nothing. For cripes sake, they got beat in the first round by Princeton. Princeton!?

Then again, they won the whole thing against Arkansas with out their starting guard, play maker, Tyus Edney who played nary a minute.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 01:48 PM

I have completed my tournament brackets;

The Elite Eight I've picked are Florida St/UCLA, No. Carolina/Oklahoma, Connecticut/Memphis, Michigan State/Wake Forest.

Final Four--WF/Conn; UCLA/Oklahoma

Championship UCLA beating Connecticut


Disclamer---If I had money on this thing, UCLA would lose to Texas, which would lose to Florida state, which would lose to Oklahoma, which would make Connecticut the NCAA champion


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 02:39 PM

Kerry, or failing that, Munster.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Ref
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 06:36 PM

I'm a Canterbury and All Blacks fan, m'self.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: artbrooks
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 06:44 PM

Utah all the way...based primarily on sentiment. The touts are saying they won't get past Arizona.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 07:35 PM

Utah may be a surprise. I don't think they can get by Louisville, however.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 07:50 PM

FWIW, I have Utah losing in the first round, but if they do get by Arizona, I don't believe they will beat Wake Forest who I've picked to win the Midwest Region (see my Final 4 above.)


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 08:15 PM

UCLA winning it all???

Don't Bogart that joint my friend
Pass it over to me...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 08:36 PM

Did Bobert not read my disclaimer....hahahaha.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 08:48 PM

No, I did read it, John... Jus' funnin' wid ya'... Actually, I have UCLA goin' down in the 1st round to my alma mater, VCU...

But like my daddy used to say, "Different opionions is what make a horse race..."

BN~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 09:04 PM

Well, it looks like one of us will be disappointed. How far beyond UCLA do you think they can go...realistically, I mean?


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: raredance
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 01:24 AM

my ideal final four:

Tarheels, Badgers, Bison, Golden Bears


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 08:25 AM

Well, John, how far the Rams can go is kinda tough... They do have a history of winning first round games to big names... They once beat No. 1 seed Georgetown... And they also beat Duke two years ago in the last few seconds on an Eric Maynor shot... BTW, Eric is still on the team and is legit NBA level talent...

But realisticly, I don't see VCU getting to the Sweet Sixteen... One front court player shy...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 08:26 AM

My final four:

Moose Drool, Dead Guy, Belligerent Ass, with Iron City a distant contender.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: artbrooks
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 09:28 AM

Very distant...I favor Arrogant Bastard as the fourth.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 10:47 AM

Go Iron City!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 09:58 PM

Will be happy if I see WV go to the Sweet 16 again. Their basketball program is coming right along, and they were quite competitive in the Big East this year.

From the ACC, Clemson is out. I'm not much of a fan, but they have done well this year and I'm sorry for them that they were edged by Michigan.

Ty Lawson's big toe worries me. Roy Williams is going to hold him out as long as possible, but if he has to play to insure UNC wins before the Elite 8, there is no way he can be at 100% down the home stretch. UNC is very, very good, without him. But they are going to have to be much better than very, very good.

This southerner loves college basketball and college lacrosse, but has never, ever had any interest in any pro sports, basketball included.

Thread drift - are there no other lacrosse fans on Mudcat?


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Mar 09 - 07:51 AM

Well, seein' as the VCU/UCLA game was going to last well past my bedtime, I elected to not even watch the beginning but...

...sniff... Looks as if VCU came up on two pointer shy of a victory, 65-64... Must have been a purdy good game... UCLA only had 65 total points??? I told everyone that VCU plays some serious D...

Oh well, congrates to John on the Left Coast as well as any other UCLA fans...

B:~)


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 20 Mar 09 - 08:44 AM

Tarheels, Schmarheels.

Duke says, "Bring It On!"

... but we can still drink beer and fight over the chee-tos, Janie :)

Dani (a budding lacrosse fan, now that Janie's son has explained a little to me)

PS: Oh YEAH! That reMINDS me! Didn't Duke beat the snot out of UNC at lax last weekend? I think they DID!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 20 Mar 09 - 11:09 AM

Bobert --

You certainly missed a good game! Just when I thought (several times) that UCLA was putting the game away, back came your Rams. The game ended as all good games should, the last possession was for all the marbles. Sanders, when he gets his body under control, is going to be a great big-man...he reminds me of Venus Williams in her first year on the tennis tour with her uncontrolled talent. And we all now how Venus has done.

I was 13 for 16 last night, including Michigan's upset of Clemson.

John on the Sunset (not Left) Coast.
Hardly any thing or thought of mine is ever 'Left'. LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 10:45 AM

rEfresh for de fans


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 12:03 PM

Wow, John... I finally got around to reading the game summary and, though I didn't see it, sounds as if UCLA had a luck at the end of the game... That last shot is Eric Maynor's signiture shot... The same one that beat Duke in the NCAA's 2 years ago and the one that just before the end of the 1st half or end of the game he'll sink 75% of the time...

Watch for Maynor in the pros... Maybe not a 1st rounder but a definate 2nd rounder... Nice kid, too...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 07:39 PM

My dream has ended. UCLA got a woopin' and that's putting it mildly.

They looked like they were still in Westwood.

Alma Mommy RIP


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 07:51 PM

Sorry, John...

Looks like both our almas have bit the dust... Problem is that there ain't many other teams I'd root for... Is Western Kentucy still in??? IF so, I'll root for them... They are alot like VCU... Scrappy...

BTW, there was a very sad story in the Washington Post todat written by Michael Wilbon and he says that that VCU's coach, Anthony Grant, is so hot a property that VCU will not be able to keep him another year... Tough being a minor-major... Hard to recruit the big time players and hard to keep coaches or players that shine... That really sucks... Imean, how does a school ever move up when they get raided by the big boys and can't recruit on a level playing field...

VCU is a state college and ain't no way that a state college is gonna be able to dangle the big bucks to finance a big bucks program...

I hope, fir yer sake, that UCLA stays an elite program 'casue it ain't easy in the NCAA's if you ain't from one of the elites...

Maryland's coach, BTW, refuses to pay the dough to the summer leagues that is required to get the top talent... He recruits the old fashion way... Probably dumb but he's got his principles...

Look where it got Maryland today...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: olddude
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 07:53 PM

sorry Bobert
it is the Tarheels


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 09:08 PM

Well, yeah... They are as close to a pro-team there is in college basketball... I mean, lets get real here, oldster...There's alot of money that is being paid those players... Lots... Oh sure, it's wink, wink... But lots of money...

Some of their players have probably been on the dool since the 9th grade...

Can I offer proof... No, not yet...

Seems that the 3 part Washington Post article that came out a couple months ago had lots of un-named sources....

Yeah, go Tarheels... America's best paid college team...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: artbrooks
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 09:57 PM

Well, Utah also went down to ignominious defeat..no more sports for me until bicycle racing starts.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 11:09 PM

Bobertz, luv, them's fightin' words!

UNC is real, real good. But so are a bunch of teams - some of whom have gotten beat already.   The level of college play across the board is phenomenal - as is the money generated by college football and basketball.

These UNC kids are as talented as anyone, and sure, they all be dreamin' of the NBA, but UNC also has a heck of a record for their players graduating, even if they come back after going to the NBA to finish. their degrees.   Both Duke and UNC have significant retention rates -probably close to the best, if not the best - for these guys finishing college before heading to pro ball. I don't know about the rest of the ACC, but at Duke, Carolina, and Wake, these young men (and women on the women's teams), the academic requirements are still in place, and they are not given a free pass.

I know money talks and BS walks. The tradition and the level of play on Tobacco Road has certainly led to a bunch of money. Money definitely buys talent. But at the good schools that also have good basketball teams, those players also have bonafide academic expectations.

I am assuming the same is true for other colleges with rigorous academic standards that also field good sports teams. - No matter how good you are at athletics at these schools, you also need the brains and motivation to pass your classes. The profs, protective of the academic reputation of the school, are not simply going to give these guys a decent grade if they haven't earned it.

What is exciting to me is that schools like WV and VCU, where they don't have big budgets and huge basketball traditions - still field teams that on any given night, is capable of beating the demonstratebly best teams in the nation.

That is why I like college basketball.


Go Heels! Go Duke!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:36 PM

All the #1 seeds still in the hunt, and Arizona chugging right along.

Hope the 'Heels stay healthy. Hope Duke beats Pitt, then hope Carolina beats Duke.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: maire-aine
Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:54 PM

I didn't fill out any brackets, but I am rooting for Michigan State. They won tonight, so keep it up Spartans.

Maryanne


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Mar 09 - 08:58 PM

No, Janie... There's a reason why NC is good... There's a reason why UCon is so good...

There's a dirty little secret about how kids get recruited and where they end up going to college that has alot to do with money... And lots of it...

But nevermind that story...

Hey, other than the CAA, the ACC is my conference... Okay, I tend to be a Maryland fan but when it comes down to final 4, if UNC is the only ACC team left (which I think is allready the scenerio) then, yeah, I'll root for UNC...

Heck, the P-Vine is a Carolina gal, right???

And so are you, right???

Go Tar Heels!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 22 Mar 09 - 09:32 PM

Well sure, Beaubear. Big Time college sports is about big time money.

It's still fun.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: PoppaGator
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 03:45 PM

Haven't checked into this thread for a while. I had picked VCU on my bracket in Bobert's recommendation; I don't feel too bad about it, since they put up such a good showing.

My own school didn't make the tournament this year (and even got an early boot out of the NIT), so I'm free to root for all the underdogs in the NCAA. I was glad to see Cleveland State make it to the second round, for instance.

The superstar recruiting by the big rich schools has become a sort of double-edged sword since so many of the best players leave early for the NBA ~ even moreso now that the pros no longer will take kids straight from high school. The big-budget colleges compete for those gigantic kids with well-honed skills only to see them wave goodbye after a single season. I think this leads to "parity," since a smaller ("mid-major") college program can sign some of the almost-that-good players, coach them well while they're still under the pro scouts' radar, and keep them in the program for a full four years, developing all the while.

A team like that, with a full complement of junior and senior starters, can do very well against a big-name school with big-name freshman and sophomore players who will bolt for the NBA early, based upon their "upsides."

As for my NBA Hornets ~ all I can say is wait and see how they do in the playoffs. They're probably an even better team than they were last year, if all the guys can get and stay healthy for the postseason. Their current record is only 4 games worse than at the same time last year, but they have lost FAR more player-games to injury this year than last.

They can beat and have beaten the Celtics and Lakers, although they lost both meetings with Cleveland this year. With luck (on the injury front), and with continued improvement on the part of the "role-players" (especially the phenomenally athletic Julian Wright), the sky's the limit.

Chris Paul, by the way, is not getting as much MVP "buzz" now as he did last year, but ALL of his individual stats are improved, and he is still at least as criticallly valuable to his team as he was last season, and as anyone is to any team. The guy is an absolute magician with the ball; I've never seen anything like it since Bob Cousy. Of course, Cooz didn't have to play above the rim back in the 50s-to-early-60s, and he could still get away with a set shot in lieu of a jumper. Chris, supposedly 6 feet tall but probably no taller than 5'10/11" in real life, is right at home among all those huge opponents, outrunning, out-quicking, and even outjumping them (6 rebounds/game). Those of you who haven't had many chances to see him on TV in the regular season are in for a treat if you keep an eye on the Hornets in the playoffs.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 06:29 PM

Well, now that VCU is out it looks as if I'll be rooting for any team that isn't wearing the white jerseys...

Go Hilltoppers!!!

(Are they still in, Boberdz???)

I think so but I'm not sure...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: olddude
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 06:59 PM

Bobert
my team is actually Syracuse I agree with you about the tar heels. I am being realistic ... no one will beat them and I am not a tar heel fan at all


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 07:11 PM

Give em Hell U of L!!!

The Cardinals will triumph. It is their Destiny. There shall be a great noise of celebration up and down Third Street. The Thinker shall wear a victory ball cap.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Big Mick
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 07:22 PM

Sorry, Ernie........ It's Pittsburgh's year.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 07:27 PM

I've got an idea, Mick. How would you look in a Louisville ball cap?


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 07:28 PM

Come to think of it, you already have a Cardinals hat, don't you?


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Big Mick
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 07:31 PM

I was hoping you would ask. I was looking for an excuse to get even. I have another bottle of bourbon to throw in as well........

I love tradition.........


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 07:41 PM

Ok then, as long as its Knob Creek.

So you are going to the Getaway I take it? So let's see if I have this right. If Louisville wins it all, you wear the Cardinals cap to the Getaway. If Pittsburg does, I'll wear a Partridge hat, or whatever their team is called. Winner gets bottle of liquor of choice.

There is also a chance that Louisville and Pitt could meet in the finals, in which case we might have to ratchet the stakes up another notch. What say you, SpudMan?


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 08:21 PM

....Ahem....Spudman and Lonely Eel.....

I think you both would look real cute in one of these!.

A good Cab is my poison of choice.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 09:03 PM

friggin baby-blue!!!?

I can't wait to hear you and Mick harmonizing on My Old Kentucky Home while wearing your Louavul caps!

The cab doesn't sound like a half-bad choice though....


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 12:54 AM

That would be "Carolina Blue," the color of the sky here in the southern part of heaven.

But should prefer a different style, let me suggest this..

Or perhaps you would prefer this style.

(Be careful Janie, or you might find yourself wearing headgear of the same ilk, only in a different color.)


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 01:05 AM

*sob* Purdue just knocked off the Carolina Women's team.


You know, I have never been able to attend one of the Men's games, but have been to a few of the Women's college games for Carolina or Duke. (Tickets are cheaper and much easier to come by.)

Every bit as exciting and explosive as the men's games. College sports at it's best. Top notch athletes, and if the money game bothers you, it is not nearly as much of a factor in Women's sports.

(Women's lacrosse is especially exciting-no pads, no "cups". Not only are they superb athletes, the way women's lacrosse is played, the athletic finesse is incredible.)


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 08:32 PM

Janie

Could you manage to wear
this?

That's one mean looking Cardinal. Back in the late 60s when I was there, we had a more sophisticated bird with a white tux and tails and he didn't look nearly as pissed off. In fact, he had a girlfriend who had a very attractive smock she wore to the games. Maybe that's why he was more well adjusted in those days. Now he's single, naked, and looks like he's been on human growth hormone.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 09:04 PM

I remember those days - back when there was such a thing as good sportsmanship expected from spectators?


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Ref
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 06:22 PM

OT, Janie, but I gotta point out that women's lacrosse is quite a dangerous game for the players these days. Girls coming up are learning the game playing with boys, in pads and face-masked helmets. While I see the point of keeping some of the physical play limited, they need to go, at least, to the helmets and full face guards. I agree that lacrosse, generally, is a great game for players and spectators!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 07:20 PM

Well, well, well...

Seems that VCU's coach, Anthony Grant, has been interviewed a 2nd time by Alabama (SEC) so, as I predicted, my alma matta is gettin' fleeced again by the big money schools...

Sucks...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 07:32 PM

That's true, Ref. My son played in recreational lacrosse leagues from age 6 thru 14 when he aged out. (He is in a small private Quaker school that doesn't field a lacrosse team, and the rec. leagues stop at the end of middle school.) There wasn't a league for girls. The rec. leagues allowed girls to play, but they were learning men's lacrosse, not women's lacrosse.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 11:50 AM

These are my revised picks for the the tourney...with my alternate pick from my original post, Connecticut, winning it all.

Today:
Connecticut beats Purdue
Memphis bests Missouri
Pittsburgh outlasts Xavier
Villanova wins over Duke

Saturday:
Conn. over Memphis
Pitt. beats Villanova

Friday:
Louisville over Arizona
Michigan State over Kansas
Oklahoma beats Syracuse
No. Carolina edges Gonzaga

Sunday:
Louisville beats M. State3
Oklahoma beats No. Car.

Final Four:
Connecticut over Louisville
Oklahoma bests Pitt.

Championship Game: (My original alternate pick)
Connecticut over Oklahoma


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 12:37 PM

John, interesting, but I don't see OU advancing past Syracuse.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 06:56 AM

Duke-Villy       **OUCH**


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:22 PM

..............................................................................................................shhhhh.............................................................................................................................. (    go 'heels)


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 10:30 PM

Sooners win big...Louisville murdered Arizona (and it wasn't even that close!).

Missouri upset Memphis. Mrs. Sunset Coast happy.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Mar 09 - 02:36 AM

Yep, John, you picked the winner right on the OU game.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: maire-aine
Date: 29 Mar 09 - 07:07 PM

Great news for Spartan fans-- MSU beat Louisville to make it into the Final Four. Since Detroit is the host city for the Final Four, we're all very excited here.

Go Spartans!!!

Maryanne


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 29 Mar 09 - 07:21 PM

WoooHooo! Go 'Heels!

Hope they get past Villinova.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 29 Mar 09 - 07:23 PM

&%$#@! the Spartans!

Well, the Cardinals are out. Pitt is out. I just hope somebody beats the *%@?% Tarheels so I don't have to wear a ?>*$% baby blue hat to the Getaway.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 29 Mar 09 - 10:04 PM

Oh well (sigh), I've still got UConn. Glad no $$$ were involed in my picks.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Mar 09 - 10:25 PM

Do you have any IDEA how hard it is to stay asleep when the person you're sleeping with reads in the paper that her grad school (rhymes with Villanova) is in the semifinals?

And it's all Bobert's fault.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 29 Mar 09 - 11:12 PM

I was in Durham waiting for my son who was in an Arnis class for the 1st half of the Carolina/Oklahoma game, so went to a sports bar to watch it. Being in Durham, the bar was mostly inhabited by Duke fans cheering mightily for Oklahoma.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 08:29 AM

Go Tarheels...


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 03:53 PM

Showoff -- hahahaha

UConn is the wonn!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 04:19 PM

Figuring out how to do that was a great excuse to not open up Turbotax this morning;^)


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 08:38 PM

Well, well, well...

Looks as if one of the dark colored jerseys has won... Go Michigan State!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 08:56 PM

That was a good ball game! I didn't expect Michigan State to dominate it to the extent they did.

Carolina game about to start. Time to go start chewing on my nails.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 08:58 PM

Stick a fork in me...you'll find I'm donn.

If basketball continues on its current path, I expect roundballers to be wearing pads in a few years. There was more contact in that game--in fact many games--than the sport was meant to have.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 09:32 PM

I have to agree with you, John.

Read an article recently that there is a lot more contact and roughness in college ball than pro-ball.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 11:38 PM

Well, there goes THOSE plans for Monday night. Can't wait for this game!

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: maire-aine
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 11:44 PM

Well, MSU is going to play UNC.

Go Green! Go White!

Maryanne


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 11:46 PM

On to the Final!

If you watched the game, you know that Villanova made Carolina work hard.

LEJ, you notice that Big Mick didn't have enough courage to come back once I entered the fray with the Tarheels. Not sure if it was the fear factor, or shame at not backing his home boys from the outset :O) Hope to see you in that lovely baby blue in October.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Apr 09 - 08:20 AM

Well, well, well...

Rootin' against NC is one of my most beloved hobbies with rooting for the underdog a close second so bring Monday night on!!!

Go dark jersies!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 05 Apr 09 - 09:35 AM

Yeah, where IS Mick?

There is wagering in the air...

Want to raise the stakes: coffee and breakfast served 'en cabine' @ Getaway?

Do you think your boys are ready for some North Carolina basketball?! Even I have to have some grudging respect for them for putting down our beloved Duke boys.

Dani


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From: Janie
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 07:13 PM

Tonight's the night....


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 07:13 PM

Oh!

100!


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From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 07:42 PM

I'm not sure if Mick feels like he was committed to the bet beyond Pitt and Louisville. I was the one who goaded Janie into jumping in, thinking she AND Mick would end up with a red hat. Looks like I could easily end up with a blue one, though, and I'm committed.
so....GO SPARTANS!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 07:46 PM

Here I go, making assumptions again. Sorry, Mick!

But someone's got to root for those poor boys!

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 08:44 PM

Naw - Mick's just chicken!


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From: Janie
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 08:57 PM

And Dani - whaddaya mean, those poor boys! MSU is flat out playing great basketball, and they are going to have a huge crowd cheering them on tonight.

I hope both teams play well, and that the finish has us all on the edge of our seats.

Go Heels!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 09:09 PM

Go Bullets!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Big Mick
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 11:27 PM

Hi folks, what's goin' on? Anyone up for a jello pit? Howzabout them Mets. Shitty weather, eh?

Janie. ...2 ......3 ....... 4 ........ BITE ME!!!!!!

mutter ..... grumble ..... piss ........ moan

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 12:10 AM

Powder Blues

I rather drive around on a tire that's flat
Than wear an ol powder blue tarheels hat
Rather sleep in the shed with a yeller tomcat
than wear an ol powder blue tarheels hat

Though the cat might bite and the tire get flatter
I got to wear a blue hat and the rest don't matter

%#*&, anyway


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 12:12 AM

WE ARE CAROLINA!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 12:48 AM

Well, at least the President has gotten one thing right so far.

Good for your heels, janie.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Big Mick
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 10:51 AM

The only good thing about North Carolina is Janie......



muttering still...... grumbling still ....... still pissing and moaning ......

.... and their friggin' heels bball team ..

he says grudgingly..... more mutter ..... more grumble ....... still pissing and moaning .....


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Janie
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 12:33 PM

Just think, LEJ, your hat will match my eyes!


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Tinker
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 02:18 PM

Hey Janie, maybe I'll throw in some Carolina Blue Cryin' Towels for the boys... or hmmmmmm


tink


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: PoppaGator
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 02:38 PM

I'm amused that, after the tournament is all over, the title of this htread remains uncorrected!

(It's NCAA! Nat'l Collegiate Athletic Assn)


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Big Mick
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 02:46 PM

Ya think?


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 05:02 PM

Actually I think the initials quite apt.

Nazi-like Control of College Athletics.


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Subject: RE: BS: NCCAs...
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 06:28 PM

I'm with John on this one...

The entire college athletics is corrupt as it can be...

I say, just quit the wink, wink stuff that goes on and pay the kids to play over the table rather than under the table...

Face it, most of these kids ain't exactly college amterial and are there for one reason... 'Cause they can play ball... Pick a ball. Don't much matter...

Just pay 'um and quit all the BS lies about how things really work...

I mean, you got these kids drivin' around in $50K cars... Where'd they get them??? Working at the college bookstore for 7 bucks an hour???

The worst part about the current corrupt system is that some schools are better off financially and can buy the best players... NC has always been able to buy the very best high school kids...

I think that colleges should have salary caps for their players... That way my alma matta, VCU, would have the same amount of money allowed to pay its players as NC or UCon... Then kids would go where they wanted to go...

I mean, the playin' field has been tilted toward about 20 Division 1 schools going back decades...

Time to clean it up...

Go Bullets!!!

B~


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