BS: BNP: What would you do?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Royston
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 01:48 PM

On the subject of convictions held by BNP members, it is interesting to look at some of their overseas convictions.

The founder of the BNP's Hereford chapter is Lambertus Nieuwhof, a South-African white supremacist and leading member of the AWP, a terrorist group in the old SA run by Eugene Terre-Blanche.

He was convicted of planting a 25kg bomb in a primary school in 1992. The bomb failed to go off which is the only reason he got a tragically lenient sentence from an apartheid-era court of 12 months SUSPENDED!

He also runs the BNP website/forum and if you want to ask him about it, you can reach him at 101 Crossways, Peterchurch, Herefordshire, HR2 0TG; or by phone on 01981 550888.

Nieuwhof's "thing" is advancing white-power by sparking race-war. Hence the plan of his, amongst others, to murder children at a school that "threatened" to go multi-racial.

Welcome to the cuddly world of BNP 2009.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Royston
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 01:42 PM

you are seriously disturbed...

Nah, not really. I could never agree with harming or killing another person, but if certain people fall on their own sword then, well, GOOD! One less Nazi to be looking out for.

I am sure that some fascists would dance on my grave (probably dressed and made-up as B&W Minstrels)

C'est la vie.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 12:30 PM

you are seriously disturbed...

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Royston
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 12:29 PM

And Luke Smith, the BNP councillor who glassed a fellow activist at the party's 'family festival', hanged himself...

One down...

A journey of a thousand miles begins with one step!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 11:59 AM

from Ray Davies's song Over The Edge from The Kinks album Phobia (1993)

"My next door neighbour's totally snapped
Ever since he got laid off
Something inside snapped
His wife says he's gone 'round the twist
Now there's no turning back
All night he waits in the garden shed
For the enemy to attack
A suburban vigilante
Dressed up in a union jack
He's over the edge, oh, over the edge"

sounds familiar.........

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 04:06 AM

Not a word from BNPGeorge, by the way. I emailed her a week ago (through PM here and via Facebook) with the questions that had been posted on the Mudcat.
A naive part of me hopes she read the questions and thought "My God, is that true? Is this the bunch of fascist thugs I'm promoting?", and is now sitting in a darkened room somewhere morally detoxing.
Given her angry response earlier, however, the more realistic side of me concedes that she's gone to the bad and is probably revelling in her perceived victim status.
From what I heard the singarounds at the 'Red, White & Blue' festival aren't a patch on those at Chippenham or Sidmouth. Tomorrow Belongs to Me and the Horst Wessel Lied get a little tedious after a while...

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 03:54 AM

Interesting list, Richard. Sadly it's a bit out of date - there are more convictions that should be added. And Luke Smith, the BNP councillor who glassed a fellow activist at the party's 'family festival', hanged himself in July last year, the day before he was due in court on charges of assault against a pub landlord

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 03:05 AM

A list of criminal convictions of BNP people

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 07 Jul 09 - 12:00 PM

Frankly this whole who's who paranoia thing is deflecting away from the main issue, the enemy, the BNP (mind you this what those thugs want)

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 06:03 PM

It may of course be that her politics are right wing - I do not know - but she is real. She and Charlotte are one and the same.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 02:24 PM

Thanks, VT. I withdraw my remarks and request.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 02:20 PM

I think RB was simply intimating that dillie is NOT a BNP troll, because she is known to him and/or others he knows.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 02:05 PM

"Dillie is fairly well known."

That said, who then is Dillie? Not like it's a state secret or anything . . . right?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 04 Jul 09 - 04:19 PM

It was more of a rhetorical question than anything else

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jul 09 - 04:14 PM

Dillie is fairly well known. Just don't ask Kev the Clogs for a character reference: they have different views on Broadstairs.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 04 Jul 09 - 12:23 PM

wonder if this person is related to charlotte the oast ouse opper?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 04 Jul 09 - 11:47 AM

I was at the Peter Boat Leigh on Sea on both Friday and Saturday evenings. I sang mostly Odetta (American folk). Which one were you?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 04 Jul 09 - 06:23 AM

Don't think I know you dillie. Have we met?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,dillie the oast ouse opper
Date: 04 Jul 09 - 05:43 AM

Where are they getting these photographs from Virginia ? did you go to the Peter Boat in June ? sessions ranged from rousing to thought provoking to hilarious and mildly obscene. I was in awe of so much talent.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 04 Jul 09 - 05:00 AM

Well the bastards have now put up 2 more fake profiles on facebook, using combination of my name and picture with those of my husband.

My husband is not even on facebook, but he has spoken against the BNP on Mudcat.

We have both reported the fake profiles to facebook.

might be time to infiltrate the BNP with spies.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Dan Plews
Date: 04 Jul 09 - 04:54 AM

Re: From: meself
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 04:34 PM

The latest mysterious "guest". If he's a friend of yours, and you can vouch for his good character, then I withdraw my remark. But I'm suspicious of someone who revives a dead BNP-related thread in order to ridicule a poster critical of the BNP.



How mysterious am I?
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22dan+plews%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
...Wonder what would come up if I googled "meself"...I didn't realise you had to know someone to post...John's post is funny because of what he says, not his spelling, if that's what you're assuming. And even if I were ridiculing an anti-BNP post (which I am not) that would not imply support for the BNP, just that the post itself was ridiculous. And there are plenty of those on this subject I'm sure. OK?
On this subject, and since this is a music forum, I'd welcome comments on my blog "Facebook, BNP and Folk Music" which has some lyrics on this subject too. http://blog.myspace.com/danplews

Yours
Dan Plews

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 Jul 09 - 12:47 PM

LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 02 Jul 09 - 12:08 PM

thankyou, i see a serious session coming on!! i do have the right thing for the job, we have some of those corkscrew things that tie the dogs up!!

now bend over, this won't hurt abit!!

jade x x

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 02 Jul 09 - 11:57 AM

"i think i would give them a rogering, if i had the right equipment!!"

*LOL*

Jade, I have a longgggggg barge pole, well over ten feet, that you can borrow ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 Jul 09 - 11:50 AM

Jade, you shock me! I thought you to be a woman of impeccable taste! :-) :-)

The 'right equipment' IMHO would be a red-hot poker. They don't like it up 'em Captain Mainwaring! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 02 Jul 09 - 11:27 AM

i think i would give them a rogering, if i had the right equipment!!, using condoms of course!

jade x x

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 02 Jul 09 - 11:16 AM

"Fuck the BNP."

no thanks STD's are not my thing, sorry

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Jul 09 - 11:44 AM

I think that's rather witty of the black youths. I'd have asked them to sing a song at that point.

But I have just had a flash of light! I know what to do to the BNP.


Give Bearded Bruce honorary membership. THen he will have his own band of stormtroopers and ACTUALLY be able to invade "populist" countries in stead of merely dreaming about it.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 01 Jul 09 - 04:44 AM

Even if we're not concerned, the blackface morris issue is generating heat on the Stormfront fascist forum.
From member 'Bonny Green Garters':It's time for me to confront my 'friends' in the Morris and show them what is really happening in our once Great Country... Before any more of them decide to remove me from their Facebook 'Friends' lists...
And, from the same morris-dancing nazi: I was once part of a black-faced Morris side doing our occasional annual Summer weekend tour of Brighton. We were apprehended by some Black youths shouting, ''Hey! I know why you guys black your faces ! " Nervous embarrassed dismissive silence from my middle-class middle-aged liberal dancing mates.. "It's cos Black is Cool !!" the Blacks replied. So I suppose that's alright then..

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 06:57 PM

quite!!!!

jade x x

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 05:27 PM

Fuck the BNP.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: meself
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 04:34 PM

The latest mysterious "guest". If he's a friend of yours, and you can vouch for his good character, then I withdraw my remark. But I'm suspicious of someone who revives a dead BNP-related thread in order to ridicule a poster critical of the BNP.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Frozen Gin (inactive)
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 04:29 PM

"Troll alert."

and the troll is whom?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: meself
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 01:15 PM

Troll alert.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 12:39 PM

i got it. the spelling isn't important it just has to make sense, like i can talk about spelling!! lol

giving guns to everyone who only makes it through basic training is bloody scary.talk about giving someone the go ahead to murder!!!!!

take care all

jade x x x

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Emma B
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 12:38 PM

jOhn's off the wall humour was always a welcome addition to mudcat - good to see his posts again
- but don't mention hampsters :)

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 12:29 PM

bloody hell, Dan THAT took me 5 reads before I got what the person was on about, mind you I'm still not quite sure what he means by a short hare

right I'm off to get some fresh hare......

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Dan Plews
Date: 30 Jun 09 - 12:14 PM

I've been reading the threads on the BNP and just wanted to thank one of the contributors to another thread (I found his last posting on this one so hope he's reading)
Your comments made me laugh loud and long. I've included them below for anyone who missed but might enjoy them. Apologies if that's not the done thing.
Dan Plews

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 07:39 PM

Bnp are rubbissh, [really rubbisah, most rubbish people i ever herd of],
you can see this for yousdelf, just look at the bnp people=ie
= they are look like evil bastards, and look like thugs, and very bad people, i seen them on telly, they look very bad [lilke fighting people, ie them people waht like to make trubble, and they all got really short hare, [like skinheds], and you can tell they are bad , just by look at them, and they piss me off.


there new idea is= give all ex army people guns, and they idea is = all ex army people hafe to carry guns, i am ex army, if they give me a gun, i will shoot them [the bnp;s], not the coloureds.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 19 Jun 09 - 11:19 AM

It was the perfect example of what can be expected from the BNP and their thugs. I won't be running away though, they can expect a fight from me, in a VERY big way. So much for 'talking' to these animals, and 'staying within the law'.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 19 Jun 09 - 07:29 AM

mmmm.. i wonder. like when they target someone it isn't scary enough, without having drive by s.

take care all

jade x x

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 19 Jun 09 - 04:28 AM

It looks like there has been a practical demonstration of what the BNP mean by voluntary repatriation this week in the Lisburn Road area of Belfast.

If they came to power at which point would the thugs be brought in to persuade people that repatriation would be preferable.

Also if BNP policy of requiring those completeing military national service to keep a semi-automatic firearm? What will be the main purpose of that?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 18 Jun 09 - 06:09 PM

Whew!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: CarolC
Date: 18 Jun 09 - 05:42 PM

Heads up, guys. We're not allowed to call people racists in the Mudcat. I've just been told by the guy in charge.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 05:53 PM

I just had a look at the Redwatch site - I'm not in the zone.... yet.
As well as photographs, the pages request personal information about the people they have photographed.. a possible breach of the data protection act?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: MBSLynne
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 05:22 PM

A little late in posting to this Mike. I don't come on Mudcat much any more but I had to look at the other thread where she "outed" herself after the comments on the Middle Bar group and I now have to come on this one to say I also agree with you and find I can't continue to be a friend of this person...sadly.

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: plnelson
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 04:29 PM

The success of the BNP in the recent election (not to mention UKIP) should be a wakeup call to the major parties.   

The impression I had was that BNP and UKIP drew much of their strength from the frustration that many people feel over the economy and many aspects of EU membership.      British voters were promised a referendum awhile back on the EU.   

As a USAian I don't have an opinion about the future of UK EU membership or immigration policy, but I get the distinct impression that ever since Tony Blair decided to support the US in Iraq (see my blog entry a few years back:
http://blog.pnart.com/?p=13 ) there has been a growing body of UK voters who don't feel that mainstream politicians listen or respond to them.   And that the politicians will do whatever they bloody well want to do. This leads to extremism and social unrest.   The way to undermine the BNP is for the Tories and New Labour to be more responsive to the voters (and get their ethical house in order while they're about it)

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 04:19 PM

Well, I thought it was worth a try, anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 03:21 PM

Jeri I think you're comments apply to both "the facebook wanker" *LOL* and Riginslinger the Entertainer

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 03:08 PM

I should note that I hadn't read the post immediately preceding mine by Riginslinger (with whom I don't agree) before I posted. I was referring to the Facebook wanker, no matter who that might be. I have suspicions, but I don't believe he ever used his actual name that I know of. It's just a   person who knows how to get up people's noses.

Judging by the attention trolls get by some Mudcatters, people enjoy trolls up their noses. There's a song in that.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 02:45 PM

Ok Riginslinger The Troll here's my final shot, I,ve wasted far too much time on you, so......

" Wrong you are, Rifleman. I don't hate anybody."
Right out and up front, Riginslinger, you're a liar.

Jeri is right, you're a very weak person, a troll, who is looking to be entertained, you've kept me and my family entertained, briefly, laughing at you, as it turns out. I know how to respond to people like you. Well Riginslinger or whatever your name is, time's up. In closing I'll say this, I am as you probably know, one of those people you want to control, a non-white immigrant, but this timewe are not going to allow your type to tell us what to do and when to do it, this time we fight back, see you in the arena.