BS: BNP: What would you do?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 May 09 - 10:39 PM

The point, I think, was: The BNP is a fine bunch of chaps. They were like the American Irish in the 1970's.

             I don't know where one goes with that. Angela's Ashes hadn't been published yet, and one would have to assume that at least some of the American Irish must have been bankrolling the IRA. If that was the case, it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense that the BNP would support it (them).
             One could make the case, I suppose, that it is representative of a gallant struggle, but the American Irish were only fighting the war by proxy.
             Maybe the American Irish were trying to save Ireland for the Irish, but, of course, they weren't there, so I don't get it either.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 28 May 09 - 08:51 PM

are you alright meself? are you abit worse for wear or was that a joke that i didn't get?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: meself
Date: 28 May 09 - 08:38 PM

"It is like the American Irish during the 1970's."

What is?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 May 09 - 07:28 PM

He's just getting some rest. He'll be back at it in a few hours.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 28 May 09 - 07:10 PM

to everyone that is reading inbetween their own posts,
does it seem to you our friend might have run out of steam or am i having de ja vue? sorry don'tknow what puncutation to use.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 28 May 09 - 06:58 PM

Oh by the way folks,

In case you haven't twigged,

DMR isn't reading any of the posts in between his/her own posts.

If you post it is worth bearing that in mind.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 28 May 09 - 06:56 PM

I get the feeling that DMR represents the stepford branch of the BNP.


Remember the stepford wives?


"When was the last time you sat down with a member of the BNP and listened to the truth ?"


Creepy!!!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 28 May 09 - 06:19 PM

Please keep the debate civil.


I understand the point of the original post was about a friendship. I clearly stated my views on this subject. I think there's a certain level of paranoia breeding through it now. I think debate on this site is good for people and helps in most instances, but please remain civil and there is no need to tell lies or use of swear words.

The downside to a forum like this is that people immerse themselves in their own little world of frustration, disappointment and bad experiences. .

The majority of those posting are people who lack experience of the real world. When was the last time you sat down with a member of the BNP and listened to the truth ?

If you were diagnosed with a infestation of Labour lies,now is the time for change. you may look for some quick information on the net as to who is standing in your area, please allow your mind to open up and read the BNP website.

On a forum like this you have a concentration of people from the states who never met a BNP member so we have a duty to inform them of the true facts about the party, not lies. They are a fine bunch of chaps really. It is like the American Irish during the 1970's.

I know many people who live in NYC and hadn't heard of the BNP until I enlighted them. They now visit and post on the site.

Allow us all our viewpoint.How many times do people have a good experience and say "I better go post on my good experience". People look for forums to rant when they're confused, frustrated and need an ear. This site provides a great service and place to get good information, but please don't turn it into a breeding ground for a world that's seemingly overrun by PC.

Right off to bed now.

Good night and Best of British to you all.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 28 May 09 - 05:53 PM

I know many people who live in NYC and hadn't heard of the BNP until I enlighted them. They now visit and post on the site.
The BNP site I highlighted earlier?
Nice to know that the cuddly KKK and John Birch types are showing some brotherly love to their fellow racists in the UK.
And, DMR, you've been asked a few times about your views on race and repatriation. Care to share your views? Do you stand shoulder to shoulder with your white brothers on the BNP forum?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 28 May 09 - 05:51 PM

DMR

sadly, without source citations, you are all bark and no bite.

Anyone with a shred of intelligence reading this thread can check up on the sources of the posters who have commented.

You have none.

And you refuse to supply any.

So regardless of how I feel or you feel or who you think is winning the argument, or who you think you're winding up, the evidence is spread out in front of the casual observer that you are full of hot air and don't even have the imagination to fabricate an answer when held to account.

Well I don't generally approve of repeating oneself, but its time to post this again.

Once the presenter has finished her bit the following link gets really interesting.

Goebbels might have been proud ... but would more likely have been embarrassed - he wouldn't have left this video lying around you see.

A VIDEO OF NICK GRIFFIN TEACHING AMERICAN WHITE SUPREMACISTS HOW TO LIE ABOUT BEING RACIST

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 28 May 09 - 05:37 PM

what is a wear word?

is it when you use a word too often and it gets worn out?
reasonable ,
truthful,
honorable,
or,
facist,
bigoted,
violent,
inbred,
homophobic,
and last but not least LIARS!!

PEAS OUT

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 May 09 - 05:20 PM

Rifleman - I'm not a BNP member; I'm registered Green. but if you had any sense of reality you'd find something constructive to do, such as carry Nikita Khrushchev around, like the the real Rifleman.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 28 May 09 - 05:01 PM

I understand the point of the original post was about a friendship. I clearly stated my views on this subject. I think there's a certain level of paranoia breeding through it now. I think debate on this site is good for people and helps in most instances, but please remain civil and there is no need to tell lies or use of wear words.

The downside to a forum like this is that people immerse themselves in their own little world of frustration, disappointment and bad experiences. .

The majority of those posting are people who lack experience of the real world. When was the last time you sat down with a member of the BNP and listened to the truth ?

If you were diagnosed with a infestation of Labour lies,now is the time for change. you may look for some quick information on the net as to who is standing in your area, please allow your mind to open up and read the BNP website.

On a forum like this you have a concentration of people from the states who never met a BNP member so we have a duty to inform them of the true facts about the party, not lies. They are a fine bunch of chaps really. It is like the American Irish during the 1970's.

I know many people who live in NYC and hadn't heard of the BNP until I enlighted them. They now visit and post on the site.

Allow us all our viewpoint.How many times do people have a good experience and say "I better go post on my good experience". People look for forums to rant when they're confused, frustrated and need an ear. This site provides a great service and place to get good information, but please don't turn it into a breeding ground for a world that's seemingly overrun by PC.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 28 May 09 - 04:31 PM

Me in trouble...?Ohh I think not....

But enough of this humourous bantering, Riginslinger, as I said you have neither the brains nor any sense of irony, much like your compatriots in the BNP, get used to it, sunshine, you've been sussed!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 May 09 - 04:21 PM

I see, that would indicate you're really in trouble!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 28 May 09 - 04:15 PM

Don't bother Riginslinger, you have neither the brains nor a fine appreciation of irony.

and I await the knock at the door by these thugs with glee, my family and I actually fight back.... *LOL*

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 28 May 09 - 04:01 PM

Answers my question and saves DMR from lying through his/her teeth

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 28 May 09 - 04:00 PM

And, DMR, what's you're take on this, from a BNP board moderator?:
Somebody should start major-league deporting them before some vigilante groups, somewhere, start major-league killing them in the streets.
And, if I see one being honour-killed, somewhere, I'll develop deafness, blindness and complete social unawareness - it's amazing how suddenly we can be afflicted with such things, given how stressful modern life can be!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 May 09 - 04:00 PM

"...it's all a big conspiracy by a secret World Wide Jewish Business Cabal to descredit a "respectable" political party."


                      So that's it!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 28 May 09 - 03:51 PM

Some nice quotes on the BNP's forum for its own activists.
On the subject of 'ethnics', we get:
They are outbreeding us. Yes! Time is short, but I still think we can win
and Depends what people want. If it is a 'white' Britain then only a Civil War can bring this about. Anything else will lead to the genocide of the original British people sooner or later., plus if we have political control of our country, we can then make all the decisions that we need to make. Including a policy of repatriation.
It all seems pretty clear to me.
And, in case anyone has any doubts: The only way we can win our country back is by armed struggle. In the mean time we should all back the bnp. We should all try to get the bnp elected by democratic means! We should do ,what ever it takes to gain power!We should back Nik Griffin!! We should only use violence has a last resort when we have nothing left to lose.
The spelling and syntax is all their own, by the way.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 28 May 09 - 03:38 PM

We all know that site you linked to has been discredited. Not worth reading. Another failed attempt to blacken the good name of the BNP.

Tell the lie often enough and it becomes the truth eh, DMR, a note taken right from the Nazis, discredit your enemy by making them look like the villan of the piece.

DMR some of us actually paid attention in history class, and learned something.

We know the history of the BNP, we know its roots, we know where you come from.
I'm waiting for Daily Bird Cage Liner Reader to tell us it's all a big conspiracy by a secret World Wide Jewish Business Cabal to descredit a "respectable" political party.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 28 May 09 - 03:24 PM

Right, simple yes or no question time.

Daily Mail Reader do you deny that one of the BNP's policies is to 're-patriots immigrants (particularly non-whites) back to their country of origin

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 28 May 09 - 03:00 PM

It calls on members "to spread the truth of who we are", and to use proper spelling and grammar

Oh dear. It would seem that some members aren't listening!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Darowyn
Date: 28 May 09 - 02:54 PM

A story in the Worcester News today.
The BNP candidate has appealed to voters not to vote for her. She was persuaded to stand in the council elections by a BNP neighbour. She wrote her campaign speech stressing her Christian values, but after it was re-written by BNP officials, the candidate- who did not know who the leader of the BNP was- decided to withdraw for fear of being seen as a racist which she is not.
The BNP are not only despicable but also deceitful. They have exploited the political naivety of this lady, as they are no doubt hoping to exploit the naivety of many who do not realise what they actually stand for.
I understand that they have more than one financial scandal of their own to come to light!
Cheers
Dave

Link to the story

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Emma B
Date: 28 May 09 - 02:11 PM

I have not described the BNP here as either "knuckle-dragging scum" or "ignoramuses and bigots" as unfortunately I agree with last months article in The New Statesman that
'Such simplistic stereotypes provide a comforting image of the BNP as a lunatic fringe that may score a few upsets in council by-elections'

Public anxiety about immigration may have helped fuel the BNP's rise, but the party now claims to be about more than racism and xenophobia

From the article quoted above -

"In our study (to be published later this year by Routledge in The New Extremism in 21st-Century Britain), we examined a large sample of those who have voted BNP or would consider doing so.
We found that the BNP is gaining new support principally from older, less educated, white working-class men – voters from Labour's historical base who feel they have benefited little from the past decade of Labour government, and whose resentments the BNP has succeeded in articulating......

Many of these voters are cynical about the main political parties. They gained little from the Blair boom and will be the first to suffer in the Brown bust. Their growing cynicism, distrust and detachment from politics have not been taken seriously by Labour, perhaps because the party's strategists believed they have nowhere else to go. But many are now beginning to listen to what the far right has to say,

Most still find it difficult to vote BNP, turned off by the party's association with extremism, or simply because there is no local BNP candidate to vote for.

But even one seat in the European Parliament would provide resources and publicity that could act as a potent catalyst for a party accustomed to operating on a shoestring outside of the media spotlight."


Don't underestimate the cynical exploitation by these racists of the current recession and unemployment and their ability to capitalize on public anger at the disclosure of 'immoral', although not illegal expenses claims of MPs

When the north-west region votes in next month's European elections, the BNP doesn't need to win: under a system using proportional representation, its candidate and chairman Nick Griffin needs just 8% of the vote - fractionally more than its 6.5% last time - to secure a historic first European parliament seat for the British far right.

On a low turnout (usual with European elections), that means about 80,000 votes across a vast area from rural Cumbria to the Mersey, from Manchester to the Lancashire mill towns. If they string together enough pockets of anger and fear, the BNP can make a giant leap.

'The BNP'S biggest breakthrough... has come from using new media - blogging, YouTube, Twittering and social networking sites such as Facebook - to get around "no platform" policies observed by the traditional media and civil society, designed to deny it the oxygen of publicity. It calls on members "to spread the truth of who we are", and to use proper spelling and grammar.'


Hope not Hate

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 28 May 09 - 01:48 PM

We all know that site you linked to has been discredited

I assume 'we' means the BNP, and no it hasn't. Risking Joe's wrath, you're a barefaced liar.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 28 May 09 - 01:40 PM

A belated happy birthday Emma. We all know that site you linked to has been discredited. Not worth reading. Another failed attempt to blacken the good name of the BNP.

Allow the ballot box to tell it's tale next week.

Hope you had a wonderful day and enjoy many many more birthdays filled with health and happiness.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Emma B
Date: 28 May 09 - 01:26 PM

"if you tell a lie big enough"

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 28 May 09 - 01:19 PM

There is much to much Goebbelsesque being said here against the BNP.

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

The British National Party is being subjected to the most outrageous smears & downright lies here because it stands for the complete democratisation of the State, against the opposition of the corrupt & venal Old Party political establishment that has gained personal, pecuniary advantage from the British people.

The British National Party is the most democratic party in the European & County Council elections.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 28 May 09 - 12:48 PM

Lox. You got it, except that I think their thinking goes way beyond their just taking power in this country. That is definitely part of the apocolyptic scenery, but if there's raw material shortages a BNP dictatorship is going to have to find some from somewhere. Also, if chaos paves the way for a BNP totalitarian dictatorship here, then the same kinds of conditions would apply over the rest of Europe. Therefore, other European fascist parties would be able to impose their own dictatorships elsewhere. And there's strength in numbers.

Therefore, it seems to me that what they envisage is a kind of union of European fascist states, plus any other white countries who want to join them, which will then enslave and rape the third world for whatever is left of the world's raw materials. A sort of fortress Europe in fact.

If so, two problems emerge.

1. What happens to any European nations which do not succumb to the surge to the right?

2. How are they going to accommodate the other power blocs, IE., Russia, China and possibly the USA, who will also be hit by the same crisis, and very likely looking to apply the same solutions?

In other words it's the perfect recipe for world wide war.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 28 May 09 - 12:26 PM

Face it, the BNP would cock up a piss up in a brewery *LOL*

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 28 May 09 - 12:07 PM

So if I understand it right, then an apocalypse could actually be a good thing as it would give those who were prepared a chance to take thee opprtunity to seize power ...

... nice thought ... only the BNP would cock it up.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 28 May 09 - 12:02 PM

Early on in this thread, or it may have been the one on the English Fair Front, I expressed a belief that the BNP is a bunch of Nazi survivalists. IE., they think that the human race is about to keel over under the strain of global warming, material shortages and over-population. From the Darwinian struggle which ensues, the 'master race' will emerge victorious and ready to enslave the 'inferior' races once more.

I've just found a piece of twaddle on the BNP website of which the last few paragraphs are below. The entire vomit can be seen at http://bnp.org.uk/category/peak-oil/apocalypse/ . Note in partiular the piece of BNPspeak in the final paragraph.

"A mass attempt by the populace to storm a food distribution depot close to the M62 might be dealt with by a few hundred armed infantrymen, but if the scene is multiplied across two hundred depots in twenty counties and a further hundred High Streets and a score of coastal ports as desperate, genuinely desperate fathers, older brothers and husbands try and grab whatever food, medicines, drugs, alcohol for their crying, malnourished offspring siblings and family members. What if the working class storming the food distribution depots are the brothers, sisters, cousins of the twenty-something infantrymen armed with SA80s? Will the well trained British squaddie really fire on his neighbours, friends and family?

"The cities will be dangerous places, conventional policing will be unable to contain the armed gangs who will control "their" areas. The wealthy can try and hide behind armoured gates and security systems, can establish their own armed gangs or buy protection from an armed gang. What of the rest of society? Even in today's oil booming consumerist society there are no go areas for unarmed police officers, housing schemes who are in thrall to the local "Mr. Big" often a pimp, a drug dealer and fence. If the police are not there to help, just who is going to look after the law abiding residents? Do we take the law into our own hands or do we all become easy prey to the armed gangs of pimps, drug barons and organised crime rings?

"The nights will of course be darker, the local councils will not be able to afford the cost of electricity to power street lamps. The nights will be quieter too, as millions of exhausts are silenced, lying rusting in driveways and gardens across the country. Fewer people will frequent the city centres, those that do risk assault, attack and even murder. Living in a city is a real health hazard in a world without oil.

"Conclusion

"A darker, hunger filled, more dangerous existence. That is one possible view of life after oil, but does it really have to be this bad? Could there be some upside, some silver lining on this particularly gloomy looking cloud?

"It might be apocalyptic but it might just be a time of opportunity for those that are aware, those that are prepared and those that can adapt. Don't have nightmares and see for yourself just what opportunities might open up."

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 28 May 09 - 12:01 PM

Wow - there's a lot of British people an this thread.

And look at what they found when they opened their eyes.



DMR, that last post of yours really got to the nub of the discussion ... whew ... you really know how to debate!!!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 28 May 09 - 11:23 AM

"Michael is also a great guy, he called Nick "The new Churchill". Come the hour, come the man."

If the Churchill family think Griffin is a sleaze bag (except, of course, the Churchill family wouldn't us such a term *LOL*)....well what more need be said?

As for this bogus claim that the BNP first exposed the thieves and abusers in Westminster...laughable at best, considering they have their own fair share of same.

Oh and Daily Mail Reader, I'm one of those that your beloved BNP wants to 're-patriot'to their country of origin, I am an immigrant and I am not white, just to clarify the situation.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: goatfell
Date: 28 May 09 - 11:00 AM

ye it did and anyone that say the Holocaust didn't happen then they are rascist and idiots as well

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: TheSnail
Date: 28 May 09 - 10:47 AM

A bit more free publicity for the BNP.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Stu
Date: 28 May 09 - 10:34 AM

Pathetic.

Just like all the other crooks, liars, blaggards and popinjays we're currently cleaning the system of. They can't answer a straight question either.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 28 May 09 - 09:42 AM

The people of Britain are at last opening their eyes

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Stu
Date: 28 May 09 - 09:42 AM

Would that be the same Michael Barnbrook that volunteered as a UKIP candidate against Derek Conway in Sidcup in 2005? He couldn't muster more than a handful of votes there and so defected to the BNP instead.

"They just believe that Britons are being discriminated against and treated as 2nd class citizens in our own Country and it is about time those in positions of power stopped this discrimination against us as a People."

Britons? Country? Us? Define each of those DMR. And while you're at it, did the Holocaust happen, yes or no?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 28 May 09 - 08:37 AM

"Michael's public service will not be acknowledged by those in power because they SO want to depict the BNP as wicked, but we will remember it was him that started the cleaning out of the thieves and abusers in Westminster. We all thank him for this."


Evidence please ....


haven't got any?


Thats because it is fiction.


"It is they who are the fascists and thugs which is clear in their violent efforts to keep our support down by any means they can, including physical assaults, damage to BNP members property and vehicles. All these things have been used against the BNP in the last few months and more. When have this party people ever done this sort of thing to the other parties to prevent them winning support in an upcoming election?"


Where is your evidence of unprovoked violence against the BNP?


No where. Because it doesn't exist.


On the other hand, there is so much evidence of unprovoked BNP violence against ... well wwhoever pisses them off really ... on the net that I will leave it to any readers of this forum to find for themselves.

It would be like looking for a haystack in a hayfield at hay harvesting time.



"The BNP don't hate other races either. They just believe that Britons are being discriminated against and treated as 2nd class citizens in our own Country and it is about time those in positions of power stopped this discrimination against us as a People."


They can "believe" what they want. Once again, there is no evidence to support this claim. The evidence is that when immigration has been at its highest in this country, unemployment has been at its lowest. So if we were to allow ourselves the illusion that the two things are connected, then we would have to conclude that immigration has been good for this country.

Oh yes, and they want other races to leave - its on their website - but in a nice way of course.


Then again there is the fact that, as peace pointed out, the BNP is friendly with david dukes and his mob and other right wing hate groups.

In fact, I have posted a video several times of Nick Griffin advising them how to lie about your racist intentions to get votes.


Bit like you DMR - Either unbelievably imperceptive or else a Liar and a racist.


"If you are going to the polls next week,emember to write your vote in BLACK BIRO"


You've got the wrong website - this isn't a BNP forum where people are still getting to grips with opposable thumb theory, this is a forum where people have been able to write clearly, legibly, and in good english for most of their lives.

Unlike your usual audience, they won't have any difficulty putting an x in the right box.

And you can guarantee that the box they choose won't be the one with BNP next to it.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 28 May 09 - 08:21 AM

Emma B. "'The British National Party is facing an inquiry".

Nice timing, considering this bunch of incorruptables (well you can't corrupt what's already corrupt) will be expecting to make hay out of the Westminster expenses scandal.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 28 May 09 - 08:19 AM

"The lies and abuse just showed people the sort of thing we have to put up with constantly from the fascist Left, they attempted to close down their wonderful website which allows us to read the truth about Britain today."

Are you talking about Redwatch, the website which posts photographs, names and adresses of anti-fascist activists so that BNP members and their ilk can go and beat themn up?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Emma B
Date: 28 May 09 - 08:15 AM

and....

talking about 'sleazebusting'.....

'The British National Party is facing an inquiry into its funding after its leader, Nick Griffin, paid a £5,000 political donation into his personal bank account without declaring it.

The party's finances came under scrutiny yesterday after it declared donations with the Electoral Commission of £21,132 for the first quarter of this year. No donations were declared between March and December last year. It has pledged to spend £500,000 campaigning for next week's European and local elections alone.

Under Electoral Commission rules, donations in excess of £5,000 to political parties and in excess of £1,000 given to party members to be used for political activity must be declared. ...

Mr Griffin admitted that he had paid a £5,000 donation that appeared to be from a political supporter into his own bank account and then transferred the money to a sympathetic political organisation without alerting the authorities.

Details of the transaction emerged as David Cameron, the Tory leader, mounted the most savage attack to date on the BNP by a major political leader. "They dress up in a suit and knock on your door in a nice way but they are still Nazi thugs," he said.'

from today's Times on line

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 28 May 09 - 08:09 AM

Michael's public service will not be acknowledged by those in power because they SO want to depict the BNP as wicked, but we will remember it was him that started the cleaning out of the thieves and abusers in Westminster. We all thank him for this.

These crooks fought so hard to keep their thieving and corruption hidden from us, the people they were stealing from, no wonder they don't want the BNP uncovering even greater thefts and corruption in the EU. I really believe that the only way any of their deceit and thievery will see the light of day is if we get some BNP members in. The other Parties will not want to do anything to stop the plundering of the taxpayers' money. They are enjoying it too much.

These crooks keep spouting the same poisonous old rubbish about the BNP being fascists and thugs. It is they who are the fascists and thugs which is clear in their violent efforts to keep our support down by any means they can, including physical assaults, damage to BNP members property and vehicles. All these things have been used against the BNP in the last few months and more. When have this party people ever done this sort of thing to the other parties to prevent them winning support in an upcoming election?

I also wonder how true their non-racist credentials are when they can write such nasty racist words on the forged document they gave to the newspapers about the BNP.

The lies and abuse just showed people the sort of thing we have to put up with constantly from the fascist Left, they attempted to close down their wonderful website which allows us to read the truth about Britain today.

These denial of service attacks were despicable and totally undemocratic, especially in the run-up to an election. They were worried that people would see their policies on the website and see that they are NOT the racist thugs the Leftwing thugs say they are.

I have never been racist in my life, I couldn't be a thug if I wanted to. The BNP don't hate other races either. They just believe that Britons are being discriminated against and treated as 2nd class citizens in our own Country and it is about time those in positions of power stopped this discrimination against us as a People. They are determined to ignore democracy and try to stop the overwhelming support which is now coming into the BNP offices.

We need to show these thugs that we will vote for the party we want to vote for.

If you are going to the polls next week,emember to write your vote in BLACK BIRO to minimise the risk of vote rigging. I am afraid we just cannot trust these people.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Emma B
Date: 28 May 09 - 08:04 AM

I think our Daily Mail reader must have missed this from today's Mail on line....

'Mr Griffin is also embroiled in a row with relatives of Sir Winston Churchill who are furious at his attempt to cloak himself in the mantle of the great wartime leader.

In the BNP election broadcast, he quotes from one of Churchill's most famous speeches. The advert also features footage of Sir Winston and British war graves.'

further reports from recent press reports

'Churchill's family say that the BNP is trying to hijack his legacy. His grandson, ­Nicholas Soames, said it was "offensive and ­disgusting," and he had consulted lawyers in an attempt to force the Electoral Commission to stop the broadcast.

It's a monstrous thing to do," said Soames, Tory MP for Mid-Sussex. "Most sensible people will be disgusted by the BNP's use of Churchill's face and imagery purporting to claim that my grandfather would have supported their policies."

Griffin was also accused of hypocrisy over his use of second world war footage, after it emerged that an article which appeared in a rightwing magazine he edited in the 1990s appeared to praise the wartime exploits of Hitler's SS.'

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 May 09 - 08:02 AM

Bearing in mind that several million of our forebears gave their lives between 1939 and 1945 to keep Nazi scum out of the UK, what on earth posesses the same kind of scum who now pose as Die Britische Nationale Partei to think that we'll vote them in via the back door?

Fuckin' delusional, the lot of 'em.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 28 May 09 - 07:40 AM

Bollox.

The Daily telegraph received leaked documents from a source that they refuse to disclose.



"Griffin for example, is a lop-eyed, hunchbacked, dribbling, shuffling poltroon of a specimen with a risible taste in suits whose hatred probably comes from his own vicious self-loathing."

\o/ haha

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader
Date: 28 May 09 - 07:11 AM

Another FACT that some of you may be unaware of. It was the British National Party's very own sleazebuster, Michael Barnbrook, who initiated the entire review of MPs' expenses.

Mr Barnbrook, a former Metropolitan police inspector, who is also the BNP's spokesman on police matters, was the one who first raised the matter with a written complaint to Mr John Lyon, the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, against Tory MP Derek Conway. It was that complaint which resulted in the first review of MPs' expenses.

Michael is also a great guy, he called Nick "The new Churchill". Come the hour, come the man.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Stu
Date: 28 May 09 - 06:43 AM

"Hmmm - another of my posts deleted for some reason."

Doh! Wrong thread. What a plonker. Apologies to all for interrupting with my impetuous drivel.

Whilst I'm here though . . .

"Yes Nick, you are an embarassment."

What gets me is why the leaders of these right-wing fascistic movements, who trumpet the superiority of their race and culture over others are ever hardly shining examples of the supposed Aryan master race. Griffin for example, is a lop-eyed, hunchbacked, dribbling, shuffling poltroon of a specimen with a risible taste in suits whose hatred probably comes from his own vicious self-loathing.