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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: theleveller Date: 12 Jun 09 - 12:02 PM "Because your post came nowhere near to doing that. And what you say would have more impact if you learned the basic difference between "you're" and "your" " No? Ah well, that's a matter of opinion. As to the typing error, well, after spending the last 9 hours in front of a PC writing a 5000 word guide to people with hearing problems, I'm suffering from a bit of eye strain. (Why is the type on Mudcat so small?) I feel the need of liquid refreshment. Bye for now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Ringer Date: 12 Jun 09 - 12:12 PM Bye to you, too. Enjoy your pint, as I hope to enjoy mine (but mine will be after ringing practice - it's called the thirst after righteousness). |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Stu Date: 12 Jun 09 - 12:42 PM Good idea - time for a pint! Have a good one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: The Barden of England Date: 12 Jun 09 - 01:38 PM Why do we not excoriate Stalin's and Mao's latter-day followers (communists, socialists) and label them with their fathers' genocides as we do with Hitler's? Because we're unthinkingly fashion-led, that's why. What an Idiot!!!! Stalin was no more communist than Hitler. Both were dictators you fool. And as for Mao being socialist - well thanks for that one, I've not had such a good laugh in ages. Dictators the lot. John Barden |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: GUEST,English Jon Date: 12 Jun 09 - 05:39 PM Nothing much to add, except my name to the very long list of people who are opposed to the BNP/NF/C18 crowd. A sad day. Cheers, Jon Loomes |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: greg stephens Date: 12 Jun 09 - 05:40 PM An interesting feature od this thread is that quite a few posters actually seem to be acquainted with the fascist singer at Sidmouth sessions. So, what songs does she perform/like? I am intrigued. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:02 PM Apologies that I haven't read past halfway in this thread. I did get far enough however to see that Little Hawk is way, way out of his depth. He says, for instance, "Evidently they equate to modern day "Nazis" in people's minds," and yet in the same breath admits that he has no basis for that opinion. The BNP are NOT Nazis merely in people's minds. Many of their leading members have convictions for crimes involving violence and incitement to hatred. A significant proportion of Nazis went through WW2 without ever comprehending how the Third Reich went about resolving the Jewish problem in Poland etc. No such excuse is available to the BNP. Those in its leadership who admire Hitler do so specifically specifically because of his anti-semitism, his loathing of gays and the disabled, etc. If Little Hawk is loyal to the principles he has expressed in this thread then in a bygone age he would have been happy to debate the rights and wrongs of lynchings with KKK members. And if any of his friends are violent paedophiles he would presumably look for common ground rather than jeopardise the friendship. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: greensue Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:03 PM The same songs as anyone else |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Richard Bridge Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:19 PM That's interesting, Sue. Most folksong singers I know seek to develop an individual repertoire. As to admiring a skill without regard to background, any admiration I might have had for Geroge Carman as a barrister in court (which was guarded in any event because of his habit of bullying witnesses)vanished when I found out how he behaved in private. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: jeddy Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:44 PM ok, another thick moment ....who is george carmen? has he been talked about and i have missed the posting? I'M CONFUSED. please explain. j x x |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Lox Date: 12 Jun 09 - 07:19 PM Ringer, You seem to be suggesting that by having a problem with the BNP we are hypocrites. On what basis? Well, our reason for disliking Nazis is that we are horrified by the thought of Nazism returning to Europe. Ah right ... so how are we hypocrites? Well ... if you compare hitler to Mao and Stalin, you find that they were respponsible for huge numbers of deaths too. er .. ok ... still don't get it ... *sigh* Well if you disagree with the BNP then you are obviously left wing ... ... really? ... oh ... ok ... and therefore you support Mao and Stalin ... ... do I ... gosh ... news to me ... which makes you a hypocrite as the only reason you are slating Hitler and not them is because it is trendy ... My dear Ringer. Let me make this clear. There wasn't a Neo-Stalinist party participating in the Euro elections. There wasn't a Maoist party in the EU elections. There are no Stalinist or Maoist MEP's from the UK. phew ... don't have to worry about that then. HANG ON!!! you know wht? ... duh ... what ... there was a Neo Nazi party represented at the EU elections. ... duh ... oh ... was there ... Yes - they claim that they are becoming trendier these days (not actually true, just that everyone would rather stay hone this year) They are called the BNP and they are about as trendy as a pair of sackcloth Y-Fronts. ... uh huh ... Yeah - so (concentrate) as though we don't have a Stalinist or a Maoist party to worry about, we do have a Neo-Nazi party to worry about. That is why we are talking about Nazi's and not Mao or Stalin. see? ... uh ... no ... i fink ... uh ... what? Never mind. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Nick Date: 12 Jun 09 - 09:23 PM From: Peter K (Fionn) - PM Little Hawk is no part of the problem here. The BNP are. Don't get sidetracked. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Richard Bridge Date: 12 Jun 09 - 10:10 PM Carman was until his fairly recent death possibly the best known English barrister. His cross-examination was much feared. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: jeddy Date: 12 Jun 09 - 10:40 PM richard, thankyou, i assume he was into race purity then or something similar? i still don't understand the link between him and the bnp. is this something i should know or does it matterv if i don't ? anyway, i think it is entirely possible to be sucked in by the BNP as happened to that woman who after knowing what she had gotten herself into said "DON'T VOTE FOR ME"if this was the case with GEORGE then why not just admit it? so i am assuming tht because she hassn't she is still in there with the party line. how can she sing any sort of protest song with any integraty(?) it just wouldn't work would it? anyway i am off to read then sleep. i am sorryb if this has made no sense i will come back tommorrow to check. night night take care jade x |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Richard Bridge Date: 13 Jun 09 - 01:30 AM No jeddy. My point is this. Thinking folkies above have said that they respected MBSGeorge's singing before they knew of her loathsome politics, and that her politics cannot affect the impression they had had of her singing. I have given a real life example of a well-known man (a vile bully and wife-beater but not as far as I know a racist) who was widely respected for his skills (while alive) as a barrister. Since the facts have, since his death, emerged, I have ceased to hold the same respect for the very skills for which he was respected. That is the extent of the analogy.
-Joe Offer- |