BS: Are you American & want Public Option?

Subject: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Alice
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 03:58 PM

Republican minority leader John Boehner told reporters, "I'm still trying to find the first American to talk to who's in favor of the public option, other than a member of Congress or a member of the administration. I've not talked one and I get to a lot of places. I've not had anyone come up to me -- I know I'm inviting them -- and lobby for the public option. This is about as unpopular as a garlic milkshake."

So, if you are an American and support the Public Option in health care reform, you can let Boehner know by signing this petition:

http://healthcareforamericanow.org/page/s/boehner

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Alice
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:01 PM

Here is a page about the group behind the petition, Health Care For America Now.
about us

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:04 PM

Signed it. Forwarded it. Thanks Alice.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:06 PM

Signed it.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: pdq
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:12 PM

Just for fun, check out this site for the...


                                                      Gilroy Garlic Festival


I'm sure they serve garlic ice cream as well as garlic milkshakes.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: gnu
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:18 PM

CC... was it you that posted a video link about this a short while back?

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Alice
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:20 PM

I found that petition from a health care reform Facebook group link.

Whether you are an American or not, there is a place to post your opinion about "public option" on the group's discussion page.
So far, I see just a few posts by people who lived or traveled in other countries and were able to experience other medical care systems.
Here is where you can post Facebook discussion click here

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: mmm1a
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:22 PM

Signed it

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:31 PM

If Bohner is enough of a imbecile - or an ideologue, or both- to make an idiotic statement of that sort, why does anyone think that a petition to the jackass will make any difference whatsoever?

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:36 PM

Politicians generate their own 'public opinion' from what they perceive as the opinion of their constituents. Petitions from outside their constituency won't change their mindset; only if a majority of their constituents want change will they change horses.
Among many in the south and west, unfortunately 'the public option' is regarded as socialist perversion.

Petition your own Congressmen, don't waste time and paper on those outside of your state.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Alice
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:46 PM

Boehner specifically said "Americans", so this it is completely appropriate for any American in or out of his state to respond to him.

Signing makes a point of responding to what he said and what he questioned.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Don Firth
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:58 PM

Signed it. Thanks for the heads-up on this, Alice.

John Boehber must live in some hermetically sealed universe for either the Right-wing or the incredibly stupid. Or do I repeat myself?

If he really wants to know, not just shoot his mouth off, I could introduce him to quite a few people who will really chew his ear about what an overwhelming number of Americans really want.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 04:59 PM

Boehner-head probably believes if you want a public option you are not "American," so he can't lose.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Alice
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 05:00 PM

If you want to call his office and leave a voice mail message, the phone number is:
[phone]

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Genie
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 05:37 PM

Boehner speaks with forked tongue. Even at the time he made that claim, he had already received numerous phone calls an emails from his constituents asking him to support a strong public option for health insurance.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 06:08 PM

I may have posted something about it in video form, but I'm not sure, and I didn't post the online petition. So thanks to the original poster for this!

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 06:09 PM

And thanks for the phone number!

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 06:12 PM

The voice mail must be full. It's not answering. I'll try again tomorrow.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 06:27 PM

Boehner-head probably believes ...

It seems pretty naive to imagine that, just because a politician says something as stupid as that, he actually believes it.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: pdq
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 06:32 PM

Perhaps Mr. Boehner should simply read the polls:

                                                                      Rasmussen Poll

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 10:53 PM

Yes, he should read the polls. For instance this poll that actually asks whether or not people support the public option (the Rasmussen poll does not appear to have asked that question). 65% do support a public option.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/poll-public-option-favore_n_299669.html


Or he could read the poll that asks doctors whether or not they support the public option. 73% of doctors support a public option, either along side private options, or public option only (10% of doctors support a public option but no private options).

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112818960

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 10:54 PM

Polls: The polls showed that Obama would lose the election.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 10:58 PM

Sent it. And I usually never do online polls.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 11:36 PM

If there is no public option then - what is the point? Cheers,..mwh

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Oct 09 - 12:03 AM

Exactly, Michael! Without it, it's just the insurance companies playing musical chairs. Bloody pointless.

Unless "mandatory insurance" gets passed. And then it's a big sop to the insurance companies and a ridiculous burden on those who don't have insurance because they can't afford it.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: maire-aine
Date: 05 Oct 09 - 12:42 AM

Signed it. Thanks for posting this, Alice.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Genie
Date: 05 Oct 09 - 02:07 PM

Pretty sure most of the people who support the idea of a "public option" do NOT mean they think the not-for-profit government-administered health insurance plan should be available ONLY to a small minority of people, most of whom are poor, unemployed and/or otherwise uninsurable because of "pre-existing conditions."

Trouble is, most of the "public option" plans being proposed in Congress would not be available for most of us to buy into even if we want to. Any insurance plan, including a public not-for-profit one, needs to have a large, diverse pool of insurees to spread the risks and make it viable. That is why a "mandate" to have health insurance is needed -- just as everyone pays into Medicare during their working years.   But a mandate to buy insurance from private, for-profit companies is a whole nuther thing.

I am opposed to health insurance coverage being mandated unless people have the option of buying into viable non-profit and or publicly-administered programs.    I also hope that Congress will NOT pass a highly restricted, weak "public" program that is set up to fail, thus giving the anti-government crowd the example to use to say, "See? Told ya. The government can't run anything well!"

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 05 Oct 09 - 06:27 PM

Well, personally, I believe that the American people should get exactly the same inurance package that our senators and congressmen get! Who in the hell are they to sit there in grand style and cherry-pick their benefits and force us to grovel for horseshit?

I want the same damned benefits that congress gets - no more and no less - period! Until then I will not vote for an incumbent at their level. Cheers,.....................mwh

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Alice
Date: 05 Oct 09 - 09:02 PM

I agree, we should be able to get the health care coverage those in Congress have.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Oct 09 - 09:09 PM

Whatever it takes to get for-profit bean counters to stop practicing medicine without a license. The mandates need to be as much on the companies as on people to have insurance. Level that playing field.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 09:49 AM

The polls showed that Obama would lose the election.

Myb impression, fromm the media and the net, was that they seemed to indicate that he was likely to win.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 10:21 AM

Signed and forwarded, thanks, Alice!

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Stringsinger
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 02:18 PM

Single Payer is the only real answer. Otherwise the insurance companies control everything.

Without a Public Option, however, Obama has weakened his chances for re-election.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Neil D
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 07:41 PM

I agree Stringsinger. The public option is a poor second choice to a single payer system and is already a compromise. It is still better than the Baucus Bill, which has been called a gift to the insurance companies by a former vice-president of Cigna. I wrote my Senator, Sherrod Brown, and said if that's the best you guys can do, then do nothing at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you American & want Public Option?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Oct 09 - 11:48 PM

"Myb impression, fromm the media and the net, was that they seemed to indicate that he was likely to win."

Some did, some didn't. That is often the way with polls.