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Obit: singer Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009

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Subject: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: gnu
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 01:55 PM

Tragic


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 02:23 PM

How horrible. Only two animals and they dared to attack an adult human.

What a terrible loss.

Her myspace page. http://www.myspace.com/taylormitchellband

I couldn't find youtube videos.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 02:34 PM

VERY sad and indeed tragic........

Coyotes are becoming a huge problem a lot of places since "we" have encroached heavily upon their turf AND they are getting very bold!

My nephew David was in a tree stand, bow hunting, a few weeks back and 4 Coyotes came up and circled the tree. No amount of yelling and waving would move them. Fortunately he had his cell phone and called a friend who also happened to have Dodge 4wd Diesel pickup as David does as well. Brad was able to drive into the edge of the woods where David was and even with the noise of the Diesel, the flashing lights, and honking, they remained. Brad had a shotgun and fired out of the cab window, not aiming at them but just hoping to scare them. They moved off about 40 feet or so then stood and watched. David was able to make a drop to the truck bed and slide into the cab, but even as he did so they came forward again.

Lots of small animals missing in nearby neighborhoods as well.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: C. Ham
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 03:07 PM

I've seen Taylor Mitchell perform in Toronto and she was very good. Her songs seemed quite mature for someone so young.

My condolences go out to her family and friends.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: gnu
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 04:55 PM

Indeed C. She was talent budding. Sad loss.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Eve Goldberg
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 05:46 PM

I met Taylor a few years ago when she came to the Ontario Council of Folk Festivals conference. She was part of the Youth Mentorship program of the conference, which pairs up young folk/roots musicians with a more experienced musician for skills building and "learning the ropes." I remember being blown away by how directed she was. I think she must have been 17, and she was writing incredible songs, not to mention having quite a head on her shoulders. I can't imagine being so sure of what I wanted to do at that age.

I've watched from afar as she made connections with some fantastic musicians, worked really hard to record and release her first album, and then recently started on her first big tour. It was so vicariously satisfying to see such incredible talent coming into bloom.

So this morning's news was a huge shock. It's a huge loss for the folk community here in Canada. There is no doubt in my mind that she was on the path to success - it's just heartbreaking to think how young she was and how much she had too look forward too.

My condolences to her family and close friends. RIP Taylor, your star is still shining.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Eve Goldberg
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 06:23 PM

Here are some of Taylor's links for people to check out:

Taylor Mitchell website

Taylor Mitchell MySpace page


Taylor Mitchell Facebook page


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 07:00 PM

I'm speechless.   Taylor, I'm sure you're still shining!!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Big Mick
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 07:07 PM

Absolutely a tragedy!! It appears we have been robbed of hearing a wonderful talent.

God be good to her.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: pdq
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 07:20 PM

I have always lived in the southwestern US where coyotes are common. They seldon get much over 20 pounds and rarely (if ever) work in pairs or packs. They are loners and run from people as quickly as they can.

I suspect that the dogs responsible for this attack were either feral dogs or coyote hybrids. Possibly mixed with wolf or feral domesticated breeds or all three.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 07:25 PM

Sorry pdq.......Suspect what you like but the ones here in Ohio are Coyotes and do work in packs although they have been known to kill their own.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Big Mick
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 07:35 PM

Agreed, Spaw. I have seen them work in packs when I am out hunting up here in Michigan. They also are bigger than the 20 lbs. that PDQ sees, but he lives in the desert southwest. But I have never seen a 60 pounder like they are talking about in the Maritimes. My guess is that they have learned not to be afraid of humans.

Damn shame, and a tough way to go. In all my visits to Toronto, I don't think I have met Taylor, but it sure seems that we lost a beauty of a singer. My heart goes out to friends and family.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: meself
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 08:03 PM

Shocking and sad. All I've heard of her is the little clip they've been playing on the CBC radio reports - her voice sounds lovely ....


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Bugsy
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 08:11 PM

That is so sad.

Condolences to her family.


Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: bobad
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 08:31 PM

A terrible tragedy - Taylor was so young and so talented with so many years ahead of her. My condolences.


Regarding the coyote question, the eastern coyote has been shown to be a hybrid of the western coyote and eastern wolf and weighs around 50 lbs. Coyotes usually hunt in pairs. I heard an animal behaviourist on the radio today saying that this kind of attack on humans is extremely rare and that it was very likely that these were young and practicing their hunting skills or were sick.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 08:47 PM

This is a terribly trajic story! My wife and I hiked the Skyline Trail last month. We saw several moose but no coyote. The coyote are not native to Cape Breton and have only appeared in the last three or four decades, but they have multiplied quickly. They have cross bred with timber wolves and large dogs before arriving from farther west and are much larger than their prarie cousins. They also live and hunt in family packs, more like wolves than coyotes. The only previous incident in Nova Scotia of an attack on humans was on the same trail.
Such a sad end to a girl with a big future! Rest in peace!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 09:39 PM

Very sad about the girl, but I'm skeptical about the coyotes. I live in Colorado and have seen many coyotes, and they always run from people. Coyotes are probably the most wrongly mis-maligned creatures on the planet.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: meself
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 11:18 PM

Regarding behviour of the eastern coyotes, here's a cut-and-paste from here :



Biologists said it's unlikely the coyotes involved had contracted rabies or were protecting young animals.

Bob Bancroft, a Nova Scotia wildlife biologist, said coyotes shy away from humans. But not all animals - particularly young, inexperienced coyotes in parks - view humans as predators.

"This is probably just a couple of coyotes that saw something vulnerable and went for it," he said. "It's horrible. It's not something you would expect at all."

Coyotes in the region are larger and behave somewhat differently than their counterparts in Western Canada, he said. Large males in Nova Scotia can weigh up to 60 pounds.

Simon Gadbois, a professor at Dalhousie University who studies animal behaviour, said hikers should always be vigilant and aware of their surroundings.

Should a hiker unintentionally surprise a coyote or other animal, Gadbois has simple, potentially life-saving advice: Never act like prey."The worst thing you can do is start running away," he said. "Wave your arms, shout, just show that you mean business basically and most animals will think twice."


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: open mike
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 01:19 AM

what a terribly shocking situation. Her music was beautifulll
condolences to her friends, family and fans.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Gweltas
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 05:51 AM

So dreadfully sad !! My condolences to all who loved her.
Gw XX


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Willie-O
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 07:23 AM

By purest chance I met Taylor just last Thursday, as she prepared to play at Bridge Street Cafe in Sackville. I had heard of her as an up-and-comer and was charmed by her music and person, as she ventured out on her first Maritime tour. She gamely played through to a nearly empty room (last minute booking, she commented with a rueful smile), a treat for the few in attendance. What a shock it was to hear her name on the news today as the victim of this tragedy. Tuesday was a beautiful day in the Maritimes--I went hiking myself in fact--and obviously no one saw this coming.   

I'd sure appreciate it if people didn't use this tragedy as a platform for venting their opinions for/against hunting, trapping, coyotes, animal rights, "greenies" etc etc (the comments here are pretty mild compared to those at the CBC news story). I am not referring to informative posts; it is worth knowing about the difference between eastern and western coyotes.

There's talk on Maplepost "to have the Canadian Folk Music Awards rename the Young Performer of the Year Award in Taylor's memory".
A fitting idea, to honour one lost so young who had already made such an impression. She is a nominee for the award this year.

Sadly
Bill


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Mooh
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 09:14 AM

Willie-O...Agreed, renaming the award would be a nice tribute to her.

What a sad end to such a bright beginning. Songs are made of such.

May she be at peace.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 10:44 AM

That would be a wonderful tribute to name the Young Performer of the Year Award in her honour. Although I didn't know Taylor before this incident, I feel so sad that this happened to a guest on what I regard as my doorstep.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 11:09 AM

Great idea.....Hope it happens.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 12:07 PM

The wildlife staff should be able to answer the question of what attacked this talented young woman. I'd be surprised if there were wolves roaming around Cape Breton but coyotes in Maine are certainly in the 50 pound range.

It is surprising that a pair of coyotes would dare to attack an adult but if the verdict of "coyotes" is confirmed hikers should be appropriately cautioned.

It is sad to lose some one who had her whole career planned out and was well on her way to the next step.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: meself
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 12:38 PM

There seems to be no question, other than on this thread, that it was coyotes that attacked ....


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Subject: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Canadian Folksinger
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 02:18 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8331106.stm


Sad and bizarre story. Just 19.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Willie-O
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 02:19 PM

There is no question that it was an Eastern Coyote attack. They were still attacking her when other hikers found the scene and chased them off.
At least one coyote suspect has been shot, and of course, the trail is closed to hikers at this time.

It's just been announced that Taylor's family has established a memorial fund in her honour, and contributions can be made at

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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 02:38 PM

Sorry for the duplicate thread.
This is such a terrible loss.
RIP
SINS


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 03:07 PM

How very sad. Just listening to her songs on myspace...she was really talented. I hope they do change the name of the award.

i live in Colorado, too, and the coyotes average closer to thirty pounds from what I've seen, about the same as my dog who is thirty-five. The one coyote I saw when living in Connecticut was much bigger...we thought it was a German Shepherd at first, so it had to have been at least 40-50 pounds.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: gnu
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 03:17 PM

Although not intended, the question of yotes has been discussed. We do not have yotes... we have eastern brush wolves. Oh, technically they are yotes, but they are bigger and hunt in packs, as do wolves. I doubt if there were only two of them.

In any case, the thread is about Taylor. A thread about yotes should be below the line.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Willie-O
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 04:56 PM

Taylor's manager Lisa Weitz has just forwarded to Maplepost this extremely thoughtful message from Emily's mom:

On behalf of my family, I want to express my deepest thanks for the outpouring of condolences and support from Taylor's friends and fans, near and far. My thanks to the hikers who called 911, the RCMP officer who first arrived on the scene and did his utmost to help her, as well as the incredible doctors and nurses at Queen Elizabeth II Hospital in Halifax who tried desperately to save her. I wish to also thank RCMP's Victims Services, and the Atlantica Hotel who've gone out of their way to support us during this difficult time.

There are no words to describe my grief. Taylor was my shining light, my baby, my confidante and best friend. My world is turned upside down and forever transformed without her. I don't know how to move forward from here but I know that she would want that for me and I will try to do that in her memory and celebrate her life in the way she lived it-- with passion, commitment and an unbridled loving heart.

I've noticed that the media have often mentioned that Taylor was hiking alone when the coyote attack occurred. I want people to know that Taylor was a seasoned naturalist and well versed in wilderness camping. She loved the woods and had a deep affinity for their beauty and serenity. Tragically it was her time to be taken from us so soon.

We take a calculated risk when spending time in nature's fold-- it's the wildlife's terrain. When the decision had been made to kill the pack of coyotes, I clearly heard Taylor's voice say, "please don't, this is their space". She wouldn't have wanted their demise, especially as a result of her own. She was passionate about animals, was an environmentalist, and was also planning to volunteer at the Toronto Wildlife Centre in the coming months.

Her loss is an incomprehensible tragedy on so many levels-- but everybody's messages of love and support and desire to keep her memory and music alive will help me to move forward and honour her short but full and vibrant life.

There will be a service and visitation, as well as a concert to celebrate her life and music.

Details will be finalized in the coming days.

With love and deep appreciation,

Emily Mitchell


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: open mike
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 07:34 PM

or, rather from Taylor's mom, Emily.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Willie-O
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 08:21 PM

Thanks, I'm not thinking straight any more. Or copy editing straight. Guess I need to get some sleep. Very very soon.

Bill


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Subject: RE: Obit: Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: GUEST,T.J. Ledoux
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 08:42 PM

I am so sorry for your loss, the hollowness you feel is one of the most difficult things to endure. A talented, young beautiful woman will be missed by a great many people who she touched with her music but never met. As a parent I can only imagine the tragic loss and if it happened to one of my children I don't know how I could cope. I wish God to be with you and comfort you in what seems a senseless loss. Many thoughts and people are with you I'm sure she will be remembered by many.


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Subject: RE: Obit: singer Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: GUEST,N Solow
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 10:00 PM

I just listened to one of her song's. What a young talent lost.

To her family and friends and music lovers everywhere my sincerest condolencies.

Norman


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Subject: RE: Obit: singer Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 10:28 PM

A very tragic loss. I heard her CD this summer and it was obvious she had talent and great potential. I'm sorry I never had a chance to meet her. From what I've read, she was a remarkable young woman.


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Subject: RE: Obit: singer Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: M.Ted
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 10:38 AM

This is terribly sad. We've lost a gifted and promising young woman, and we really needed her.


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Subject: RE: Obit: singer Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: GUEST,Bahama Kin
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 02:37 PM

Rest in Peace Taylor Mitchell
An Angel on Earth & Forever
Eternally Radiating your Music
Moment of Silence.
amen.
Bahama Kin


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Subject: RE: Obit: singer Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Joe Richman
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 02:38 PM

There is some sort of rule in field biology that animals found further north in N. America are generally larger than their southern cousins. I've heard that North Dakota coyotes are pretty big compared to Southern California coyotes.

Funny thing, last night as I was leaving work around 6 PM there was a lone coyote running back and forth in a fenced runway next to a concrete drainage channel in the middle of our industrial area in Santa Fe Springs (on the Whittier border). It was bigger than my Sheltie who is about 35 lbs.

Too bad about the young singer. We haven't had any coyote casualties around here, just couple of mountain lion casualties. (And a whole lot of human casualties...the most dangerous animal of all.)

Joe


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Subject: RE: Obit: singer Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 03 Nov 09 - 11:11 PM

Mother of Canadian Singer Killed by Coyotes Asks That the Animals Be Spared

By IAN AUSTEN
New York Times, November 1, 2009

Even in a country with a lot of wilderness, it was a shocking death. Taylor Josephine Stephanie Luciow, a promising 19-year-old folk singer from Toronto who performed under the name Taylor Mitchell, was attacked by two coyotes as she set out for a hike in Cape Breton Highlands National Park, one of Eastern Canada's leading tourist destinations. She died late Tuesday night in Halifax, where she had been airlifted for treatment.

The reaction of Ms. Mitchell's grief-stricken mother was perhaps more unusual: Emily Mitchell issued a statement to news organizations in which she asked authorities to spare any coyotes involved in the attack.

"We take a calculated risk when spending time in nature's fold — it's the wildlife's terrain," she wrote. "When the decision had been made to kill the pack of coyotes, I clearly heard Taylor's voice say, 'Please don't, this is their space.' She wouldn't have wanted their demise, especially as a result of her own."

Even before the statement appeared, a Parks Canada conservation officer had already killed one coyote that was behaving aggressively. And a police officer who came to Ms. Mitchell's aid thought he had shot and injured a second coyote.

Attacks by coyotes, even minor ones, on people are very unusual. Chip Bird, the Cape Breton field superintendent for Parks Canada, said that over his 30-year career, he had never seen a serious attack until last week, although six years ago a coyote "nipped someone's arm" in the park.

The trail where the attack occurred was still closed on Sunday afternoon, and a team from Parks Canada was continuing to study the coyotes in the area, which number about five. Mr. Bird would not rule out further killings if there were other dangerously aggressive animals, but he added that Ms. Mitchell's wish might be honored.

"We really have a lot of sympathy for her perspective," he said. "We're not out here conducting a general cull."


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Subject: RE: Obit: singer Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Willie-O
Date: 04 Nov 09 - 09:45 AM

DNA testing has confirmed that the first coyote killed by conservation officers was in fact one of the animals that attacked Taylor.

There was a note on Maplepost that a memorial concert is being planned in Toronto for Nov 24.

W-O


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Subject: RE: Obit: singer Taylor Mitchell, Oct 28, 2009
From: Willie-O
Date: 02 Nov 13 - 08:41 AM

Four years and the world has moved on, but Taylor is still in the hearts of those who loved her or were touched by her music and personality. I stopped into the Bridge Street Cafe in Sackville NB this summer and was touched to see a framed copy of the poster advertising her show there--the one about three people attended--permanently mounted on a pillar.

The CFMA's never did rename the Young Performer award--I suppose they had their reasons.

Personally I was inspired by meeting her to want to make something more of my own patchy music career, such as it is or
has been...thanks Taylor.


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