BS: Can the LibDems Win?

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: s&r
Date: 08 May 10 - 05:12 AM

Polling stations close at 2200. Some polling stations still had queues at that time. Those people who had not been given their voting form by 2200 couldn't cast a vote.

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bugsy
Date: 07 May 10 - 08:46 PM

A question from the southern hemisphere,

Why is the election always held on a Thursday?

Down here in AUS we have all our elections on a Saturday giving everyone more time to get to the polling booths.

I heard that some of the stations over there were inundated and had to close early. (I would guess that would be because most people were at work and came after).

Just wondered,

Bugsy

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: theleveller
Date: 07 May 10 - 06:46 PM

Yes, and the Spawn of She-Devil Thatcher STILL can't get a majority. That's NO MAJORITY therefore no mandate to form a government - what a bunch of losers!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 May 10 - 06:37 PM

So labour have lost almost 100 seats - that's almost 100, in case anyone can't hear - thats almost 100!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 May 10 - 03:42 PM

Therefore by the rules of the relevant erection, GB was elected.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: MikeL2
Date: 07 May 10 - 02:59 PM

Hi

Strictly speaking Brown was not elected as leader of the Labour party. He was the only candidate as none of the other Labour ministers stood against him.

John Major was elected by his party to be Leader : after two preliminary elections the other two contestants withdrew.


Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Lox
Date: 07 May 10 - 02:46 PM

The lib dems have won.

They will choose the party who enact PR straight away.

At the next election their share of power will increase by about a hundred votes.

Thats the liberal holy grail.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Teribus
Date: 07 May 10 - 01:26 PM

Can the Lib-Dems Win - NO

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 May 10 - 01:06 PM

No, Thorpe was the shafter. His little friend "Bunnies" was the pillowbiter. That was the point of my comment. Still, at least Eton, Westminster and St Pauls should understand that sort of power sharing.

"Dave" started his campaign with a 28 point lead in the polls. Some mandate he got! Er, that's the other sort, not man-date.

The financial meltdown resulted from trickle-down (Thatcher/Reagan) economic policies and Brown and Darling (and Obama) were well on the way to a solution and now the cut-now idiots will undo all the good done. How stupid are the electorate?

Finally (for this rant) there is I suppose a silver lining in that ID cards will vanish, and HIPs will vanish - both of which were bloody stupid ideas. But stupid is better than the malice of the conservative axe, which will cut only where it does the most harm to the poor and the least to the rich - as always.

As the song has it - "Ain't it all a bleeding shame?"

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 07 May 10 - 12:16 PM

NO, they can`t.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Lox
Date: 07 May 10 - 12:13 PM

"Consider how many seats PR would give to the BNP - just think on that nightmare and waste of government time!!"

They would be as significant in westminster as they are in Europe.

ie ... irrelevant.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Emma B
Date: 07 May 10 - 11:57 AM

Newspaper allegiances round-up:

The Daily Telegraph - Conservatives
The Sunday Telegraph - Conservatives
The Sun - Conservatives
Daily Mail - Conservatives
Daily Express - Conservatives
News of the World - Conservatives
The Times - Conservatives
The Sunday Times - Conservative
The Economist - Conservatives
The Mail on Sunday - Conservatives
The Financial Times - Conservatives

The Mirror - Labour, but urging tactical voting for Lib Dems

The Independent on Sunday - Liberal Democrats
The Guardian - Liberal Democrats
The Observer - Liberal Democrats

And the Tories still couldn't get an overall majority?

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: theleveller
Date: 07 May 10 - 11:42 AM

Tories are 20 seats short of a majority....20 seats!!!!! What a washout for them.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Jim McLean
Date: 07 May 10 - 11:36 AM

In Scotland the SNP had 20% of the vote and 6 seats. The Lib-Dems had 19% and 11 seats.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: GUEST,Allan
Date: 07 May 10 - 11:17 AM

"Gordon Brown was electd as an MP by his consituency, and elected as Leader by the Labour Party under their established election process. He was as 'elected' a Prime Minister as any other."

Exactly so! The Prime Minister is the leader of whichever party is in power and if the leader changes then the new leader simply becomes PM. Apart from Brown the last one to get the job that way was John Major.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 May 10 - 11:08 AM

I can't remember, Jim. I was but a lad and didn't know about these things.

But I remember a comment about someone lying there chewing the pillow. And a whole load of us going into histerics about Palethorpe sausages.

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 May 10 - 11:05 AM

91 seats now lost by labour.......91!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 07 May 10 - 10:44 AM

David el Gnomo - are we talking about Jeremy Thorpe?

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 May 10 - 10:39 AM

Bend over and brace yourself, Bozo - Dave and his cohorts have got plans for you and the rest of the Mucky Toffs. Hope you've got a big jar of Vaseline! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 May 10 - 10:37 AM

Consider how many seats PR would give to the BNP - just think on that nightmare and waste of government time!!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 May 10 - 10:35 AM

BTW - In answer to the thread question. I think they are probably the only ones who might have!

DeG

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: theleveller
Date: 07 May 10 - 10:27 AM

"I laugh at the typical labour ranting and raving - bad losers!!"

You seem to be the only person who thinks they know who's won. One thing is for certain - it isn't the Tories.

Seems to me that, after 40 million or so people have voted (or whetever it was)it comes down to the casting vote of one man.

Democracy in action?

(BTW, boko, whatever makes you think that I voted Labour?)

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Lox
Date: 07 May 10 - 10:14 AM

Richard - Brown has responded by offering unconditional electoral reform effective immediately if he gets into government.

Cameron has offered an enquiry into electoral reform.

The Libs have a very clear policy preference.

Don't Panic.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 May 10 - 10:08 AM

I've lost track of who is winding up whom here!!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 May 10 - 10:03 AM

Didn't another Lib leader do that Richard?

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 May 10 - 10:02 AM

Just bite the pillow, Nick.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 May 10 - 09:59 AM

If Clegg takes it up the arse from "Dave" (well, he should be used to it, having gone to Westminster) it will be the end of the LDs

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 May 10 - 09:54 AM

I laugh at the typical labour ranting and raving - bad losers!!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 May 10 - 09:54 AM

I am not at all convinced that Brown was not put in place simply to make Blair look good after he lost face over Iraq. I am sure there were better political choices than Mr Bean! STill, all over now bar the shouting. Don't think he will last long as leader.

DeG

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Lox
Date: 07 May 10 - 09:10 AM

In fact I can't help but wonder how Labour might have done with someone like Milliband as their leader.

Gordon was caught calling a woman a bigot and then didn't have the balls to stand by his comment ... not to mention public perception of him before the campaign started ...

... And the tories still didn't get an absolute majority?

Shame!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: theleveller
Date: 07 May 10 - 08:37 AM

LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 May 10 - 08:18 AM

"Brown is "an unelected prime minister" who has been voted out of office and must go."

Why don't you dopes get it - there's no such thing as an elected Prime Minister, our electoral process doesn't include a space on the ballot paper where you can vote for the Prime Minister.

Gordon Brown was electd as an MP by his consituency, and elected as Leader by the Labour Party under their established election process. He was as 'elected' a Prime Minister as any other.

And before you crow, Bonzo-Half-A-Brain, face facts - this is a disaster for the Tories. With the events of the past two years they should have won the election with a huge majority. As it is, they'll struggle to form a government because a lot of people realised that Cameron's just a Pretty-Boy-Soundbite-Collector, with no recognisable or credible policies, who relies on people who enjoy taking it up the arse from the Toffs to vote for his appalling party.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: theleveller
Date: 07 May 10 - 07:56 AM

...and this from someone who lives in Croydon - UGH!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: theleveller
Date: 07 May 10 - 07:54 AM

"comprehensive/secondary modern people not unot understand English "

You snotty bastard - I assume you went to some minor public school where you were beaten, bullied and buggered into having that brain-dead lickspittle attitude.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: theleveller
Date: 07 May 10 - 07:50 AM

Everyone ready for the next election?

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 May 10 - 07:45 AM

That's a good typo - I must use that again!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Lox
Date: 07 May 10 - 07:41 AM

it seems that Bonzo does "not unot understand English" as well as he thinks he does ...

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 May 10 - 07:19 AM

PR is not on my agenda, can you comprehensive/secondary modern people not unot understand English - I celebrate the labour loss of 89 seats or whatever it is now,

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 07 May 10 - 07:14 AM

What's to celebrate, the fact that PR is as far away as ever?

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 May 10 - 07:02 AM

89 labour seats lost.........blue suit..........celebration!!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: theleveller
Date: 07 May 10 - 06:11 AM

The fact is, Lox, that although BonzoBoko claims to be an accountant, he can't add up - wouldn't like to be one of his clients!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Lox
Date: 07 May 10 - 06:07 AM

Yes Jack.

That is the big news.

Well done Brighton for having the guts to ignore the 2 party tactical blackmail lie.

And Well Done Caroline Lucas.

At the next election, when we have PR, her party will win more seats as will the lib dems.

There might be a BNP candidate or 2 who scrapes in but society will be represented.

Oh yes - and the big parties will have to grow up and learn to cooperate.

All this idea that a Hung Parliament is a nightmare is only true in a first past the post system where the government can be undermined by the threat of a no confidence motion followed by another first past the post election.

Under PR, the main parties would have to stop behaving like spoiled children fighting over a toy.

Bonzo3legs - why are you wearing a blue suit? In all likelihood the tories will be in opposition for another 5 years after which PR will ensure that they never have an absolute majority ever again.

Your dream is over.

But you carry on gloating if you like.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: theleveller
Date: 07 May 10 - 06:07 AM

"Brown is "an unelected prime minister" who has been voted out of office and must go. "

By the same token, if Spawn of She-Devil Cameron took office, he too would be an unelected Prime Minister as he does not have a decisive mandate to do so. Sauce for the goose, Boko!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 07 May 10 - 06:07 AM

Hi

The answer to the original question posed is obviously no !!!!!

There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.....then comes the negotiating !!!

IMHO Clegg will go with Tories .....what it will cost them and us...who knows ??

Bad day for the Country.

The real downer is that in this age of financial debt we look like another election is on the cards very soon.

Does anyone know just how much this will cost an already bankrupt Country ??

cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Stu
Date: 07 May 10 - 05:48 AM

Good news that the Green Party have their first MP too.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 May 10 - 05:46 AM

Absolutely!

Brown is "an unelected prime minister" who has been voted out of office and must go.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bugsy
Date: 07 May 10 - 05:37 AM

One bright light there though, no BNP!!!!


Cheers

bugsy

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 May 10 - 05:13 AM

A useless prime minister indeed who has lost so many seats.

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 07 May 10 - 02:32 AM

We will celebrate the loss of so many labour seats!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Can the LibDems Win?
From: DougR
Date: 06 May 10 - 07:39 PM

Well, McGrath, somebody is going to win. I doubt Labor's attitude toward NHS is more conservative than the other two parties running.

DougR