BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)

Subject: Obit: xxl trousers
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 May 10 - 11:02 PM

ello Joe its me..
i've been off ill for a while..
you can put this upstairs in 'folk'
or down in the coal shed with "BS"
up to you..
put please don't let the clone thugs delete
until i get a satisfactory answer.

and if there is an old obscure folk song on this subject

all the better for the data base...



what the f@ck is wrong with trouser sizes these days !!???

i've been ill and inactive and put on about 3 or 4 stone in the last 18 months..

last time i had to replace worn out trousers xl and xxl meant they fit my fat arse
and provided plenty room to grow if needed..


that was 7 years ago and at my most fattest

since then I spent many hard hours in the gym
and got down to 14 stone 6 pack fitness..

then bad luck ill health and stuck in house inactivity
and back up to 17 stone now.

so I need new trousers..

I am now the same fat arse shape I was 7 years ago last time..

but xl and xxl trousers now fit like ballet dancer trapeze artists tights..??

what the f@ck has happened to trousers since last time i had a fat arse.??

is it the recession ??

is cotton a scarse commodity ??

why is XL now like scuba fetish rubber ware
and xxl barely more than something to let a wet fart dribble freely down your inner leg !!??

where have all the baggy loon flower pants gone !!!???



ok, please i need a uk web link for fat arse pure cotton
dark blue or black rugby trouser with a draw string tie waste..???
please dontdelete this thred until i get a link to some new comfy uk trousers ...

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 May 10 - 11:26 PM

errrmm..
just measured and my waste has now expanded to approx 46 inches

[allowing for gas and fluid (cider & sausages)}

however despite stuck in house infirmity failure to stay fit and in shape

i am convinced there is now a textile industry conspiracy to ruthlessly
economise on raw material costs

and shrink our old trouser sizes

down to barbie and ken fittings..!!!???

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: mousethief
Date: 30 May 10 - 12:16 AM

You guys need actual measurement sizes like men's trousers are here in the US. 36x34 jeans always have a 36 inch waistband and a 34 inch inseam.

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 May 10 - 12:54 AM

But women's wear doesn't have it and I agree, pfr, over here it seems the sizes keep shrinking, plus the "fashion" of the day seems to be to wear stuff which is skin tight anyway, with bare bellies...all the younger girls dress that way, it seems, and it doesn't matter if they are thin, obese, or anything in between. Plus they wear hip-huggers which makes even more of a divide twixt hem of blouse/shirt and top of trousers, thus exposing more belly-roll. I'm not a prude, but I sure don't think much of the fad fashions these days. I also don't get too hung up on what the label says size-wise. If it fits and is comfortable, that's all that counts. Good luck and I hope you are feeling well, now.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 May 10 - 01:48 AM

'ello pfr. No problem, as long as your trousers stay in one thread and in the non-music section.

And if you click this Trousers link, maybe you'll find them....

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 30 May 10 - 02:06 AM

Try this company Punkfolkrocker

Clouds Clothing Ltd: Sunnydene, Main Street, Bigby, North Lincolnshire DN38 6EW
Tel: [phone] 01652 628413    Fax:[phone]    Email: [e-mail]

Although they appear to sell mainly to OAP's, they do stock the following, which might be what you are looking for (Give them a call- they are very helpful).

http://cloudsclothing.co.uk/Details.asp?ProductID=95

or this one

http://cloudsclothing.co.uk/Details.asp?ProductID=193

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 May 10 - 07:55 AM

"You guys need actual measurement sizes like men's trousers are here in the US. 36x34 jeans always have a 36 inch waistband and a 34 inch inseam."

Exactly the same in the UK, mousethief (although I always wonder what kind of beanpole could possibly have a 36" waist and 34" inside leg - some kinda matchstick-man?).

But I think pfr is looking for something akin to what we call 'joggers' - loose-fitting, soft, stretchy material with either an elasticated or drawstring waist. They come sized in (usually) S, M, L, XL OR XXL - I guess because the stretchy waist has plenty of 'play' in it, so couldn't really be described in inches.

pfr - I, too, used to be over 17st with a 46" waist, but long-term illness and inactivity made me lose over 6 stone and drop to 36" waist! I always found M&S's joggers were generously-sized, but they might not be exactly what you're after.

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 May 10 - 10:43 AM

So, are your 'joggers' the same as America's 'sweat pants'?

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 May 10 - 11:00 AM

Ebay.
And I am with kat on this one. Our office dress code is business casual which means wear whatever you want. I am usually in casual slacks and a turtleneck. Some of the women have beautiful figures and can wear short skirts and tight tops. They look very sexy (by my ancient standards) but perfectly acceptable going by what I see on the street. What I can't understand are the fat ladies in midi tops and tight hip huggers. We have one well into her forties who sits with her cheeks hanging out. Pretty revolting. Sometimes she walks around and looks like she should be wearing a tool belt.
Here is a link to big and Tall Men's sites US:

http://www.google.com/search?q=big+and+tall+men%27s&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8
And some Ebay also US
http://clothing.shop.ebay.com/Pants-/57989/i.html?Waist%2520Size=3XL&_nkw=sweatpants&_catref=1&_dmpt=US_CSA_MC_Pants&_fln=1&_sso

Hope this helps. And next time don't throw away all your fat clothes. We ladies keep three wardrobes going at any given time if only for the monthly bloating.
SINS

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Newport Boy
Date: 30 May 10 - 11:01 AM

Try Cotton Traders - Fran Cotton knows about rugby players sizes. Most trousers come in S,M,L,XL,2XL,3XL,4XL,5XL - you should find what you want there.

www.cottontraders.co.uk

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 May 10 - 11:50 AM

Bigby How fitting...

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Bill D
Date: 30 May 10 - 12:00 PM

"I always wonder what kind of beanpole could possibly have a 36" waist and 34" inside leg."

Me!.... 6'1"....(although 33" is better, they are harder to find.) That is nothing...when I was about 18-19, I was 6'1" with a 26" waist.135 lbs.
Try finding 26" X 34" jeans! My mother spent years taking in most of my trousers! I didn't gain weight until I was just past 30. Now 165lbs.

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: open mike
Date: 30 May 10 - 01:31 PM

what (how much) is a stone?

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 May 10 - 02:19 PM

A stone is 14 pounds. So a ten stone person weighs 140 pounds.

I wonder how and when it dropped out of the American consciousness.

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Bill D
Date: 30 May 10 - 02:39 PM

Almost everything else is weighed in lbs, tons...etc.. I guess it just seemed an extraneous category of measure. You don't say "give me ten stone of fertilizer"....do you?

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 May 10 - 03:05 PM

Hi Punkfolkrocker,

Buy from the USA mate. Our XXL is Medium there, if the film we see is anything to go by.

Cops' uniform trousers are a particular case in point.

LOL
Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: IvanB
Date: 30 May 10 - 03:55 PM

Well, gee, Sins, if it comes in our size it MUST look good on us.

A mantra my wife and I recite whenever we see a person of our heft wearing some of these creations, the "NOT!" at the end of the statement being implicit.

Unfortunately, clothing makers do and will continue to make clothing in styles and sizes for people for whom it is entirely inappropriate and some will buy and wear it.

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 May 10 - 04:05 PM

I imagine we would actually be likely to buy fertiliser by the stone rather than the pound, Bill.

I always find when Americans talk about the weight of some person is pounds I have to do mental arithmetic to work out whether that is heavy or - and I don't know my fourteen times table. Stones is much easier, if you're used to them. And presumably at one time Americans would have been used to them, but abandoned them.

Give me the weight in kilogrammes of course, and it's even worse, because I have to do two mental arithmetic sums, first to pounds and then to stones.

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Leadfingers
Date: 30 May 10 - 06:08 PM

I can cope with Pounds - I'm currently 150 , which is about five or six more than when I was Nineteen ! Not bad at sixty eight !

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Bill D
Date: 30 May 10 - 09:02 PM

I did some searching, Kevin...asterisks & bold type mine. Maybe another generation? (I suppose 14 'feels' smaller than 140)

"Although the 1985 Weights and Measures Act[5] expressly prohibited the use of the stone as a unit of measure for purposes of trade (other than as a supplementary unit), the stone remains widely used within the United Kingdom and Ireland as a means of expressing human body weight. People in these countries normally describe themselves as weighing, for example, "11 stone 4" (11 stones and 4 pounds), rather than "72 kilograms" in most other countries, or "158 pounds" (the conventional way of expressing the same weight in the United States and Canada).[6]

Its widespread **colloquial** use may be compared to the persistence in the United Kingdom of other Imperial units like the foot, the inch, and the mile, despite these having been supplanted entirely or partly by metric units in official use and other contexts. Thus on a National Health Service Web site the user may select either metric or Imperial units,[7] but the law requires that if this information is officially recorded, then such records shall be in metric units.[8]"

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 May 10 - 02:30 PM

The question is, when did Americans stop using stones. My impression is that generally speaking Americans tend to hold on to old things, as evidenced by the way they have resisted any moves towards metrication, and hang on to inches and feet and pounds and gallons and so forth. So what happened to the stones?

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 31 May 10 - 02:54 PM

So where is folkpunkrocker

has he found what he needs or not?

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 31 May 10 - 04:31 PM

Even in the US, the sizes for clothing can vary a lot, depending on where you shop.

Trousers, as in slacks or jeans, usually are labelled with waist and inseam, but occasionally I've seen jeans marked only as S, M, L, XL etc. I find it impossible to fit into any of those sizes.

Even when marked with waist and inseam, changes in styles make it uncertain what you'll get, since the length from waist to crotch (the starting point for the inseam length) have varied quite a bit recently. (There seams to have been a resurgence of the "stuffed codpiece" concept, only slightly disguised, among recent teen/tween buyers.)

Shirts (in non-stretchy cloth) should give neck size and arm length (I look for something around 17 x 33 which gives me a somewhat loose neck; but I never wear neckties). These sizes are useful, but sometimes misleading, since the "yoke width" may vary by quite a lot, and an unusually wide yoke demands a shorter sleeve for approximately similar fit.

Even "dressy" shirts are also very frequently found only with S, M, L, XL, XXL or 2XL, and XXXL or 3XL. Rarely the SML sized things will have a fine print "38 to 96 chest" to explain how they determine the size. Here, one might assume the "chest range" is in inches, but that appears not to be invariably the case.

Anything "stretchy" will usually be marked only by size groups, S, M, L, etc..

The biggest problem with finding clothing is the "marketing mantra" that anything that reaches 8% of sales is the only thing stocked. Since idiot children are the most prominent "faddists," and buy far more than the magic 8% of clothing, at many places you can only buy clothing "styled" for obese 9 y.o. tastes. (That may account for some of the apparently large numbers of 20 - 40 year old buyers who appparently do choose to dress like a child?)

While a few years ago you could beat the faddist buyers at the mass market shops by going to a more exclusive (higher priced) seller, even the more sophisticated shops have begun "following trends" to the extent that serviceable and comfortable clothing can only be found by dedicated search expeditions demanding perseverence and a well-stocked debit card (although I still prefer to write a check just for the pleasure of annoying the unhelpful "help").

John

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Bill D
Date: 31 May 10 - 05:00 PM

If you start a search in wikipedia, you will get a dozen pages referring to various weights & measures. The closest I could find for 'stone' is that the 1824 revision of the UK system was not adopted in the USA.

(I suppose it is just as interesting to ask why the UK keeps using mile, foot...etc. in many cases. We in the US are gradually..(VERY gradually)... using some metric measures, at least where it is easy to put both types side be side, as on a carpenters' rule.)

I suppose it would be as difficult to change all the systems as would be for the UK to move to driving on the right... *grin*

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 31 May 10 - 09:54 PM

hello old mudflap mates..

punkfolkrocker [that's me] is very appreciative of all constructive links
to comfy trousers..

this weekend is a bank holiday in the uk
and also our wedding anniversary [approx 28 in human years]

so me and the mrs have been on a bit of a cider and wine bender
because we can have a lie in and sleep it off tuesday.

tonight i celebrated and ate 5 burger king angus/whoppa cardiac arrest specials
[2 for price of 1 vouchers in local free paper]
and a 2 litre self destruction tub of cornish ice cream..

tomorrow I sober up and face up to the pain and discipline
of getting back into the 5 sessions a week gym routine...

i'm starting to feel well enough again..

bollocks to middle age surprise attack health problems...


thank you for caring and tolerating..


but right now i've still got a bottle of thatchers vintage and a bottle of tesco rose in the fridge..

..then i've got to wake up and learn our bands song list for an anarchist beer festival
in brighton this weekend..

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 08:08 AM

You don't say "give me ten stone of fertilizer"....do you?

Of course not, that'd be one and a quarter hundredweight, or 1.25 CWT.

Hope this clarifies:o)

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 08:55 AM

big ozzy

I know somebody who shops here and they are very good.

Subject: RE: BS: xxl trousers needed (UK)
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 11:30 AM

[quote]
You don't say "give me ten stone of fertilizer"....do you?
[/quote]
These days you would buy in kilos (UK)

I used to by amimal feed by the stone 15 years ago but that is all metric now.