Subject: Lyr Req: Songs sung by football/other sports fans From: GUEST,Richard I Date: 11 Feb 11 - 07:49 PM I was reading through the "'new' traditional songs" thread, and I was very interested to see a sideline of debate over whether You'll Never Walk Alone (originally Rodgers and Hammerstein, via Gerry Marsden, now adopted by Liverpool FC fans) should be considered a folk song. As MtheGM wrote in that thread, "Moreover, Jim, re Never Walk Alone: it has become part of a regular ritual, sung by people, many of whom are probably unaware of its origin, on specific occasions ~~ or, rather, a repeated specific occasion, a match in which Liverpool FC are playing. It could almost, it seems to me, be included in a reissue of the old Caedmon/Topic Folk Songs Of Britain set, volume 9, Songs Of Ceremony." I have a personal interest in this topic, because I am a Liverpool FC fan, for whom the singing of this song is indeed a ritual. But thinking over and beyond YNWA, I would say that the continuing existance of a proper tradition of community singing and oral tradition among football fans is really something worth celebrating. In actual fact there are very few songs I've got through the "oral tradition", and most of them are either football songs or lullabys. Singing at the match and in the pub before and afterwards is part of what it means to be a football fan, and learning the words to the songs is part of the initiation ("you got your education from the Kop" as we sing at Liverpool) So I wanted to start this thread a) to pursue the discussion of whether the songs sung by football fans, rugby fans, and any other sports fans who sing as a community and pass the songs on as part of an oral culture, are really folk songs. Something I'm particularly curious about: would any of you get up and sing these sports fans songs at folk clubs, or at singarounds etc.? I have, not sure how welcome it was though. But then again, surely what's being sung as part of a thriving communal oral tradition is far more 'folk music' than the ossified stuff at folk clubs, right? [/devils advocate] and b) to ask people if they have interesting examples of songs that are sung by sports fans. Football, rugby, baseball, whatever. |
Subject: Lyr Add: POOR SCOUSER TOMMY From: GUEST,Richard I Date: 11 Feb 11 - 07:52 PM Just to get the ball rolling, here's one of my favourite Liverpool FC songs, apparently first heard on the terraces in the 1970s. There are a lot of disagreements about the words, this is the version that I learned, but some people will swear blind that e.g. it should be 'libyan sun' and not 'arabian sun'. POOR SCOUSER TOMMY (first part to the tune of Red River Valley, second part to the tune of The Sash) Let me tell you the story of a poor boy Who was sent far away from his home To fight for his King and his country And also the old folks back home So they put him in a Highland division Sent him off to a far foreign land Where the flies swarm around in their thousands And there's nothing to see but the sand In the battle that started next morning Under an Arabian sun I remember that Poor Scouser Tommy Who was shot by an old Nazi gun As he lay on the battlefield dying (dying dying) With the blood gushing out of his head (of his head) As he lay on the battlefield dying (dying dying) These were the last words he said: Ohhhhhhh I am a Liverpudlian I come from the Spion Kop I like to sing, I like to shout I get thrown out quite a lot (every week) I support the team that plays in red A team that we all know A team that we call Liverpool And to glory we will go We've won the league, we've won the cup We've been to Europe too We've played the toffees for a laugh And left them feeling blue (five-nil) 1 2 123 1234 Five-nil |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs sung by football/other sports fans From: maple_leaf_boy Date: 11 Feb 11 - 07:59 PM Bring It On Home by the Inverness Caledonian Thistle Football Club. Oh the Rangers Are $h!te by the Celtic Football Club. Those are popular sports songs. I have the lyrics to that Celtic one in another thread. I'll find it and copy it to this thread. |
Subject: Lyr Add: NA NA HEY HEY KISS HIM GOODBYE From: maple_leaf_boy Date: 12 Feb 11 - 04:51 PM This song is commonly played by the home team at sporting events when they beat the visiting team. Usually they just play the chorus. NA NA HEY HEY KISS HIM GOODBYE - by "Steam" Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey-ey, goodbye He'll never love you, the way that I love you 'Cause if he did, no no, he wouldn't make you cry He might be thrillin' baby but a-my love (my love, my love) So dog-gone willin' So kiss him (I wanna see you kiss him. Wanna see you kiss him) Go on and kiss him goodbye, now Na na na na, hey hey-ey, goodbye Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey-ey, goodbye Listen to me now He's never near you to comfort and cheer you When all those sad tears are fallin' baby from your eyes He might be thrillin' baby but a-my love (my love, my love) So dog-gone willin' So kiss him (I wanna see you kiss him. I wanna see you kiss him) Go on and kiss him goodbye, na-na na-na-na na na Na na na na, hey hey-ey, goodbye [fade in] Hey hey-ey, goodbye Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey-ey, goodbye Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey-ey, goodbye Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey-ey, goodbye [repeat many times and fade out] Source: stlyrics.com |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs sung by football/other sports fans From: GUEST,Jon Date: 12 Feb 11 - 05:00 PM I've given it before but Norwich City have what is probably the oldest football song. The chorus is still sung by supporters. In the days to call, which we have left behind, Our boyhood's glorious game, And our youthful vigour has declined With its mirth and its lonesome end; You will think of the time, the happy time, Its memories fond recall When in the bloom of your youthful prime We've kept upon the ball Kick off, throw in, have a little scrimmage, Keep it low, a splendid rush, bravo, win or die; On the ball, City, never mind the danger, Steady on, now's your chance, Hurrah! We've scored a goal. Let all tonight then drink with me To the football game we love, And wish it may successful be And in one grand united toast Join player, game and song And fondly pledge your pride and toast Success to the City club. Kick off, throw in, have a little scrimmage, Keep it low, a splendid rush, bravo, win or die; On the ball, City, never mind the danger, Steady on, now's your chance, Hurrah! We've scored a goal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Ball,_City |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE SOUTERS O' SELKIRK From: Allan Conn Date: 13 Feb 11 - 05:51 AM I know of another song which is still sung regularly locally (though not at football matches as such) which 'possibly' started out as a celebration of victory after a football match in the first half of the 18thC between the town of Selkirk and the men of the Merse ( ie from estates of the Earl of Hume) in the Scottish Borders. There would have been an added edge to it as by tradition Selkirk lost many men at the 16thC Battle of Flodden (ie The Flooers o' the Forest) and the Earl of Hume's men were accused, probably unfairly, of leaving the field of conflict. This explanation of the song is stated in the book "Songs of Scotland Prior To Burns" which was edited by Robert Chambers in 1862. It states that the illusion to Flodden has given rise to the idea that the song was about Flodden but the said explanation is taken from the earlier Statistical Account of Selkirk by the Rev Robertson. No date given for that publication. Though I moved away I am a Souter in that I was born in Selkirk – the word means shoe-maker. The football in mind of course is not modern football but its precursor which is still played through the streets of some towns from the north of Scotland down to certainly as far as Derbyshire. The most famous annual Borders game is Jethart Ba' (ie Jedburgh) between the Uppies and Dounies which was played just three days ago. THE SOUTERS O' SELKIRK. Up wi the souters o' Selkirk And down wi the Earl of Hume But up wi ilka braw callant That sews the single soled shoon Fy upon yellow and yellow And fy upon yellow and green But up wi the true blue and scarlet And up wi the single soled shoon Up wi the lads o' the Forest That ne'er to the Southron would yield But deil scoup o' Hume and his menyie That stood sae abeigh in the field Fy on the green and the yellow The craw hearted loons o' the Merse But here's tae the souters o' Selkirk The elshin, the lingle, the birse Then up wi the souters o' Selkirk For aye they are baith trusty and leal And up wi the lads o' the Forest And down wi the Merse to the deil. Couldn't find a good clip of song being sung but this youtube clip of the Common Riding shows the Casting of the Colours ceremony which is done to said tune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3vd7KsTs3A |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs sung by football/other sports fans From: GUEST,Desi C Date: 13 Feb 11 - 07:22 AM I supppose there are numerous definitions of what makes a song 'Folk' One I've read and agree with is 'music of the times and people of those times' Which fully qualifies The Liverpool anthem, especially now you've got King Kenny back and that's wort singing about. I'm A Birmingham City F.C sympathiser (they disappoint so much!) and their anthrm is Keep Right On To The End Of THe Road, which I rate a folk song too, even if the road for B'Ham supporters is getting woefully longer each season! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs sung by football/other sports fans From: GUEST,Alan Whittle Date: 13 Feb 11 - 09:45 AM Unless you've got the bloke that wrote 'Three Lions', i suppose i win this round. My song about Karl heinz Rummenigge is mentioned in every biography of the great man, and i'm in the boxed set of delights for Bayern Munich fans. The song even made it to the terraces - well an obscene version of it did. It was about the time he got transferred to Inter Milan, and there was a version saying KHR was an unpatriotic scoundrel for going abroad. http://www.bigalwhittle.co.uk/id12.html |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs sung by football/other sports fans From: Clontarf83 Date: 13 Feb 11 - 07:24 PM Manchester City fans sing (?) (More like shout) the refrain from "Blue Moon". Definitely not folk. It doubles as a triumphal hymn when things go well on the field and as a defiant song of support when things go sideways My favourite one (I think it came from West Ham supporters,) regarding a forward who always seemed to shoot over the bar "When you sit in row z And a ball hits our head that's Zamora" |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs sung by football/other sports fans From: Dave MacKenzie Date: 13 Feb 11 - 07:31 PM Irish fans love 'Fields of Athenry' In Wales you'll often hear Max Boyce's 'Hymns and Arias'. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs sung by football/other sports fans From: Tattie Bogle Date: 15 Feb 11 - 09:26 AM Celtic FC also use "Fields of Athenry", which makes it a bit of problem in some quarters in scotland (i.e. if around any Rangers fans! Ipswich Town also had "Keep Right on to the End of the Road" back in the 60s when Alf Ramsey was manager (before he went on to be England's World Cup manager). As far as I know, it's no longer their song. Never a folk song: it was written by Harry Lauder, after the death of his son in WW1 see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Lauder and listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgqhdpPB8Y4 |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs sung by football/other sports fans From: melodeonboy Date: 15 Feb 11 - 09:48 AM "I asked Don Revie the other day Have you heard of the North Bank, Highbury? Don said 'No, I don't think so But I've heard of the Rainham End, Gillingham'" I know the tune, but can't name it! Circa 1970, I think! There was also, around the same time, the rather more aggressive "adapted" last two lines of "I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles": "Tottenham always running, Chelsea running too Here come the Gillingham boot boys, running after you!" |
Subject: Lyr Add: EVERY OTHER SATURDAY From: GUEST,Richard I Date: 15 Feb 11 - 10:49 AM Interesting stuff (to me anyway!) so far Here's a song that's originally a Rangers song from the 1960s I think (The version i know is one that's been adapted for Liverpool, but I'll give the original Rangers version here) I think it's a fantastic song, one of the real classic football songs, which is probably why LFC fans have tried to sing it themselves... EVERY OTHER SATURDAY Every other Saturday's my half day off And it's off the match I go Happily we wonder down the Copland road Me and my wee pal Joe We love to see the lassies with the blue scarves on We love to hear the boys all roar But I don't have to tell you that the best of all We love to see the Rangers score Me oh me oh me oh my Oh how we love to see them try We love to see the lassies with the blue scarves on We love to hear the boys all roar But I don't have to tell you that the best of all We love to see the Rangers score We've won the Scottish league almost every time The league cup's a simple do We've gave some exhibitions in the Scottish cup We gave some Wembley Wizards too And when the Glasgow Rangers win the European Cup As we done with the one before We'll gather down at Ibrox A hundred thousand strong And give the boys a Ibrox roar Me oh me oh me oh my Oh how we love to see them try We love to see the lassies with the blue scarves on We love to hear the boys all roar But I don't have to tell you that the best of all We love to see the Rangers score |
Subject: Lyr Add: OH THE RANGERS ARE SHITE+BRING IT ON HOME From: maple_leaf_boy Date: 17 Feb 11 - 08:17 PM In an earlier post, I mentioned I posted the lyrics to "Oh The Rangers Are Shite" in an another thread. I didn't find it, but I'll post them here, and the other song that I mentioned "Bring It On Home". OH THE RANGERS ARE SHITE - Glasgow Celtic Oh, the Rangers are Shite Wee Dick's spent their money, Big Eck's got it tight They deal in Bosmans, while we get it right Oh, the Rangers are Shite Oh, the Rangers are Shite They're no match for our boys in Green and White Jeffers and Fanfare are up to the fight Oh, the Rangers are Shite Oh, the Rangers are Shite Wee Dick's spent their money, Big Eck's got it tight They deal in Bosmans, while we get it right Oh, the Rangers are Shite G. Strachans' got us playing football Big eck's banging his head on the wall But all his shite signings are his after all Soon he'll be getting the call Oh, the Rangers are Shite Wee Dick's spent their money, Big Eck's got it tight They deal in Bosmans, while we get it right Oh, the Rangers are Shite 4th in the league is their spot They're nearer to 8th place than they are to the top the huns, they are fuming, their giants been stopped yet Big Eck is offered the job Oh, the Rangers are Shite Wee Dick's spent their money, Big Eck's got it tight They deal in Bosmans, while we get it right Oh, the Rangers are Shite Big Eck, he will sign anything Big Marvin's a ballbag, Stan Petrov's a king and Danny's a fanny, he shags Novo's ring so raise up your glasses and sing Oh, the Rangers are Shite Wee Dick's spent their money, Big Eck's got it tight They deal in Bosmans, while we get it right Oh, the Rangers are Shite Now Murray, he looks on with dread He's spent all his heathers He's got fuck all left But Rangers in crisis has never been said, Even though their season is dead Oh, the Rangers are Shite Wee Dick's spent their money, Big Eck's got it tight They deal in Bosmans, while we get it right Oh, the Rangers are Shite Oh, the Rangers are Shite Wee Dick's spent their money, Big Eck's got it tight They deal in Bosmans, while we get it right Oh, the Rangers are Shite BRING IT ON HOME - Inverness Caledonian Thistle Bring it on home, bring it on home Inverness Caledonian Thistle Bring it on home, bring it on home 'Til we roll to the final whistle Caley and the Jags wearing their red and blue Caley and the Jags Doing their best for you (Could be doing it just for you). Hearts have been broken Many an angry word's been spoken Families disunited Father and son on opposite sides But all through the tears And the memories of those golden years Two teams into one Bring it (yet to be transcribed phrase) Always be a winner (Doing it just for you) Bring it on home, bring it on home Inverness Caledonian Thistle Bring it on home, bring it on home 'Til we roll to the final whistle Caley and the Jags wearing their red and blue Caley and the Jags Doing it just for you Caley and Thistle Teams of a town divided Strong, brave, defiant Never give in 'til the final whistle Right to the end Both sides have fought their battles Now just as one team They're on the run A new fight's begun And Thistle and Eagle are one Bring it on home Bring it on home Bring it on home, bring it on home Inverness Caledonian Thistle Bring it on home, bring it on home ??? ??? to the final whistle Bring it on home, bring it on home Inverness Caledonian Thistle Bring it on home, bring it on home Til we roll to the final whistle Caley and the Jags wearing their red and blue Caley and the Jags Doing it just for you Bring it on home, bring it on home Inverness Caledonian Thistle Bring it on home, bring it on home Inverness Caledonian Thistle Bring it on home, bring it on home Inverness Caledonian Thistle (fade) In "Bring It On Home" the lyrics are based on the history of the club when two teams merged to for the ICT Football Club, nicknamed the "Caley Jags". I had help from the fan's forum. The recording that I have is tricky when transcribing the lyrics. |
Subject: Souters o' Selkirk From: Matt Seattle Date: 07 Mar 11 - 07:15 AM I'm intrigued to know the source of Allan Conn's version of Souters o' Selkirk (posted in RE: Lyr Req: Songs sung by football/other sports fans) It is the fullest lyric I've ever come across, and having now looked up "The elshin, the lingle, the birse" I find they are all shoemaking terms, in lines which escaped Burns and Scott - great stuff. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs sung by football/other sports fans From: Dave MacKenzie Date: 07 Mar 11 - 04:57 PM At Easter Road you're likely to hear the Proclaimers' "Sunshine on Leith". |
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