BS: Who will run with Romney?

Subject: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 02:17 PM

Romney Mate?

Will he pick some firebrand to shore up the base?
A safe pick from a swing state?

Is Dick Cheney available?

Dan Quayle?

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: kendall
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 02:34 PM

He had better be damn careful and not make the mistake McCain made

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 02:37 PM

LOL.....Actually Kendall I am hoping he DOES make that mistake!

My best guess is Rob Portman.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 02:43 PM

Actually Kendall I am hoping he DOES make that mistake!

It would be a great concept for a tv series. "The Mannequin and the Pit Bull".

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: gnu
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 02:52 PM

I have been watching The Daily Show and The colbert Report on The Comedy Channel website just lately (just found out I could), back as far as early March, and, I gotta say, those guys are truly frightening. Especially Santorum. The guy can't even "talk" in a logical fashion. He makes as many errors as Bush did and Bush made them over NINE years.

Ron Paul doesn't frighten me but his age simply dictates it ain't gonna happen.

Can a Canuck be a US VP? If so, I have a suggestion.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 03:11 PM

Ron Paul is the scariest of all. His "solutions" are batshit crazy and would totally disrupt the world economy. He has said that health care for the poor could and should be carried out as charity from the existing doctors and hospitals. He thinks that the US government should be pared down to next to nothing. He thinks the US dollar should be put back on the Gold Standard. Which would devalue the dollar to next to zero after the Goldman Sachs & Chinese bond holders empty Fort Knox.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: gnu
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 03:25 PM

Holy crap! I didn't see any of that, JtS. BIG oops!

I just don't follow Yankee politics. But, what I saw on those comedy shows does scare me regarding the competence of the candidates.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 03:32 PM

The Mayans tried to warn us.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 03:38 PM

Since Agnew, Ford and Quayle were all on winning tickets, does it actually matter? Anyway, when the chips were down, it wasn't a VP who stepped up to the plate but Secretary of State Al Haig.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 06:25 PM

Running with Romney.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 07:46 PM

z-z-z-z-z....

Oh. Ummm...who will run with Romney?

Ask me if I even F-ing care! If I thought it mattered even one iota, then I might care. I think it matters less than about 800,000 other things that come easily to mind. It would be kind of cool, though, if they picked the dumbest and most ridiculous possible running mate of all for Romney, whoever that might be. It would at least lend some sick amusement factor to the pathetic media soap opera that we're all going to be enduring from now through next November in the old Alice-In-Wonderland/Wizard-of-Oz corporate-run election farce that is now standard stuff in Fortress Amerika.

I know one thing, Chongo sure won't run with him.

Whoever does get elected...watch out. They won't do what you hoped they would once they're in office. Not even close.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 08:41 PM

Charles Manson is up for parole...

Then Romney would have a good excuse when he loses...

B:~)

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 09:12 PM

I think that a joint Obama/Romney ticket would be appealing. I dunno about the VP, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 10:14 PM

Wouldn't it be funny interesting if no one was willing to be on the ticket with him...?

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Neil D
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 11:11 PM

I think he'd like to pick Paul Ryan but that will make it awfully easy for Obama to make the case that a vote for Romney-Ryan is a vote to finally, at long, last hand the keys to the kingdom to the oligarchs. A vote to crucify the old, the poor, the working class, students, most of the rest of us, on the cross of deep tax cuts for the wealthy.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: GUEST,marks (on the road)
Date: 09 Apr 12 - 11:32 PM

"He had better be damn careful and not make the mistake McCain made"

Hardly a mistake, Kendall. Dopy or not, Palin breathed some life into an otherwise moribund campaign, and the Obama victory margin was less than it would have been had McCain made a more conventional pick.

Like Palin or not, she sure as shootin woke the yokels.

Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 02:11 AM

"If I thought it mattered even one iota, then I might care. I think it matters less than about 800,000 other things that come easily to mind."

Little Hawk, if you were American (US style) you would recognize how wrong that statement is. No matter what doofusses have been elected as vice presidents, the fact is they could become President. So YES. It matters a great deal.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: GUEST,Kendall
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 04:42 PM

I was simply saying it was HIS mistake to pick Palin, or to approve of the RNC picking her.
It was lucky for us.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: scouse
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 05:20 PM

I hope it's Roger Bannister!!! 'Nough said!

As Aye,

Phil... Outta here

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Stringsinger
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 06:17 PM

Watch out! I predict Paul Ryan.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 06:33 PM

I 'think' Sarah Palin has a small sense of humor.... she said the other day he should pick Alan West!

Those who watched West in the last election find it hard to believe she was serious.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 08:47 PM

Whichever side of Romney's mouth that isn't talking at the moment should run with Romney. The Romney/Romney team would be able to take both sides of every issue and thereby appeal to everyone.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 08:56 PM

Hey, if he ain't going to pick Charles Manson then why not Sarah Palin???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 09:01 PM

BTW, if Romney calls me??? I ain't answerin' the phone...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 03:43 AM

I go with Stringsinger- I think it will be Paul Ryan.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 03:44 AM

Unless he decides Ryan wouldn't endear him to more moderate voters.

It must be SUCH a pain to have Romney's mind.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 12:07 PM

Lady Gaga would get votes.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: gnu
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 03:56 PM

Lady Gaga is too smart.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 04:05 PM

Got that right! ;-) She's way too smart for that job.

Romney would not survive a fall out of a 150 foot tree. Chongo HAS survived such a fall this very day, and he emerged without a hair out of place. Chongo can also down a 40 ounce bottle of whisky a day without blinking an eye, and Romney wouldn't get halfway through one before passing out. So why even consider voting for Romney? Or Obama for that matter.

We need a president who can drink Boris Yeltsin under the table, lie more convincingly than Bill Clinton, and arm wrestle Vladimir Putin to the ground in 2 seconds flat. Chongo can do all those things! Vote for Chongo in 2012.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: gnu
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 04:13 PM

"... drink Boris Yeltsin under the table, lie more convincingly than Bill Clinton, and arm wrestle Vladimir Putin to the ground in 2 seconds flat.

Yeah, right, good luck with all of those. Although, Clinton never lied.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 04:23 PM

Oh? What would you call it, then?

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 04:27 PM

I would like to see Olympia Snowe...retired soon I think...impressive woman...would bring a Greek-American perspective..although we have also seen Dukakis and Agnew and probably others...well, I think she is Greek American anyway..could be wrong. mg

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 04:32 PM

I concur. Uniting Greek and American efforts at managing national deficit financing would be a heady tonic for all of us to take in these annoying times. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 04:43 PM

Gnu, They all lie. Its just a matter of degree and topic.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Greg F.
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 05:36 PM

More importantly for the future of the nation, who will run AWAY FROM Romney?

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 06:46 PM

More words of wisdom from Chongo Chimp: "If Romney is runnin', it follows that he must be scared. Do we want someone who is scared to be our president? I don't think so! Vote for me. I won't run, I'll stand and fight like an ape!"

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 06:49 PM

Sigh...

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: GUEST,BigDaddy
Date: 12 Apr 12 - 11:22 AM

There are two reasons I give a crap about who Romney runs with: One is that I, in part, would like to see a ridiculous choice (like McCain made four years ago) to ensure he won't get elected. On the other hand, I would prefer his choice be a sane one, because as someone else pointed out, that person should actually be up to the job that they might have someday. I, like many others, have been underwhelmed by President Obama's first term. I agree with Bill Maher when he says Obama should have realized early on that there could be no compromise with the current crop of Republican'ts, and should have taken the opportunity to lead like a true Democrat, just as Dubya led (if you can call it that) like a true Republican. That said, President Obama has removed our troops from Iraq as promised. He is removing our troops from Afghanistan on schedule as promised. He has, along with our military, put an end to not only bin Laden, but several other important al Qaeda targets. We have experienced 23 consecutive months of slow, yet steady economic growth, in spite of the mess he inherited from Bush/Cheney. President Obama doesn't try to use his religious beliefs as an excuse to interfere with women's' rights. He is intelligent, compassionate, a devoted father and husband. Our domestic auto companies are back on track. President Obama believes every American should enjoy the same health coverage we provide to members of Congress. His detractors have to resort to racism and name-calling to try to defeat him. I've been around long enough to see apathy on the part of voters allow for some really scary characters to take office. So even if it means voting for the lesser of two less than ideal choices, vote anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Greg F.
Date: 12 Apr 12 - 11:49 AM

OK, underwhelmed, yes.

Then, with the Republican options, there's disgusted.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Apr 12 - 12:50 PM

Big Daddy - Has the enormous Green Zone in Iraq been dismantled? No. Have American military bases been removed from Iraq? No. Are you aware of the vast number of privately employed corporate mercenaries that America has fielded in Iraq and who are still there? The privatizing of America's military has been going forward aggressively ever since the Bush years, through the growth of privately owned corporate entities such as Blackwater and a host of others. They are rapidly supplanting American troops on the ground and are serving as de facto occupation forces.

Obama said he'd remove American troops from Iraq. He meant government troops. He never made a peep about removing the American mercenaries from Iraq, and there are a huge number of them there, and they are well-armed. It's an unofficial occupation force, accomplished by privatized corporate mercenaries.

Nothing is said about that. The removal of government soldiers is smoke and mirrors if they are replaced by privatized soldiers. It passes under the public radar, because it is seldom even spoken of, and it's happening everywhere that America goes in its quest to forge an empire and control strategic resources. The army, navy, and air force go in first. They are quickly followed by a vast array of corporate contractors who are put there to build military bases, to provide security, to police, to interrogate, to torture, and to murder anyone who opposes the American presence.

It doesn't just happen in Iraq. And it's all about money. You see, the government has to PAY those corporates a lot of money when they land a contract to begin "reconstruction" or to provide "security" or to privatize a national industry. Virtually all of Iraq's state industries have been privatized, replaced, by American corporates who are equivalent to carpetbaggers after the Civil War, and the Iraqis who worked in the state industries have lost their jobs and are living in poverty now.

You don't hear much about that. As I said, it goes under the public radar. It becomes the invisible occupation that is not recognized as such by American media, because all they do is talk about what the official Army, Navy, and Air Force are doing. They don't talk about what the privately owned corporate mercenaries are doing. It's as if they didn't even exist. Your public is fooled by this kind of charade, but the populations in the occupied lands are not fooled. They see the direct results of American corporate policy...and those results, for them, are utterly disastrous.

Iraq has been virtually destroyed as a nation. Most of its educated class has fled the country. Its cultural heritage was looted in the wake of the invasion. Its social infrastructure and state industries are mostly destroyed. Most of its workers (once employed by state industries) have lost their jobs. It is a society immeasurably worse off now than it was under Saddam Hussein, as bad as he was.

That's what Bush's and Obama's war did to Iraq.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Apr 12 - 02:46 PM

Sigh...

How many US "mercenaries" are there in Iraq? How many are not engaged in guarding embassy property and staff?

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Apr 12 - 02:50 PM

I would like to see the source of your information, Little Hawk. I'm not saying that not every word is true but sources do matter.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 12 Apr 12 - 04:29 PM

Romney needs to firm up the women's vote. He might do worse than picking South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley. She's bright, attractive, conservative and a card-carrying Republican. Of course he might look bad in comparison. And has anyone seen Nikki's birth certificate?

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Greg F.
Date: 12 Apr 12 - 06:21 PM

Lil' Hawk don't need no steenkin' information or facts- he just likes to spin his fantasies regardless. Another inhabitant of ther Fact Free Environment- like the TeaPublicans, Santorum, et. al.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Apr 12 - 06:59 PM

Santorum, no brainer.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Apr 12 - 07:52 PM

Dod spending is under the wire because of two factors:

1. The military/industrial complex is also the big media/industrial complex and therefore tha American people are being kept completely in the dark and...

2. The American political system punishes 1st term presidents by making them suck up to the Big Boys in that 1st term... Obama has played it perfectly...

Bottom line here is what scares the hell outta righties and Republicans... They have seen just how clever Obama has been at learning the job of president that they are now very much fearful that he will be re-elected and come out swinging in his 2nd term...

They don't want to take that chance and are poised to spend as much $$$ to see that that doesn't happen...

This is why it is imperative to re-elect Obama...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Apr 12 - 12:17 AM

For your source, folks, I recommend the book "The Shock Doctrine" written by Naomi Klein, a Canadian political analyst and writer. Focus on the later chapters regarding Bush's war in Iraq, and the aftermath, and what has been happening in the disastrous occupation and utter ruination of that country.

Here's a link to something that could get you started:

The Shock Doctrine

I'm surprised that you would have any objection to this stuff I'm mentioning, Greg. I thought it would be right up your alley. After all, you are always saying you hate capitalism, right? Have a look at the link and investigate. I highly recommend to anyone to read this book about what aggressive corporate capitalism has done in the world since the early 1960s. It's brilliant. It gets right to the point. And it's exhaustively researched and documented. The only way you'll ever find out about it is to read it. If you don't read it, then all you'll have is a kneejerk negative reaction to something I mentioned which you don't actually know about yet, and I can't see any rational basis for that...can you?

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Apr 12 - 12:41 AM

Here's Amazon's page on The Shock Doctrine.

Have a look, and read the comments and reviews.

Note, Greg, the comment from The Guardian in the UK.

The Shock Doctrine

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 13 Apr 12 - 02:06 AM

Excellent book.
Explains A LOT.
See also...Iraq for Sale...Why We Fight...Armed Madhouse...

Subject: RE: BS: Who will run with Romney?
From: GUEST,BigDaddy
Date: 15 Apr 12 - 02:56 AM

So, Little Hawk, what do you see as a realistic alternative come election time? Even if you subscribe to the "lesser of two evils" idea, do you not believe it's imperative that we not elect Romney? I don't believe you and I are that far apart ideologically. I do however believe that the Repubs are scarier than anything the democrats offer.