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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Richard Bridge Date: 04 Jun 12 - 04:15 AM I would welcome that. Rational discussion is impossible. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Bobert Date: 04 Jun 12 - 09:20 AM Wow... Virginia Republican Governor Bob McDonald has broken from the pack and admitted that the Stimulus did indeed save and create jobs in Virginia... What next??? Someone is going to notice that Romney isn't wearing any pants??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,999 Date: 04 Jun 12 - 10:57 AM Can't tell about the pants, Bobert. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Jun 12 - 11:15 AM Just more personal attacks, to avoid the facts, and entering a rational exchange....and then blame it on me..or anyone else who calls you on it!! So what's new? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,999 Date: 04 Jun 12 - 11:37 AM There is one ray of light. Occupy and the Tea Party both protested outside the Bilderberg meeting in Virginia. They even got along. I expect these folks are remnants of the Tea Party from before it was bought by Republican-leaning arseholes. . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Jun 12 - 12:04 PM 999, I suspect you are correct. Don Firth simply denies any credibility to the Bilderbergs, and accused me of being into 'conspiracy theories' when I brought them up before. You'd think, he, as a self adorned 'news director', would want to get in on COVERING a story, rather than COVERING UP a story!!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 01:18 PM Goofus, once again you are DO try to get it right! (Goofus get it right? What am I saying!??) Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Jun 12 - 01:26 PM Nice try. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 02:39 PM Goofus, before you go off half-cocked, you need spend less time squeezing your zits and do a bit more fact-checking. Fact-checking is a skill I learned during my stint as a broadcast journalist. ". . . they (the Bilderberg group) have at their disposal powerful transnational and national instruments for bringing about what it is they want to come to pass. That their consensus design is not always achieved is a reflection of the strength of competing resisting forces outside the capitalist ruling class and within it." [Emphasis mine--DF]Which is, in essence, what I said. Further: "According to chairman Étienne Davignon, a major attraction of Bilderberg group meetings is that they provide an opportunity for participants to speak and debate candidly and to find out what major figures really think, without the risk of off-the-cuff comments becoming fodder for controversy in the media.And, of course, our own beloved Goofus. The above gleaned from several articles on power groups and "conspiracy theories." Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Jun 12 - 02:52 PM Don Firth: "I did not deny anything about the various cabals and conspiracies like the Bilderbergs or the various others (who, incidentally, often work against each other). What I DID say was that there have always been such conspiracy groups and there probably always will be. But since they DO often compete with each other, they are not that important a factor. DO try to get it right! (Goofus get it right? What am I saying!??)" I already got it right. Why did you bring up conspiracies, in regards to my post on the Bilderbergs?. You were either unaware of them, OR tried misleading people through innuendo...which is subtle deception, but nonetheless deception..is it not? Bilderbergs and conspiracy theories are two completely different subjects..apples and sawhorses!..What are you trying to steer people away from??..The FACT that some of your phony ideologue heroes are in concert with the banksters?..Which happens to be, what I've been saying all along...or the FACT that a lot of social issues, which the 'so-called liberal' dupes, are nothing more than distractions, from what is what is REALLY going on, of which, your puppets have been working together with the very people you say you oppose??? If you were a 'news director' of any worth, you would have seen (or could see), that the depth of the TRUTH(remember that?), has far more depth, and far worth more, that propping up, and championing the fairy tale follies, which were meant to mislead and deceive people. Then you conscript people to slander anyone who refutes your imaginary spin!! So, for your enjoyment while turning your 'booll-shit' around here's a piece of musical advice, for you and your blues guy. Great advice..TAKE IT!! ...and for Bobert..a delightful theme song Wonderfully Yours!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Bobert Date: 04 Jun 12 - 02:57 PM Cha-cha-cha... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 03:01 PM Then why did you present them as the same thing? Unless you were deliberately trying to be deceptive? Even Fred Astaire couldn't tap dance that fast! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 03:05 PM "Unless you were deliberately trying to be deceptive?" Or didn't know any better until you read what I posted above! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Jun 12 - 03:06 PM More spin...don't you ever learn? You combined them! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Jun 12 - 03:09 PM Okay..you tell us...why when I mentioned the Bilderbergs, in ANY post, did you come back with 'conspiracy theories'. This should be interesting! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 03:37 PM I didn't. You presented them as conspiracy theories. I've been hearing about conspiracy theories since I was a kid. "The Rockefellers are trying to take over the world," "The Masons are trying to take over the world," "The Jews are trying to take over the world," "The Girl Scouts are trying to take over the world," "Left handed ukulele players are trying to take over the world," ad nauseum. I've long since learned to take other peoples' paranoia with a large grain of salt. Once again, you're indulging in flights of fantasy. Maybe you better just get back to your zits. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Jun 12 - 04:29 PM ...is that a fact???? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 05:01 PM Very amusing, but--that's all you've got? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 05:40 PM Clarification. The claim that the Bilderberg Group is masterminding everything is a "conspiracy theory." This is a paranoid delusion of a lot of people. But the Bilderberg Group, or the Masons, or the Jews, or the Girl Scouts don't control the world any more than the East Podunk Chamber of Commerce does. Making such claims are simple-minded attempts to find easy answers to difficult questions. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Jun 12 - 05:46 PM Funny you should say that..I was thinking the same about you! You'd think after approx. 500 posts regarding that, and the banksters, and corruption of both parties, with them being merely puppets of this group, that you would have come up with something..ummm...just a 'little' more realistic??? Come on, Don, you could be a monster with the truth, but you've elected to be a worm...WHY??? Some day, when you get over yourself, you might realize that, besides being an 'entertaining challenge to you' (your words), and being as you pride yourself as a 'news' guy, I've been the best friend you've had in decades! I have another friend, a disabled in the line of duty, cop, who is confined to a wheelchair for life. I visit him, and we play chess. He is one of the best chess players, of whom I've played, in my life...and at first he's whoop me a lot(not so much as of our last games, and I've provided him with some of the 'best games that he's played in his life'(his words). If you want to play chess(if you do), let's do that...but let's not play games with the truth, or the news. You could be a force..but you've settled for being a farce. P.S. As I've told you before.."I'm on YOUR side"....Stop making things up to validate a false agenda. Peace(?), GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 05:59 PM GoofuS, I have NEVER made the claim that the Bilderberg Group is controlling the banks or the the Democrats or the Republicans. That has been YOUR schtick all along. The truth is not in you. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 06:30 PM And don't try to cozy up to me. Sorry, but you've displayed the nature of your character often enough on these threads. That's all I need to know about you. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Bobert Date: 04 Jun 12 - 07:01 PM What??? GfinS invent stuff that the insane one wishes you'd said, then attack you for saying something you never said and then prance around like a peacock doing some kinda insane victory lap??? How could that be, Don??? Oh yeah, I almost forgot... GfinS is insane... Guess that explains it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Jun 12 - 07:01 PM Ah well, Don, many have underestimated the power of the East Podunk Chamber of Commerce to their everlasting regret! ;-D They're everywhere. Meanwhile, I see that thundering hyperbole, snide verbal shafts, devastating accusations of moral turpitude, and unrelenting, absolutely unforgiving and vitriolic personal hostility are still the desired weapons of choice here, eh? Ah...the halcyon days of calm, considered political discussion amongst open and receptive minds! So refreshing. Why, it's like a breath of fresh air. If only everyone was this nice to one another, what a wonderful world it would be! Yes! I got drawn in again. (sigh) But not for long! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 07:37 PM Not MY choice, Little Hawk. GoofuS chose the weapons you cataloged, so I suggest to talk to him. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Bobert Date: 04 Jun 12 - 07:47 PM I don't recall GfinS ever talking policy in these discussions... Parroting sound-bites which are readily out there in Tealand, sure... But Don, JohnP and I have gone to lengths to discuss policy... GfinS doesn't do "policy"... BTW, LH, this is not a personal attack on GfinS... It is an observation... Case in point... The Affordable Care Act... GfinS says that he will put forth an alternate proposal... Sandbags for weeks sayin' he's working on the details then... ... what we get is TeaNation's, "Repeal every word of it!" That's policy??? No better than GfinS's first policy proposal which was "Freedom"... Freedom as a health care policy??? Give me a break... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 08:14 PM 'Scuse me, Little Hawk. Typo. Should read: ". . . so I suggest you talk to him." Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Jun 12 - 10:42 PM Don: "That has been YOUR schtick all along." That's what I said..the rest of that post is just you falling all over yourself, contradicting yourself..and..well, all about yourself..Oh, and BTW, I'm right..not only are they trying to control the banks, but governments, as well. They certainly control both parties..or are trying to. May I suggest doing some homework...and try this..go for the truth, and work your political stance around the truth, instead of making up truth-S to fit your political stance. You might start being rational....then! Here, let's give this a look-see, Romney wants Rand Paul to run with him, to lure the voters who support him..BUT Paul is hesitant, because Romney is corrupt...so, watch Romney go for Mitch McConnell. I called the Rick Perry entrance into the primaries a week before he announced, or was even being talked about....was right about that one....feelin' lucky, are ya'?? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 12 - 10:42 PM Bobert, your description of what Goofus has been up to, "What??? GfinS invent stuff that the insane one wishes you'd said, then attack you for saying something you never said and then prance around like a peacock doing some kinda insane victory lap???"is both spot on and bloody brilliant!! Goofus's little caper reminds me of a word I learned some years ago. I had a very good friend (Gone now. Passed away a few years ago) who was of the Jewish persuasion. From him, I learned a whole repertoire of Jewish jokes. He taught them to me, and at parties would often ask me to tell one of them because I'm pretty good with accents and dialects and, oddly enough perhaps, he couldn't do a Jewish accent worth a damn. Anyway, among other things, I learned a number of wonderful Yiddish words from him. One of them was "chutzpah," (pronounced pretty much as it looks, except the "ch" at the beginning is pronounced like you're clearing your throat: like the "ch" in "Johann Sebastian Bach"). Roughly, it means "gall" or "nerve," but of such monumental proportions that when people observe an example of it, they can't believe it because it's so extreme it defies all sense of decency and reasonable behavior. My friend said that it can only be defined by example. Ex. 1. A family of nine come into an expensive, plush restaurant just as rush hour is starting and commandeers a large table in the middle of the dining room. A waiter goes up, puts a glass of water in front of each member of the party, and starts to hand them menus. One older man, who appears to be the head of the family stops him, saying, "We won't need menus. Just the water. We've brought our own food." He then pulls out a picnic hamper and starts distributing the food therein. The waiter, not believe the sheer gall of these people, reports the matter to the head waiter. The head waiter storms up to the table, prepared to order them out of the restaurant, when the head of the family looks at him angrily and shouts, "Waiter! Why is there no music!??" Ex. 2. A wild, psychopathic teen-ager murders his parents by setting fire to the house and burning them to death. He then throws himself on the mercy of the court on the grounds that he is a homeless orphan. I dunno. I think GoofuS ought to receive an Olympic medal for mental gymnastics (free-style), or perhaps a Pee-you-litzer Prize for sheer—well—chutzpah. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Jun 12 - 11:57 PM Don: "...who was of the Jewish persuasion." Persuasion???? I'm surprised Bobert didn't jump all over you for being racist. Judging from your frantic posts, methinks you are losing it! ..and by the way, 'insane' is only a legal term, not a medical one...BUT 'insane' is usually to indicate if someone is detached from reality, right?.....but what if a person sees reality, before it arrives?...and 'other' people either can't see it, or understand it? what would you call that?....and the 'other' people as well? oh well, you can go back to calling names now....and BTW(again), does it make you feel good? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 05 Jun 12 - 12:06 AM MY FRIEND of whom I spoke described HIMSELF as "being of the Jewish persuasion." What is "racist" about that? You're groping, desparate to make points, man. You're LOOSING it!! Why don't you have yourself a good night's sleep. You're getting punchy. Don Firth (Nighty night.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 05 Jun 12 - 12:35 AM Being Jewish is not a 'persuasion'. Go back to sleep. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: Don Firth Date: 05 Jun 12 - 12:58 AM Well, it's not really genetic is it? It might be the religion of one's forefathers, as it was in my friend's case. He was Hungarian by nationality, but that doesn't dictate one's choice of faith. Since when does embracing the Jewish faith determine one's race? Except, of course, under Hitler. Or with the KKK. Or various other white supremacist groups, who can't accept the fact that most Jews are members of the "white" race. This is not the first thing you've been confused about, as to whether it's genetic or a matter of choice. You're screwed up. Examine your own principles, Goofus. Don Firth. (z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Battles 'Uncommitted' in Primary From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 05 Jun 12 - 01:34 AM Actually, it's a bloodline. GfS |