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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: GUEST,Stim Date: 02 Jul 12 - 10:47 PM Probably ought to SPOILER ALERT this- Here's the scene after the visit to Pop Leibel: EXT. STREET OUTSIDE MIDGE'S APARTMENT - (EARLY EVENING) - LONG SHOT Scottie's car draws up and comes to a s:top. INT. SCOTTIE'S CAR - (EARLY EVENING) - MEDIUM TWO SHOT Scottie and Midge are looking straight ahead. SCOTTIE Here you are. MIDGE You haven't told me everything. SCOTTIE I've told you enough. MIDGE Who's the guy, who's the wife? SCOTTIE Out. I've got things to do. MIDGE I know. The one who phoned. Your old college chum, Elster. SCOTTIE Out! MIDGE And the idea is that the Beautiful Mad Carlotta has come back from the dead, to take possession of Elster's wife? Ah, Johnny! Come on! SCOTTIE (Angrily) I'm not telling you what I think! I'm telling you what he thinks! MIDGE Think? Well, what do you think? Scottie is troubled, lost in thought. Pause. MIDGE Is she pretty? SCOTTIE Carlotta? MIDGE (Evenly) No, not Carlotta. Elster's wife. SCOTTIE Mmm, yeah, I guess... Midge looks up at him from the corners of her eyes. MIDGE (Wickedly) I think I'll go take a look at that portrait. (With a bright smile) Bye! She opens the car door quickly and jumps out. * * * So Midge went to see the painting, and that's why she was able to recreate it, with herself as Carlotta. Wonder what happened to that painting? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: MGM·Lion Date: 02 Jul 12 - 11:28 PM Ah; at last. Someone who sees what I mean & can explain it. Many thanks! ~M~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: Lonesome EJ Date: 03 Jul 12 - 12:14 AM Strangers on a Train. Robert Walker's portrayal of the boyish psychopath with a debt to settle is chilling. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: MGM·Lion Date: 03 Jul 12 - 01:26 AM Agreed re Robert Walker. & Farley Granger pretty good at the injured innocence caught up in horror-situation not of his own making. I am still bugged, tho, as to why he didn't just throw that tennis match by having a pretend off-day to get away quickly from the courts to save his life, rather than lose so much vital time by insisting on playing it thru to a win! ~M~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: GUEST,Stim Date: 03 Jul 12 - 02:55 AM You or I might have done what we needed to to get away, but Guy Haines' weakness was that he allows himself to be drawn into risky situations; even though Bruno made him uncomfortable, he was drawn into a conversation with him, and then back to his drawing room, and even though he knew meeting Miriam at the record store where she worked could go badly, he allowed her to draw him into the listening room, where she goaded him into attacking her in front of witnesses...and it went on from there.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: MGM·Lion Date: 03 Jul 12 - 04:38 AM Yes: thanks Stim. I suppose it is psychologically consistent and convincing at that. ~M~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: MikeL2 Date: 03 Jul 12 - 05:57 AM Hi Not only did Hitchcock cast himself in most ( if not all ?) of his films his daughter Patricia was in at least 3 that I can recall. She was in Strangers on a Train, and Psycho as Janet Leigh's colleague, and I believe she was in Stage Fright which was much earlier. Cheers MikeL2 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: Joe Offer Date: 09 Jul 14 - 04:35 AM I came across this article (click) today in the Jesuit America Magazine. An excerpt:
Raised in a strict Catholic household, Hitchcock (1899-1980) attended St. Ignatius, a Jesuit high school in England. A lifelong practicing Catholic, he once said in an interview with Peter Bogdanovich that the Jesuits taught him "organization, control, and to some degree analysis." Catholic education gave Hitchcock a great fear of authority figures like policemen, a fear that he playfully evoked in many of his films. Some biographies have claimed that he fell away from the faith at the end of his life. But Father Mark Henninger, S.J., confirmed in a 2012 Wall Street Journal article that Hitchcock was regularly receiving communion and confession in his last days. Father Henninger, one of the Jesuit priests who personally administered the sacraments to Hitchcock, also noted that the great director received a Catholic funeral and burial from Blessed Sacrament Church in Hollywood. Hitchcock's movies deal with recurring moral themes that resonate deeply with the Catholic psyche and imagination: innocent men wrongly accused of crimes, icy blonde femme fatales and seemingly upright people with tragic secrets or hidden flaws. As a Catholic familiar with sin, Hitchcock was uniquely aware of the difference between our public image and our personal dysfunctions, depicting this dichotomy in a way that shocked many filmmakers accustomed to Puritanically simplified "good versus evil" plots from the days of the Hays Code. Nevertheless, many film professors and critics have judged Hitchcock to be the greatest director of all time. Although I have never enjoyed horror movies myself, I enjoy Hitchcock. While horror films depress me, Hitchcock amuses and enlightens and sometimes moves me. He treats unspeakable things with tact, humor and style in a way that is much imitated by modern filmmakers without being fully recaptured... ...If Catholicism sometimes produces neuroses in people like Hitchcock, it also inspires great art. Without the Catholic Church to embrace or kick against, I suspect our collective imagination would not be the same, and we might be likelier to minimize the darker corners of our lives in favor of self-deluding success narratives. Without the church, there might be precious little to remind us that God ultimately controls our destinies—not us. Gee, maybe that's why I like Hitchcock movies. He portrays the messy reality of life, not a sanitized version where only perfect people are acceptable. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: Big Al Whittle Date: 09 Jul 14 - 07:21 AM John Ford was Irish - maybe he was Catholic too. I must say, I can't see Uncle Charlie the merry widow strangler, or Norman Bates getting past the pearly gates. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: LadyJean Date: 10 Jul 14 - 12:29 AM "Strangers on a Train" was my first Hitchcock, and got me hooked for life. He was, apparently a real SOB, who was hard on the women who worked for him. This having been said, "The Lady Vanishes" which features two strong women, is one of my favorites. I also love "Rear Window". I dreamed one night that I was the heroine of a Hitchcock film. I had all kinds of thrilling escapes and exciting chases, but I knew I would be okay, because it was a Hitchcock movie and I was the heroine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Jul 14 - 12:44 PM As long as it wasn't Vertigo. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 10 Jul 14 - 01:47 PM Or Pyscho! But, then I've never seen Janet Leigh as the heroine of that film. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Jul 14 - 04:51 PM I had the same thought - Novak is a love interest but not a heroine, but the point being that they're headliners and neither of them fares well. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: LadyJean Date: 11 Jul 14 - 12:37 AM It was more in the mode of "The 39 Steps" I knew I would get away. Let me reccomend "The Trouble With Harry", a lovely movie short on suspense, but entertaining. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Jul 14 - 12:12 PM The Trouble With Harry is a dark comedy, and is unique in Hitchcock's oeuvre. The color is also almost surreal (a film that came later that has some of these characteristics is Blue Velvet). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: Thomas Stern Date: 27 Aug 15 - 10:20 AM Interesting thread - I enjoy Hitchcock films, including many of the early British films. YOUNG & INNOCENT is well worth seeing - many themes and images used in later films and a breathtaking tracking shot at finale. A very NON-Hitchcockian film THE FARMERS WIFE is slyly amusing. Hitch's take on Jack the Ripper, starring Ivor Novello is available in a restored print from BFI. Almost everything Hitch directed is available on DVD - though there is one "lost" film THE MOUNTAIN EAGLE(silent, 1927) his 2nd directorial effort, and several very early silent films missing on which Hitch co-directed/scripted/designed... A recent book may be of interest to Hitchcock obsessives: Hitchcock Lost and Found: The Forgotten Films by Alain Kerzoncuf University Press of Kentucky, 2015. What actually prompted me to post to this thread is the release on DVD of THE HITCHCOCK HOUR TV programmes. 3 seasons in 3 box sets from MADMAN in Australia (WHY aren't they available in the US and ENGLAND ???) They are R4, so you need a region free player to play the discs. The HITCHCOCK PRESENTS series IS available worldwide, and is better known. I first encountered the HITCHCOCK HOUR series in a group of 3 VHS tapes with selected programmes released in the UK many years ago. One of the episodes on those tapes was set in a nightclub and has a marvelous performance by BARBARA DANE - knocked my sock off! Also from Australia, a 3-DVD box ALFRED HITCHCOCK DIRECTS THE TV COLLECTION. This includes only the TV episodes actually DIRECTED by Hitchcock from the Hitchcock Presents (17 episodes), Hitchcock Hour (1 episode), and FORD STARTIME (1 episode). Cheers, Thomas. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: Mrrzy Date: 28 Aug 15 - 09:58 AM I can't believe nobody has recommended Foreign Correspondent! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: olddude Date: 28 Aug 15 - 10:42 AM North by northwest |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: Thomas Stern Date: 29 Aug 15 - 02:32 PM Hi Mrrzy, FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT is one of my favorites. Now video - it was UN-available for quite a while which may account for it being less well known than the late British productions, and the American films. A Walter Wanger Production, ownership and distribution rights were in question for a while. IIRC a VHS tape from a small company was available, but A good print was released on DVD by Warner some years back. Last year CRITERION released a remastered version on DVD and BLU-RAY with some interesting extras. Best wishes, Thomas. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: GUEST,Stim Date: 29 Aug 15 - 05:40 PM It's one of my favorites, too, Mrrzy-Joel McCrea is the best, as is the cheerfully homicidal Edmund Gwenn. Herbert Marshall is the seemingly noble but secretly evil father figure, which is a recurring Hitchcock theme. Just looked it up and found that it had an unusually large number of (famous) writers including Robert Benchley, Charles Bennett, Harold Clurman, Joan Harrison, Ben Hecht, James Hilton, John Howard Lawson, John Lee Mahin, Richard Maibaum, and Budd Schulberg--maybe that's why it's so good... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: Thomas Stern Date: 01 Sep 15 - 09:54 PM TORN CURTAIN is mentioned briefly above. Anyone else seen it ??? I think it is an exciting suspense story, but I have problems with the morality. If you reverse the nationality of the characters, would you accept or condemn the actions of the Paul Newman character?? There is a brutal murder (at the farm) which is extremely disturbing. On the positive side, the scenes with LILA KEDROVA I found to be very moving. Her character had much of the same characteristic of the role she played in ZORBA THE GREEK. I'd enjoy hearing others reactions, whether in accord or contrary to mine. Best wishes, Thomas. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Essential Hitchcock Films From: Thomas Stern Date: 11 Sep 15 - 08:19 PM refresh |
