BS: A word that means more than stupid

Subject: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bert
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 03:32 AM

I know I said this before on the Delta Airlines thread, but we need a word that means more than stupid.

This time I am talking about shopping carts. Now shopping carts are a great invention, they allow us to pile up a load more purchases than we can carry. I know I do it all the time; I wheel the cart out to my car and unload it. Some times I even get my wife to load another cart so that we can carry twice as much.

Today I went into the local Thrift Store, The Arc in Colorado Springs.

And they just qualified for the more than stupid award. They have attached long arms to the sides of their carts so that customers can't take them out of the doors. By this action they have completely destroyed the whole usefulness of the shopping cart.

Now I can't load the cart with more than I can carry because if I do, then I can't get my purchases to my car.

As I said, we need a word that means more than stupid.

So, you idiots who are in charge of The Arc in Colorado Springs, if you don't trust me with your shopping cart in your parking lot, then why the hell should I visit your store again?

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 03:39 AM

They do the same thing at my thrift store.
They don't want to have to go get them from the parking lot.
I can't blame them. I wouldn't want to do it.
I don't know what to tell you.
Bring your own cart?
=(:-( ))

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bert
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 04:00 AM

Yes Henry, but it destroys, the whole purpose of the shopping cart which is to get people to buy more than they can carry.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Raedwulf
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 04:03 AM

Imbecilic? Stupidstupidstupid? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bert
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 04:05 AM

Yes Raedwulf.

Now folks, how about your own examples of the need for this word.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 07:11 AM

But don't you have the coin system over there? Here in UK we put a £1 coin in the trolley-slot which releases it from the one in front. You trundle around, pay, take it out to your car, then return it to a little shelter thing, where a key on a chain can release your pound. No-one leaves their trolley lying around outside 'cos they want their pound back. Sorted!

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 07:43 AM

I was going to say, "Don't get me started on shopping carts!" but you already have, so it's your own fault!

Things I hate about shopping carts:

1) They're required to have safety belts for children who ride in the little fold-out upper basket thingies. That's good from the standpoint of children versus concussions, but the belts and their snaps get all tangled up with other carts when they're nested together. Before you can pull your shopping cart from the stockpile, you usually have to disentangle it from its neighbor.

2) Most modern stores use some sort of rough surface material (cobbles, flagstones, corrugated stiff carpeting) in the area where empty shopping carts are kept. This is done so that you can't quickly evaluate the cart's performance. You don't know if it has a wheel with a flat spot or if it pulls to one side or the other until you've negotiated the roughly floored area and rolled onto the smooth main floor. By then, you're fifty feet from the cart storage area and, if you've drawn a bum cart, you have to decide whether to turn around and swap it out or to just live with it.

3) It's not the shopping carts' fault, but most of the people who operate them are idiots. The idea that an unattended shopping cart in the middle of an aisle might somehow obstruct other people's ability to traverse said aisle seems to be beyond the cart operators' conceptual skills. And when two morons who haven't seen each other in ages happen to meet in a grocery store aisle and decide to have a mini-family/high school reunion on the spot, just forget about doing any shopping on that aisle. Go on to the next one and come back after the two morons, their two shopping carts, and accompanying six children have finished their gabfest and moved on elsewhere.

BTW, there is a high-tech solution to the carts-leaving-premises problem Bert's thrift store decided to solve by making it impossible to push the carts through the doorway. Some stores' carts are equipped with electronically activated brakes which immobilize carts taken beyond certain perimeter points. Probably not something a thrift store could afford at this time but, hey, that kinda stuff gets cheaper every day.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Janie
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 07:50 AM

At the local Aldi's you have to pay a deposit for the cart which you get back once you return the cart to the store after off-loading into your vehicle.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: gnomad
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 08:02 AM

How big are your thrift stores? I believe our local equivalent is charity shops, but I have never seen one of those big enough to need trolleys, in fact in most the layout would render trolleys useless.

The arm attached to the trolley must be a blasted nuisance just making your way around the store, never mind getting outside. I quite agree that any trolley you cannot take to the car park is of very limited use.

Don't know what to suggest as a solution. Maybe if a your stores took up the coin idea (which does work widely in the UK and the rest of Europe) they could persuade those in the States that a $1 coin has its uses after all.

As for a word, well FARK.com use a 'Florida' tag for some pretty dumb stories, but I don't think that is your state, and I couldn't see you embracing the tag even if it were appropriate;)

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 09:46 AM

tory.....?

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 10:17 AM

How big are your thrift stores?

The ones operated by local charities tend to be fairly small, but some of the stores operated by national organizations like Goodwill Industries and The Salvation Army are of supermarket size.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 10:23 AM

Oh I don't know, supermarket shopping can get a bit boring. What's nicer than a good old chinwag with a mate? Here in Norfolk you can get talking to a perfect stranger in the aisle, and other folk join in as they pass. It's great. I met a man who told me he was 96. Dear old boy, we had a lovely chat. If someone's trolley is in the way, just push it gently to one side with a smile. You may even start another conversation!

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 10:44 AM

"A word that means more than stupid"

Think politicians to answer this one.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 10:46 AM

Guest999, they are actually the very clever ones. They say one thing, mean another and do whatever they like. Pretty intelligent IMO!

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Mr Happy
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 10:49 AM

There was a series of American films called something 'Dumb...' means stupid in American language & extended the term to include 'Dumber & Dumberest'!

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: gnomad
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 10:54 AM

Supermarket-sized thrift stores eh? Well I knew everything state-side had a reputation of being bigger and better, but I still never expected that.

BTW, it occurs to me that the term insane is largely being dropped from use in relation to people, would that cover the trolley situation?

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 10:58 AM

"Guest999, they are actually the very clever ones. They say one thing, mean another and do whatever they like. Pretty intelligent IMO!"

LOL, ya got me there, gal.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 10:58 AM

Projecting rods on trolleys would qualify for the word 'bonkers' or even 'batty'. I like 'Madder then Mick McMadd' too.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 11:05 AM

I went shopping 2 days ago.... yep, aisle blocked by two women chatting.

The local grocery stores I go to have decided that 'some' lost or damaged carts are preferable to expensive locking systems.... and 'most' people return the carts to outside storage spots scattered about the parking lots. Very few carts are taken off the lots, as it is just too far for most to walk home. I do see carts in large shopping centers abandoned WAY at the other end from their home store... I suppose those employees who work till closing have to collect them.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Midchuck
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 11:08 AM

3) It's not the shopping carts' fault, but most of the people who operate them are idiots. The idea that an unattended shopping cart in the middle of an aisle might somehow obstruct other people's ability to traverse said aisle seems to be beyond the cart operators' conceptual skills. And when two morons who haven't seen each other in ages happen to meet in a grocery store aisle and decide to have a mini-family/high school reunion on the spot, just forget about doing any shopping on that aisle. Go on to the next one and come back after the two morons, their two shopping carts, and accompanying six children have finished their gabfest and moved on elsewhere.

Agreed. Agree with BWL's whole post, for that matter.

BUT HE FORGOT TO MENTION THE GODDAM STUPID &%$&()S PARKED IN THE AISLE TO BLATHER ON THEIR LOATHSOME CELL PHONES WITH SOMEONE AT HOME ABOUT WHETHER THEY SHOULD BUY THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAY LUCIFER OPEN A NEW, DEEPER, PIT IN HELL FOR THEM AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SELL THE GODDAM PHONES!!!!!!!!!!!!

(There. I said it.) (pant, pant, puff, gasp...)

P.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 11:44 AM

Serious Christmas shopping

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 11:45 AM

Could be worse, Peter. They could do their blathering with their phones on "speaker" and the volume set at "MAX" so they can be heard three aisles away. Been there, heard that.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 11:49 AM

"BUT HE FORGOT TO MENTION THE GODDAM STUPID &%$&()S PARKED IN THE AISLE TO BLATHER ON THEIR LOATHSOME CELL PHONES WITH SOMEONE AT HOME ABOUT WHETHER THEY SHOULD BUY THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAY LUCIFER OPEN A NEW, DEEPER, PIT IN HELL FOR THEM AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SELL THE GODDAM PHONES!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Say what you really feel, Midchuck. Don't hold back!

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 12:29 PM

LOL, Trolley Rage!

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 12:29 PM

Once I went to my local supermarket when it was very busy and there were NO shopping carts in the vestibule, where carts are normally stored. Instead, there were several customers standing around waiting for a store employee to round up more carts from the parking lot and bring them into the store.

I thought, "fuck this" and I went out into the parking lot, grabbed the nearest cart, and pushed it into the store. I passed by those same customers who were still waiting (and looking mighty dumb, if you ask me).

Then it occurred to me: Why don't we always do this? I have to walk from my car into the store anyway, and it takes practically no more effort to push a cart while I walk than to walk without one. So now, when I park my car, if I happen to see a stray cart nearby, one that some lazy customer has neglected to park in the "cart corral," I will push it into the store. That way, I always have a cart. Plus, I have saved a store employee a bit of trouble. Plus, I have cleared a parking space for some other driver. Plus, I have gotten a little bit more exercise, which I need anyway.

If everybody did this all the time, the store wouldn't have to pay an employee to round up carts in the parking lot, and it would be able to sell food a little bit cheaper. And stores like the Arc wouldn't need to worry about people pushing carts into the parking lot and leaving them there.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 12:42 PM

": Why don't we always do this?"

I do... almost always

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 01:29 PM

Bert, you gotta ask yerself, "What would Jesse James have done in this situation?"

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 01:42 PM

Jesse James wouldn't be pushing a shopping cart through a thrift store. He'd have ridden his horse in and stuffed his purchases in his saddlebags. Then, as he was leaving, he'd stop at the checkout counter and toss a $100 gold piece he'd obtained in a recent train robbery to the clerk and say, "I'm sure this will more than cover my purchases. Keep the change."

Jesse James don't need no steenking shopping carts.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 01:56 PM

The managers have to estimate the expected profit against expenses and expected loss. They may be wrong with their estimate, or erroneously neglect some factors (which may qualify as stupid), or neglect their duty altogether, but I do not think any non-insider can tell for sure.

Homeless people love those carts, and the managers' sense of charity tends to have limits.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Raedwulf
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 02:53 PM

Well, Bee, either of that or he'd have ridden straight out, shooting the checkout clerk on the way... You're wrong about 2) as well. If the trolley corrals have rough flooring (they don't necessarily in the UK, thought the entrance of them likely will), it's so that the store doesn't have to worry about slope i.e. it's primarily to stop carelessly parked trolleys following gravity & rolling wheresoever they will. Maybe not. It's certainly not what you suggested, anyway! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 02:55 PM

Ever try to negotiate a grocery store in a wheelchair?

In one aspect, shopping carts are not a problem because I'm my own shopping cart.

But from my own observations, a large part of the problem is that, after the store has provided shopping carts for peoples' convenience, most people are too damned lazy to take the cart back into the store for someone else to use. They pile the stuff in their cars and leave the shopping cart sitting there in the parking lot for other people to steer around or back over.

Some stores put the shopping cart frame outside in the parking lot near the door, but people still can't be bothered to return the cart to the frame.

As far as seat belts for children on the carts, IF the person returns the cart to its rightful place, THEY could take a few seconds to make sure the belts don't get tangled with the other carts.

Contemplate for a moment how much of a hassle shopping carts are for a store.

Many customers are not exactly the shiniest dimes in the till.

Case in point:    I'm in my electric wheelchair (capable of 6.5 mph, which is a fair jogging speed) moving down the aisle of a supermarket, heading toward a particular section of the store at a pretty fair walking speed when some gink behind me decides I'm not moving fast enough for him. So he tries to shove past me. But there isn't quite room for a passing lane in the aisle.

I wasn't aware he was there until one of my power wheels ran over his foot!

He did quite a little dance, holding the foot with the tire mark across the instep in two hands while he hopped up and down on his other foot and howled!

I was tempted to applaud.

I sometimes think that people of normal intelligence tend to check their brains at the door of supermarkets. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bert
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 03:47 PM

Jim Dixon, by doing that you are also giving yourself a chance to try out the cart before you get to the store. If it has a wonky wheel then you can trade it in for a good one inside the store.

Grishka, re the profit and loss thing. A thrift store gets all of its product for free, so they don't have as much to lose as the grocery stores.

Chongo, Jesse James would have broken the arm off and galloped away in the shopping cart.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 05:43 PM

So don't stores in the States have coin-in the slot trolleys? I'd always assumed that was a idea imported from America.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 05:53 PM

Very few do. Very very few.
I noticed no one mentioned the dirty diapers people leave in them.
Or the fact that babies with dirty diapers have been riding in the little seat made just for babies with dirty diapers.
=(:-( P)

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 06:42 PM

That is what I am sayin', Bert. Take action. "Actions speak louder than words." It was Richard the Lionheart that said that. (I don't know if he was the first to say it, but he did say it.)

Bust that damn arm right off the shoppin' cart and wheel yer groceries out into the parkin' lot like Jesse James and Richard the Lionheart would do. They was both men of action, see?

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST, Chongo Chimp
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 06:45 PM

By the way, I think I got the word you wanted.

Asinine!!!   (works best with several ! symbols after it)

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: gnu
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 06:46 PM

Don Firth... "I sometimes think that people of normal intelligence tend to check their brains at the door of supermarkets"

Nope. Simple fact is (and *I* have complained about such MANY times on threads in Mudcat for years about this crap) it is a pet peeve of GREAT contention for me. These comlpete twits had no brain when they decided to go to the grocery store. It seems few people have any good manners any more. I TOO often ask myself, "Do these idiots drive cars on the roadways too!!?"

Even more burdensome is when they block the entire aisle (one person -one cart!) and then say sorry when they walk in front of my 86 year old almost blind mother at the last second. I sometimes hang back, as she is hard of hearing and say, "No. yer NOT sorry. Yer ignorant and rude. Don't be sorry, just don't treat other people rudely. Have a nice day."

The odd time, they say something like, "Well! Excuse me!" I think you can guess what I reply in such circumstances.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 06:51 PM

In my younger days, I spent a few years working in the grocery business. Since I also drove an old pickup truck, I was frequently drafted to help the store manager retrieve shopping carts that neighborhood pedestrian shoppers had taken home and not returned. I think "stolen" is the operative term. Most of the offenders would apologize for not returning the cart, but occasionally one or two would get all hot and bothered because we were taking "their" carts. Then we got to explain to them that not only did the cart belong to the store, but it's replacement cost was $125 (probably more like $400 nowadays) which meant they had committed grand larceny by even having it on their property. Then we'd politely ask if they'd rather we take it now or come back later with a sheriff's deputy? I seem to remember the most common reply being something along the lines of "Take the (insert expletive of your choice) thing and get off my (insert another expletive of your choice) property!"

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 06:52 PM

I'm guessin' that you say, "There IS no excuse for you." Be careful about these little confrontations if yer shoppin' in groceries in the USA, though, cos ya never know...that person who cut yer aged mother off may be packin' some heat and they might decide yer a threat of some kind.

- Chongo Chimp

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 07:14 PM

Them people, Bee-Dub, just can't believe that the world ain't arranged ONLY to suit their own exclusive convenience...cos they are Number 1 in the world as they see it. Life as they know it revolves around THEM. They wonder why you are botherin' them...why are you botherin' NUMERO UNO and causin' such an unfair inconvenience, but they would not mind a bit if it was someone else you were recoverin' the cart from. In fact, they'd probably think it was funny in that case...specially if it was their neighbour ("the idiot next door").

That kinda attitude is quite common. I think it's got somethin' to do with a little thing called "the human ego".

And...I've noticed dogs act pretty much the same way. Damn good thing they don't carry guns. They're trouble enough as it is.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Bert
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 09:17 PM

Asinine!!! yes that will do it. Thanks Chongo.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 17 Dec 12 - 12:07 AM

The only supermarkets I know of in the US that use the coin method for returning carts is the Aldi chain, which, I believe, is a German company.

Aldi offers rock-bottom prices and they have several methods of keeping expenses low:

1. You generally don't get a choice of brands of anything. For each item, there is usually only one brand, which might be the store brand or a brand you never see advertised.

2. All their fresh produce is packaged. You don't get to sort through a pile of fruit and pick the best-looking pieces. You can only take a bag, and some of the pieces in the bag will be less than perfect. That means the skin may be discolored or scarred or lumpy but the edible part is wholesome.

3. They don't give you free bags. You either bring your own bags or buy theirs. The bags they offer for sale are sturdy and reusable. They don't bag your stuff for you, either.

4. They tend to be located in the poorer, low-rent sections of town, adjoining a strip mall that has seen better days.

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 17 Dec 12 - 12:17 AM

I wish there was one near me.
I don't have a good selection of stores anymore.
Walmart keeps putting them out of business.
=(:-( ))

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Dec 12 - 01:12 AM

Eliza: "Guest999, they are actually the very clever ones. They say one thing, mean another and do whatever they like. Pretty intelligent.."

Not exactly....clever and stupid can work well together!
Politicians are very clever at doing stupid things!

Some political ideologues on here, also are very cleverly eloquent and saying stupid things as well......(that's what happens when you pay too much serious attentions to the clever deceptions of politicians, doing very stupid things!!!!!!!!

Example:
2012 elections..Obama vs. Romney..both huge bullshitters!...but that was fitting for the bullshit elections, with no real choice!!..STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 12:26 AM

My new CD Dictionary (that incidentally hasn't impressed me much) does suggest that if you can't find a better word, you can at least choose from a variety:

stupid
modif.
1. [Foolish]
Syn. senseless, brainless, idiotic, simple, ignorant, shallow, ill-advised, imprudent, witless, irrational, inane, ridiculous, mindless, ludicrous, blind, muddled, absurd, half-witted, funny, comical, silly, laughable, nonsensical, daft, illogical, indiscreet, unintelligent, irresponsible, coquettish, shallow-brained, scatterbrained, crackbrained, addled, inconsistent, flirting, unwary, incautious, misguided, wild, injudicious, imbecile, addleheaded, lunatic, insane, mad, crazy, moronic, touched, freakish, comic, puerile, inexpedient, narrow-minded, incoherent, childish, anile, senile, monstrous, outrageous, far-fetched, extravagant, preposterous, unreasonable, chimerical, asinine, useless, unwise, thoughtless, careless, vain, fatuous, light, light-headed, flighty, madcap, giddy, cuckoo*, dippy*, not seeking for looking*, boneheaded*, goofy*, cracked*, dumb*, half-baked*, in the dark*, having a block for a head*, not knowing what's what*, in darkness*, dead to the world*, in a daze*, knowing nothing*, groping in the dark*, green*, wacky*, harebrained*, tetched*, damn-fool*, block-headed*, not seeing an inch beyond one's nose*, screwy*, bats*, cock-eyed*, loony*, batty*, nutty*.

Not sure the choices add much to suggestions already given here.

John

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 01:35 AM

You could always try a few qualifying adverbs-of-extent ~~

very stupid; exceptionally stupid; superexceptionally stupid; world-shatteringly stupid; transcendentally stupid; stupid-to-the-nth-degree; stupid-to-the-nth-degree-and-beyond; stupid-to-∞ ...

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 05:35 AM

can't believe assinine hasn't been mentioned. Cretinous/Cretin?

I would posit hircine because if they are that stupid they would assume it meant hairsuit - it means: like a goat.
Though come to think of it, maybe not so clever, because GOAT can also mean Greatest Of All Time - an appellation given to Valentino Rossi - with good reason. (by the American motorcycling racer Colin Edwards)

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 06:46 AM

You amaze me Henry. I have never ever found a dirty nappy in a supermarket trolley. Has anyone else on here? I sometimes find shopping lists, which I'm nosey enough to read. (I like to know what people have been buying!)

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 07:01 AM

I think 'asinine' has been mentioned already, Mr Red ~~ by none other than the egregious Chongo IIRC!

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: A word that means more than stupid
From: Midchuck
Date: 18 Dec 12 - 11:28 AM

Dummer'nasackfullahammers.

P