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Subject: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bert Date: 26 Feb 13 - 07:37 PM Why didn't our local paper carry this news? Bud accused of watering down their beer Beer drinkers in the US have filed a $5m (£3.3m) lawsuit accusing Anheuser-Busch of watering down its beer. How low can you get? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bert Date: 26 Feb 13 - 07:46 PM Well, you walk a way from your grocery store with a six pack of Bud, you can't afford more But when you get home you must shed a tear 'cos you've bought a pack of the Bud with no beer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bert Date: 26 Feb 13 - 08:06 PM OK, OK. Another verse. Maybe you buy a case, to share with your friends while you watch the game on a rainy weekend But when they pop the tops they cry "What's this I hear" It's hard to get drunk, on a Bud with no beer. I'm working on it, I'm working on it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,mark-s(on the road) Date: 26 Feb 13 - 08:06 PM How did they know the difference? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bobert Date: 26 Feb 13 - 08:09 PM The stuff never made Bud wiser... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Rapparee Date: 26 Feb 13 - 08:36 PM There was a young lady, Ann Heiser Who said that no man could surprise her. But a fellow named Coors Found a way through her drawers And now she is sadder Bud Weiser. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Rapparee Date: 26 Feb 13 - 08:40 PM MAN THAT WATERS THE WORKERS' BEER (Paddy Ryan) I am the man, the very fat man, That waters the workers' beer I am the man, the very fat man, That waters the workers' beer And what do I care if it makes them ill, If it makes them terribly queer I've a car, a yacht, and an aeroplane, And I waters the workers' beer Now when I waters the workers' beer, I puts in strychnine Some methylated spirits, And a can of kerosine Ah, but such a brew so terribly strong, It would make them terribly queer So I reaches my hand for the watering-can And I waters the workers' beer Now a drop of good beer is good for a man When he's tired, thirsty and hot And I sometimes have a drop myself, From a very special pot For a strong and healthy working class Is the thing that I most fear So I reaches my hand for the watering-can And I waters the workers' beer Now ladies fair, beyond compare, Be you maiden or wife Spare a thought for such a man Who leads such a lonely life For the water rates are frightfully high, And the meths is terribly dear And there ain't the profit there used to be In watering the workers' beer |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bert Date: 26 Feb 13 - 10:50 PM Nice ones Rap. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Ron Davies Date: 26 Feb 13 - 10:57 PM Bert, ya gotta finish that song. It has immense promise--and you've made a great start. Maybe it should be above the line. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 26 Feb 13 - 11:00 PM Thank God it's just water that they added. Many feared that it was some Clydesdale extract |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bert Date: 26 Feb 13 - 11:15 PM I'm working on it Ron. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bert Date: 26 Feb 13 - 11:28 PM Here's what I've got so far Ron, there's still one flaky rhyme. But what do you expect when you are stone cold sober? Well, you walk a way from your grocery store with a six pack of Bud, you can't afford more But when you get home you must shed a tear 'cos you've bought a pack of the Bud with no beer. Maybe you buy a case, to share with your friends while you watch the game on a rainy weekend But when they pop the tops they tremble with fear They can't get drunk, on a Bud with no beer. The dog on the veranda he's starting to howl he finds there's just water in his water bowl He usually gets bud every night of the year But now they have given him, that Bud with no beer I stand in the court on a false DUI I'm pleading Not Guilty, and the Judge asks me why Your Honor I've not touched one drop of good cheer All I've been drinking is that Bud with no beer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: JohnInKansas Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:27 AM Bert: How low can you get? Apparently the ones suing are about as low (on IQ) as you're likely to find. In the US at least, I've never seen beer with a label showing a minimum alcohol content. Many places, in the US and elsewhere, have regulations limiting the maximum alcohol content, and lots of beer is labelled "does not contain more than XX% alcohol by weight." A 3.2% by weight is a common limit, but other places have different ones. 3.2% by weight is approximately 6% by volume or about "12 proof" but beer is never labelled that way anywhere I've been. (I was told once that Greenland limited it to something like 1.5% by weight, but never verified that, and it was a long time ago.) In Kansas, and several other places, you can buy "three-two" beer at the supermarket (because it's "non-alcoholic" according to the legislatures) but you have to go to a "package store" to get "strong beer." For several well-known brands, it's the same beer both places, but the "not over 3.2%" stuff is labelled to qualify for general sales and the "strong stuff" just doesn't have the label. One of the fairly popular "premium" whisk(e)ys attempted to change their traditionally "100 proof" stuff to "90 proof" due to a supply shortage, but was forced to revert back to the original recently "by popular demand" so the flap over that probably suggested the beer suit. "Popular knowledge" about the alcohol content of beers is almost entirely mythical and almost always dead wrong. The people who filed this suit are obviously among the deluded, and maybe dead drunk as well. Share a little of the musical ridicule for the complainers, if you can think up a good line or two. Nothing wrong with makin' a little fun about beer either, though. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Jim Carroll Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:58 AM This was given to song collector Tom Munnelly in the early 1970s by a County Clare farmer who had bought it twenty years or so earlier from a Traveller at a horse fair in Kerry. Tom reckoned it was possibly one of the last 'ballads' to be produced in Ireland. 'Ballads' were song sheets sold at fairs and markets throughout Ireland; they were the last remnants of the broadside trade and were almost exclusive to Travellers who would get them printed in batches, often by reciting the words over the counter to a local printer (most Travellers didn't read). BTW - a Garda is an Irish policeman Jim Carroll THE BAR WITH NO STOUT Now we've heard quite lot of the Pub with no Beer, And some people claim it's the hit of the year, But during the war I was rambling about, And I called for a Pint in a Bar with no Stout. The bar owner sat on a chair by the fire, I'd swear if you touched him he'd scrape like a briar, When I said "Fill a Pint" then his rag he got out. Saying "Your order is tall in the Bar with no Stout". A customer came in a donkey and car, He tied up his ass and took in a big jar. But the ass jumped and reared, from the door he pulled out, It's no place for an ass near a Bar with no Stout. The Garda on duty the first time in years, Came back from his beat all shaken with fears, The Sergeant said Pat, why you look knocked about, He stammered and told him the Bars got no Stout. The Postman returned from his rounds on the street, And when he had entered his time on the sheet, The Postmaster seeing no froth round his mouth, Guessed on the spot that the Bar had no Stout. Now 'tis lonesome to part with the one you love dear, Or to sit on a stool in a Pub with no Beer But there's nothing more lonesome without any doubt. Than to call for a Pint in a Bar with no Stout. Copyright by Cuthbertson Printer, Listowel |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,CS Date: 27 Feb 13 - 04:11 AM Curious. In US TV we get over here, you regularly see a bloke or woman walk into a bar, and ask for "a beer". "gimme a beer" they say. Just "a beer" no particular brand of beer or type of beer, not lager or bitter or stout. The guy behind the bar then gives them a small opened bottle of "beer". Is this normal? Are there no options in US bars? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bert Date: 27 Feb 13 - 04:30 AM Nice one Jim. That's just on TV, CS. If you do that for real they will ask you what beer do you want. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Leadfingers Date: 27 Feb 13 - 05:24 AM I was about to post about the fact that most Americans wouldnt know a good beer if they drank one , then thought how many people in UK insist on drinking that tastless UK produced So Called lager ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,999 Date: 27 Feb 13 - 06:37 AM "Thank God it's just water that they added. Many feared that it was some Clydesdale extract" They start with the Clydesdale extract, Sandy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bert Date: 27 Feb 13 - 07:05 AM most Americans wouldnt know a good beer if they drank one There are a lot of good micro breweries here now and good beer is becoming very popular. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: JohnInKansas Date: 27 Feb 13 - 07:25 AM Is this normal? Are there no options in US bars? When I was a "regular" in a half dozen places around town, when I walked in one of them I could expect the beer I wanted to be sitting on the table by the time I got there to sit down. Never needed to ask. Although I don't get out much anymore, my few more recent excursions indicate it's no longer the rule that the servers should know the customers and what they want. Even the people who apparently have no other home are still treated like strangers. I guess times change everywhere. Many of the "drinking holes" in the area have a choice of at least a half dozen brands/flavors, and that's been pretty usual almost everywhere I've been in the US. An exception was along the river in Philadelphia where "microbrews" became a fad 30? years ago (long before most places knew what they were) and one place I stopped in advertised 112 different brews. (I tried about half of them - I was walking - but I was a lot younger then, and it was still sort of tricky getting back to the hotel.) On US TV, they're generally careful about identifying anything by brand because they might have to pay a "royalty" for using the brand name, or negotiate a contract to have the brand pay for the "implied advertising." The fee they get for advertising (subtly?) is only enough to justify it for the few shows that show only one "name" auto in the car chases (and sometimes use something else [unidentifiable?] for the ones that explode). (Sort of like when xOil pays a NASCAR team to have their stickers on everything.) John |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,Dazbo at work Date: 27 Feb 13 - 07:27 AM I worked in brewing (including managing bottling lines for beers exported to the US) and at work and in leisure I have never seen a maximum alcohol content. The alcohol content of the can/bottle is (within certain packaging rules) as stated on the label. I'm surprised the US is different - with labelling like that it is open to abuse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,999 Date: 27 Feb 13 - 10:31 AM The following text from 1800 BC is the Hymn to Ninkasi, translated by Miguel Civil. It was written by a Sumerian poet and found on clay tablet. It actually includes one of the most ancient recipes for brewing beer. Hymn to Ninkasi Borne of the flowing water, Tenderly cared for by the Ninhursag, Borne of the flowing water, Tenderly cared for by the Ninhursag, Having founded your town by the sacred lake, She finished its great walls for you, Ninkasi, having founded your town by the sacred lake, She finished it's walls for you, Your father is Enki, Lord Nidimmud, Your mother is Ninti, the queen of the sacred lake. Ninkasi, your father is Enki, Lord Nidimmud, Your mother is Ninti, the queen of the sacred lake. You are the one who handles the dough [and] with a big shovel, Mixing in a pit, the bappir with sweet aromatics, Ninkasi, you are the one who handles the dough [and] with a big shovel, Mixing in a pit, the bappir with [date] - honey, You are the one who bakes the bappir in the big oven, Puts in order the piles of hulled grains, Ninkasi, you are the one who bakes the bappir in the big oven, Puts in order the piles of hulled grains, You are the one who waters the malt set on the ground, The noble dogs keep away even the potentates, Ninkasi, you are the one who waters the malt set on the ground, The noble dogs keep away even the potentates, You are the one who soaks the malt in a jar, The waves rise, the waves fall. Ninkasi, you are the one who soaks the malt in a jar, The waves rise, the waves fall. You are the one who spreads the cooked mash on large reed mats, Coolness overcomes, Ninkasi, you are the one who spreads the cooked mash on large reed mats, Coolness overcomes, You are the one who holds with both hands the great sweet wort, Brewing [it] with honey [and] wine (You the sweet wort to the vessel) Ninkasi, (...)(You the sweet wort to the vessel) The filtering vat, which makes a pleasant sound, You place appropriately on a large collector vat. Ninkasi, the filtering vat, which makes a pleasant sound, You place appropriately on a large collector vat. When you pour out the filtered beer of the collector vat, It is [like] the onrush of Tigris and Euphrates. Ninkasi, you are the one who pours out the filtered beer of the collector vat, It is [like] the onrush of Tigris and Euphrates. from http://beeradvocate.com/articles/304 |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Ron Davies Date: 27 Feb 13 - 11:29 AM Bert-- That song of yours sounds great. I'm glad it's not less filling. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bill D Date: 27 Feb 13 - 11:49 AM "extract of Clydesdale" Genesee is honest about it, but I guess they use smaller horses, so it takes 2 per bottle |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bat Goddess Date: 27 Feb 13 - 08:15 PM It's not as if it were really beer to start out with. I agree -- how could anyone tell the difference? It probably would be improved with a bit of pipi du cheval (or however the hell you say it in French). But if I go to the Press Room session Friday (where, by the way, they do NOT serve Budweiser and the like), I've GOT to sing (should I have my voice back) "The Man Who Waters the Workers' Beer". Linn |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST Date: 28 Feb 13 - 03:08 PM Some years ago I was on holiday in San Francisco and wound up in a bar on Grant Street where there was a good blues band playing. The bar served an amazing beer from a micro-brewery, I think it was called Anchor Steam Beer. Anyway, I got totally hammered and fell out of the bar at about 4.30 in the morning with a couple of dozen close friends, some of whom I'd known for as long as four hours. That was when I realised that I loved America - and I'm going back later this year to see if the east coast is as good as the west! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bill D Date: 28 Feb 13 - 05:55 PM Anchor Steam was THE only small brewery at one time..(before 1975). It almost went out of business, but was saved when Fritz Maytag (of the appliance fortune) went in and heard that his favorite beer might disappear. He bought it and supported it... then New Albion opened, and soon after more microbreweries...Anchor Steam is still going, and I had some for Xmas. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST Date: 01 Mar 13 - 07:16 AM Thank you for that Bill. It's good to know that it is still going. BrendanB (must reset my cookie!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bill D Date: 01 Mar 13 - 11:53 AM I am disposing of my 35 year old When I am done all the images (usually in groups of 24) will be posted online. I 'may' start posting before I actually get it all done. (I will start a separate thread for the occasion.) I will keep a few 'special' items...perhaps 10-15 that I cherish for different reasons...like the bottle from the above mentioned New Albion brewery and one that a friend brought me all the way from N. Zealand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 02 Mar 13 - 03:10 AM If ya' got Bud...who cares about beer??? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: gnu Date: 02 Mar 13 - 06:12 AM Black 'orse. Interesting read. http://nlbeerhistory.com/2012/06/08/black-horse-beer-the-thoroughbred/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,Erich Date: 02 Mar 13 - 08:45 AM this reminds me of an old joke: What is the difference between making love in a boat and american beer? There is none, both is fucking close to water. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,achmelvich Date: 02 Mar 13 - 02:56 PM now i topic i really care about. american budweiser is just pish, glad to see that many of you across the pond gare well aware of that. czech budweiser though is a lovely lager - possibly the best lager (not beer) i've had. i often wonder how the us version is allowed to trade on that name. still, what do i know? - i am a bitter man |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bill D Date: 02 Mar 13 - 06:15 PM When the right to use the name was purchased from Budvar way back when, there was some sort of agreement that they couldn't import the real stuff. (I think the best lager is Creemore Springs, from Canada.) I have not even tasted American Bud for 'about' 30 years, when I sipped a bit at my wife's cousin's place, just to be polite.... I sneakily poured out most of it. And...yes, Erich... we've all heard the old joke, and you can still buy trainloads of the bland, watery stuff. But with a tiny effort, you can get great beer of 'almost' any type here. (Not some of the special Belgian Ales etc., though there are decent clones of many of those,too.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Edthefolkie Date: 03 Mar 13 - 10:14 AM I seem to remember Aneuser Busch tried to stop Czech Budvar referring to "Budweis" or "Budweiser" on their labelling etc. Didn't they try to take them over too? Bloody cheek. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Edthefolkie Date: 03 Mar 13 - 10:16 AM AnHEUSER Busch, sorry. For some reason Mudcat sometimes stops me correcting my own typos! Think it's that flashing ad above the "reply" box. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,999 Date: 03 Mar 13 - 10:30 AM It's so lonesome away from your kindred and all By the campfire at night where the wild dingoes call But there's nothing so lonesome, so morbid, so drear As to stand with can full of Bud with no beer (With apologies, etc.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,999 Date: 03 Mar 13 - 01:32 PM Correction to the scansion of line four. It's so lonesome away from your kindred and all By the campfire at night where the wild dingoes call But there's nothing so lonesome, so morbid, so drear As to stand with a can full of Bud with no beer (With further apologies, etc.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bill D Date: 03 Mar 13 - 01:57 PM No need to apologize... I was drinking beer and barely noticed... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 03 Mar 13 - 02:17 PM Well the swaggy comes in, covered in dust and flies Throws down his roll, wipes the sweat from his eyes But when he is told he says "What's this I hear?" "I trudged 50 flaming miles and got horsepiss for beer!" My apology to Slim Dusty as well! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,999 Date: 03 Mar 13 - 02:25 PM LOL, Sandy. Bill, I got a buck that'll get you two says it wasn't Bud. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 03 Mar 13 - 06:09 PM I just fished around in the fridge and found a bottle of Beck's beer and whaddya know, it doesn't say a thing about alcohol content anywhere on the bottle. Who'd a thunk it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bill D Date: 03 Mar 13 - 06:50 PM It wasn't Bud... keep your money, anyway. Leenia... I thought all beer had to show alcohol %.... but I just uncovered an old Beck's bottle and several other German beers and none of them do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,999 Date: 04 Mar 13 - 12:29 PM This link might help regarding alcohol content of beers, ales, etc. http://www.csulb.edu/~parayner/Alcohol.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 05 Mar 13 - 12:03 PM Right, Bill. Not only that, the bottle of Beck's I had came from Brauerei Beck, St. Louis, MO, so it was made in the U.S. I'm surprised that they can sell an alcoholic beverage without informing the consumer how strong it is. Good thing I only drink half a beer at a time, about once every six months. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: Bill D Date: 05 Mar 13 - 03:27 PM I often drink 1/2 at a time too, now....at least when I'm just sitting in the evening... I may have *gasp* two! when I'm at a party. I just started a thread with the first batch of pics of my old bottles. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Bud with no beer. From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 06 Mar 13 - 10:33 AM Thanks to this thread, the DH and I had a nice time last night, watching all the videos we could find on YouTube with the Budweiser Clydesdales in them. They are such beautiful and amazing animals! They tempt me to switch to Bud just so their corporate 'godmother' can be supported. Keep those videos in mind for the next time you need cheering up. |
