What to feed - and not feed - your dogs

Subject: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Apr 13 - 11:10 PM

For the last year I've been cutting up raw veggies and adding them to the dry dogfood in my dogs' meals. They are fed twice a day, in the evening they get the extra food. I do it to add fiber and moisture to their diet.

Tonight I had cut up raw carrots in their dishes, and tonight I had to do the Heimlich maneuver on my pit bull, because she swallows food whole sometimes. She is fine, but she was frothing at the mouth and I realized she couldn't get it out by herself. They've had carrots in the past - they were probably cut up smaller - and if I give them again I'll cook them first or grind them up like carrot salad.

What do you feed your dogs, and what do you avoid feeding your dogs, and why? I know we have a lot of dog-lovers here at Mudcat. I'm sure there is some valuable experience to share. I give mine veggies mixed with an organic dog food (good ingredients, no preservatives) because I don't have the time or income to produce the homemade balanced diets that you read about in the Rodale book, etc.

SRS

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 01:36 AM

We don't currently have a dog member in the family, but it should be noted that there have been widespread and persistent notices of recalls on a variety of "dry and dried dog foods and dog treats" due in almost all recent cases to salmonella contamination. Announcements come and go in the news, and it may be that the newspeople just haven't had much else to report (or nothing else with official press releases to tell them how to spell what they have to report) but they do seem to have been much more "in the news" in recent weeks.

If in doubt about something, one "official" source that should be reliable is the US FDA Animal and Veterinary Recalls and Withdrawals, and reports here stay up for a while when they might be on a news site for only a day or so.

A widespread recall of "dried jerky treats" got a lot of attention recently, and it may be just that other pet product suppliers are being extremely cautious for a while. Almost all notices have been about salmonella contaminations, and vet opinion is that these are seldom an extreme danger to our pets, producing mostly "flu-like" symptoms; but since we can be infected from our infected pets and it is (much more?) dangerous in humans there may just be more reporting on fairly ordinary risks.

One advice that's probably good: "Wash your hands every time you scoop the poop."

John

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 01:40 AM

What a scary experience, Sage. Glad your intervention was successful.

The main thing I avoid giving my dog - other than the proscribed things dogs never should have - is items that I can't cut or break into smaller pieces but that are small enough to get caught in a throat. Like the ribeye on a steak. I wouldn't trust it. On the other hand, I have in the past taken a hammer to a bone to make it safer.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 05:11 AM

I don't believe in dried dog food, and see it as a convenience to owners, but not to dogs. I mean, what does a wild dog/dingo/coyote, eat in dry form? To me it's unnatural.
Our dog gets fed twice a day too, and she gets dog mixer biscuits, soaked in warm water till it swells, and a wee drop of milk, at breakfast. Not too much milk, as I don't think cows milk in more than small amounts is good for dogs. In the evening, she gets more soaked mixer, with the addition of canned dogmeat. Friend of mine feeds his dog on raw meat and biscuits, it's supposed to reduce the 'bum breath' factor.
I was always taught never to feed dogs between meals, except for a small token reward, when training. NEVER give them sweets or chocolate.
My dog never comes to the table looking for food when we are eating, as she has been trained not to, as I find this off putting when it happens at a friend's house.
I dearly love my dog, and hope she's happy with what we provide for her. She's certainly bright eyed and bushy tailed, so maybe we're doing something right.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: gnu
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 06:15 AM

Ditto Ebbie and glad Dr. SRS was on duty.

I agree with John on soaking any dry "food" except for biscuits specifically made for teeth cleaning. I like the idea of veggies to an extent but one item oft overlooked is fruit such as apples (no cores and NEVER seeds) and berries. Yer wild "dogs" eat apples and berries so it just makes sense. I wouldn't feed a dog strawberries because of the seeds. I won't eat em either ceptin our local field strawberries which have FAR fewer seeds than the mass-produced ones from Florida and other exotic locations and I only eat em courtside at yer Wimbledon Men's Final... with skim milk, not cream... no champange needer.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 06:40 AM

Warnings from the vets that you should not give chocolate to dogs is fairly common.

People are also cautioned against giving aspirin to them, although a few vets have recently "prescribed" aspirin for very special conditions. It probably would be best to discuss each case with your own care provider if you consider aspirin for any doggy use.

A number of vets have insisted you should "never give popcorn to a dog." The warning likely is because when they sniff while considering whether to eat it, popcorn is light enough to be sucked into their nose and can cause irritation and infection, although I've never known a vet who gave a reason for the warning.

The traditional lore that "wild dogs ate meat so all dogs must have meat" is largely mythical. It has been amply demonstrated that whether or not the earliest dogs were mainly or exclusively carnivores, studies of their evolution have shown that they've been associated with their human omnivore companions long enough (16 million years?) to be fully as omnivorouse as we are and can be healthy eating very much the same diet we do. A regular evolution toward handling increasingly humanlike diets is documented over many millenia.

There are a few dietary exceptions that make some human foods less beneficial to dogs, and a very few nutrients that are more beneficial to dogs than to us; but for the most part a balanced doggy meal can be about anything you can make it from - that's mostly the same stuff you yourself would eat. (Slightly more caution might be advisable relative to the claim that "if your dog eats it you can too," although that's not necessarily based on nutritianal analyses alone.)

Table scraps straight off the table can be hazardous, if they contain small bones or ones that might splinter (like fowl or rabbit ribs?) but of course our dogs deserve more attention to having a healthy diet than we worry about for our own consumption. Almost any commercial food, wet or dry, will provide all the nutrients your dog needs, and may be a "better balanced" diet than what you eat, so using that instead of making a garbage can out of your pet may be the better choice.

Dogs are also about as variable as we are in how efficiently they use the foods that go into them, so there are cases where "special diets" can help them if they suffer from poor utilization of some specific nutrients. Such cases probably are a lot less common than the advertisers claim.

(I once thought, for two years, that my asparagus had mysteriously died out, before I found that my poodle was gnawing it off at the roots as fast as it sprouted because he really loved that stuff. But he wouldn't touch the stuff out of a can.)

John

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: kendall
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 07:44 AM

Dogs are still carnivores descended from wolves. In the wild, they will eat as long as the food holds out because it could be days before they eat again. It's just natural for them to stuff themselves. Dry dog food is full of fillers, unnatural and unappealing to most dogs.
My grand daughters dog doesn't care for dry food but loves bananas and carrots.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: bobad
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 08:10 AM

The opinions on dry food for dogs are, frankly, nonsense. Any quality dry feed is formulated to supply dogs with all the essential nutrients they require. The cheaper ones do contain fillers which, although not harmful to the animal, do require the feeding of larger quantities resulting in larger stools. I would venture to suggest that unless one is extremely diligent in formulating their own food to ensure their pet is receiving a complete and balanced diet the dry food is vastly superior. Ask your vet.

This is a list of the ingredients of the dry food I feed my dog who, at 9 years old, is being fed a formula for older dogs whose activity level and metabolism are slowing down.

INGREDIENTS:
Ground corn, chicken meal, ground rice, ground wheat, pea fibre, chicken fat, beet pulp, flaxseed, natural flavour, potassium, calcium carbonate, salt, L-lysine, DL-methionine, vitamins (choline, Vitamin A, Vitamin D3, Vitamin E, niacin, Vitamin C, inositol, d-pantothenate, thiamine B1, riboflavin B2, beta-carotene, pyridoxine B6, folic acid, Vitamin K, biotin, Vitamin B12 ), minerals (zinc, iron, copper, manganese, iodine, selenium), Yucca schidigera extract.
TYPICAL ANALYSIS:                         ADDITIVES*:         
Crude protein         19%                 Vitamin A         18,000 IU/kg
Crude fat         8.5%                 Vitamin D3         1,300 IU/kg
Crude fibre         5%                 Vitamin E**         195 mg/kg
Crude ash         4%                 Copper***         14 mg/kg
Moisture         8%                         
Calcium         0.6%                         
Phosphorus         0.45%                         

* With antioxidants: Tocopherol-rich extracts of natural origin (EC additives).
** DL-alpha-tocopheryl acetate
***As cupric sulphate, pentahydrate and cupric chelate of amino acids hydrate

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 10:49 AM

I happen not to care for popcorn but I pop some and take it to our weekly music jam. My little dog doesn't care for it either but one of the musicians often gives him some. My dog accepts it, backs a few feet away, deposits it on the floor and goes back for more.

I suppose one could call him the eternal optimist.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 10:53 AM

Here is the senior food that my dogs get. No preservatives, and it is an allergy formula:

Senior Dog Formula (Muenster Natural)
Fortified with Vitamins and Minerals
For Seniors and Less Active Dogs

BENEFITS

* Beet Pulp- Extremely digestible source of dietary fiber.
* Flax Seed- Nature's richest source of Omega 3. Nutritional experts have found that a diet rich in Omega 3 & natural antioxidants significantly improves the health and appearance of animals.
* Mixed Tocopherols, Citric Acid & Rosemary Extract- Natural antioxidants enhance freshness and palatability.
* Chicken Meal- Highly digestible animal protein and source of Omega 6 fatty acids.
* Yeast Culture- Enhances nutrient digestion and improves performance ability.

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS

Crude Protein, Min 21.00%
Crude Fat, Min 10.00%
Crude Fiber, Max 4.00%
Moisture, Max 10.00%
Omega 3* Fatty Acids 1.00%
Omega 6* Fatty Acids 2.90%
L-Carnitine*, Min 200ppm
Glucosamine*, Max 400ppm
Chondroitin*, 100ppm

*Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles.


INGREDIENTS

Chicken meal, ground brown rice, barley, rice flour, rice bran, whole oats, chicken fat (naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), oatmeal, flax seed, dried beet pulp, fruit and vegetable blend (carrots, peas,sweet potatoes, blueberries, cranberries), diatomaceous earth (an inert carrier and anti-caking agent), hemicelluloses extract, chicory root, natural chicken flavor, fish oil, yeast culture, dried kelp meal, potassium sulfate, sea salt, dried eggs, yucca schidigera extract, sage, zinc amino acid complex, manganese amino acid complex, copper amino acid complex, vitamin A supplement,vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement (natural source vitamin E), mixed tocopherols, citric acid, rosemary extract, ferrous sulfate, choline chloride, glucosamine hydrochloride, chondroitin sulfate, l-carnitine, manganese sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, niacin, d-calcium pantothenate, biotin, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitmain B-12 supplement, folic acid, ethylene diamine dihydriodide, and cobalt carbonate.
.

FEEDING DIRECTIONS FOR THE SENIOR AND LESS ACTIVE DOG

Dogs of different breeds, temperament, and physical condition utilize foods with differing degrees of effectiveness. These suggested feeding levels will vary with individual dogs in different environments and stress conditions. Vary amounts according to body condition of your dog(s).

FOOD INTAKE PER DAY

Weight-(LBS.) Food-(LBS.) Food-(CUPS*)
5 0.16 0.65
10 0.27 1.00
15 0.38 1.50
20 0.46 1.75
30 0.63 2.50
50 0.90 3.50
70 1.18 4.75
110 1.64 6.50

* One standard 8 ounce measuring cup brimful holds approximately 1/4 pound (0.25) of Muenster Natural Dog Food fortified with vitamins and minerals.

Muenster Natural Dog Food fortified with vitamins and minerals is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles for Maintenance and Performance.


The youngest dog gets a very similar allergy food mix from the same company.

I think if I softened the food they would end up with a lot more dental problems. The dry food at least helps chip off some of the plaque on their teeth. My vet has said not to give them wet canned food for that reason.

SRS

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 11:27 AM

http://voices.yahoo.com/the-best-vegetables-dogs-dog-eating-1552597.html

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 11:35 AM

I feed my dog a mix of dry and canned food, moistened a bit and stirred up in the bowl.

Of more interest is what the dog feeds herself. If you'd like a full list, go to YouTube and find that old Bugs Bunny cartoon where Bugs reads off the list of things the Tasmanian Devil eats. Copy it verbatim and add "anything made of cardboard".

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Amos
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 12:00 PM

Maggie thrives on a formulated kibble called Wellness Core. She supplements it with occasional wild grasses, but not very often. Her health is excellent, she is in fighting trim and gallops like a freight train, and sleeps like a log. She is trained not to request people food, but sometimes she gives you the eye when it smells good.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: BrendanB
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 01:12 PM

Millie is a saluki, startlingly beautiful and elegant ( and she knows it! ). We feed her a mixture of canned and dried food mixed together. However, because there is a large rabbit population around here she regularly supplements her diet with bunny. I am amazed how she can digest fur, bones etc. without any apparent ill-effect. The business of catching chasing rabbits also ensures that she gets plenty of exercise.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 01:26 PM

My dogs graze all day long on various grasses and herbs. The chocolate lab has acquired a taste for lemon balm while the catahoula really enjoys the little hard berries from the hackberry, and both the lab and catahoula like the hackberry leaves on small sprouts around the fenceline.

I have been giving them raw veggies, but the other night I had a batch of broccoli that had been cooked and they really went nuts over that. As Jack's article suggests, cruciferous veggies are mostly what they get - broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, but they also like squash (zucchini, yellow squash) and they like carrots, but that is one I will cook in the future. They love apples, pears, and an occasional banana. (These are all foods the lab has snatched during a counter-surfing episodes, and the other dogs like them in their dishes.)

Given their druthers, if you saw them go gaga over people food at the back door, you would know that they would choose bread. For example, I had some soft garlic bread sticks (like the ones they serve at Olive Garden) that were freezer-burned, so I warmed them and gave them to the dogs - they will leap tall buildings in a single bound to get their mouths on those morsels.

SRS

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 01:41 PM

Basically, a dog is a dustbin, so feed it cheap bagged food, and most of your leftovers (not including bones that will splinter) and exercise it where it can run around and eat what it likes and it'll be fine.

I heard of ONE case of a lab eating a disposable nappy - expanded in its stomach and killed it) and have heard several cases of inflatable rubber balls being swallowed in lumps too large to crap out, and one of a puppy eating a clean roll of bandage - all of these require operations for removal from the stomach.

I did once know a labrador-cross that picked and ate gooseberries.

Chocolate is not good - but I once knew a pointer who could get an Xmas tree chocolate out of the foil wrapper leaving the wrapper still on the tree!

It's mostly a bit like people food. Less fuss is good.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 02:33 PM

Dog chow and the occasional Jehova's witness.

Mind you, greyhounds like mine don't have the constitution of my previous mongrels so whilst Bridge's observations used to work for me, I would be welcomed by a sloppy smelly dog egg if his diet extended beyond the food the rescue place recommended and his gravy bones for treats.

Mind you, he is especially partial to horse shit. If he enjoyed bullshit to the same extent I could feed him links to postings on mudcat by the usual suspects. ...

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 02:40 PM

Dry food, obtained from vet, plus some leftovers from stews, rice dishes. Addition of a little milk.
Treats, lo-cal, also from vet.

Occasional- bits of cooked chicken, roast trim. etc., but as small additions. Once a week, half a cooked egg.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Llanfair
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 02:49 PM

Monty is fed once a day, either dog meat and mixer or Bakers complete. I avoid giving him too much protein as this can cause fits. He gets a few leftovers as well, but his weight problem is due mainly to his midnight bin raids. He was a stray for a while before I got him, and never lost the habit. Monday night's the worst, binmen come on Tuesday morning.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Becca72
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 03:12 PM

Foods that are toxic to dogs

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Becca72
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 03:18 PM

Other foods that can prove fatal to your dog: onion, avocado and macadamia nuts. The jury is still out on garlic.

Richard is wrong, wrong and wrong in his statement that dogs are "dustbins".
And they certainly can NOT eat anything a human can.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 03:33 PM

>>I mean, what does a wild dog/dingo/coyote, eat in dry form? To me it's unnatural.
Our dog gets fed twice a day too, and she gets dog mixer biscuits, soaked in warm water till it swells, and a wee drop of milk, <<

I read this earlier and have been thinking bout it for a while. It tickles me mightily!

I keep imagining grown wolves and coyotes sitting on stools milking cows.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Claire M
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 03:43 PM

Hiya,

Merlin never has chocolate. I won't even eat it in front of him. Now I can't have it either – it has a funny effect on me!

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Wolfhound person
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 03:48 PM

Mine get whatever make of dry dog food is cheapest from the local pet shop - except the gluten intolerant 16 year old collie retriever who gets an older dog mix in small quantities. We've had her stable for 15 years provided she gets no treats (which aren't gluten free, on the whole).We feed them all twice a day.

They seem to thrive on it. We had a GSD x wolfhound for a short while who picked and ate blackberries in season, but she didn't live well in a pack so she had to be rehomed.
I cared for my mother's Lhasa Apso for a while some years back, and it would do anything for cauliflower - including escaping into the garden and digging up the plants.

They get very very few treats, and even less human leftovers. And they thrive on it, and don't craze us.

Paws, & current pack of wolfhound x bearded collie, collie x retriever, and two beardies.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 05:32 PM

PMSL. If garlic (in the quantities used in cooking) was harmful I can think of a lab-X, 3 pointers (one of which qualified for Crufts), a great dane (notoriously food-sensitive) and a border-collie cross who would not have lived to the ages they did.

Cows' milk they love but it does have to be restricted.

And I'd concede avocado and chocolate as not good, and leftover vindaloo is over-productive. Too much turkey gravy is an emetic (ask me how I know) - er - maybe not.

The fussy buggers would pick out and leave on the ground courgette marrow and cucumber - and strawberry. Not that they often got those.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: gnu
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 06:15 PM

I understand some dogs like lemmings. And so does Tyler.

One of the best movies I have ever seen.

The scene in the movie where there is trouble in the plane... if you have ever been in such a plane, that scene is hilarious. 99% of viewers don't get it. But I won't spoil the scene for first time viewers.

I say, "Good idea." to watch this movie.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 07:44 PM

For unexpected doggie diets I can report that one day, as a pup, my mini poodle "ate" the TV remote (or at least enough buttons off it that it didn't work).

Remote replaced, but two days later my pup "ate" the TV remote.

Remote replaced, but a couple of days later he one more time chewed the $@%#^!! out of the TV remote. Judicious use of duct tape salvaged some functions and I DUCT TAPED IT TO A HIGH PLACE ON THE WALL.

On the possibility that he might just be interested in watching a little TV, a it made a point to repeatedly "point him" at the monitor and flipped through the channels while explaining what the programs were, on a regular basis for a month or so, with absolutely no indication that he had the least interest in anything,

until ....

a few months later ....

He went absolutely bonkers over a nature show that was displaying a bunch of baboons.

He retained his fascination with baboons to the end of his days with us, but completely, consistently, and persistently, REFUSED to ever pay any attention any thing else on the TV. (he also never found a baboon he appeared to have any liking or respect for - which may be some consolation for Chongo, for whose family he showed no notice at all.)

John

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 08:25 PM

Our Shih-tzus have a diet concocted jointly by my wife and our veterinarian -A mixture of:

hamburger or egg
canned pumpkin, string beans, or beets (pumpkin is best)
oat bran
A seaweed product called Solid Gold Seameal

And then my 98-yr-old mother-in-law tosses kibble to them, so they have to chase down each piece. This is great entertainment for both dogs and grandmother. I think they get 1/8 cup of Canidae kibble.

Oh, and then they get cottage cheese for breakfast.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 10:08 PM

So grapes and raisins are toxic to dogs, huh? Does that mean anything made from grapes is bad for them? Miss Tina is gonna be horribly upset if I have to cut off her daily ration of Mad Dog 20/20. Living out in the woods as we do, it's her only opportunity to socialize with other canines.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 11:39 PM

My catahoula loves to munch down the green tops of garlic. There are several areas in my back yard where it comes up every year. I figure she's about 8 years old now. Cross garlic off the restricted list.

Dog bloat in deep-chested dogs is why I feed my dogs twice a day now. I used to feed them once, but I was convinced that it might contribute to "bloat."

SRS

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Crowhugger
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 12:20 AM

What is "mixer"?

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Rog Peek
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 02:42 AM

Crowhugger:- Dry Ginger, Tonic water, etc,?

Rog

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 05:05 AM

hey, Paws - I met a wolfhound at the markets on Sunday, we said hello! It had no trouble walking thru the crowds.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 05:12 AM

Dogs evolved eating carrion, if given a bone with raw meat still attached they will bury it to give it some extra rotting time. When given the chance they will re-gobble their own poop to give it another pass though their GI tract. Are their stomachs really all that dainty? Better question, do you let them lick you with those mouths?

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: gnu
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 05:21 AM

"to repeatedly "point him" at the monitor and flipped through the channels"

If he had actually ate the remote, yada had ta ta change channels.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 01:09 PM

My friend had a scottie who wasn't thriving. The vet told her to stop feeding him cheese. (Don't ask me why she was feeding her dog cheese.)

Carrots were okay, though, but having heard SRS's story, I'm now troubled by the way she would hand him a whole carrot and he would simply inhale it. If I had a dog, I would chop it up.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 02:47 PM

Don't be ridiculous. I didn't give my dog a whole carrot. I chopped it up, but it wasn't chopped as small as usual.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 02:59 PM

The lady in my link says to steam veggies for dogs because they have trouble processing raw veggies. Growing up I sometimes fed my dog leftovers from Sunday dinner. Usually it was carrots and spuds with beef gravy. Sometime he would eat them. Most times he would just lick off the gravy.

He loved leftover gravy.

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 03:00 PM

I remember now he wasn't a fan of dry dog food. But put some gravy on it and WATCH OUT!!

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: number 6
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 03:50 PM

CoCo the Beeno gets fed Arcana dry kibbles mixed with Brunswick sardines in the morning ... in the evening the same kibble mixed with some Wellness canned lamb and a spot of Gallo olive oil mixed in.

CoCo is a very happy healthy 7 year old greyhound.

biLL

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:03 PM

eats better than me! Canned lamb!

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: olddude
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:29 PM

no raisins in anything. It is very very poison to dogs. I gave my dog half of my muffin and my vet daughter had a fit. Likewise chocolate

Subject: RE: What to feed - and not feed - your dogs
From: olddude
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:31 PM

a holistic dog food is what mine get. My vet daughter said it will keep them all healthy.   So they get it, even if expensive. I think my old 14 year wiener dog will out live me. He is still tossing his toys around