BS: Argggh! Building a new resume

Subject: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Janie
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 07:31 PM

Is hard when one has been working for a long, long time.

Help, please, from those of you who know me here on-line for all the years I have been posting on Mudcat and may have helpful comments to help me come up with a resume that will help me sell myself, something I am not good at. I understand I am inviting some trollish comments also, but I am reasonably good at ignoring trolls, and I really need some help with this resume stuff.

I'm very frustrated right now trying to follow the templates and instructions for "sexy and concise" resumes, each tailored to the particular job for which I am applying.

Some background. 61 years old. Tomorrow (as I realized just as I was typing right now) will mark the 40th anniversary of my entry into the very diverse field that is called Social Work. I've had two rather lengthy career tracks in social work, including both micro and macro practice. The first half of my career was in public welfare, the second half, was and continues to be, mental health. In the first track my career path moved from exclusively direct practice to exclusively macropractice. The second half, post MSW, when I moved into mental health, has always included direct practice, but for the past several years has included assorted permeations of managerial macropractice. I am focusing on the second half of my career, and especially on direct practice, though for some of the positions I will be considering, my experience as a supervisor or administrator are important also.

Currently I work for a rural community hospital as the director, psychotherapist, social worker, and half-time administrative support staff (I only have a part time administrative assistant) of a small outpatient psychiatric clinic. As is the case with many community hospitals, this hospital is on the ropes, has decided to focus on core inpatient and outpatient procedures that provide some profit and over the next 2-4 months will be closing most of the outpatient speciality practices it currently offers. My clinic is slated to close the end of September. I am fortunate to get a 4 month heads up. I hope I can stay to see it through to the end, and may find that is the case because I can't otherwise find another job, but also have to think about my own needs, (early retirement is not an option,) and need to assertively begin looking for work. For now, I will be applying for desirable jobs, given that I have 4 months. In 4-6 weeks, I'll start lowering my sights if something I really want to do at a decent salary hasn't turned up. In any event, I need a good, customizable resume. As I said earlier. I am lousy at self-promotion.

A four page resume won't get it, and from my on-line research and exploration of current trends in resumes, my current old fashioned resume won't get it either.

Looking for any input about resume building, perceived and possibly marketable attributes and how to word them, etc. Impressions you have of me that perhaps I don't perceive as being an attribute (and how that might be worded on a resume:>) Even some one (and I would pay for this) who has skills in either/or resume writing or with MSWord who could format and type a resume. In short, any help I can get.

I don't ask for much, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Janie
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 08:04 PM

Should add - When I took this current job, 3 years ago, it was a 50% increase in annual salary. I have enjoyed three years of making enough money to not live strictly from payday to payday, and to not have to rely on credit cards every single time a car develops expensive repair problems, but have continued to live pretty much as I always have, and am prepared to take a significant cut in pay, if for no other reason than to have medical insurance. (I'd work for minimum wage if a company offered health insurance rather than retire early without health insurance) I don't want to sell myself short unnecessarily, however, and am aware that I am so conservative in terms of my own finances, underestimation of my experience and skills and risk tolerance that I easily could do that. I know I am overage and over-qualified because of all the years of experience I have. How do I convince a prospective employer that these are assets, not liabilites, and that I would not be eaten up by resentment if I take a job with considerable less money, and perhaps less responsibility. I'm a competent manager/administrator, but I really don't like it and have no need to "be in charge."

I don't want to under-sell myself, but also don't want to be overlooked because a potential employer may assume I would be discontent with less money than I am currently making or would not be very happy as strictly a therapist who is a team player, happy to do whatever is needed and with no need for being "in charge" of something.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 08:07 PM

Gee... I wish I had some advice. I just... don't.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 10:11 PM

http://esciencenews.com/articles/2013/06/02/new.research.shows.asking.a.precise.number.during.negotiations.can.give.you.upper.hand

That article is worth a read, Janie.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 10:30 PM

http://www.resumesthatwork.org/Pages/faqs.aspx

Might be worthwhile contacting these people and seeing what kinda price they ask.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 10:31 PM

I can't offer much, but...

To avoid awkwardness about bragging about yourself, write in the 3rd person. That's what I've read, anyhow.

Put it on colored paper, if submitting by mail. Subtle and tasteful, mind you. My husband got his first job because a harried HR person looked idly at the stack of paper in his inbox and asked himself, "What's this blue thing?" It was the DH's resume.

Ideas I heard from the HR Director of Proctor and Gamble about job interviews:

Get your hair styled and your teeth cleaned.

When you are interviewed, smile. The interviewer will then picture you working about the place, smiling.

You'll be nervous, but so will the interviewer. The interviewer is responsible if you turn out to be no good.
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I've been looking at your post. It seems to me that the style is too complicated. Sentences are too long, words are too big. Today's mid-managers don't want to read something that hard. It's harder to read online than it is on paper, as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 10:38 PM

Work up an "elevator speech" -- tell someone who you are, what you can do, and why you should be hired -- all in 15 to 30 seconds. It sounds like very little time, but it isn't. You'd be surprised how appreciative and interviewer is AND it helps YOU to focus on YOU instead of a particular job.

You're selling yourself and you need a good commercial.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Janie
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 11:30 PM

I've been looking at your post. It seems to me that the style is too complicated. Sentences are too long, words are too big. Today's mid-managers don't want to read something that hard. It's harder to read online than it is on paper, as well.

Thanks leeneia. Good feedback. I struggle with that when I write. Was a policy writer for a number of years and had to spell out everything and attempt to eliminate all room for nuance or interpretation. Have never been able to leave that behind.


Good advise, Rap. I can brag and build effectively with regard to colleagues, but have difficulty doing so about myself. I don't doubt my competency, but I am supposed to be competent. Have difficulty with self promotion.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Janie
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 11:36 PM

And helpful links, whoever guest is. Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: mg
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 01:44 AM

i could help you edit and format in word..no charge of course

but not until after the 13th or so..

and do you mean it has to be more than 4 pages???? or less..I would think 2 would do it....

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 08:56 AM

Can you get any help (especially up-to-date examples) from your professional association?

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 09:06 AM

There are those who recommend one page, no more than two page, resumes.

Bull.

If you've been working for years you WILL need more. You've had too much education and experience and this is your chance to bring the highlights of what you've done and who you are to light. Only someone immediately out of college can keep a resume short and sometimes not even then (consider an ex-soldier who worked in logistics and transportation as a Platoon Sergeant).

And do NOT use colored paper -- ivory or a very, very pale gray are fine. Simple type fonts in BLACK -- I once discarded a resume simply because it was green ink on hot pink paper and yes, it stood out, but it was damned near unreadable. Don't get fancy; you are selling your skills for a job and most jobs are not in Hollywood or graphic design.

(I also once discarded a job application in which the applicant spelled his first name three different ways. Make your own comment.)

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: GUEST,crazy little woman
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 09:16 AM

Try writing a resume as if you were posting it to Mudcat. You are a 61-year old psychologist. Pretend you are on a long, boring plane ride and are explaining your career to a 42-year-old seatmate who is intelligent but works in an another field. Banking, say. What do you do? What are you proud of? What's the favorite part of your job?

Hang on, and I will post an example of good Mudcat writing - well, what I think is good Mudcat writing.   

My husband works with your engineers. They get it that writing should be clear and concise, but they go too far and write skimpy reports that are unconvincing. He has to work with them so they include enough stuff to convince the public that they are not skating over problems or hiding anything.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: GUEST,crazy little woman
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 09:32 AM

This is a post by Deckman about singing for other singers.
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I gather the frame of reference of this thread is Europe? All I can add is to speak from my own experiences here in the northwest corner of the U.S.

I've recently sung several concerts where there were many experienced singers in the audience. I was thrilled to see them from the stage. I was even more pleased to observe as they became a very, very good audience. They were watching, and listening very carefully. I could see as they took in the little nuances that only experienced stage performers notice. After these concerts, to a person they all made comments about the little things they'd picked up on.

Give me an audience of performers any day ....
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Some sentences are long, some are short, most are medium length.

Words are simple, but when he needs a technical term (nuances) he uses it.

Paragraphs are not too long. (I myself can't be bothered to read an Internet paragraph that's more than 4-5 lines long. Janie, you have some that are 7.)

He makes a point (good audience) and backs it up (watching, listening commenting later)

He wraps it up with a good punch line.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 10:24 AM

Keep it short...

People don't much care what you did 40 years ago unless, of course, it is what you are still doing...

Don't use references... Use "References submitted upon request"...

Use a cover letter that outlines you particular interests and skills in any job for which you might be applying...

No semi-nude pics... Jus' funnin' there...

Good luck, Janie... Wish I could be more help...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 12:25 PM

One thing an old poetry professor told me about good writing that never left, I think it applies well in this context:

"Concision and Precision"

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 02:04 PM

As for blowing your own horn, I have two thoughts for you:

1) Perhaps you could try to pretend that you are a friend or colleague of yourself and think what they would say about you.

If you find you can't do that...
2) Is there a work colleague you trust & respect enough to ask them to give you feedback on your good/excceptional aspects?

Sorry not to have other CV advice for you. I'm a graphic designer, so the "rules" are a bit different for me, plus I've been in the UK for so long...

But I wish you much, much luck...

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Janie
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 08:39 PM

Really appreciate the feedback. Complex, run-on sentences are my "specialty" as some of you here on Mudcat know all too well.

Kind of torn between the two perspectives on "keep it to two pages" vs the perspective offered by Rap. It is unlikely I will be applying to any companies or agencies that are so large they "scan" resumes for keywords, or who do not have time to read a resume that is 3-4 pages rather than 2 pages. However, there are some places, such as Duke and UNC healthcare systems, where I could be eliminated just because I don't follow the current conventional wisdom and newer resume formats.

Scanning the job market, I probably need three slightly different resumes. One with emphasis on my clinical skills and experience as a psychotherapist, a second that emphasizes both my clinical skills and my supervisory/team leader experience in public mental health, i.e. I'm a good beaurocrat as well as a clinician, and one that highlights my middle-level management experience in combination with clinical work.

Happy anniversary to me. As I noted in my first post, today is the 40th anniversary of my entry into social work.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 08:55 PM

Thinking more about this, I believe that the cover letter is far more important than the resume...

It's your 1st impression...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: banjoman
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 05:19 AM

Hi - I spent many years helping others to compile their resume and offer the following:
Dont try and write your life story - be precise and centre on your experience.
It may be useful to use a phrase such as- Looking on the end of current employment as a challenge (or an opportunity) to use experience in a new field (area) of employment.
From your initial request, it seems obvious that you have a lot of "Interpersonal" skills (Get on well with people) which you should emphasise.
Recent research suggests that the average time a prospective employer takes to read a resume is about 2.5 minutes so you have to grab their attention from the start.
Very best of luck - get back to me if you want any more info

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Charmion
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 05:33 AM

I do this stuff for a living.

Start with details of your qualifications -- licences, languages spoken, security clearance (!)

Then immediately go to work experience. List your positions, starting with the most recent, giving a point-form list of duties, respomsibilities and achievements for each.

Be detailed with the most recent, and progressively less so as you go back in time.

Emphasize your span of authority and span of influence, using details such as number of clients served, size of budget -- whatever happens in your practice to show effectiveness of your work.

Start each bullet with a verb.

End with education -- degrees, diplomas and courses -- and publications.

And do not let them see you sweat. You are a professional of long experience, a valuable resource who will bring important skills and capabilities to the team.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 11:11 AM

Charmion, what is a "a point-form list of duties"? A list, with bullets in front of the items?

Janie, there's something you don't mention, so I'd like to ask. Where are your patients going to go for services now? Can you go to the those places and submit your application without waiting for them to advertise for 'help wanted?'

Just think how effective it would be if you could say, "Johnny, Billie, Wendy and Samantha will be coming here as patients. I have been helping them for ______ years. They know and trust me."

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Janie
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 07:03 PM

I'm very sad and disturbed to say, leeneia, that the closing of the clinic will create a huge gap in the availability of psychiatry and psychotherapy in the rural, economically depressed community in which I work. Most of them will not be going anywhere for services unless they are stable and uncomplicated enough that their primary care providers can be convinced to take over medication management.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 09:33 PM

Janie-- you said you " probably need three slightly different resumes". Yep... depending on the place, send the 2 page synopsis, with the note that you have a longer, detailed version available 'if it will help them decide'. You are thus recognizing their problems in sorting thru many applications, and signaling that you are GOOD at recognizing the relevant issues of others in daily work. YOU are both competent and flexible... and you have the work experience and references to demonstrate this on request.

(if all you needed was some good words about your personal skills and basic character, you could just tell them to read a few hundred MudPosts.. *grin*)

You'll find something workable...

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 09:51 PM

Oh, Janie... How I feel your pain... I was still in social work when Reagan cut the Title XX money....

It sucks that people with lots of real world knowledge stuff in their heads being led by people with not-a-lot going in theirs...

Keep the FAITH...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 07:30 AM

With the difficulties of finding a job in the current economic conditions, there have been lots of articles on the web and elsewhere giving suggestions about "how to write a resume."

A little research at news, and particularly "business news" sites might find some clues to how things may have changed since the last time you needed to write one, but my impression is that most such articles are written by people who don't need a resume because they've already got a job writing about how to get a job. You may find some helpful hints, but I'd be reluctant to take most of the articles I've seen too seriously.

A suggestion that probably still is good is that you may help your prospects by "showing a specific interest" in the particular company/organization to which you're applying. Some indication that you actually know what their business is, and at least a brief statement about why "you'd be a good fit" might help.

Some people - in the past - have recommended that you should write a separate resume tailored to each application, but the "facts" of your past employment likely won't change much from one application to the next, so a descriptive resume with a brief "cover letter" stating why you're interested in the particular company is another option.

Some places do still have sites where they post "openings," and a look at whether there's information about what they think they need can at least help you decide what business they're wanting to do, and sometimes what "specialties" might tweak their interest. Knowing how the company describes itself sometimes can help you to use "their language" if that might be appropriate, but good business English is probably your best course for initial contacts.

Opinion in the past has been divided about whether it's worthwhile applying for specific openings (that may be filled by the time they look at your stuff) or whether you should "tell them what you've got to offer" and let them decide where to put you. The particular lines of work you're looking for may affect which works best.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Janie
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 07:23 PM

Thanks John. I've had some similar thoughts about the resume sites. some good information, but not ready to buy the ranch.

Researching the current markets and assessing my experience, strengths and skills, and looking at resume sites and suggestions on-line, I definitely need a spicier resume as opposed to 3 slightly different resumes, and to target the cover letter at the particular company.

I continue to appreciate the valuable information and feedback I am getting from folks.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 07 Jun 13 - 07:50 AM

Although it's aimed at "techie" job searches, some of the suggestions in a recently touted article might be something you could adapt to your search.

Tips for Resumes and Cover Letters.

Many of the tech companies are showing a preference for email cover letters and pdf resumes. That may not be the case for the kinds of jobs you're looking for. The "keywords" advice may only be applicable if you want to apply for a specific job that an employer has advertised (and described), although if you can describe a particular capability you offer "more than one way" (more than one job title?) it might attract attention.

More of "something to think about" than "instructions for" making your own resume.

As to how the youngsters are finding jobs now, another article claims to give you:

The Best Job Search Websites. (Click the "View all Photos at the bottom of the article.)

Some of the suggestions are a little surprising to old-timers like me, but again looking at where some people are looking may suggest approaches you wouldn't think of on your own (and might not want to think much of once you've thought of them?).

John

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 07 Jun 13 - 09:29 AM

I feel your pain, Janie, I'm about to look for a new job in the LA area (when my husband and I get back from our summer road trip). In my case, I have no one area of expertise. I often say I'm "jack of all trades and master of none". I have many skills that I've developed on my own, so I don't have any degree or certification to show for it. If a prospective employer looks or inquires deeply enough, they'll find that previous bosses have found me "a useful person to have about the place". But...

My other problem is not even knowing what line of work to start looking at in my job search.

I'll be returning to this thread later this summer to study up.

- Becky in South Haven, MI (on the road)

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: s&r
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 05:09 AM

First , use the network that you have already - ask friends and colleagues for info about potential vacancies where they work. get names of decision makers and address written stuff to them by name.

Second, cover letter is essential, one or two pages at most - should summarize main thrust of your request and skills. Nobody reads the whole thing unless youve sold yourself early on.

Good luck

Been there

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 05:28 AM

Your introduction letter attached to resume/CV might indicate that you are seeking to ease yourself down to retirement by taking fewer hours or smaller caseload, implying less pay. But still desiring to make the most of your skill and experience. It would take very careful wording.

I haven't had to do a CV in so long, I don't know if I could offer any help there.

Best of luck with this.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 06:04 AM

In my day job as a senior manager in a university library, I read hundreds and hundreds of job applications - some with resumes and some without - for over 30 years. We generally used formal application forms but, in latter years, allowed resumes. For some jobs we had between thirty and a hundred applications.

What did I look for?

Literate writing - accurate and to the point - free of jargon.
If handwritten - legible and free of crossings out.
Historical clarity - a concise, readable summary of past education and experience, relevant or not.
Most important - a clear and honest statement of why the applicant wanted our particular job and what skill they believed they could genuinely bring to it.

What put me off an application?

Meaningless phrases such as "I am a people person".
Obvious bullshit and waffle (you learn to pick it out).
A general resume which appeared to have no relationship to the job on offer.
People who were highly educated but believed that their qualifications alone entitled them to the job.

From those 30-100 applications we interviewed 6-8 people at most.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Andrez
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 06:56 AM

Hi Janie, I'm just finishing my MSW. I'm in Australia and have background in child protection and health working in remote areas and with Indigenous communities. Am currently on National Social Policy committee and looking to do similar after MSW or go back to remote areas working across partnership, program development and operational planningin child and family domain for major NGO.

I'd be happy to talk about resumes etc in our field but would prefer to do so via PM rather than the publlc forum. I've only just scanned the thread so will go back ad read more closely. Happy to help a fellow social worker. Not sure if the thread clarifies what country or region you are in?

Cheers,

Andrez

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Janie
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 01:27 PM

Wishing you the best of luck, Becky, in your own job hunt. Sounds like you need a resume that really emphasizes you are a creative, multi-skilled, innovative go-getter.

Comments here have been helpful in reframing my thinking about what a modern resume is, and in sorting out the marketing from truly helpful information on all the assorted websites regarding resume building.

Have just drafted a new resume that focuses on my post-master's career in mental health, and especially on clinical work. Have sent it out to a few people who offered to critique it, and have asked a few others with experience in hiring if they will also take a look. Much more concise than my old resume. Less than 1 1/2 pages. Focuses on skills and experience vs. detailed description of job duties. Also tried to write it so that I can adapt it fairly quickly to emphasize skills and experiences that I think might be most valuable to a particular company, agency or position.

Feedback will tell.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: GUEST,Lavengro
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 02:34 PM

Hi Janie,

I hope this will be of some help and not confuse things? I too have a Mental Health background, mostly in crisis intervention both community based and managing units. I did have a career shift a couple of years ago, but am still within the social care field and recently had to move to find work after redundancy.

I have found that some organisations I have worked for do not take account of covering letters when they ask for a CV/Resume.

The advice I had was to put a "personal summary" as the first heading on a CV. Mine is eight lines long and covers who I am and what I have (recently) done. It took me about four drafts!

I personally think that giving someone a real feel for who you are at the outset (especially in mental health) is important. If you make it obvious that you genuinely value people and have the skills to help them no one (worth their salt) will give a stuff about your age.

Good luck and positive thoughts your way!!

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Suzy Sock Puppet
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 03:28 PM

And make sure you get the point across to your prospective employer that, although you have been comfortable in the role of administrator, you find direct practice more gratifying and would prefer to focus your efforts there. In that way, you will be indirectly offering an explanation as to why you are willing to accept a position with less pay.

And whatever ye do, don't tell 'em yer a pirate. Not to worry. Yer secret's safe here on Mudcat.

Yo ho!

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: GUEST,Ebbie
Date: 09 Jun 13 - 03:07 AM

Janie, I don't know how you would imply it in a resume- but I can tell you my own opinion on your qualifications. You take the time to think something through and your responses always reflect the compassion and insight and clarity you bring to a problem or issue.

You be fine, OK? Go get 'em.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 09 Jun 13 - 09:50 PM

Very well put, Ebbie!

Maybe she could include a quotes section like perfomers do?

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Janie
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 09:54 PM

A special thank you to Bruce/Peace, Annie and Dani for taking the time to review, edit and give me valuable feedback on the specific resume, and to Bruce for reviewing a particular cover letter.

The general comments and discussion here were also very useful in helping me think about and completely revamp the antique resume I had stored on this old computer. I've been dragging my feet on applying for other jobs - I so much want to be able to stay and see our patients and the clinic through to the best closure possible. I know I can't get most of them tucked in somewhere in the current healthcare climate of uncertainty and restricted services, but want to do what I can. I also know I have to pay attention to my own self-interest and need to keep working, not just for income, but for medical insurance.

I did send the resume out this weekend to a couple of "choice" positions, and to my surprise and delight, have been contacted by both places. My first ever telephone interview is scheduled for tomorrow. Have spent the evening learning about telephone interviews and preparing. Wish me me luck.

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 09:58 PM

You'll knock them out, Janie...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Argggh! Building a new resume
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 08:48 PM

Wishing you success, by which I mean offers for both jobs so you can pick the one that suits you best!