BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots

Subject: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Songwronger
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 06:30 PM

CDC Admits 98 Million Americans Received Polio Vaccine Contaminated With Cancer Virus

July 17, 2013

The CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) has quickly removed a page from their website, which is now cached here, admitting that more than 98 million Americans received one or more doses of polio vaccine within an 8-year span when a proportion of the vaccine was contaminated with a cancer causing polyomavirus called SV40. It has been estimated that 10-30 million Americans could have received an SV40 contaminated dose of the vaccine....

http://www.realfarmacy.com/cdc-admits-98-million-americans-received-polio-vaccine-contaminated-with-cancer-virus/

The above is from today. They act like this is some new discovery. The article below is from 2 years ago, and it talks about an interview with Dr. Maurice Hilleman that took place in 1997. He was interviewed for a PBS documentary on vaccines, but PBS edited out all the stuff about cancer and AIDS:


Merck vaccine scientist Dr. Maurice Hilleman admitted presence of SV40, AIDS and cancer viruses in vaccines

September 15, 2011

One of the most prominent vaccine scientists in the history of the vaccine industry -- a Merck scientist -- made a recording where he openly admits that vaccines given to Americans were contaminated with leukemia and cancer viruses. In response, his colleagues (who are also recorded here) break out into laughter and seem to think it's hilarious. They then suggest that because these vaccines are first tested in Russia, they will help the U.S. win the Olympics because the Russian athletes will all be "loaded down with tumors." (Thus, they knew these vaccines caused cancer in humans.)

Dr Edward Shorter: Tell me how you found SV40 and the polio vaccine.

Dr Maurice Hilleman: Well, that was at Merck. Yeah, I came to Merck. And uh, I was going to develop vaccines. And we had wild viruses in those days. You remember the wild monkey kidney viruses and so forth? And I finally after 6 months gave up and said that you cannot develop vaccines with these damn monkeys, we're finished and if I can't do something I'm going to quit, I'm not going to try it. So I went down to see Bill Mann at the zoo in Washington DC and I told Bill Mann, I said "look, I got a problem and I don't know what the hell to do." Bill Mann is a real bright guy. I said that these lousy monkeys are picking it up while being stored in the airports in transit, loading, off loading. He said, very simply, you go ahead and get your monkeys out of West Africa and get the African Green, bring them into Madrid unload them there, there is no other traffic there for animals, fly them into Philadelphia and pick them up. Or fly them into New York and pick them up, right off the airplane. So we brought African Greens in and I didn't know we were importing the AIDS virus at the time.

Miscellaneous background voices:...(laughter)...it was you who introduced the AIDS virus into the country. Now we know! (laughter) This is the real story! (laughter) What Merck won't do to develop a vaccine! (laughter)

http://www.naturalnews.com/033584_Dr_Maurice_Hilleman_SV40.html


Below is a link to a 10-minute Youtube video about the PBS documentary. Listen to the people laughing.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13QiSV_lrDQ

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 06:34 PM

Isn't it interesting that the polio vaccines were found by Drs. Salk and Sabin? One injected and one oral?

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: bobad
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 06:36 PM

From the CDC:

        
Cancer, Simian Virus 40 (SV40), and Polio Vaccine Fact Sheet

    SV40 is a virus found in some species of monkey.


    SV40 was discovered in 1960. Soon afterward, the virus was found in polio vaccine.


    More than 98 million Americans received one or more doses of polio vaccine from 1955 to 1963 when a proportion of vaccine was contaminated with SV40; it has been estimated that 10–30 million Americans could have received an SV40 contaminated dose of vaccine.


    SV40 virus has been found in certain types of cancer in humans, but it has not been determined that SV40 causes these cancers.


    The majority of scientific evidence suggests that SV40-contaminated vaccine did not cause cancer; however, some research results are conflicting and more studies are needed.


    Polio vaccines being used today do not contain SV40. All of the current evidence indicates that polio vaccines have been free of SV40 since 1963.

Additional Facts

    In the 1950s, rhesus monkey kidney cells, which contain SV40 if the animal is infected, were used in preparing polio vaccines. Because SV40 was not discovered until 1960, no one was aware in the 1950s that polio vaccine could be contaminated.


    SV40 was found in the injected form of the polio vaccine (IPV), not the kind given by mouth (OPV).


    Not all doses of IPV were contaminated. It has been estimated that 10–30 million people actually received a vaccine that contained SV40.


    Some evidence suggests that receipt of SV40-contaminated polio vaccine may increase risk of cancer. However, the majority of studies done in the U.S. and Europe which compare persons who received SV40-contaminated polio vaccine with those who did not have shown no causal relationship between receipt of SV40-contaminated polio vaccine and cancer.

More Information

    For in-depth information about SV40, polio vaccine, and cancer, see our frequently asked questions.
    National Immunization Hotline:
    English 1 [phone]
    Spanish 1 [phone]

Page last modified: October 22, 2007
Content source: Immunization Safety Office

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Jeri
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 07:30 PM

Gosh, it's dangerous out there!

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Songwronger
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 07:34 PM

Bill Gates And The SV40 Cancer-Causing Virus

6-22-11

The new (GMO-DNA) vaccines contain SV40....

http://rense.com/general94/bill.htm

An interesting article.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: bobad
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 07:39 PM

An interesting bio:

Jeff Rense is an American conspiracy theorist and radio talk-show host of the Jeff Rense Program, broadcast on US satellite radio via the Rense Radio Network and Internet radio.[1]

Rense's radio program and website, Rense.com, cover subjects such as 9/11 conspiracy theories,[2] UFO reporting, paranormal phenomena, Holocaust denial,[3] Zionism, tracking of new diseases and possible resultant pandemics, environmental concerns (see chemtrails), animal rights, possible evidence of advanced ancient technology, geopolitical developments and emergent energy technologies, complementary and alternative medicine among other subjects.

Wikipedia

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 08:39 PM

Thanks, bodad!

That pretty well explains Songwronger.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Greg F.
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 08:55 PM

Yet more Shit from ShitWringer.

Why is anyone paying attention , never mind responding?

Pounding salt down a rat hole would be more useful and rewarding.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Songwronger
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 09:17 PM

Well, I'm just trying to let you geezers know that you may have been stabbed with carcinogens. Laugh it off if you want. Die laughing, along with mad scientist Hilleman.

And new number crunching shows that "conspiracy theorists" are more sane than you spoon-fed government-infoed loonies. A google search below. Pick your own source, since whichever I draw from will be poopooed:

https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=conspiracy+theorists+more+sane&oq=conspiracy+theorists+more+sane&gs_l=hp.3..0l4.254844.

Enjoy your cancers. And don't question your doctor when he says it was caused by asbestos. lol. Chumps.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Songwronger
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 09:25 PM

Help me pick a source from there that you assholes consider "credible," so I can link to it when you start spouting your theories about how bin Laden brought down the twin towers from a cave.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 10:22 PM

Try the CDC, IOM, WHO, CMA, BMA, Cleveland Clinic, Mayo Clinic, Mass. General, NEJM and similar reputable sources for medical information.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 10:22 PM

It is true that initially, some polio vaccine was contaminated.

But Songwronger is a bit late with this. That was 50 years ago.

By the way, a huge meteor is due to impact the earth near the Yucatan peninsula and the resultant dust cloud will change the weather sufficiently to wipe out many species on earth.

Oh! Sorry! That was 65,000,000 years ago!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Greg F.
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 10:40 PM

Be afraid, Don ! Be very afraid!!!

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 10:41 PM

Guess I'm in deep poo... I've had both vaccines and had...

...polio...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 11:22 PM

I've never had the vaccine, but I did have polio when I was two years old.

But that was well before the vaccine came out.

Don Firth

P. S.   And for fun, I'd like to see Bill Gates sue both Rense and Songwronger (who can't hide behind a pseudonym because his IP address, like caller ID, is out there) until they squeak!

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 07:50 PM

And if the ***** hadn't had that big campaign to install modern plumbing everywhere in the country there would never have been a polio epidemic, and no vaccines would have been needed.

SUE THE !&%$^# PLUMBERS!!!

John

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 01:21 PM

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2010/07/01/polio-and-sanitation/

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 10:44 PM

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2010/07/01/polio-and-sanitation/

A good link. The article neglects mention of a factor considered in other reports:

There are apparently (at least) three variants of the polio virus, two of which are not generally paralytic, but infection with either of these confers immunity to all three, or at least attenuates the effects so that paralysis is uncommon even for the third variant.

As long as early exposure to all three was common, odds were good (maybe 2:1?) that one of the nonparalytic forms would occur before the paralytic one (and 2/3 of infections by the paralytic form would be ineffectual?). Sanitation upgrades pretty much eliminated early exposure to all three, so that every infection by the paralytic form resulted in disaster, and it reached "critical mass" to spread.

While many studies link the pandemic to a particular country where a government program rapidly upgraded sanitation causing an abrupt drop in immunities, the same result could have happened, albeit perhaps less abruptly, with similar improvements over longer time spans almost anywhere; and the report linked suggests that it is still a hazard in some places.

Modern plumbing looked good on paper. Maybe we should ban paper.

John

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 12:31 AM

Whenever Don gets a post with a link, and he doesn't like it, he always attacks the link, and how that source is not credible....as if he IS!!???..Then you have 'Greg F' yapping right behind him, like a little lap dog...more than likely a Chihuahua! Scroll back..and notice the pattern...then check out other threads!

Just an observation...

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: GUEST,Red Queen
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 01:09 AM

GfS, don't talk about cancer. Play a song. You're not dying. Neither am I. Make a joke. Stop talking about this. It's not going to do any of us any good.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 01:53 AM

Don't be an ass, Goofball!

(Oh, sorry, I shouldn't ask the impossible of anybody.)

This happens to be a subject that I know a great deal about. So just shut up!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: GUEST,Red Queen
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 02:13 AM

Don, you better stop with the goofball before I cop an attitude. I'm not about to take insults lightly.

And Socrates was an anarchist. Plain and simple. You go fight a couple of wars. Let's see what you think. Don't talk about Socrates. He's a soldier turned philosopher. Leave him in peace.

And sure, he drank the poison hemlock. Big deal. He was ready to go.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 02:16 AM

LOL....I'm startin' to like this 'Red Queen'!....though, at first I had my reservations.....

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 02:19 AM

If you Google the title of that report that our named troll has posted, you won't find any credible news sources repeating it, only the lunatic fringe and yellow rag-type sites that repeat this shit. Typical of the reading Songwronger does.

Move along. There is nothing to see here.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 02:27 AM

What report are you talking about? 'Greg F' didn't post one, as far as I could see....

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: GUEST,Red Queen
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 02:35 AM

Yup Sage, there's no rhyme or reason; nothing to worry about. We should live life happily. When something sad comes to our doorstep, that's the time we should start to worry. That may sound Irish. In fact, I know it was taught to me. Don't borrow trouble. It will come soon enough, Grandma said, "Don't worry. It's a waste of time my dear girl."

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Songwronger
Date: 23 Jul 13 - 11:16 PM

If you Google the title of that report that our named troll has posted, you won't find any credible news sources repeating it, only the lunatic fringe and yellow rag-type sites that repeat this shit. Typical of the reading Songwronger does.

Move along. There is nothing to see here.

Just noticed that. Were you born stupid or have vaccines fucked up your cognitive abilities, Maggie?

As the original post points out, and provides a link to (here's another one), the announcement about the cancerous polio vaccines appeared on the CDC's own website. That's one of YOUR trusted sources. You have big faith in big government, so what's with the hostile animus here? I'm referencing straight to one of your lying trusted sources.

And the reason news like this isn't reported by outlets like your beloved NPR is because it goes against the interests of big business. Your NPR, FOX, PBS, ABC, CBS, NBC are all tools of the government. Rule of thumb, when they're all reporting on Trayvon Martin, it's a distraction; when they're not reporting on cancerous polio vaccines, it's news.

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restored --- mudelf

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jul 13 - 02:10 AM

Well, Charles, your "Natural News" link is a site for anyone who wants to play reporter to post what they want, no peer review. It's wide open to every nut out there. That story title also appears on the compiler "Gather.com" and the appropriately named "Lunatic Outpost." And really whacked out sites like the bogus "medicalvaccinereview.org" that includes the news that the 1918 Spanish Flu was caused by vaccines. . .

Give Me A Break. You need a filter. The page you want has been removed, there is no there there. You can call news outlets tools all you want, but your opinion holds no water - you can't seem to tell the difference between FAUX and NPR, between The New York Times and "NaturalNews."

I had one of those polio vaccines when I was a kid, the era you're reporting on. I'm not worried. I have enough friends who actually HAD polio back then that I know darned well the risk was worth it, the risk has passed, and the remote possibility that you're trying to blow into a crisis is just that - remote.

SRS

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restored --- mudelf

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Songwronger
Date: 24 Jul 13 - 10:18 PM

Bump, because Silly River Sage removed my last post.

In that post I pointed out that the story I originally referenced comes from the CDC, one of her revered big government propaganda outlets. She claims I cite from, what is it... "yellow rag-type sites that repeat this shit."

You're a disgrace as a "moderator," Maggie. The vaccines have rotted your brain.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Jul 13 - 10:42 PM

Old news, Songwronger.

There was a bad batch back about 1960. Long since removed from distribution.

Are you a pathological scare-monger? Looking at the threads you've started, it would appear so.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jul 13 - 11:43 PM

Personal attacks are not something we like to feature on mudcat threads, Songwronger. You keep threatening to pull the troll card out of your sleeve. I'm going to restore the last two posts - you have no moral high ground here, no scientific breakthrough to share. You have a 60+ year old non-story you're trying to tart up to get people to react to.

Keep threatening me.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jul 13 - 11:50 PM

Let's see Songwronger try to play the polio vaccine scare card, Don. Tell him what you know about polio, and what a horrid risk we took when my parents (your friends John and Carol) signed the permission slip for the public health immunization at school when the four of us were kids. You're one of a handful of people I know of my generation and older who HAD polio. Would you have taken this shot, with the horrid risk Songwronger-the-fool would like to suggest, if you knew it would have prevented your polio? How tall would you be if you could stand straight without crutches? Without a leg to stand on, do you see that Songwronger has a leg to stand on in this absurd thread he has started?

You asked for it, Charles.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 02:54 PM

Read this, Songwronger, and read it well!

I don't remember because I was too young at the time, but my parents told me that I was a healthy, husky kid, and once I had taken my first steps, I used to run around the house just for the sheer exuberance of it.

Then, when I was two years and three months old, I contracted poliomyelitis, known in those days as "infantile paralysis." After the disease ran its course, my legs were paralyzed. No more running. No more walking. Anywhere I went, I had to either crawl like a baby or be carried by one of my parents. For any long distances, even though I was no longer an infant, and getting heavier to carry, my parents pushed me in a baby carriage.

When I was about five or six, several times a week, my mother drove me to a physical therapy sanitarium in a nearby city (we were living in Southern California at the time) where I was fitted with leg braces (heavy steel things with lots of leather straps and buckles that locked my legs straight) and taught to walk, slowly and laboriously, with canes, carefully swinging each leg forward for each step.

When the other kids, my sisters and kids from the neighborhood, were playing in the front yard (tag, hide-and-seek, kick-the-can, cowboys and Indians, etc.), I sat on the front porch and watched.

At the age of six, my parents made arrangements with the local school district to enroll me in its home teaching program—for kids like me. They sent a teacher to our house about three times a week for a couple of hours, so I got a lot of personal attention from the teacher. But none of the socialization of attending school with other kids. In addition to doing my homework, I spent a lot of time belly-flopped on the living room rug reading or drawing. I read a lot of books for a kid my age, and I got to be a pretty good cartoonist.

I had physical therapy on and off for the next several years (I was taught to swim, and swam a lot), until it was deemed I could get around well enough to go to public school. I began attending Seattle's Roosevelt High School in my junior year. I graduated, then enrolled at the University of Washington as an English Literature major, specifically in "Creative Writing."

In high school and on into college, although I had lots of friends, it didn't take me long to learn that normal dating or having a steady girl friend was going to be pretty dicey. I was a good-looking kid (if I do say so myself), but it's a bit unnerving to ask a girl for a date and, as she turns you down for one feeble reason or another, you know perfectly well she just doesn't want to go out with someone who's galumphing around on crutches. Or repeatedly hearing those dreaded but trite words, "Can't we just be friends?"

One steady girl friend I did have when I was at the U. of W. was the girl who got me seriously interested in folk music in the first place. Claire was bright and intelligent and could see beyond the obvious externals. We went together for a couple of years before she graduated and had to move to another city. And, yes, I've had other girl friends, all of whom, I am happy to say, were less interested in externals than they were in matters of intelligence, character, and shared interests.

My wife is such a woman. We both write. We both love music of all kinds. We share many values. But I didn't meet her until I was in my forties.

There was a great deal I was not able to do. In high school and college, sports were out. I will never climb Mount Everest or scale El Capitan.

But there was a lot I could do. I have worked at a number of jobs. All at a desk, or drawing table, or a radio studio broadcast board.

And the physical handicap did not interfere with my performing folk music. For years, I did concerts, television, sang several evenings a week in clubs or coffee houses, attended folk festivals, and made a halfway decent living at it.

Have you ever seen violinist Itzhak Perlman on television or in concert? He had polio when he was young. He walks on stage lumbering along on his crutches and heavy leg braces, sits down on a chair, and someone hands him his violin and bow.

That's the way I did it also.

I'm older now, and feeling the effects of what is known as "post-polio syndrome." My shoulders will no longer carry my weight, so I get around in a wheelchair. And the scoliosis (lateral spinal curvature) that was one of the "leftovers" from polio is bothering me quite a bit these days. Pain in the back and around the rib cage, which is deformed because of the curvature.

When I was in my twenties, I spent the better part of two years in a physical therapy sanitarium in Denver, Colorado, undergoing exercises, massage, hydrotherapy, spinal traction, and anything else they could think of to try to alleviate the aftereffects of poliomyelitis—and I saw a number of other young people there with the same thing I had, including two teen aged girls, who would never have the normal life of a teen aged girl. If she's getting around slowly with crutches and leg braces, or in a wheelchair, nobody much is going to ask her to a "sock hop" or the senior prom.

Oh! How tall would I be if I hadn't had polio? Hard to say. But my father and a couple of uncles were over six feet. My father was 6'2". And my son is about the same height. They say that your height (Leonardo da Vinci's carefully measured anatomy charts revealed this early on) should equal your "wing span." Arms outstretched on either side, measuring from fingertip to fingertip. My "wing span" is 6'2". My height is about 5'9". Proportionately, my legs are shorter that they should be, judging from the size of my upper torso.

I'm not into such wastes of time and energy as self-pity. You play the cards you are dealt. On the one hand, I missed a great deal by not being "able bodied." But I probably had a better education than I would have had, because when others were out playing sports or other such physical activities, I read. And I wrote. I've had several magazine articles published. Or in my early twenties and on, practiced a great deal on the guitar and learned songs and classic guitar pieces.

Songwronger (and anyone else who has stuck with this), would I have taken the risk of possibly getting cancer if I knew it would have prevented me from contracting polio?

Knowing what I know now—unequivocally—YES!

Considering the effectiveness of the polio vaccine—having virtually wiped out polio in those parts of the world where it is being administered—and considering the low incidence of cancer in those who received the contaminated vaccine--it is morally reprehensible to try to frighten people into NOT getting the shot, especially now when the vaccine is NOT contaminated, and anyone who dissuades someone from getting the shot bears moral responsibility for the outcome if someone DOES contract polio as a result of their fearfully refusing the vaccine when available because of someone such as you promulgating misinformation about it.

Songwronger—better read "Scaremonger"—be aware of the moral responsibilities that go with the misinformation you are callously and thoughtlessly spouting!

Don Firth (been there, got the T-shirt!)

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: bobad
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 03:20 PM

Well said Don Firth, I take my hat off to you.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Lighter
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 03:38 PM

If the vaccines caused cancer, and tens of millions of people were vaccinated in the U.S. alone, there should have been an enormous and otherwise inexplicable jump in the incidence of cancer in the sixty years since then.

Where is it?

Nowhere.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: GUEST,Musket curious
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 03:51 PM

When I read of health scare stories in The USA I worry. Mainly because other than New England Journal of Medicine, we don't take American news at face value our side of thr pond due to the lack of independence of study. NHS trusts have to, by law, take published guidance into account. The reference within HSCA 2008 states only the one American source as being valid at face value. Considering the cutting edge innovation over there, that's a sad reflection.   I note our errant MMR criminal now works in research in Texas. ..

So!

When I see a thread like this, I don't know what to think. However, I find that reading who started it and who is posting helps. Songewronger lacks credibility in just about everything I read of him. So.. who else do I look for?

Hi Goofus!   

Keep banging the rocks together.

Subject: RE: BS: CDC - Millions of Cancerous Polio Shots
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 07:24 PM

The "news" is condensed and designed to catch the eye. One must follow up by reading further.
There are several good websites with health and medical information; the Mayo Clinic and NHS are reliable. Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine are two of the peer-reviewed medical journals; there are many others publishing medical research.

Never depend upon blogs or recommendations posted in Mudcat or other talk or gossip "BS."
And listen carefully to the recommendations of your physician.

People like Songwronger are dangerous.
Mudcat does a disservice by permitting him to post his alarmist, ignorant bilge.