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Subject: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Songwronger Date: 15 Aug 13 - 11:43 PM GOP lawmaker: House has votes to impeach Obama 'tomorrow' GOP Rep. Blake Farenthold (Texas) said House Republicans have enough votes to impeach President Obama, but warned the effort to remove him from office would be unsuccessful and could damage the country. "If we were to impeach the president tomorrow, you could probably get the votes in the House of Representatives to do it," Farenthold said at an Aug. 10 town-hall meeting. In a video of the event, Farenthold is shown responding to a constituent who asked if he would support an investigation into whether Obama forged his birth certificate. Farenthold initially expressed regret that Congress did not more closely examine Obama's eligibility for the presidency during the 2008 campaign, and then sought to explain why Republicans had not pursued impeachment. The Texas lawmaker said the country would be harmed if the House voted to impeach Obama but the Democratic-controlled Senate failed to remove him from office. "What message do we send to America if we impeach Obama and he gets away with what he's impeached for and is found innocent?" Farenthold said. Farenthold pointed to the failed effort to remove then-President Clinton from office in 1998. "As a result of impeaching President Clinton, we've redefined what sex is to a lot of our young people, and we've said that it's OK to lie to Congress," warned Farenthold.... http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/316649-gop-lawmaker-house-has-votes-to-impeach-obama-tomorrow Forget the birth certificate. Obama's violated his oath to the constitution hundreds of times. Prosecute him for his treasons and murders. Clinton was an arch criminal, but they dogged him over a blowjob. Obama's an enemy of the republic, but they (even his Republican "opponents") act like the birth certificate is the only thing they could pursue. We have a one-party system pretending to be two-party. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Ebbie Date: 15 Aug 13 - 11:46 PM "What message do we send to America if we impeach Obama and he gets away with what he's impeached for and is found innocent?" Farenthold said." hahahhahah You are so funny. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Don Firth Date: 16 Aug 13 - 12:03 AM Songwronger, you're sick. Get help! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: LadyJean Date: 16 Aug 13 - 12:57 AM In 1998 I made myself a promise. I will vote Democratic. I will vote Green. I will vote Socialist. I will vote Raging Rhino, if someone organizes a branch of the Raging Rhino Party in the states. But I will NEVER vote for a Republican again. My parents and grandparents were Republicans. But their party is gone. The Republican Party is no longer the Party of Lincoln, they are the party of Nixon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: JohnInKansas Date: 16 Aug 13 - 01:26 AM Medications could help. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Aug 13 - 02:48 AM Obama isn't the problem, SW, he's just the temporary figurehead for the angry people who don't like him and the Obama supporters who do like him to focus on, which is what most presidents are and have been in the past. They're figureheads. And he IS temporary. Keep that in mind. The corrupt system of ruling elites that controls him and controls BOTH of the 2 big parties and the main media outlets is NOT temporary, and it is unassailable through the ballot box. The 2 big parties are quite different from one another...in style, belief, and rhetoric...because that is how the public can be most easily divided into 2 powerless and irreconcilable blocs of fearful, confused, angry people who hate and despise and constantly denigrate one another over their differing party loyalties. That keeps them distracted, which is the point of why it's done that way. Their perpetually divided state ensures that the system of rich elites which rules over them remains, in effect, invisible to them and unassailable. If Obama were removed from office it would not solve the problems facing the nation any more than removing Mubarak or Morsi has solved the problems facing Egypt! It's not a question of removing one man, because the one man isn't responsible for the situation, and he will just be replaced quickly by some other man. It is the system of elites itself that must be removed to alter the situation. Who are those elites? They are the richest billionaires, bankers, CEOs of the biggest corporations, top military people, and top intelligence community people (such as in the CIA). You can't touch them through the ballot box. Obama is not in charge of them. They are in charge of him...and they would eliminate him right quick if he attempted to change anything fundamental in terms of the present ruling systems of power and control....or if he even talked openly about doing so. It's an oligarchy, not a democracy. Obama is not the problem. Replacing him would change practically nothing in any real sense. Impeaching him would be a meaningless partisan exercise that would accomplish nothing except to replace him with another so-called "leader" to blame everything on, which would again miss the point entirely. The "leader" is not the problem. The system itself is the problem, and you cannot vote it in or out of office as things stand. Nor can you bring it down through armed resistance, because it's too well armed for that. What you can do is stop believing in it. That's step 1. Without step 1, step 2, 3 or 4 in bringing it down can't even happen. Millions of people must first stop believing in and being fooled by the overall ruling system before anything significant can be changed. And that's very difficult to accomplish. But it's not impossible. And no bloodshed is needed to do it. Nonviolent resistance, in fact, is the only sane way possible to end that system as far as I'm concerned, but it would have to be action taken simultaneously by many millions of people to succeed. I don't much expect to see that happen. The chances appear slim. But it still might happen...eventually. It depends on how bad things get and how long people remain asleep. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: catspaw49 Date: 16 Aug 13 - 04:25 AM Said it before Hawk.......The only way to break any political methodology is through revolution. Ain't gonna' happen for quite awhile though but it is at least developing. Til then I just try to put any effort I have into making it better however futile. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Wesley S Date: 16 Aug 13 - 08:21 AM What a bunch of crybabies. What I don't understand about the Impeach Obama crowd is what they hope to gain. Even if he was impeached the result would be - President Joe Biden. Do they think that President Biden would be a massive improvement over Obama? Their "cause" would be better served if they stopped their whining - put on their big boy panties - and put their energy into electing a candidate they approved of. Ted Cruz? Rand Paul? |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Wesley S Date: 16 Aug 13 - 08:31 AM Oh - and what the House does on it's own is meaningless. They've already voted to repeal Obamacare { AKA the Affordable Healthcare Act } no less than 40 times. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Greg F. Date: 16 Aug 13 - 09:25 AM Another Texas asshole of assholes. Who cares? The Repubs ain't the party of Nixon. Nixon was a criminal and a slimeball, but he DID have a brain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Bobert Date: 16 Aug 13 - 09:43 AM Nothing that this corrupt Republican House of Representatives does surprises me anymore... Nothing!!! They hate America and do everything they can to make it fail so, hey, impeachment ain't much different... Actually, I wish they would try it... Or do it... That would be the straw that broke the camel's back and make that 7% that the Dems have to win by in the popular vote in order to overcome the most gerrymandered House in over a century look do-able... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: GUEST,DMcG Date: 16 Aug 13 - 02:50 PM To make things worse, these people don't even understand what a birth certificate is: they behave as if it is a piece of paper (and so easily forgeable), whereas in fact it is one tiny element of a huge interconnected bureaucratic system with, for example, sequential reference numbers that can't be altered without impacting things around them, in computer systems with historical backups and lots of people involved. "Forgery" is a completely irrelevant activity in that context, and so easy to expose that it wouldn't last more than a few hours before it was exposed. Of course, one alternative would be to use some existing birth certificate for a real person. In which case why not pick someone whose families had been in some mid state for generations? |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: GUEST Date: 16 Aug 13 - 03:32 PM Obama is actually a Chinese sent to completely fuck the USA and Texas. He has no real birth certificate, but if you look near the right side of his asshole you can find the serial number. From there trace it to the point of manufacture and that is all you have to do. Ten digit serial numbers ending in 123 were made in Afghanistan. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: gnu Date: 16 Aug 13 - 03:59 PM JiK... "Medications could help." I think yer gonna need a heavy medication. Say, an eight pound maul and as many doses in rapid succession as possible? |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 16 Aug 13 - 04:26 PM Little Hawk nails it as usual. Don being mean and judgmental towards Songwronger again. Shocked and saddened I am. Shocked and saddened. Awk! |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: akenaton Date: 16 Aug 13 - 04:57 PM If Mr Obama was to be impeached, surely it would be for his tacit support of the Egyptian Military Coup and the murder of hundreds of unarmed civilians. I cant believe the hypocrits are going to keep supplying billions of dollars in aid and arms to a regime which has just overthrown an elected govt and committed murder of hundreds of civilians in full view of the world. Doesn't this shake the faith in "democracy" of the Mudcat "liberals". Yes I mean you Bobad!.....and the rest! |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Don Firth Date: 16 Aug 13 - 07:33 PM Suzy Sock Puppet, what inspires me to be "mean and judgmental towards Songwronger again," as you put it, is Songwronger's obsessive hatred for President Obama, and his compulsion to post some new and scurrilous attack on him almost every day. Most of what he posts is from extreme Right Wing websites, the same kind that started out by beating the "birther" drum, claiming that Obama is a Muslim, was born in Kenya, and all that. When I see a thread title like the above, it doesn't take much to figure out right off who started it. It's rampant misinformation, it's an egregious waste of space, and it gets bloody tiresome! Now, I'm not entirely thrilled with what President Obama has been able to accomplish while in office. But I'm also aware of the kind of vicious opposition he's had to try to buck, and it's promulgated by people like Songwronger. If anybody is "mean" here, it's Songwronger. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Bobert Date: 16 Aug 13 - 07:43 PM What Don says... The wrongman is the Grand Wizard of MudKK... Nothing but hatred... What next will wrongman do here... Burn a few crosses??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 16 Aug 13 - 08:02 PM How many times does it need to be said - it wouldn't make any difference where Obama was born, because it wouldn't alter the fact that he's a natural born American by virtue of his mother. My impression from here is that Nixon would be repudiated as a "liberal" by much of your Republican party. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 16 Aug 13 - 08:05 PM Funny, I did not take him for a right-winger. You sure about that? |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Bobert Date: 16 Aug 13 - 08:11 PM Yes, Suzy... I've been around here a long time... I am a 60s radical... I am a leftist... Wrongman has only one story: Hate Obama... Click on his name and see his history here... One Obama hate thread after another... I don't think he has ever started a thread that wasn't about Obama hatred... Square business... The guy is eat up with Obama hate... Oh... He tries to paint himself as some leftist revolutionary... BS... I am a leftist revolutionary and he ain't one of us... He is the KKK... And you can take that to the bank... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: gnu Date: 16 Aug 13 - 08:42 PM Impeach Obama? Thank goodness history didn't repeat itself eh? Oh... yeah... sheeeit! |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: gnu Date: 16 Aug 13 - 08:48 PM That fucker Ronnie stole untold $. Bush pulled the same scam. And the same bunch a dickwads wanna bend over Obama? Sommat just ain't right in some people's heads. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Bobert Date: 16 Aug 13 - 08:53 PM Thank you, Gn-ze... Yes, Reagan is the crook of all crooks... Too bad that the Republicans knew this so they "Rove'd" him into St. Ronnie... Yup, this has Karl Rove drippin' from it... Attack your enemies strengths and take your guys weaknesses and turn them into strengths... Reagan is the worst president since Hoover... Busted the American Labor Movement and spent like a drunken sailor leaving the largest deficit ever recorded by a non-post-war president in the history of the United States... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 16 Aug 13 - 10:46 PM Definitely with Reagan, things started to spiral downwards. Rich getting richer.And the poor? You know the deal. He undid victories that were hard won. Big fat downer indeed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Songwronger Date: 16 Aug 13 - 11:31 PM I'm a moderate. Obama is an extremist. Bobert's an extremist. Some reasons to impeach Obama: 252 Well-Sourced Obama "Issues" Every president I've lived under in my life should have been impeached. They all violated their oaths to the constitution. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Don Firth Date: 17 Aug 13 - 12:07 AM Just like I said: Right Wing websites, blogs, and all of that. In my e-mail every morning I get a number of politically oriented newsletters of all persuasions because I like to keep up on who's saying what about whom and which. The sort of stuff Songwronger posts comes from extreme Right Wing sources, particularly any piece that attempts to trash President Obama. Songwronger is not the only one in the world. There are lots of people out there who--frankly, I think, are more upset by Obama's race than by his political policies. But they haven't the guts to admit that that is why they hate him so much. If they react this way to the first Black president, think of how they will respond to the first woman president! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: LadyJean Date: 17 Aug 13 - 12:12 AM I was born in the city of Pittsburgh, daughter of a lawyer and a lawyer's daughter. I lived the first 31 years of my life without owning a copy of my birth certificate. I found out I didn't have one when I applied for a passport. I then went through beurocratic runaround as only the Commonwealth of Pennsyvlania can do it, and got a copy. The original is lodged someplace in some file, somewhere. Oh, by the way, to get a U.S. Passport you have to show a birth certificate. To get a Pennsylvania driver's license you have to produce one. I figured Mr. Obama must have had to produce his a couple of dozen times before he even thought of running for president. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Don Firth Date: 17 Aug 13 - 12:44 AM When the "birthers" started their campaign against Obama, he produced his birth certificate. The birthers had a wall-eyed fit and wouldn't accept it because it said "Certificate of Live Birth" at the top. "That," they said, "is not a birth certificate!!" and redoubled their rants. The Governor of Hawaii said that "that IS the official birth certificate of the State of Hawaii!" But that didn't stop the birthers. They just ignored the governor and went right on with their slanders. Even if Obama hadn't been born in the United States (and Hawaii is the fiftieth state), it wouldn't have made any difference, even if he had been born in Kenya or Indonesia as some of the birthers try to claim, because his mother, born in the state of Kansas, IS and American citizen. And the child of an American citizen is automatically a citizen, no matter where they are born. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: GUEST Date: 17 Aug 13 - 04:27 AM I'm with Don Firth, Bobert and Little Hawk on this. My current bottom line (one of them, anyway) is that I'm thankful we aren't invading other countries for no reason whatsoever. I'm also glad Halliburton is out of the White House. I'm glad we're moving in the right direction with regards to marriage rights. It's nice as a country to not be the object of scorn of much of the world. It's nice to have someone in the White House whose motto isn't "Ready, Fire, Aim." |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Elmore Date: 17 Aug 13 - 05:35 AM Impeach Obama. Right. Go for it. Then President Clinton will have majorities in both the House and the Senate. Cool. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 17 Aug 13 - 06:51 AM In reality, the House "has enough votes to impeach" a president at any time the House majority and the president are of opposing parties. A bill of impeachment only requires approval by a simple majority (50%+1) of House members. If that were all that was involved in an impeachment, ousting presidents for purely partisan reasons would be a commonplace occurrence. The reason impeachment happens so rarely (only twice in 200+ years, and neither case resulting in conviction) is that the second part of the process, the actual trial, takes place in the Senate, where conviction requires approval by a 2/3 majority of senators. Getting 66 of 100 senators to vote for removal of a president is almost impossible unless there is clear evidence of criminal wrongdoing. The only time in US history there has been enough evidence that a conviction was likely, the miscreant resigned from office instead of facing impeachment. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: GUEST Date: 17 Aug 13 - 11:20 AM Should read 67 of 100 senators. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Bobert Date: 17 Aug 13 - 12:42 PM With the wacko TeaKK'ers on the House of Reps here is a list of other things they may be considering: 1. Outlawing the Democratic Party... 2. Declaring the earth to be flat... 3. Making vaccines illegal... 4. Making it a crime to contract cancer... 5. Killing all renewable energy... 6. Declaring war on sanity... 7. Repealing the American Constitution... 8. Appointing Rush Limbaugh King... 9. Seceding from the United Sates and... ...10. Declaring NASCAR the national sport... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 17 Aug 13 - 06:15 PM Bee-dubya-ell, thanks for the info. Songwronger, you are right! They are all in violation. Can you say Military-Industrial Complex? Pentagon, that's who's in charge of the Executive Branch. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 17 Aug 13 - 06:35 PM Hey Songwronger, what think you of this? |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 17 Aug 13 - 06:38 PM Oops! I meant to click the blicky and mindlessly hit submit. Here it is: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA–al-Qaeda_controversy |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Don Firth Date: 17 Aug 13 - 07:42 PM I recommend that one read the whole link, including "Opposing View." These are the things that Songwronger generally leaves out. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Bobert Date: 17 Aug 13 - 08:06 PM The wrongman does NOT do the whole story, Don... He'll take 5% + his right winged Republican blogs and create an entire parallel universe of mythology... But looks as if he has lured Suzy Sock Puppet6 into his lure... Yes, the House of Representatives, with their TeaKK contingency, have the votes to pass nay stupid thing they want... Here's food for thought, Suze... Guess which party carried the popular vote for the House of Representatives national wide in the last election??? And then look at the composition of the House... Where is the "democracy" in that... Maybe you are okay with rigged elections... I am not... BTW, worngman is perfectly happy with rigged elections... He has never complained about minority tyranny... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 18 Aug 13 - 01:05 PM Nah. No one has lured me. Besides, I'm much more fond of you. Not happy with the Pentagon but I have come to feel bad for the president. I've never seen any president given such a hard time as this one. George Bush was a clown and still got his propers. This one has to endure open disrespect which I interpret as racism. And now, back on health care again! Unbelievable. It is THEIR plan! It just goes to show that he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Don Firth Date: 18 Aug 13 - 02:18 PM Sounds like you've nailed it, Suzy. I've been inhabiting this planet for some time now, and I don't think I've ever seen any president treated in as downright nasty and obstructionist a fashion as the Republicans are treating Obama. With the possible exception of Franklin D. Roosevelt, who, although he was wealthy himself, cared about people and the country as a whole, put people back to work with the WPA, the CCC, and other agencies, and basically ended the Great Depression, brought on in the first place by the Republican policy of allowing the Robber Barons to do anything they wanted, and started a bunch of regulatory agencies, such as the Securities and Exchange Commission that required Wall Street and its mignons to behave themselves, stop playing Robin Hood in reverse and ripping people off. They hated FDR because he was for the people in general, not just the fat-cats. Obama is no FDR, unfortunately, but he's doing his best. But--of course, getting stonewalled at every turn. Impeach Obama? No! Throw most of Congress out and get in some decent people who CARE about the people, not just the bloated rich! And in addition to Obama's being a Democrat and trying to initiate some programs that will allow the United States to catch up with the rest of the civilized world--such as a decent health care program--one of the reasons many people are against him is they can't stand the thought of some uppity If they react this way to him, how do you think they might react to a Democrat who happens to be a woman running the country? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 18 Aug 13 - 03:25 PM I for one hope that there will be a Democrat who happens to be a woman running the country. I've been a longtime admirer of both Clintons. If she gets in there, she's going to be tough! Even as the 2008 "economic crisis" was unfolding (and they were looting the coffers), Bill was making television appearances, explaining what should be done for Americans and a lot of it was based on FDR strategy during the depression. We can learn from history right? But the people who are dead set on pushing this country in the wrong direction, don't want to know about any of that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Bobert Date: 18 Aug 13 - 07:53 PM Well, shucks, mam... Sniff... (Eat your heart out wrongman...) ***grin*** Yeah, Obama has seen the greatest level of obstructionism and hatred since Abraham Lincoln had to deal with the Southern Democrats back in 1860... Is it racism??? Well, yeah, it is... But it goes beyond just racism... The 1% are scared that their ballgame will be called... They have rigged the game so that if productivity of workers increases then the 1% takes all the increased profits... The working class has not seen a real increase in wages (after inflation) since 1983... Hmmmmm??? What happened in 1983??? Oh, that's right... Ronald Reagan became president... Well, what did Ronnie do??? He used the full force of the federal government to bust the Air Traffic Controllers Union which was like waving a big green flag for the 1% to bust unions and they have busted unions down from 30% in 1982 down to about 6% today... End result: The 1% has its boot heels on the American worker... What's next??? Those who know history know exactly what is next... The American Spring... Wronger and all of his right wing buddies won't change that no matter how much hate they heap on Obama... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 19 Aug 13 - 04:36 PM Bobert, I saw my friend Rev. Murray today. He didn't know if anything was happening on the 28th (probably not if he doesn't know about it) but roped me into church this Sunday and told me to bring my grandson who was with me at the time. I'll probably take him. Rev says they got kids there for him to play with (yes, he did say play :-) Going to church isn't necessarily fun but it is in a black church. Lots of music. Ever been? |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Bobert Date: 19 Aug 13 - 09:23 PM Well, Suze... Just Google up Trayvon Martin Protest _________________ (your closest city)... I thought that a lot of these were going to coincide with the 50th anniversary of Dr, King's "I Have a Dream" speech??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Songwronger Date: 20 Aug 13 - 12:01 AM Punk rocker Glenn Danzig just came out with this statement about Obama and Democrats in general: "My view on Democrats is that they're fascists disguised as liberals, or liberal moderates. You're not allowed to say anything that they don't agree with. You're not allowed to do anything. Also, the whole Obama, 'I can kill anybody with a drone with no trial,' is kind of disturbing. I'm surprised that more people who are supposedly liberal aren't more disturbed by it. I think whatever Obama does is OK with them, because he's Obama. It's bulls–t." http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/08/19/danzig-liberals-fascists If anyone doubts that Democrats have turned into fascists like Danzig describes, read some of Herr Bobert's ravings. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Bobert Date: 20 Aug 13 - 08:25 AM Hahahahahaha.... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Don Firth Date: 20 Aug 13 - 02:11 PM Songwronger, for Chrissake, get a good textbook on political philosophy and read it! You are displaying your total ignorance of the field. You obviously don't even know what the words mean! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: akenaton Date: 20 Aug 13 - 02:36 PM I tend to agree with most of the comments in Songwronger's link. Tho' I think most of the folks here are basically socialist, they are afraid of the term and cleave to what they see as the lesser of two evils ....Mr Obama and the Democrats; this leads them up the blind alley of support for a govt who's foreign policy is the exact opposite of liberalism. |
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Subject: RE: BS: House of Reps has Votes to Impeach Obama From: Bobert Date: 20 Aug 13 - 03:58 PM I'm a socialist, Ake... I think the United Sates could kick some serious ass in terms of providing for its people if it were a socialist country... The capitalists are crooks and corrupt... It is naive, however, to put this on Obama... Capitalism went haywire in 1982 in electing the biggest loser president in the last, well, maybe for ever... Ronald Reagan did not have one original thought in his senile head... He was nothing but a union busting corporate pig... Since his election and his waving the green flag on union busting (remember the Air Traffic Controllers Union?) the working class has been stuck treading water... Or drowning... You seem to give Obama a lot of power to overturn a 30 year war on the working class... Where's the magic wand that you must think that Obama has that can pull off that miracle??? I like you Ake but when it comes to your knowledge of American history, American government or American politics, you are eat up ignorant... Much like the wrongman... B~ |