BS: Why I am gone

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 03:20 AM

Actually, GUEST's contribution to the debate is not as inane as it sounds.

Suppose I was a male homosexual who was simply trying to raise awareness of the horrific disease rates pertaining to MSM and wishing to explore EFFECTIVE ways of combating HIV/AIDS within he demographic; would I be the most popular guy on the forum, or would I still be the butt of the disgusting abuse we have seen here?

It should not matter who flags up the serious problems.....facts is facts....get over it!

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 04:03 AM

Suppose I was a male homosexual who was simply trying to raise awareness of the horrific disease rates

If so I suggest that you would not be recommending compulsory testing.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 04:12 AM

""Don...very many people still die from AIDS, anti-viral therapy is much less beneficial if the disease is only diagnosed in "late stage".""

Of course people are still dying from infections acuired over maybe the last ten years.

You focus on rising numbers of infections and ignore the rapidly faling number of deaths.

What will tell the story is the number of deaths ten years from now among those infected this year.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 04:20 AM

But still, Don, it's better not to contract it if it can be avoided, isn't it? I don't think that the fact, that it is liable to have less severe ultimate consequences than previously, alters that essential fact.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 09:53 AM

DtG.....You purposely(I suppose), left out half of the sentence.

"and wishing to explore EFFECTIVE ways of combatting infection(and transmission), within the demographic."

The procedures used in the past and at present, have been completely INEFFECTIVE.

Try googling the LAG&L Centre for more innovation.
Everyone does not care to stick with political correctness.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 10:15 AM

DtG.....You purposely(I suppose), left out half of the sentence.

OK

I actually left off about two thirds of the sentence to try to put the point across succinctly so, yes, I suppose it was on purpose. My point is still the same.

If you was a male homosexual who was simply trying to raise awareness of the horrific disease rates pertaining to MSM and wishing to explore EFFECTIVE ways of combating HIV/AIDS within he demographic; would I be the most popular guy on the forum, or would I still be the butt of the disgusting abuse we have seen here?, I suggest that you would not be recommending compulsory testing.

Better?

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 10:22 AM

BTW - Just spotted a flaw in one of the arguments here. Some are saying that people leave because of nastiness and abuse. Ake seems to get more abuse than most but he is still here.

Just saying...

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 11:13 AM

Masochism Rules OK?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 11:56 AM

looking at this website who the fuck would want to talk to any of you people

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: kendall
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 12:04 PM

That's just what the people who have left thought.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 12:08 PM

Backwoodsman.....:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 12:18 PM

Actually, if we ignore all the swearing and abuse earlier on, it's turned into quite a good discussion.
I anyone doesn't like the subject which has evolved from Tia's departure, why open the thread and start grumbling?

These threads are of great interest to the membership, earlier ones ran into thousands of posts.....the facts of the issue have become pretty obvious to most, and because of the political bias of this particular group not so many want to put in their tuppence worth any more.

Still the serious problems remain, as our legislators try to cover the footprints.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 12:53 PM

The people haven't left. I think they went for the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" option and are now focusing on what they hate.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: kendall
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 06:30 PM

Olddude is gone and I miss him.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Oct 13 - 12:13 AM

Every once in a while I find it expedient or helpful [or whatever] to take a week or two off from the Cat; to charge batteries, simmer down from some pugnacious or contentious exchanges that might have occurred, see what has changed & dropped off and started when I come back, &c. You might think my absences would not be noticed; but once during one such brief sabbatical I got an actual e-mail asking anxiously if I was OK!

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Oct 13 - 03:29 AM

Well it's good that some folks here still have opinions and that the forum hasn't just evolved into the mindless mush encouraged by the media.
Do we really want to inhabit an online club with a discussion section restricted to "nice" subjects like gardening or sock darning?

This was one of the few places on the net that controversial subjects used to be discussed in an adult manner......lets keep it that way, don't be influenced by the exponents of political correctness.

We're not dead yet!!

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 Oct 13 - 04:24 AM

"This was one of the few places on the net that controversial subjects used to be discussed in an adult manner.....

That's just the problem though, and the reason so many people have gone - there are a group, 'The Usual Suspects' (and we all know who they are) who can't, or won't, discuss controversial topics in an adult manner. The sad thing is that most of them (not all, but most) are perfectly capable of civilised discussion and debate, but they prefer to go down the road of name-calling, abuse, insults, hysterical shrieks of "racist" or "bigot", or "Shut the fuck up", sneers about "invisible friends" and "superstition" - anything other than a carefully-considered discussion which would necessarily involve, not only an honest evaluation of others' positions, but also of their own, and an acceptance that they themselves can be wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 Oct 13 - 04:27 AM

And maybe this is a good point for everyone to leave this thread, and let it die? Please.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 02 Oct 13 - 05:55 AM

Ruling out any perspective, even the "politically correct ones" and those less so, in a discussion does not seem reasoned to me.But, repeating them over (from thread to thread) and over. And carrying disagreements over to other topics does seem to be pointless.

Anyway, I agree, this thread is now dead.I sispect the topics discussed will evolve elsewhere, as many often do, when not resolved to everyone's satisfaction.