BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming

Subject: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Songwronger
Date: 12 Jan 14 - 06:48 PM

Obama's EPA has declared that the city of Riverton, Wyoming, with over 10,000 people is no longer part of the United States and have given it to the Indians. In essence, all Americans living in Riverton are no longer living in the United States and are not eligible for state or federal services. They can also be tossed off land they bought and paid for since their deeds do not have to be recognized by the Indians. The Indians have argued for years that they should get full ownership of 1 million more acres of land because it should be part of their reservation.

The problem is that congress decided the borders in legislation passed in 1905. If this ruling is allowed to stand, the EPA can arbitrarily take land away from its owners and give it to anyone they choose to....

http://www.wcbm.com/includes/news_items/29/news_items_more.php?id=344381§ion_id=29

The EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) is stealing a town. The town was set up by law, and now Obama is ignoring that law in order to establish a precedent that could mean federal seizure of ANY town or area in America.

Senator Ted Cruz recently said Obama's lawlessness is dangerous and terrifying. He was referring, among other things, to how Obama has tweaked Obamacare illegally several times since the law was passed. That's illegal. Obama can't just change a law after congress passed it and he signed it. It takes another act of congress to change the law. Obama is behaving lawlessly with his tweaking of Obamacare.

And now he's using a regulatory agency to dispossess landowners of their property, in contradiction to the law.

The media will now begin to spin this story as a race thing (Obama does love to push that race button whenever he can), but the true story is that a regulatory agency has no legal standing to overrule law. If you allow the executive branch of the federal government to get away with this, then your property may be taken next.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Jan 14 - 07:05 PM

There should be a rule against lying in thread titles.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 12 Jan 14 - 07:38 PM

You're only one Goofus short of an internet Klan rally, Wrongo.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Elmore
Date: 12 Jan 14 - 08:11 PM

He (The President) can have Riverton, Wyoming as far as I'm concerned.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: GUEST,Cthulhu
Date: 12 Jan 14 - 08:35 PM

Hawg snot!!

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Jan 14 - 09:14 PM

Read the balanced version of the story

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Jan 14 - 10:12 PM

How can his giving something away TO someone be the same thing as stealing it FROM someone? Already we are not making sense.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 12:55 PM

The whole of the United States was stolen from the original inhabitants anyway, from one point of view. A point of view most of the people on the planet would likely share.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 01:05 PM

The whole of North America was........

Most people in North America don't give a shit about the point of view on this subject held by most of the people on the planet.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 01:09 PM

Very true.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 01:11 PM

Echo from South America.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 01:21 PM

Up until 1066 the land you are living on was stolen many times. Very few ethnic groups on this Earth are living on ground that was empty when their ancestors found it.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 01:32 PM

Now King Cnut......

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 02:09 PM

This thread is almost like Groundhog Day but without Bill Murray.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 02:27 PM

Fear mongering. Our Native Brothers ain't throwin anyone out. Our "settler brothers" are, however, still waging war against ALL our brothers. Just ask Neil Young or David Suzuki or Al Gore or... me. If you are on Facebook, look up "Frack". I'll tell ya a story of a little Province called New Brunswick. But, it will take you at least a few weeks to read it. Then, look up Is Our Forest Really Ours. Then look up............ far too many and that's just here in nb.ca

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 02:36 PM

The land in question was and is part of the Reservation.

In 1905, before Obama was even a twinkle in his daddy's eye, the US Congress permitted "non-native settlement" on that part of the reservation. This does not necessarily mean that the land where the town sits was ever "not still part of the reservation."

The EPA was established by Congress, and Obama had nothing to do with its creation. It is his task to enforce what Congress has decided, but there is no indication that the recent EPA decision was ordered by Obama.

Nothing in the EPA decision that the reservation has the right to monitor and control air quality there either "takes land away" from anyone or "gives land" to anyone else. The town has not been ordered to move out, but has been told to quit shitting here (if they're doing that).

As usual, HateWronger is just spreading his normal ***.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Elmore
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 07:55 PM

My great grandfather worked as an electrician in Riverton Wyoming. In fact, he was the first person to wire a head for a reservation.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 08:34 PM

Ding-ding-fucking-dong.

Well put JiK.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Songwronger
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 09:00 PM

Obama is the head of the executive branch. The EPA is an agency of the executive branch. Obama either issued the order or consented to it. He is responsible.

The EPA is a regulatory agency and has no legal right to overrule legislation. This is a test case power grab. If Obama can get away with this, then he can steal any piece of property he wants by using "environmental protection" as a reason.

Say no to tyranny, while you're still able to say no.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 09:52 PM

I already "said no" to irrelevant BS.... such as " Obama either issued the order or consented to it."

   **"Obama"** is not 'getting away with anything in this matter. I doubt he's even heard of the situation.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Songwronger
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 10:19 PM

So you're saying that Obama is stoopid? The perfessor is uninformed? I thought he was a can-do Harvard lawman. Can't have it both ways. So is he a Dubya-ish drooler or a criminal?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jan 14 - 06:19 AM

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

Winston Churchill

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Jan 14 - 10:04 AM

It is obvious that the thread title is argumentative.

Rather than have the argument, which is continuation of the argument in pretty much all of Songwronger's threads. Would in not be better to have a title which reflects the reality of the story?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Jan 14 - 01:42 PM

It is obvious that the thread title is argumentative.

Arguementative? Not so. Its simply idiotic.

It would be even better if no-one rose to ShitWringers bait.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Jan 14 - 02:12 PM

John in Kansas explained the situation. That should have been an end to the thread. Change is a matter for judicial interpretation, if suit is brought.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Songwronger
Date: 14 Jan 14 - 07:10 PM

I believe liberals are unable to debate because they have trouble justifying theft. Redistribution of wealth is a form of theft, and it's hard to justify. You work for something, it's yours. Simple enough. But liberals want to take from the workers and give to the non-workers.

I have no problem with redistribution, up to a point, but now Obama is pushing it using the EPA. Where was the EPA in W. Virginia? If Washington is going to regulate, why allow poison in W. Virginia's drinking water while harrassing landowners in Wyoming over this bullshit?

The last time I saw our doctor he said that Obamacare has nothing to do with health care, it's about control. That makes me think of the EPA, whose mission is not to "protect," but to control. Shame on Obama for using the agency to steal private property. Shame on you people for defending his actions.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: GUEST,Don Firth
Date: 14 Jan 14 - 11:15 PM

There it is, folks! Songwronger's first paragraph in the post above is pure Ayn Rand.

"Who is John Galt?"

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jan 14 - 01:42 AM

"Redistribution of wealth is a form of theft . . ."

"I have no problem with redistribution, up to a point . . ."


Hence/ergo/therefore the poster agrees with theft up to a point. We be talking some seriously fucked up shit here.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jan 14 - 11:16 AM

"The last time I saw our doctor he said..."

Oh, well! If a doctor in Texas said so, that oughta settle it! ☺

...but, ask those folks who now have health care they never had before what THEY think it's about.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama Steals Riverton, Wyoming
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jan 14 - 11:41 AM

". . . ask those folks who now have health care they never had before what THEY think it's about."

Even Alfie never found out what it's all about.