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Subject: BS: This page can't be displayed From: gnu Date: 22 May 14 - 06:56 PM I am just about done. I've been here for well over ten years and contributed $ more than many others but this is just getting to be too much. 30 times trying to read and post to a thread? Even if ya get in, ya can't read all the posts or get to post. Now, don't piss on me for being pissed. I have every and all respect for Max and Mudcat. Finest site on the internUt and I have said that many times. But, darn it's just getting too much of a chore. So, see ya when I see ya... if ya can see me. Odd and rare if this even posts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Jeri Date: 22 May 14 - 07:39 PM I'm glad you said something, gnu. It's frustrating for all of us, maybe more frustrating to finally get into Mudcat and be hit in the face with stupid people fighting about stupid things, but not everyone is on the internet looking for good things and friends. I understand if it got too bad to keep trying. It can be as frustrating trying to get threads to load with an overburdened server as it would be to have fun with a friend who's always sick. Max is having server problems, and being Max, doesn't ask for money to help fix it. Lots of people have given money over the years, some more than others, and I'm absolutely sure gnu has been one of the more generous contributors. Hardware and software become outdated and obsolete, and more people reading and posting to more threads means Max needs as server that can handle the volume. It wouldn't bother me if he cut 'BS' to the curb and let somebody else host the Mudcat Fight Club, but he doesn't want to. I wish I had a load of spare money, although if everyone who posts regularly could send $20, it would probably help him a lot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: gnu Date: 22 May 14 - 08:17 PM I got in! Yeah, I wish everyone would send a bit of coin, no matter the amount. Not me. I did my part many times over when I was flush. Now, I am strapped for cash so it's not in the cards. Not even a pittance. I gave to the Moncton and Georges Dumont Hospitals today so Mudcat is not on the list today for me. BTW... I know of other Mudcat friends who gave generously over the years who now are seldom seen here. No point to that... just a statement of fact that many will understand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: gnu Date: 22 May 14 - 08:27 PM Huh? It's working perfectly now? I just loaded and posted to the longest thread in the history of the internUt with no problems. Is this a cosmic joke on me? |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: GUEST Date: 22 May 14 - 09:06 PM In reverse order Mr. Gnu YES No No No And not even close. Sincerely, |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Ebbie Date: 23 May 14 - 01:33 AM Since Stilly posted the URL for checking the stance of the 'Cat - which I keep on my desktop - I'm no longer so frustrated. If 'connecting' hovers overlong I copy and paste the address and bingo! I go with the answer. http://www.websitedown.info/mudcat.org |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Joe Offer Date: 23 May 14 - 02:04 AM Max just ordered a new server. It cost $620. I expect it will be online in a month or less. You can contribute to the purchase of the server in many ways - check this page or click the catfish on the main page. I spent $2000 on Mudcat last year, so I'm not quite ready to spend more just yet. I don't know how much Max spends, but I do know his resources are limited. I wondered whether I should say how much I spend, but I figured it might be an idea to let people know that it costs a lot. Thanks. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 23 May 14 - 05:44 AM good onya, Joe well, my annual donation has (finally) gone - it will pay for a fair bit of the new server! sandra |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: GUEST Date: 23 May 14 - 09:46 AM Some Google advertisers pay on the number of times their ads are displayed rather than on clicks. The people who proudly tell us about their ad blockers could always try switching them off. It wouldn't bring in a fortune but at a cent or two per thousand page views it still adds up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 May 14 - 01:57 PM Guest troll, fuck off! Moderators try to eliminate the worst of the garbage of some posters; but language including words such as 'fascist' contribute nothing to a discussion. Childish trolling. Some of us would appreciate an update on finances and problems with the system, which is too often down. I have sent contributions in the past, but never receive an acknowledgement. Is mudcat organized according to society requirements of the State in which it operates? It should be, and should be required to be responsible to its members by providing regular reports. Societies and corporations are required to provide semi-annual and annual reports of finances, plans and budgetary needs. Mudcat should provide these, perhaps in the FAQ where they would be easily found. Guest troll turned to toast by one of those mods he so hates. --mudelf |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 May 14 - 02:11 PM I have sent a small contribution; as a pensioner, I cannot afford much. Proper financial reporting to members should be instituted. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 May 14 - 02:48 PM Frustratingly slow again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Ebbie Date: 23 May 14 - 04:48 PM If we start requiring Max to make monthly reports, Q, he may require us to become dues-paying members. Can you imagine how much of his "free" time the bookkeeping would take?? This is not a corporation, thank the gods. Be glad for what we've got. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Janie Date: 23 May 14 - 05:34 PM My understanding is all contributions short of mailing a monthly check need to come thru Paypal. I am not focused enough to write a monthly check, address an envelop, put a stamp on it, and get it in the mailbox without a monthly statement. I'm sure I am not alone in this. I don't have a lot of money to donate, but I do know that my local NPR station receives 3/5ths of my annual non-profit donations, simply because they have set up what is necessary for me to make a monthly donation via a credit card. On Paypal, the "buyer", in this instance, the donor, can not initiate monthly recurring payments unless the seller, in this instance, the Mudcat Foundation, has taken some action with Paypal to allow for recurring payments. I don't know if there are costs to the "seller" for doing so. As best I can tell, Mudcat Foundation is not set up on Paypal to receive recurring donations. That may be because it is too costly to do so, or it may be simply because Max has not made it possible. I certainly would not be able to contribute what Joe has contributed, but if an option were available to have my checking account or a credit card debited monthly for a contribution to Mudcat, I definitely would be doing so. Lots of 5 or 10 or 25 dollar donations being made each month by us "frequent flyers" would add up. But someone needs to "head it up." |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Greg F. Date: 23 May 14 - 05:53 PM ..., but never receive an acknowledgement. You poor little boy. How absolutely horrible for you. Frustratingly slow again. Gee, Q, what a heartache for you. Is mudcat organized according to society requirements of the State in which it operates? It should be, and should be required to be responsible to its members by providing regular reports. You're kidding, right? Gee, Q, if Mudcat is such a crap place and gives you so much aggravation, well, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out ....... |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: gnu Date: 23 May 14 - 06:27 PM Right... here we go again. People who can actually post do so in a nasty manner. I finally get in and can read posts and can post and here is what I have to post.... knock that shit off FFS! |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Greg F. Date: 23 May 14 - 07:07 PM So Q ain't being nasty with his long list of juvenile and ridiculous complaints? He didn't get a Mudcat Prospectus either. S'matter, Gnuzer - them killer coyotes nippin' at your heels again? |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Jeri Date: 23 May 14 - 07:23 PM The old "But Ma, HE did it FIRST!" defense. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 May 14 - 07:26 PM I did not ask for monthly reports, Ebbie, but some simple accounting, at least at semi-yearly or yearly points, would be a simple courtesy to the members. I am not alone in desiring this. I have been a member of a number of clubs and societies, and they all reported their status. Janie, read the post by Joe and click on the link 'check this page'. PayPal is the easy way to give a donation, and I gave my small contribution today through PayPal. Took all of 60 seconds. Joe is a wonder, and is always ready to help with advice and editing, not just monetarily. G Feces has never contributed above the line, Gnu, and has never made a useful comment below the line. He has lent his foul odor to a number of threads that tried to be informative. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Greg F. Date: 23 May 14 - 08:08 PM G Feces has never contributed above the line, Completely untrue, Q - would have been easy enough to check before making an ass of yourself. and has never made a useful comment below the line Depends on who you ask, Q. Perhaps its projection? The old "But Ma, HE did it FIRST!" defense. Its an explanation, Jeri, not a defense, which in this case - in view of Q's nonsense - is hardly necessary. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 23 May 14 - 09:27 PM Joe - Your link...and the new Catfish connect to T-Shirts. It is my understanding, the T-shirts sold out years ago. Is #274 still valid? Sincerely, Gargoyle I would guess, cash, US postage stamps, NJ casino poker chips are also still accepted?
joe@mudcat.org |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: gnu Date: 23 May 14 - 09:58 PM Got in again. Yay! Now, after reading the nasty shit again, gnight gnu. Jaysus!? |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Joe Offer Date: 24 May 14 - 12:33 AM Q, there are many valid reasons for having some sort of accounting system for donations, but the paperwork is a killer - and Max has a busy life and has a hard enough time keeping our servers going. That's why he didn't do the paperwork to become a 501(c)(3) organization so donations could be tax-deductible. It just gets too complicated. There are many of us who have come to know Max personally, and we trust him to make good use of our money. Acknowledgements would be nice, but they get complicated. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Nigel Paterson Date: 24 May 14 - 06:00 AM I donate when I can afford to, which is nowhere near as often as I would like. I trust Max, Joe & whoever else is involved to spend my money wisely & prudently. If there was more I could do to help, I'd be first in line. I get more out of 'The 'Cat' than I'm ever likely to be able to put in...wish I could redress that imbalance. Nigel. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 May 14 - 01:36 AM I agree with Nigel. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 25 May 14 - 01:41 AM me, too |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Joe Offer Date: 26 May 14 - 02:19 PM New server up and running. Its name is "muddy," and it seems to be working right nicely. Of course, there will be quirks to be resolved over the next couple of weeks. Thanks, Max. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: GUEST Date: 26 May 14 - 04:13 PM And of course, during the handover, the connection was completely down. Just a note for the future, a word of warning, even without an explanation, stops disaafection: any system will be down on occasion. Fingers crossed we see some stabilisation, and thankfully Max sees far worse in his day job than happens here. But none the less, reviewing ones pastings to avoid negativity before submitting the submit button probably does no harm. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Max Date: 26 May 14 - 04:35 PM Well, I had this scheduled for next week, you know... a day that's not a holiday that I could be spending with my family, but the web server crashed and wouldn't restart yesterday. So, I rolled up my sleeves and invested the energy into formatting the new server rather than duct tape the old one. So, I didn't get any word of warning either. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: gnu Date: 26 May 14 - 04:37 PM She's runnin a charm, now. Thanks, Max. To wh haven't done so, donate some coin eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 27 May 14 - 01:26 AM Thank you Max, especially for giving up your holiday and family time. Know that it is appreciated. keith. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 27 May 14 - 02:12 AM I'll second that!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Nigel Paterson Date: 27 May 14 - 02:44 AM Huge thanks from The Patersons in London. Max, Joe, the Elves...you're golden! |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: GUEST Date: 27 May 14 - 05:45 AM Ah, many thanks Max, really sorry I didn't look further. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: gnu Date: 27 May 14 - 12:00 PM Missed yer post, Max. Thanks, ever so much for so much, again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: GUEST Date: 28 May 14 - 01:52 PM Just one thought more: I tried loading the Mother thread. The size of that one's got so big it wants to crash the sserver in and of itself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 May 14 - 02:03 PM Don't load the Mother of All BS - no one in their right mind does that. Click on the little d and view it from most current, backward, 50 at a time. Savor it - a little goes a long way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: GUEST Date: 29 May 14 - 07:17 AM Aye, SRS, but it doesn't address the real point that there's nothing stopping someone doing it, and that'll have it's effect! Another problem in Europe this morning, once again the mirror was rerouting, to the same address the old server was on, and hanging. As a new server will almost certainly have a new address, it's not surprising, so I've dropped Max a note through LinkedIn, the only address I have for him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This page can't be displayed From: Jeri Date: 29 May 14 - 10:05 AM That thread is on the server all the time, as is everything ever posted at Mudcat. When something crashes, it's the computer that tries to load it. You query the server, it find the data which then has to load on your computer. When Max says he got a new server, he means the machine. How you get there hasn't changed, and the address hasn't changed, and I don't know what "mirrors" you're talking about. I suspect they ALWAYS went to the main Mudcat machine. |
