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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Ed T Date: 10 Jul 14 - 08:00 PM Mutant capitalism? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jul 14 - 07:36 PM No, Don...the poster named TIA....but I liked your inquiry..it fits! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Don Firth Date: 10 Jul 14 - 07:18 PM Transient Ischemic Attack? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jul 14 - 07:09 PM Don't get a twist in your knickers...'Guest, Not Don Firth' is TIA posting under that name....(trying to hide) GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Don Firth Date: 10 Jul 14 - 02:48 PM Boy! Now THERE's a political commentary that'll show Fox News how it should be done! Bill O'Really? Listen up!! Don Firth (the Don Firth who is the real Don Firth) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jul 14 - 01:50 PM oops..I meant Paul RYAN..(not Rand)..George of the Jungle.....more to come.. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jul 14 - 01:47 PM YOU??? adding a comma, FOR ME???.....I'll 'root' for ya'! I've never misspelled 'root' with route since you pointed that out..a l-o-o-ng time ago... By the way I've got some more cartoon characters for ya'.... Harry Reid--Farmer Alfalfa (and the mice) Rand Paul--Woody Woodpecker Nancy Pelosi--Olive Oyl Michelle Bachmann-- Betty Rubble John McCain-- Bart Simpson President Obama--Mr.Potato Head (without glasses or mustache) Barney Frank--Mr. Magoo Paul Rand--George of the Jungle ...and what is 'Ebbie' short for??...I was ruling out 'Ebola' GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Ebbie Date: 10 Jul 14 - 12:53 PM "..and ironic, as it may be, those who bitch about capitalism, usually do so, because they're not doing too well at it!!!" Thought I'd put in your missing comma. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Stu Date: 10 Jul 14 - 12:47 PM " those who bitch about capitalism, usually do so, because they're not doing too well at it" If everyone does well, capitalism doesn't work. You need people to be poor in order to balance the books. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jul 14 - 12:06 PM Had to re-phrase....'IT' sounded awkward and unclear. ..and ironic as it may be, those who bitch about capitalism, usually do so, because they're not doing too well at it!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jul 14 - 12:03 PM ..and ironic as it may be, those who bitch about capitalism, usually do it because they're not doing too well at it!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Jul 14 - 07:45 PM There is nothing wrong with profiting, or if one uses it to make more. Where the problem lies is in greed, and hurting other people, and doing so either unlawfully or unethically. Or in other words, infringing one's will over other people's rights, for one's own personal greed and leveraging one's profits to infringe on other people's freedoms. Agree? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Jul 14 - 04:30 PM Even if you wrote a song and sold it?..or performed it for some money? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 09 Jul 14 - 04:17 PM Assyrian Profit-seeking merchants were active 2 millennia BC. Merchant capitalism was practiced by the Romans. Modern mercantilism dates from the late Middle Ages. People always have looked for a profit. To me, that is the root of Capitalism. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Jul 14 - 03:50 PM 200...or is that $200.00?? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Jul 14 - 03:48 PM NOT disagreeing with you!!....However, you posted, "So some form of socially democratic system incorporating capitalism would make sense; keep the ability to innovate and develop but encourage long-term thinking." We had that, but through corruption and side-stepping anti monopoly laws, that have been weakened, to the point of non compliance...EXCEPT for those companies, and 'special interests'(?) to whom either will not merge, or who are in competition, with the larger corporations, who can also 'afford' to corrupt the laws that were already in place! And: (Still NOT disagreeing with you).."Well history disagrees with you there. Modern capitalism didn't even exist before the 1700s. Although trade was widespread before then economies were not based on capitalism, but often on the labours of a large underclass that supplied the goods. Governments taxed individuals or areas in order to generate wealth." "Governments taxed individuals or areas in order to generate wealth." AND to pay for socialized services.....but that, too, has been corrupted! By 'Modern capitalism' are you referring to the stock and commodity exchanges? "What are the alternatives? Communism has never been tried properly.." China did try it...but until they incorporated a form of 'capitalism', did they flourish economically....BTW, that being said, the U.S. based multinational corporations, have exploited them, and have hurt our economy, by doing trade with them..even with incorporation of slave labor conditions producing the products. "In the end capitalist excesses must be regulated, or the system will fail." ..and the laws ENFORCED. We had them at one time, but through corrupt practices, 'lawmakers' have been 'persuaded' (read: Bribed) to make loopholes in the laws, that once enacted, get the loopholes closed again, as a masquerade of 'reform'..but long enough to get THEM through the loophole....so it appears to be 'legal', though not right. As of note, socialism, to some degree NEEDS a form of capitalism to function and fund it...the two can be compatible...but once the balance has been tipped, favoring one side or the other, is when the corrupt opportunists make their move...and at that, fall back on ideologies to gain support!!! Good post, Stu! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Stu Date: 09 Jul 14 - 03:04 PM "The capitalist philosophy is almost a genetic trait in cultures; it is the only game in town" Well history disagrees with you there. Modern capitalism didn't even exist before the 1700s. Although trade was widespread before then economies were not based on capitalism, but often on the labours of a large underclass that supplied the goods. Governments taxed individuals or areas in order to generate wealth. So although trade is as old as humankind, it is very wrong to suggest it is capitalism. Other cultures also were more agrarian in makeup, small communities would survive as hunter gatherers as part of a more balanced system of ecosystem and resource management. There were feudal systems, dictatorships and lord knows how moony other economic systems apart from capitalism. What are the alternatives? Communism has never been tried properly, socialism needs tweaking to accommodate entrepreneurship and trade, but has greater moral and ethical integrity than capitalism, which as economic system that has started to replace democracy; a revival of feudalism based on wealth rather than birth. The irony is that the very riches we were promised by the capitalists have never appeared. Trickle-down was a fundamental miscalculation of how the non-redistribution of wealth would occur. In the end capitalist excesses must be regulated, or the system will fail. We cannot continue to use finite resources to fuel growth because they're, er, finite. We need to remove infrastructure and healthcare and welfare from the control of capitalists as we do with the military, and we need to ensure energy is nationalised for our own security. So some form of socially democratic system incorporating capitalism would make sense; keep the ability to innovate and develop but encourage long-term thinking. I'm guessing this won't happen, but throughout history when a small elite holds all the aces, when life becomes difficult or dangerous for people then the pitchforks come out. It's happened to much longer lasting civilisations than that of the modern capitalist states of the Americas, Europe and the Far East. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Jul 14 - 02:27 PM OK, Don..I agree with most of your post...but would like to add one vital feature....There should be a push for the truth, and prosecution for all those who broke the public's trust, by participating in ANY corruption that affects laws and policies to accommodate them or the outcome of that said corruption! Wouldn't you agree? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 09 Jul 14 - 02:10 PM Good post, Don. Most politicians represent what they think their constituents want. By voting, one is selecting representatives that represent their views, at least in part. The capitalist philosophy is almost a genetic trait in cultures; it is the only game in town, but it needs thoughtful restrictions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jul 14 - 02:01 PM It is true that there is a great deal of corruption in both political parties and the American people are often presented with a choice between the lesser of two evils. Always has been, always will be. But this does not absolve the voter from studying the issues and the candidates, then choosing wisely and voting for who they judge to be the best candidate. It is counterproductive and defeatist--along with downright lazy--to just throw up your hands and declare that they're all corrupt, so why bother analyzing, campaigning, and voting. As I indicated elsewhere, I DO know a number of honest politicians who are doing their damnedest to serve the American people. They are not ALL a bunch of rascals and crooks. And it is incumbent upon YOU as a citizen to make intelligent choices, then campaign and vote. To simple dismiss all politicians as corrupt is to abdicate your obligations as a citizen. And chances are you will GET exactly what you DESERVE. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Jul 14 - 01:19 PM I re-iterate: "OK..Let me be clearer.....Shut up with the 'condescending' bullshit, and try a civil discussion regarding the topic of the thread. You say I'm wrong about the corruption in both parties.....offer an adult reason as to 'why'?....when I've provided historically correct proof. Get out of the 'Avoiding Topics for Stupid Ideologues Handbook', and address the issues of the topic. Your analysis of writing style, is another Dodge...("Wouldn't you really rather have a Buick?"). The crisis of capitalism in the USA in nothing but a product of the corruption that exists in Washington, and their relationships with the multinational/banker/corporations...and BOTH sides are selling out...and still for sale.....(or rent), as in our military. Care to comment?" GfS P.S. Akenaton: "A lot of reasonable debating points from Sanity and nothing but abuse and very lame jokes from Ed and Don?" Par for the course. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jul 14 - 01:08 PM No, actually, Goofus, the two-hour "Nova" was on the network of artificial satellites that are scanning the earth and providing huge piles of data to earth sciences about weather systems, ocean currents, and in general, how the earth works. Fascinating!! Did you know that particulate matter that blows off the Sahara Desert crosses the Atlantic and has a lot to do with the lushness of the Brazilian rain forest? Or that a massive undersea waterfall (cold water sinking) off the Antarctic has a great deal to do with ocean currents? Or a much larger number of underwater volcanoes than they ever imagined are constantly feeding nutrient material into the water for sea life, which in turn..... Is "SpongeBob Squarepants" where you get your political views? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Don Firth Date: 09 Jul 14 - 12:33 PM "Reasonable debating points?" Ake, you've got to be kidding!! But then, I'm not sure what your standards for "reasonable" are. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Ed T Date: 09 Jul 14 - 08:00 AM Lurking, personal insults and trolling again Ake. And, you claim to be " the one" beyond that? Really showing your "true coulours". Doublespeak would be more like your perspectives, that are most often cited on Mudcat as "disgusting". Why not choose logical instead? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: akenaton Date: 09 Jul 14 - 03:56 AM A lot of reasonable debating points from Sanity and nothing but abuse and very lame jokes from Ed and Don? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 11:46 PM Shit...he's already eaten some pages.....Get me Lois Lerner's attorney!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 11:44 PM He's actually watching 'Sponge-Bob Square-Pants'....(He told me...after all, I believe all news reporters!) ...Well, I got an overdue library book to return, too....after I get it out of my dog's mouth.... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Don Firth Date: 08 Jul 14 - 11:39 PM Ye GODS, Goofus!! When you get around to asking a straight question without all the attendant horsefeathers, I'll answer it! Don Firth P. S. But not tonight. I'm watching a two-hour NOVA on PBS. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 11:33 PM Cross posted, with ya'... "Where did you get the cockamamie idea the Liberals spend time reading Marx? Or that Conservatives give much of a damn about what's in the Constitution?" Are you being silly, again?...I DON'T think that...I was pointing out what they really believe in...the debate over ideologies is for the victims.... Jeez....and I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, for being able to read and comprehend........(figures you were in the 'news department'..and morphed into a wannabe political activist....but let's not divert too much)! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 11:29 PM OK..Let me be clearer.....Shut up with the 'condescending' bullshit, and try a civil discussion regarding the topic of the thread. You say I'm wrong about the corruption in both parties.....offer an adult reason as to 'why'?....when I've provided historically correct proof. Get out of the 'Avoiding Topics for Stupid Ideologues Handbook', and address the issues of the topic. Your analysis of writing style, is another Dodge...("Wouldn't you really rather have a Buick?"). The crisis of capitalism in the USA in nothing but a product of the corruption that exists in Washington, and their relationships with the multinational/banker/corporations...and BOTH sides are selling out...and still for sale.....(or rent), as in our military. Care to comment? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Don Firth Date: 08 Jul 14 - 11:23 PM Cross posted. Where did you get the cockamamie idea the Liberals spend time reading Marx? Or that Conservatives give much of a damn about what's in the Constitution? Another display of your ignorance. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Don Firth Date: 08 Jul 14 - 11:14 PM Pretty limp, there, Goofus. At least try to learn to write a complete and meaningful sentence before you mouth off at those smarter and more articulate than you. Let me help. Get a copy of "Elements of Style" by Strunk and White. It's a small book filled with excellent information on how to write meaningfully. Don't say I never did anything for you. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 11:07 PM I almost thought you might have commented on 'The crisis of capitalism in the USA' and how the corruption in Washington, both parties, have been corrupted by it...regardless of ideology...that's for the victims to debate!!...Oh, the theater of it all! Before a decision is made, do you think the Conservatives whip out a copy of the Constitution??...or the 'so-called liberals' whip out a book of Marx??...Hell NO!..they whip out the ledgers, and figure how much they can profit by promoting a bullshit 'cause', either side..not for money...that's just a step toward the power..which is what the money can get them. The ultimate goal is control....and do you actually think this is just confined to one party???? I remember during the Nixon fiasco, that it was quite obvious...the Presidency was expendable, to gain control of the press's credibility. that being said, who is in charge of what the press releases??...and do you think that it is all true??..Either side??.. Meanwhile, the drugs for guns continued, while remaining covert, complete with plausible cover stories....Iran/Contra, for instance...which got it's start in Vietnam....or even getting into Vietnam in the first place with the 'Gulf of Ton-kin' horse-crap, under Johnson! ..Did you know, that at that time, the oil companies found massive deposits in the Ton-kin Gulf?....meanwhile, during that time, we were transferring guns and other hardware from Vietnam, to the Shah of Iran??....and was the press covering it?? Then they moved their operation to Central America, which morphed into Iran/Contra...while VP Bush's(ex CIA head), was flying the cargo in and out of Mena Arkansas, under Clinton's Governorship.....oh, they're 'buddies' from way back!!....If you think this is 'old' and irrelevant news, maybe it would help explain Iran's present 'attitude' towards the U.S...especially when the U.S. was propping up Saddam, and even selling him chemical weapons....that's how we 'knew' he had them...we had the receipts!...Did you notice, that in the recent 'news' reports, about the 'concern' about ISIS recovering chemicals in Iraq??....Jeez, you would have thought that while we were there, after invading it, for that 'reason' that there wouldn't be anything like that to be concerned about.........ya' think???? I already ran down the oil thing with the Keystone Pipeline, and disrupting the Mideast....but it's all in the timing. Obama is not being weak or uncertain, as claimed by many....somethings take time to mature...and really, isn't it just a matter of time?? This has NOTHING to do with ideologies, and to get your hopes up is just a futile exercise, while their domestic policies are being set in place. This is not rocket science. I just hope they like good music!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 10:37 PM Thank you for your condensed analysis, of what would normally have been one of your posts! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Don Firth Date: 08 Jul 14 - 10:05 PM Gibberish. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 09:40 PM Ed: ".... I attempt to follow the conversation...not wishing to be part of it, mind you." OK. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Ed T Date: 08 Jul 14 - 09:32 PM Gfs, It is a puzzling grouping of words, that does not have a clear meaning to me, as I attempt to follow the conversation...not wishing to be part of it, mind you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 08:27 PM Que pasa, No comprende? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Ed T Date: 08 Jul 14 - 07:09 PM ""a narrative given by the synthetically exploited 'political divide'."" Huh? Comprend pas? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 06:52 PM Q: "Gfs, certainly no one should listen to your nonsense." Well, not if ya' wanna learn something that's outside the parameters of political correct so-called liberal gibberish!....I can see your point of view.... GfS P.S....'cept what I've been posting, among others, that the 'nonsense crowd' has been shouting down, has been coming to pass..... If I want to be stupid, I'll join your party madness... .....'But I'm NOT with the 'Party'...I'm with the band!' |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Don Firth Date: 08 Jul 14 - 01:46 PM Like my neighbor's Yorkshire terrier, he yaps incessantly, but each and every yap sounds very much like the ones before. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 08 Jul 14 - 01:37 PM Gfs, certainly no one should listen to your nonsense. Unfortunately, it has been posted in thread after thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 10:40 AM Musket: "No fucker is reading either..." Do you mean you're the only one that did? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Musket Date: 08 Jul 14 - 07:56 AM No fucker is reading either... What, in all that crap is the point you are trying to make? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 07:18 AM Typo in other one...this one is correct While you were so busy 'attacking the sources' golly-shucks, nobody even addressed the content...(seemingly another diversion 'co-incidence')... It goes like this: Akenaton: "Look what President Bush achieved, plunging the US into foreign wars, simply because it was in the interests of a few capitalists to do so and that the system demanded a show of strength." NOTE: "...simply because it was in the interests of a few capitalists..." "President Obama has a weak administration, and his leadership qualities must be called into question. The party is riven with divisions and political infighting. The American people have been successfully divided over social issues and the System marches on." "President Obama has a weak administration..." I wouldn't say 'weak' that is a narrative given by the synthetically exploited 'political divide'..but rather 'corrupt'...because he is working for the same bunch that Bush did!...and Clinton....and it is according to their schedule, that the events unfold. "The party is riven with divisions and political infighting. The American people have been successfully divided over social issues and the System marches on." The national dialogue has been fraudulently orchestrated to focus attention AWAY from the REAL players and string-pullers and their motives...the 'political parties' are tools to them...to keep the suckers stupid! Call me anything you want...but when it happens, just remember your own behavior, and WHY you were so intolerant to the truth! Meanwhile, I'll of think of names that fit that kind of blind stupidity...but I won't post them........................for now!! Happy Songwriting! GfS P.S....ever wonder why nobody's listening?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 07:12 AM While you were so busy 'attacking the sources' golly-shucks, nobody addressed the content...(seemingly another diversion 'co-incidence')... It goes like this: Akenaton: "Look what President Bush achieved, plunging the US into foreign wars, simply because it was in the interests of a few capitalists to do so and that the system demanded a show of strength." NOTE: "...simply because it was in the interests of a few capitalists..." "President Obama has a weak administration, and his leadership qualities must be called into question. The party is riven with divisions and political infighting. The American people have been successfully divided over social issues and the System marches on." "President Obama has a weak administration..." I wouldn't say 'weak' that is a narrative given by the synthetically exploited 'political divide'..but rather 'corrupt'...because he is working for the same bunch that Bush did!...and Clinton.... "The party is riven with divisions and political infighting. The American people have been successfully divided over social issues and the System marches on." The national dialogue has been fraudulently orchestrated to focus attention AWAY from the REAL players and string-pullers and their motives...the 'political parties' are tools to them...to keep the suckers stupid! Call me anything you want...but when it happens, just remember your own behavior, and WHY you were so intolerant to the truth! Meanwhile, of think of names that fit that kind of blind stupidity...but I won't post them...for now!! Happy Songwriting! GfS P.S....ever wonder why nobody's listening?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jul 14 - 06:52 AM There you guys go again...just as I said originally....SO, I'll go back to this Take your pick ...the UK Telegraph is on the list..is that one good enough for ya'? Or This: Jordan is looking like it's next....or at least 'on the short-list'......and if your 'so-called liberal' approved 'news' sources ain't even carrying articles relating to that, then get another source, especially when you SEE it happening, and you were told beforehand, and the 'prestigious' Pulitzer Prize Wonder Papers left you stupid and in the dark....until some spin-master, fluffs it up for you after the fact! It's going to happen....I said it a couple of years ago, on Mudcat,...then, Mudcat should be up for its own Pulitzer Prize, for breaking the story!! Remember when I just posted that ideologues are half blind??? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: akenaton Date: 08 Jul 14 - 02:35 AM From over here, President Obama does seem out of his depth, but seriously I don't suppose any of us who study politics ever thought he could effect change, even had he wanted to. The system determines change, not the President.....nor the people. Look what President Bush achieved, plunging the US into foreign wars, simply because it was in the interests of a few capitalists to do so and that the system demanded a show of strength. President Obama has a weak administration, and his leadership qualities must be called into question. The party is riven with divisions and political infighting. The American people have been successfully divided over social issues and the System marches on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: Don Firth Date: 08 Jul 14 - 01:35 AM The Seattle Times has received nine Pulitzer Prizes and has an international reputation for its investigative journalism in particular. Its editorial policy seems to swing both ways, backing a Republican candidate—and the legalization of same-sex marriage in the last State election. And a general tossed salad of candidates and issues. They generally present both sides of an issue. The Seattle Post-Intelligencer (The Seattle P-I) used to be owned by Hearst, but was sold some time ago. It now has a joint operating agreement with the Seattle Times, but has its own editorial board. As of 2009, it no longer puts out a print edition. Internet only. With any news source, it behooves one to read or listen with one's brain in gear. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The crisis of capitalism in the USA From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 08 Jul 14 - 12:49 AM "Look up the New York Times. The Washington Post. The LA Times. The Seattle Times or the Seattle PI. Look up the San Francisco Chronicle. The Chicago Sun-Times. The Sacramento Bee. Reputable newspapers. Are you afraid of them? Forbes, Time, The Atlantic, some of the reputable European newspapers and journals." Reputable = liberal/progressive? I don't know the ed. position of the Seattle papers, but I suspect them to be on the left as they are in Seattle. All the other named titles, perhaps excepting Forbes, are all left leaning. The LA Times ceased to be paper worth reading years ago, except for the very occasional investigative series. I notice that you did leave off The Wall Street Journal. They have well thought out, and well written editorials, and columnists of all stripes, but mostly lean right. Could it be because the ownership is Murdoch, although the paper is still run as if it were owned by Dow Jones.? Hmmm? |
