BS: You can't do that...

Subject: BS: You can't do that...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 May 15 - 11:24 AM

I really used to enjoy calling in the shop for good shag on the way to the pub, getting lashed and then rolling a fag. But it isn't socially acceptable any more. Shame really...

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: You can't do that...
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 May 15 - 11:31 AM

You would buy a carpet, be whipped, and rob a gay person?

Why????

Subject: RE: BS: You can't do that...
From: Ed T
Date: 29 May 15 - 11:35 AM

Did you, by chance, go into a bakery and order a gayish cake?

Subject: RE: BS: You can't do that...
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 May 15 - 11:44 AM

"I really used to enjoy calling in the shop for good shag on the way to the pub"

There was a shop like that down the road from our local pub..
opened for business for a few months before the police found out and closed it down...😜

Subject: RE: BS: You can't do that...
From: Will Fly
Date: 29 May 15 - 12:27 PM

I used to enjoy a luxurious, gorgeous Havana cigar - usually a Cohiba - and a Mojita in the Bar Havana in Brighton (Hove actually), prior to doing a gig in the nearby Lion & Lobster of a Friday evening.

Then the owner of the Bar Havana upped stakes and went back to Cuba, and the no-smoking ban in pubs put paid to my occasional Cuban cigar. Alles is weg, weg, weg.

Still, I've saved a shedload of money (Cohibas were around a tenner a go at that time) and probably done my throat a power of good!

Subject: RE: BS: You can't do that...
From: Ed T
Date: 29 May 15 - 01:02 PM

I still enjoy good cigars, some Cuban-though IMO, the cuban quality is now mostly in the past, versus the present. Other Carribean cigars have caught up-and some surpast the Cubans.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't do that...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 May 15 - 01:05 PM

Funnily enough I never rated Cuban cigars and did not enjoy those I sampled in Mexico. Probably the height of poor taste but I enjoyed White Owl, Old Port and King Edwards. Of the smaller ones Mehari Sweet Orient were my favourites.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't do that...
From: Will Fly
Date: 29 May 15 - 01:06 PM

Cigars from the Dominican Republic were always a good buy if I couldn't afford a Cohiba.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't do that...
From: Ed T
Date: 29 May 15 - 02:39 PM

Many of the Cuban cigar company owners, in exile, began their operations in   Dominican Republic in the 60's-70s, which had similar growing conditions. Sone also registered their cigar brands in the USA and internationaly. Thispresented problems for cuban government cigar exporters, who attempted to market the same brands-that they did not actually own. I believe some of the brands you mentioned were from former Cubans living in Miami, Tampa and Dominica.

Cuban cigars sent down hill for a few reasons. The first was the shade-grown outside wrappers, which were primarily externally sourced (one source wad the USA) . They attempted to source them locally, with varied results, as it was a big learning curve. The second was the huge growth in cigar popularity near the turn of the centuary. Cuba pumped out huge numbers of cigars to feed needed capital. The result was lower quality, as inferior quality leaves and curing processes were used and less experienced hand rollers were permitted.A concerned veteran Cuban cigar roller once told me that the same cigars were branded with a variety of labels to increase production of the higer priced cigars. Qualith control became the big elephant in the room that was never discussed with the outside.
The quality never recovered.