English Goodnight & joy be with you all?

Subject: English Goodnight & joy be with you all?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 02 Sep 15 - 06:56 AM

There is a tune quoted in George Butterworth's "Two English Idylls" which starts out very much like the 17th century Scottish song "Good Night and God/Joy Be With You All" (better known in its modern adaptation as the Irish pub song "The Parting Glass"). I didn't realize there was an English version of it, but given the context, there must be, since Butterworth's piece is based on real folktune quotations. What is it and where did Butterworth find it?

First appears around 1:15 here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3mNhod6W7c

Subject: RE: English Goodnight & joy be with you all?
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 02 Sep 15 - 11:59 AM

The tune is Just as the Tide was Flowing. I can't say which version it is, although I rather fancy it is one which he himself collected. In any event, TEI was first published in 1911, so I'd say it will almost certainly have been published in one the Journals of The Folk Song Society some time before them.

Subject: RE: English Goodnight & joy be with you all?
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 02 Sep 15 - 03:18 PM

Butterworth's stuff is in the Full English, so go to the EFDSS site and type in 'Just as the Tide was Flowing' and possibly 'Butterworth'. That should do it. When you get the search box use 'advanced search' and click on 'titles' and type in the title which will bring up all of the versions of 'Just' and then scroll along to find those collected by Butterworth.

Subject: RE: English Goodnight & joy be with you all?
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 02 Sep 15 - 03:22 PM

Fred
The only version in the early journals is tune only collected by RVW.

Subject: RE: English Goodnight & joy be with you all?
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 04 Sep 15 - 06:18 AM

Steve. Then that could be the very one.