BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 10 Nov 16 - 11:35 AM

Sixteen years ago, Lisa Simpson was elected President, and complained about the deficit that her predecessor, President Trump, had left. Sometimes life is too bizarre for satire........

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 10 Nov 16 - 10:03 AM

Declared 100 day intentions by Trump
Deport illegal Mexicans and build the wall
Abolish Obama's health reforms.
Renege on any previous agreements on climate change
Little wonder that decent Americans right across the country - New York, Washington - San Francisco - have taken to the streets claiming he does not speak for them them
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 10 Nov 16 - 09:43 AM

Does anyone genuinely understand how US voting works...???

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Nov 16 - 09:21 AM

Small consolation under the circumstances, Kevin. ;>)

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Nov 16 - 09:16 AM

But don't forget, more people voted for Hillary than for Donald.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Nov 16 - 08:20 AM

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -H. L. Mencken

And now, citizens of the U.S. of A., bend over, but first lay in a good supply of petroleum jelly; purchase it in bulk if possible.

Recommendatrion to the rest of the world: invest in petroleum jelly futures.

USA ! SIEG HEIL !! USA ! SIEG HEIL !! USA ! SIEG HEIL !! USA !

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 16 - 08:15 AM

LETS NOT MAKE FUN OF THE GRIEVING PROCESS.


If some people have to protest in denial look the other way.

The positive ways to preserve Constructional rights and civil liberties are law you can practice. Improvise when you must and organize when time allows. Petition according to the rules.

If your only image of a Tramp supporter is from a rally remember fear and worry brought them there. It was not hate alone.

Hate was the mobilizing tactic Trump used but Americans are not all hateful.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Senoufou
Date: 10 Nov 16 - 08:00 AM

I agree with Mrrzy and Donuel. This isn't a laughing matter. One feels more like weeping with utter despair.

I'm imagining a large team of President Elect advisors grouped round Trump, showing him a book called 'How To Be A President', written in words of one syllable for a Reading Age of about 5. Opening line:-
Do not start a war.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Mr Red
Date: 10 Nov 16 - 03:03 AM

Only in America has morphed lexicographically!

Blame it on the "Silent Trumpers" - those too ashamed to admit they were going to vote Trump.
You know, America is going to adopt an English word now. (There's a novelty!)

The British meaning - trump=fart.
Silent but deadly. And the rest of the world can smell it.

Air-freshener stocks rise - shock horror.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Jason Xion Wang
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 09:50 PM

ISIS is shit per se. Certainly the most disgusting group of terrorists in the 21st century. I can fully understand why people want them to be eliminated. They should be, but it won't happen because the cost would be too much for a country to bear.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 09:17 PM

"Riddikulus"

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 07:23 PM

gillymor - PM
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 02:49 PM
Trump has promised to "bomb the shit out of ISIS". Sounds like war to me.
People buying BAE shares seem to agree.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bae+systems+shares+graph

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 03:20 PM

Great - The Turd With Legs channeling Curtis LeMay. That worked out just farkin' great back then, didn't it.

Dumbfarkkistan, indeed.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 02:49 PM

Trump has promised to "bomb the shit out of ISIS". Sounds like war to me. I feel like a citizen of the shabbiest country on the planet today.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 02:45 PM

As the saying goes, if you didn't laugh, you'd cry.

Kevin, the last thing that the prospect of that piece of human garbage polluting the White House, is amusing.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: gnu
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 02:41 PM

I am as upset as the next person but people are tired of war. That was the single 'most' impetus that drove people to vote for trump... the (illusionary) promise of not going to war after war after war.

I'll get my sou'wester and slicker on my way out in case the shit flies before I can get out the door.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 02:25 PM

Having missed this thread, Joe certainly earned more moderate points.


Laughing stock tout d'monde?

It is now beyond a laughing matter.

What is apparent to the world is that our electorate is willing to overlook a complete lack of truth, decency, ethics and knowledge in exchange for a chance for a job that will never return, a home the bank took and a racial resentment they learned from their father.

Enough financial fraud and lies can even turn the home of the brave into hypocritical, unconstitutional cowards.

Victorious cowards do not know they should be ashamed, they are too close to what is happening for now.

We all know the story about selling one's soul.
But I don't demonize either

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 01:51 PM

Are people laughing, or terrified?

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 01:45 PM

Well, I'll go so far as to say that I don't think Mrs. Clinton is a laughingstock, or a laughing matter. Made of stern stuff, whatever you think of her, and she isn't going away quietly if she goes away at all, which I suspect she won't.

I might have to look harder at, what's his name? Pence? Because a target as easy as the declared winner of this election, well, he may be an easy target, but his fall will be a hard one. He can run, but he can't hide.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 01:40 PM

.. all together now.. singalong....

"Hillary Clinton packed her bags
And said goodbye to the White House
Off she went with a trumpety-trump
Trump, trump, trump".....

It's not enough to be vilifying Trump.. he's an easy target...

The main serious problem is, whatever possessed the Democrats to select Clinton in the first place...!!!??? 😣



If she'd scraped a victory, at best the reaction might have been..

"oh well, at least she's not as shit as Trump...?????"

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 01:21 PM

As the saying goes, if you didn't laugh, you'd cry.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 01:17 PM

Got our answer now, I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST,#
Date: 21 Sep 15 - 07:49 AM

'I am reminded of when George W got in when every actual American I knew held up their hands in horror and said "it wasn't me".'

Similar thing here in Canada when the Conservatives under Harper got it. I concluded from that that about half my friends were liars.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Sep 15 - 03:32 AM

As a country - yes
As individuals - no

I am reminded of when George W got in when every actual American I knew held up their hands in horror and said "it wasn't me".

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Sep 15 - 02:25 AM

Has anyone heard what Fart plans to do about club which supports the clowns who contrive to shoot to death 11.000 of their fellow citizens every year?

That will be interesting, methinks. Even more interesting than the plan to send illegals back where they came from. And just as realistic.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 05:39 PM

no of course not.........

(snigger. snigger.......ho! Ho! HO! HO!HO!)

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 02:04 PM

See what I mean#.....Even good friends can agree sometimes! :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST,#
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 01:58 PM

"Every US election for the past few decades has been exactly that.

.....but this one is more like a circus....of horrors."

Bingo!

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 01:36 PM

Thanks #

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 01:35 PM

" Donald Trump is making a mockery of the political process by trying to turn it into some sort of reality TV show"

Every US election for the past few decades has been exactly that.

.....but this one is more like a circus....of horrors.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 01:14 PM

According to Google, Bernie Sanders did not vote to oppose the war in Afghanistan...he voted against the war in Iraq, but voted for the funding for that war. Which, in a way, makes sense. If the government is going to send its military into an ill-conceived and impulsive war, at least vote to buy them guns and bullets with which to defend themselves, and hope for the best. Sanders was opposed to the intervention in Libya.

Donald Trump is making a mockery of the political process by trying to turn it into some sort of reality TV show. During the last Republican debate, he at times looked like someone who, without letting on, was trying to absorb the answers of the other candidates in order to gauge what he should think about those issues. He is woefully misinformed on anything substantive, and on those issues with which he has a fundamental grasp, his solution is simplistic and inadequate. Illegal immigrants? Build a wall. What to do with the purported 11 million undocumented immigrants already here? Send 'em back. (Really? ..how do you go about rounding up 11 million people?).. Jobs? He's going to create 'em by bringing back corporations to the US (by cutting taxes, apparently). Obamacare? Repeal it (and do what with the millions of Americans who are enrolled in it?). Trump speaks in 2 second soundbites that pander to those voters whose attention spans are just that long, but when it comes to details, well...supposedly he would populate his cabinet with people who would handle all the messy complications of implementing those policies.

People love to hear, "It's gonna be great", as the solution to any problem that arises, but for those who wonder How is it gonna be great, Trump offers no hope for a legitimate answer.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST,#
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 09:54 AM

I agree with you, Ake.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 05:58 AM

Guest...I don't read newspapers, or watch US tv. I rarely watch UK tv any longer.
I get most of my information from internet sources, and I was responding to Joe's assertion that Mrs Clinton is a "sensible" person.

She is a dangerous, powerful and unscrupulous politician....not in the mould of President Obama, more in the mould of our own dearly loved Mr Blair.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST,JTS.
Date: 19 Sep 15 - 01:07 PM

Certainly Trump is a laughingstock. I don't respect him as a businessman. But he is a very good entertainer. People like the spectacle.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST, ^*^
Date: 19 Sep 15 - 12:01 PM

Tell us what you really think of Hillary, akenaton! You've been reading too many newspapers in the grocery store checkout line. Those headlines area all a combination of fiction and wishful thinking on the behalf of the cohort of yellow journalism practitioners.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Sep 15 - 07:10 AM

The people who killed Gaddafi, with the assistance of France, the UK and ultimately the US lobbied by Mrs Clinton, are the same people who behead bound prisoners and burn captured pilots alive in a cage.

Why are we not supporting Assad against this menace?
If we do not Putin will be forced to, then we ALL START PRAYING TO GOD, Even the atheists.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Sep 15 - 05:59 AM

"Yes, GfS, I know the extreme right has been waging a campaign against Hillary for the last ten years or more. Even some American liberals are starting to believe the Benghazi and email "scandal" propaganda, but I don't believe any of it. She's an intelligent woman, and what she says makes sense to me."

These points may be debatable Joe, but Mrs Clinton was the driving force in the removal from power and subsequent murder of Col Gaddafi.
Arguably the detonator for the ISIL explosion.

That did not make good sense, it would be difficult to find any informed person who now thinks Gaddafi's removal was a good idea. Her chortling antics in response to Gaddafi's murder said everything about Mrs Clinton's personal character.

President Obama's biggest mistake in taking office, was to allow the Clintons within one hundred miles of his administration.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Sep 15 - 02:29 AM

Well, OK~~~~~

GfS

P.S. Or is that the 'so-called liberals' take on it?
Actually, it's a lot worse...but it involves a WHOLE lot of people...both parties!<--- Not a 'right's position.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: olddude
Date: 19 Sep 15 - 01:01 AM

I hear he had his ancestry dna done. It came back unknown primate

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 11:20 PM

I have a personal code that doesn't allow me to demonize anybody. My head tells me that nobody can be THAT bad, especially somebody that's smart enough to get himself to national office in a civilized country.

Trump, Reagan, and Dubya present a real challenge to my code. I find it hard to think much good of any of those three. But I keep trying.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 08:29 PM

Depends which leaders you're talking about. Reagan and Dubya caused more misery in this world that any manifestation of Satan I've ever come across.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 07:38 PM

Jack, "If you knew Donald like I know Donald, oh, oh, oh...."
The Donald makes one yearn for The Ronald.

For that mater, the whole slate of Republican candidates makes Reagan look pretty good in retrospect.

Yes, GfS, I know the extreme right has been waging a campaign against Hillary for the last ten years or more. Even some American liberals are starting to believe the Benghazi and email "scandal" propaganda, but I don't believe any of it. She's an intelligent woman, and what she says makes sense to me.

And in general, I don't tend to believe that our leaders are the demons that the propaganda makes them out to be.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 07:11 PM

This is the country that elected Reagan, for crissake. Twice.

NOBODY is any more of an internationally embarrassing idiot than that.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 03:28 PM

Joe Offer: "...I'd be happy with either of the Democratic frontrunners.."

Hillary???? Come on Joe.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 03:21 PM

I think Trump has been successful so far by expressing all the bigotries of the most bigoted people of America. They may sometimes be conflicting bigotries, but the bigots aren't smart enough to know that. All they care about is that Trump expressed their pet bigotry - women, immigrants, people of color, overseas manufacturing. He tells the people what they want to hear, whether or not it makes sense.
Since candidates are selected more-or-less by plurality vote, a person can get himself nominated with far less than half of the vote of his/her party. And that's the game Trump is playing, and he's playing it very well.
I'd be happy with either of the Democratic frontrunners, but many of the Republican candidates scare me.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 02:40 PM

..as far as the politics in America, or even on Mudcat,I think this says it ALL!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 12:43 PM

don't think anybodys actually laughing. maybe at the wig. perhaps if he had a revolving bowtie and a nose that lit up.....but then he'd lose all credibility.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 12:42 PM

I think of Clinton as right of center for a Democrat here...

And McGrath, that is my precise fear. And a Trek reference.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 12:39 PM

After Bush, nothing surprises us. Those whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.

But it's a bit frightening watching it happen.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 10:34 AM

Kampervan (upthread) said, in part:

Being a successful businessman and making a lot of money
do not, in themselves. make a good politician.

On NPR I heard an analysis of Trump's "qualifications". As
I recall, the highlights of the analysis included the following:

Number one that I can recall is that he got his money start
the easy way: He inherited forty million dollars!
That was maybe 30 years ago, maybe longer.

He used that inherited windfall in various businesses.
His corporations have filed bankruptcy seventeen times
(I believe it was)over the years in his unfocused set
of business operations.

The AVERAGE stock investor, investing $40 million in a general diversified stock portfolio, just letting the stock market do its thing, riding along with the general growth of market averages, could expect to grow his holdings' value something like 9% per year, compounded. That doesn't require an investment superstar, nor a talented business executive; just an ordinary passive buy-and-hold stockholder, exercising ordinary prudence.

Trump's enterprises have indeed increased their value and made
him a richer man, but the degree of growth doesn't even come
close to what an average stock investor would have realized by maintaining a passive diversified stock position.

In my book, that doesn't make him "a successful businessman."
Even if it did, Kampervan's comment is true, although an
understatement.

Dave Oesterreich