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BS: Fear WITH Guns

GUEST,# 28 Jan 16 - 11:35 AM
Greg F. 28 Jan 16 - 10:26 AM
GUEST,# 28 Jan 16 - 09:44 AM
GUEST,Woodcock 22 Jan 16 - 04:41 PM
olddude 08 Jan 16 - 06:48 PM
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gnu 08 Jan 16 - 03:03 PM
Rapparee 08 Jan 16 - 01:30 AM
olddude 07 Jan 16 - 08:59 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: GUEST,#
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 11:35 AM

One can but hope, Greg.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 10:26 AM

Has Ms. Bond been nominated as a Darwin Award contender?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: GUEST,#
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 09:44 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/02/18/woman-kills-self-adjusting-bra-holster/23640143/

It's an old story (a year old), but there's a lesson for many in it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: GUEST,Woodcock
Date: 22 Jan 16 - 04:41 PM

These people behaved like savages
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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 08 Jan 16 - 06:48 PM

Next ya will tell me the Remington 700 is the best rifle ever made, and I will have to agree :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 08 Jan 16 - 06:44 PM

I bagged more grouse, pheasant and Woodcock than sand in the Sahara with my 870.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 08 Jan 16 - 06:42 PM

I can smell the vodka from here gnu. Only shotgun is the Remington 870, all others are well not Remington 870 s


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jan 16 - 03:03 PM

Shotguns? Youse don't know shotguns fer shite. 870? Ithica? Pfffft! Baikal man here. O/U full over modified 12 with double triggers. Them Ruskies know how to build a shotgun. Light and accurate and chambered/barreled for close cover for small game. Slugs? Knock a hole in a hole at 100m with the full. My Bro, a European champion skeet shooter had a Browning that now costs over $30k Canuck (just to start with the plain Jane) couldn't keep up with me in the bush with my second hand Baikal that I paid $300 for, second hand.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jan 16 - 01:30 AM

Ebbie, most towns in the Olde Weste -- including Tombstone, Dodge City, Ellsworth, and El Paso -- forbade the carrying of firearms. You were to check them somewhere when you came into town and pick them up when you left.   By the way, the towns included Juneau.

Old dude, check out the .950 SJS.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 08:59 PM

Ebbie since open carry will be an option, forget the handguns, lets all lug shotguns.. Forget those pea shooters and go wells Fargo stagecoach on em


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 08:56 PM

Got it, I put it on your credit card is that ok rap


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 08:31 PM

I've been reading about the newly - and widespread - made legal ablity to 'open carry'. have a couple of thoughts that segue from this thread topic a bit:

Remember in the old movies when the bar sign advised armed men to 'Park your sidearm here', or something of that nature? What makes today's gun packers think that our society is more peaceable than it used to be?

Second thought:

If we must allow open carry at our grocer's, our theaters, our sports arenas,et al, why not allow it in our legislatures, our police stations, and other regulated places. Surely it is not because our legislators and police officers are afraid of people with guns?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 08:22 PM

And cheap guy's only 45k wow I on it, yes the 500 nitro double


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 07:01 PM

Get yourself a Holland & Holland .500 Nitro Express, Dan. Guaranteed bloody nose with every shot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 06:53 PM

Nicer ones here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 06:51 PM

Oh boy love it


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 06:48 PM

My brother has a Baikal double rifle in .45-70, but I don't think he's willing to part with it just yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 05:37 PM

Now I want a British double barrel rifle like the elephant hunters used on safari.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 05:35 PM

Sorry rap just bought it, you missed the boat


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 05:24 PM

Of course, if you wish to give me a Purdey or a Woodward I wouldn't refuse it.... Drake is selling one that would be quite acceptable:

Woodward, London. Superb pair of light weight 20ga. O/U sidelock game guns made for King Carol II of Romania in 1937. Weight: 6 Lbs. Stock Dimensions: 15"x 1 3/8"x 2 ¾"x ¼" cast-off. Fine 27" Vickers Steel barrels with original 2 ¾" chambers have mint bores (both barrels of both guns all measure .615"). Gun #1 is choked .018"/.008" with minimum wall thickness .027"/.029" and Gun #2 is choked .023"/.016"with minimum wall thickness .027"/.028". Both sets of barrels retain most of the original black finish. Both actions and locks retain much of the original hardening color and are mechanically perfect with barrels tight and on-the-face. All engraving crisp and showing no signs of wear. Original, nicely figured, semi-pistol grip stocks and splinter forends have slight wear but no major flaws. Pistol grip caps are of horn. Originally supplied from Woodward with double triggers they were later converted to Purdey single triggers. During the years shortly after the turn of the century, Boss and Woodward were turning out what were considered the finest O/U shotguns in the world. There was always some disagreement among sportmen as to which was the better design and the consensus seems to have been pretty evenly split. Purdey purchased the Woodward firm in September, 1948, and since that date all Purdey O/U guns, even to this day, have been built on the Woodward O/U action which is a further testament to the excellence of the original design. Overall this is a superb pair of vintage guns built when the quality of Woodward guns was at its zenith just prior to WWII.

They are asking only USD 165,000.00

I'll be happy to provide FFL information for shipping.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 04:27 PM

I saw a double barrel daisy bb gun on the road Show. Richard those a beautiful collector guns


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 04:21 PM

Nuthin' beats a Daisy Red Ryder.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 04:12 PM

My dad had a double barrel Fox, all engraved. Beautiful. Damascus barrel so black power only. I think my mom gave it away. What a collector piece


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 04:09 PM

Wanna sell one rap. I need it for the zombies


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 03:50 PM

Yes, RB, but we can't afford them. I myself have two "two pipe" shotguns one in 12 and the other in 20 bore.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 02:59 PM

Naw the old 870 wingmaster best shotgunever
But your feather weigh is outstanding


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 02:05 PM

Oh I say. Don't you chaps have Purdeys? Or Woodwards? Nowhere nearly as dear but quite nice are the Army and Navy spirals.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 01:48 PM

Ithaca all the way!!! Featherweight in 20 gauge (I'm getting too old for the 12).


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 01:32 PM

Rem 870? Piece of junk. The Ithaca Model 37 Featherlight is what ya want, Dan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 12:29 PM

Kendall is right and normally is. But the sportman channel did have a nice segment on the Remington 870 by the nra last night. Great shotgun, bagged a lot of grouse with one


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Jan 16 - 10:15 AM

Now, lets move on to some REAL IDIOTS in the pantheon of National Rifle Assassination crazies...


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jan 16 - 10:14 PM

Having been, in another and much younger incarnation, a cop, I can agree with Kendall. I knew another cop, a Black guy, who went unarmed into bars to talk with gangbangers. They knew he was cop, and he had RESPECT because he was fair, nonjudgemental, and was doing his job as best he knew how. Once he had to arrest one of them and he did it without fuss. He was one of the best and bravest men I've ever met.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 16 - 11:51 AM

Talk, talk......after Obama's speech there was a huge run on gun purchases with Smith and Wesson shares surging up by 12%. Gun dealers are saying that Obama is their best salesman.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Jan 16 - 11:46 AM

"... amazement at how a great nation like yours can bear to go on'n'on'n'on making such a complete cockup of this one particular aspect [gun-carry laws] of modern life. "

And the alternative is? NOT going on? This where we are, and some of us who CANNOT "bear it" are trying to do what we can. That is what President Obama just did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Stu
Date: 06 Jan 16 - 09:13 AM

"When someone is stupid enough to remove the orange strip at the muzzle of an exact replica of a 1915 Colt automatic pistol, it is a tragedy going somewhere to happen"

What's to stop someone putting an orange strip on the muzzle of an actual 1915 Colt automatic pistol and fooling folk into thinking it's an exact replica?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: kendall
Date: 06 Jan 16 - 07:26 AM

In my not so humble opinion, you don't have to be a Yank to express your opinion here.

The whole bloody thing is madness.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Jan 16 - 06:25 AM

We don't look on it as any sort of 'fun' from over this side, K. We just continue to gaze in constant amazement at how a great nation like yours can bear to go on'n'on'n'on making such a complete cockup of this one particular aspect [gun-carry laws] of modern life. But I know from experience that all I shall get in reply is that the situation has grown to the point beyond which anyone can control it and if we were there we'd know what was what and anyhow butt out of what is your own sacred biznis and fuckall to do with us ·······ad·∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞·in·♠♠♠♠♠♠♠♠♠

& I STILL luvyazall justersame

bugger·it

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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: kendall
Date: 06 Jan 16 - 06:02 AM

I get a kick out of all these posts by people who have never been a cop, and have no clue what it is like to be confronted by someone who has a gun.Survival is the prime consideration. I was issued a .38 S&W when I went into law enforcement, but they didn't give me any bullets! At least Barney Fife had ONE bullet! No one was afraid of me, because I didn't carry it unless I was working at night, or dealing with a known bad guy. I had their respect, not their fear or contempt.

Modern pellet guns ARE deadly weapons. I have one that can put a pellet right through a phone book, and could easily kill a person. Such lethal weapons are not new; the Lewis&Clark expedition had a rifle that was charged with compressed air.

When someone is stupid enough to remove the orange strip at the muzzle of an exact replica of a 1915 Colt automatic pistol, it is a tragedy going somewhere to happen.
Then, there is also the fact that too many towns simply don't worry about the qualifications of their cops.If you are warm and breathing, and can recite the 4th amendment, you are in.(I'll bet, most can't)

I remember in the US Treasury school of law enforcement and criminal investigation, that part where we had to walk down a street and decide in a split second to shoot or not, it was VERY stressful for fear of shooting an old woman with a cane, or getting shot by a thug with a shotgun. You can imagine what the real scene is like.
Anyway, it's fun to speculate, I suppose.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Jan 16 - 04:28 PM

Say whut???


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jan 16 - 04:05 PM

Rapparee original presented a very cogent explanation but woefully left out the racial component.

Endless experiments prove white and black cops shoot the black suspect and overestimate the age of a black suspect more often than white suspects.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Jan 16 - 03:11 PM

Sensible gun laws make sense

Unfortunately, Dan, not to any of the Republican presidential hopefuls or the voters that support 'em.

They'd elect Cliven Bundy (is he related to Ted, by the way?)president in a New York minute.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 05 Jan 16 - 03:07 PM

Just listened, it doesn't shut them down as I hoped but even a little is better than nothing. I love the back door approach of making them dealers hence requiring full bg checks


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 05 Jan 16 - 01:39 PM

Wait bill, one can support the 2nd admendment
And ststill support closing the gun show loophole. Sensible gun laws make sense


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Jan 16 - 11:06 AM

Today, Obama is to make an announcement about 'some' restrictions on gun sales.. like at gun shows, etc.

Watch for the shit to hit the fan as the "slippery slope" fallacy gets a full workout by the 2nd amendment freaks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Jan 16 - 09:01 PM

On Twitter, there's a "#yallqueda". Seriously, they're looking for attention. I'm happy ignoring them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Jan 16 - 07:35 PM

The rural community they claim to be "protecting" is not amused by these outsiders coming into the area and supposedly speaking up for them. The locals want these idiots to go away. (via NPR interviews this evening)


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jan 16 - 06:27 PM

No Greg. They'd have been dead. And they should be.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Jan 16 - 06:23 PM

Arrest the whole bunch of 'em, patience be damned. If this was a "Black Lives Matter" demonstration, they'd all of 'em been in jail yesterday.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jan 16 - 06:11 PM

I doubt whether any of them have the ability to hold down a job. But they will probably want to go home soon to fuck their mothers, sisters, or children.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fear WITH Guns
From: olddude
Date: 04 Jan 16 - 05:56 PM

They only want their 15 minutes, I commend law enforcement for their patience. They got jobs and work to do, they will tire of it and go peacefully


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