BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jan 16 - 01:21 PM

"She's 2 Corinthians short of a Bible"

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 05:41 AM

Well considering Trump. and how most everything he spouts, is at best, only half true(he needs the wiggle room....after all, he prides himself as being a 'negotiator'...)

as to your part: "...the con-servative UK rulers seem determined to destroy the NHS and carve it up for the benefit of the private commercial "health" companies that have destroyed the lives and bank-balances of so many Americans?"

RIGHT!!...See over here, Obama gave us an already, 'carve up' version, which, was for a select few insurance corporations, to 'channel' all the 'law abiding subscribers', through their companies, raise their premiums, raise the deductibles, and penalize companies who didn't provide it for their full time employees, so a HUGE amount of companies' employing a HUGE sector of the working class, to cut their employees hours back, to fall under what could be considered, 'full time'...it's been screwed for a lot of people....HOWEVER, it has given free or close-to, healthcare to a lot of people...who already qualified for Medicaid, a government provided heath-care over here. ...
...Now get this...in the deal with the corporations, (or so the story goes), to get them to participate, they were assured that, in event Obamacare collapsed, that the government would reimburse, those companies, PLUS the profit they would have lost....and all the people are just shit-out-of-luck! ....nor are they reimbursed!!
Now, when I've pointed out stuff like this before, a lot of 'so-called liberals' bitch and piss and moan at me...and never pick up on the fact that they've been duped to think that it's all OK, because they think that loyalty to the 'party' means that Democrat Party's bullshit, is more honorable than the Republican Party's bullshit....so it's OK for them to make excuses for their party, instead of demanding honesty, accountability...and maybe a little lightening up on the backroom deals with 'special interests' who funnel their bullshit through the two parties...(I wonder if they don't want a third party, because that would increase their overhead budget...but that's another story..).

You might take a very critical, objective look at your parties' final policy outcomes, vs the bullshit rhetoric that they used to gather support to ramrod certain crap into law....being as this is a lot of work of globalist corporations, I suppose our two systems will come to a mutual leveling....because the laws are made, not by nation's borders, but by MARKETS Shares...and their borders!!

Get it?
Got it?
GOOD!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 03:27 AM

It seems at least an overstatement to suggest that Trump wants an American NHS.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2015/sep/11/reid-ribble/donald-trump-wants-replace-obamacare-single-payer-/

I can find no evidence of Palin's position on single payer.

Berne Sanders however favours single payer.

Isn't it funny how just as the USA shows glimmerings of enlightenment, the con-servative UK rulers seem determined to destroy the NHS and carve it up for the benefit of the private commercial "health" companies that have destroyed the lives and bank-balances of so many Americans?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 01:30 AM

Richard, There is nothing wrong with a NHS...but as my post indicated, "the HUGE unspoken concern, is what do they want to implement with their 'new program' to go with it."
Right now, in this country, the general population does NOT trust what is coming out of Washington, nor the elected people pushing things that infringe on our freedoms. I believe this is evident by the fact that all the front runners allegedly NOT part of the 'establishment politicians'. It seems that BOTH parties promise this and that, but consistently fail to deliver.
You'd think that Obama's presidency favored an agenda that leaned toward socialism....but every time he delivered, including his 'healthcare plan', was a ruse, to funnel the insurance corporations, business under penalty of law...as he did with 'alternative energy sources', and signing an exemption for Monsanto, for any damages resulting from GMO's..while his Ol' Lady is lecturing the people on, eating more 'natural foods'....and so on and so forth.
Trump on the other hand, is full of a lot of vitriolic rhetoric, which SOUNDS like he is identifying with the public, but he is rather short on the details on how to accomplish any of it. So, it would be fair to assume, that even though he claims to favor a single payer healthcare plan, nobody can really tell if there is some other agenda up his sleeve, other than wanting to be president for a personal self indulgence.
Another problem, over here, is that while a NHS SOUNDS like a good deal, the track record isn't too swift on the governments handling of such things, witness the 'healthcare' debacle, run by the government, for our veterans, which has been a national disgrace, inundated with fraud, scandals, cover-ups, and no criminal accountability...The same may be said for Hillary's obvious, and nationally televised, criminal behaviors of influence peddling and paid for preferential treatments to foreign countries, corporations, and politicians through the Clinton Foundation, while she was Secretary of State.
Personally, I think that IF Washington wants at least SOME trust back from the citizens, they are going to HAVE TO act as if there is at least SOME concern for the ways they have let stuff gone by, without accountability or consequences...and quit letting 'politics as usual' be their 'guiding light'!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 12:34 AM

Never under estimate the power of large quantities of stupid people!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 11:53 PM

Surely that is wrong isn't it? Surely the basic view of both of them is that the rich should live and the poor must die (apologies to "All my trials"). If both want a proper NHS they must be less stupid than they generally appear.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 10:02 PM

One thing that Sanders and Trump have in common..They both want to get rid of Obamacare, and go with a single payer program...the HUGE unspoken concern, is what do they want to implement with their 'new program' to go with it.

Could be scary.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 08:59 PM

greed with oldude (rather to my surprise) and Greg.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 05:01 PM

Get back under the bridge....


GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 03:49 PM

Stupid enough to be you, Goofus?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 03:12 PM

You're right...Finally!!....let's not drift the thread!....As so far as Trumpo...I agree with, Dan, "The guy says he will do this and that to world leaders and is afraid of a little blond girl asking him hard questions.. Yeah, how fucking stupid can our people be..."

Stupid enough to support Hillary?????

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 02:24 PM

how fucking stupid can our people be to have so many
Support the creep

Republican education cuts of the last 30 years bearing fruit, Dan. They've raised up a generation or two that are entirely incapable of critical thought - too busy watching reality[sic] TV and texting and staring at their Oi!phones as they walk out in front of traffic.

Reaping the whirlwind.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: olddude
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 12:29 PM

I guess trump just backed out of the debate Thursday because megyn Kelly will host it. The guy says he will do this and that to world leaders and is afraid of a little blond girl asking him hard questions.. Yeah, how fucking stupid can our people be to have so many
Support the creep

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 10:38 AM

Is this the same goofus who a little bit down the page was so concerned about thread drift that he wouldn't provide irrefutable evidence against HRC? Hmmmm?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 09:49 AM

I suspect you may just dismiss it all

You suspect correctly, Goofus. Its complete bullshit.

Now, on to those mass shootings staged by the Federal Government to give them an excuse to impose martial law and take away our guns......

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 12:39 AM

Bugliosi may have gone though the skewed Warren Report with a 'fine toothed comb....it's not like Manson decided to confess to his crimes...after all he(Manson) had his life in front of him, and he was still pretty young, and wanted his freedom....but what if he was dying? Do you think he might have 'fessed up'???

I wonder if Bugliosi, interviewed people who were actually there??

Here are two links, which you may find interesting

First I went to This which, in the 'comments', after the first article, seems to refute the article, but then brings out some additional stuff, that you may also find interesting. Note: This came out after Bugliosi's book.

So here, let me help you out....check out https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=james+files+i+killed+kennedy+documentary&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-004

I suspect you may just dismiss it all....but then, who are you, and why the interest??

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,#
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 03:46 PM

I'm still hoping the Westboro Baptist Church comes out in support of Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: olddude
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 03:19 PM

Amen

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:44 PM

Say goodnight, Goofus.

Like I said, Dan - they wouldn't recognize the actual teachings of Jesus if those teachings reared up on their hind legs & bit 'em on the ass.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:34 PM

Yeah, sorta like the political parties we have!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: olddude
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:12 PM

They are the modern cardinals of the middle Ages, they pretend to follow christ for power and wealth. Their only purpose is money, power, corruption

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:06 PM

Absolutely! Real "Christians"[sic] indeed.

None of them have apparently actually read the New Testament.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,#
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 01:34 PM

"Evangelical leader Jerry Falwell Jr. endorses Trump"

That's a news headline. We are fast approaching statistical certainty that the apple seldom falls far from the tree.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 12:57 PM

Check it out [Goofus], then get back to us.

Some chance, Lighter.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Lighter
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 12:19 PM

Bugliosi offers 1,600 pages of facts, GfS, including photos, documentation, and a detailed refutation of the conspiracy theories.

Check it out, then get back to us.

Remember, the abridged version is on CD for your convenience.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 08:55 AM

That's the ticket, Goofus: "Facts? So What??"

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 01:10 AM

Actually, Trump and Sanders are alarming to the 'establishment' parties, of which most of you are products of! Both parties do NOT seem to appreciate the fact, that both of them have gained support from citizens who are sick and tired of the crony bullshit in Washington, and the lies and deception that goes with it...AND, which has been sanctioned and protected by BOTH parties!!! I think when the debates started, neither party expected them to resonate with so many supporters, who have become disillusioned with the way things have turned out, with everyone that they have supported in the past...the total of supporters, between the 'outsiders' bear this out, unequivocally, whether you like it or not!! Supporters of Bush and Clinton are abandoning them like passengers jumping off the Titanic!...even though, Bush never got the traction originally that Hillary got....but they are, in actuality, one in the same....and both funded by the same people, along with Rubio(a Bush underling), and even Cruz is being funded by the same bankers as Hillary....(ever wondered what the terms are of the payback??)...

As to other unanswered matters:

Bugliosi did write a book, but so what?? If Johnny Cochran(lawyer for O.J.) wrote a book, about virtually anything, could you trust that the final summation would be accurate???? Hell no!!...he's a lawyer, lawyers get paid big money to represent things that are not true, as fact...according to his presentation of O.J.'s defense, O.J. was innocent.....but he was paid...and speaking of books that were gone over with a fine tooth comb, there was a book, which they made into a movie,...and even a movie on the intense negotiations to get the first book done accurately, with a fine tooth comb....True story...the Book..'Mary Poppins'!!...as long as you're believing in fairy tales!...but then, as I mentioned earlier, a lot of you are products of the 'establishment', which, of course, is the outcome of the coup, which took place in Dallas, November 22, '63!!....AND, there is a passage in the Warren Report, which actually says..'There are indications that elements of organized crime and the intelligence community may have been involved'.....I guess Bugliosi didn't bother with that....or was paid a lot, (or feared for his life) if he brought out his comb for that one!!....AND, so what if he prosecuted Manson....Manson decided to act as his own lawyer, and the case was pretty solid against him...Bugliosi made a lot of royalties on the movie version on that one, too....

On the other matter, yes, I thought Froggie was asking what I thought, "At what point did it cease to be great? Why, and who was to blame?"

So get over it...I am!!

....Speaking of which, Was America 'great' when Hillary voted FOR, Bush going into Iraq??
(You don't have to answer that...but you COULD think about it!).

As far as Trump and Palin, I don't think having Palin giving her 'sing-songy' endorsement of him, added to his validity or non-validity....it was rather much like a cartoon!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: EBarnacle
Date: 25 Jan 16 - 11:23 PM

Trump and Palin deserve each other. We don't.

100

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Jan 16 - 05:26 PM

Trump is not alarming in and of himself. The alarm comes in when one considers the numbers of his brasin-dead supporters and what they would do to the U.S.n - and the rest of the world.

But Rubio & the rest of the Repuglitards are just as bad.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Jan 16 - 05:18 PM

But alas alarmingly popular amongst Merkins - or at least Repuglitards.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Jan 16 - 04:48 PM

Like I've said before, Richard - that asshole Trump is a national embarrassment to anyone with even the rudiments of a brain.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Jan 16 - 02:01 PM

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/donald-trump-campaign-sinks-to-new-low-president-obama-is-a-negro-and-a-half-breed/23652/

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,#
Date: 25 Jan 16 - 01:42 PM

I wonder when the Westboro Baptist Church will come out in support of Trump. They seem a match made in heaven.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Jan 16 - 12:53 PM

The last thing Trump and Palin are is amusing.

And their brain-dead supporters even less so.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 25 Jan 16 - 12:09 PM

Trump is the best thing to happen to the Democratic Party since FDR.

Palin is the best thing that has happened to SNL since Belushi.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 Jan 16 - 03:30 AM

"Well, that's not going to spoil two families." LOL

That old married couple - the Arguenauts.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Jan 16 - 11:30 PM

Thanks, Dean. That bears repeating. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: frogprince
Date: 24 Jan 16 - 06:20 PM

"Frogprince asked me a general question,"

No he didn't; he said that he would like to hear Trump answer the question. I have no objection to your giving your own answer, but, for the umpteenth time, you've either jumped after half-or-less reading someone's post, or demonstrated that you don't begin to comprehend a lot of what you read.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: frogprince
Date: 24 Jan 16 - 06:20 PM

"Frogprince asked me a general question,"

No he didn't; he said that he would like to hear Trump answer the question. I have no objection to your giving your own answer, but, for the umpteenth time, you've either jumped after half-or-less reading someone's post, or demonstrated that you don't begin to comprehend a lot of what you read.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Jan 16 - 06:08 PM

The excerpt is in deed[sic] accurate.

You bet, Goofus. And the moon landing was faked in a movie studio, the U.S. mass shootings are staged by Da Gummint as an excuse to impose martial law, Prez Obama is a closet Muslim & etc. etc. etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Amos
Date: 24 Jan 16 - 01:47 PM

Some people have an aptitude and an appetite for reason and clear thought. Some have an appetite for fear and anger.

The former will bring about better survival over time. The latter tend to bring about decay or chaotic and destructive and unthinking change.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Mad Jock
Date: 24 Jan 16 - 09:36 AM

If the US votes in Trump we all better start digging bunkers as he is likely to push the button just to get rid of foreigners that he don't like much.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Lighter
Date: 24 Jan 16 - 09:29 AM

Any suspicions about the Warren Commission and its findings should be allayed by Vincent Bugliosi's 1,600 page investigation called "Reclaiming History" (2007).

There's an abridged version on CD that presents the gist of it. Very listenable.

Bugliosi was prosecutor who put away Charles Manson. His book reveals the incredible amount of misinformation, confusion, error, distortion, illogicality, cherry-picking, and outright fantasy to be found among the conspiracy theorists.

But not in the Report of the Warren Commission, which Bugliosi also goes over with a fine-tooth comb.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Jan 16 - 12:27 AM

..and one more thing...Frogprince asked me a general question, "At what point did it cease to be great? Why, and who was to blame?"...and I answered him, "Probably November 22, 1963"

Then I posted an addendum with and excerpt from an article. The excerpt is in deed accurate.

Now if you want to get into the whole event(again), I'd suggest taking it to another thread.

Fair enough?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: LadyJean
Date: 23 Jan 16 - 11:39 PM

All I could think of was a comment my mother used to make about certain married couples. "Well, that's not going to spoil two families."

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Jan 16 - 11:38 PM

".....perhaps on a different thread, OK?"

Now crawl back under the bridge.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 23 Jan 16 - 08:03 PM

Goofus, anyone with a pretension to intelligence knows its a farce. You - and it - are simply not worth the time or effort.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Jan 16 - 07:52 PM

Disagreeing with something doesn't particularly make your opinion correct...it only means you disagree.
If the excerpt from the article is incorrect, don't just say it's a farce, show otherwise.....but perhaps on a different thread, OK?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 23 Jan 16 - 05:46 PM

Same old nonsensical conspiracy theorist 14-karat bullshit, eh Goofus? You a birther, too?

Ebbie, its not a rag I would use to wipe my a**.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin & Donald Trump
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Jan 16 - 05:03 PM

"The People's Choice" article, linked to in the post of 4:14 pm is a bit of a farce. Short on verifiable information or documented charges but long on libelous statements, blatantly biased views and sleazy innuendo, it is a hard read. I looked up its history; it is not a rag I would choose to have in my home.