Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Mar 16 - 03:33 PM You need to get over that Hillary email story, Goofus, there is no current investigation, there was no crime. It's all in the GOP and other Hillary hater's imagination. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Mrrzy Date: 13 Mar 16 - 04:02 PM Y'all might find this interesting, about what might happen about Trump at the convention. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Mar 16 - 04:17 PM Sorry, hit the wrong button before I was done: Acme: "You need to get over that Hillary email story, Goofus, there is no current investigation, there was no crime. It's all in the GOP and other Hillary hater's imagination. " Dream on. Jeez what a sad state of a cross between denial and illiteracy!!...in other words, you don't know what you spout anout!! GfS |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Mar 16 - 04:20 PM 'anout'???...make that 'about'...unless you are fluent in typonese!! GfS |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: gillymor Date: 13 Mar 16 - 04:24 PM The Daily Caller So much for your impartial source, Goofus. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Richard Bridge on the Intel Quad Core Date: 13 Mar 16 - 04:28 PM Nobody seems bothered by Trump's direct threat on Twitter to send thugs to Sanders meetings? |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Mar 16 - 04:34 PM ...are you ignoring MSNBC??? I purposely put TWO polarized news sources in my post, just in case some polarized idiot would accuse me of leaning to 'one side' or the other...so take a bow!! GfS |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: gillymor Date: 13 Mar 16 - 04:46 PM On your original post you tied both sources to one blicky, Goofy. Tucker Carlson, gimme a break. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: akenaton Date: 13 Mar 16 - 04:54 PM Real Democracy Lighter? well I suppose that is impossible if an ordered society is required, but the possible election of Mr Trump could spell the end of the corrupt "Two Party System" which is directed by the banks and Corporations......not probable, but certainly possible. The present voting system vis a vis "super delegates" does not appear to be in any way democratic? I don't have a dog in this race, except for the fact that American foreign policy often affects the UK. My chief purpose at the moment is to defend myself against charges of misogyny and give my reasons as to why I believe Mrs Clinton is not presidential material...which have absolutely nothing to do with her gender. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Mar 16 - 04:58 PM Well you must not be able to read well...I corrected the TWO links in my second post, and said that I hit the wrong button...BTW, why did you make a mockery of yourself by admitting that they were two different posts, linked together....you trapped yourself by your polarized inclinations! ..and one more IMPORTANT note of hypocrisy...a Clinton 'talking point' is that Colin Powell did the same thing, by having a private E-mail server....so that 'excuses Hillary from doing the same....BUT what she is REALLY saying, is that the OBAMA'S CORRUPTED Justice Dept. DIDN'T prosecute Powell, when the case was within the statute of limitations!! ...along with OTHERS, that did the same thing!! What is this??? Selected law enforcement???!!!??!! Wouldn't we all prefer EQUAL protection under the law??? ...or more bullshit pandering, one group of 'ruling elite' over the other??? How about EQUALITY?? ALL of them SHOULD have been prosecuted. Gen. Petraeus was prosecuted for FAR less!! GfS P.S. OK morons, take it away!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Mar 16 - 05:05 PM Akenaton, to accuse you of 'misogyny' is completely an absurd, routine political tactic...and in your particular case, given the CARE you've given your wife throughout her illness , for all these years, is completely unfounded, and more of the usual semi-literate' nonsense, which seems to dominate the minds, who are told WHAT to THINK, instead of HOW to think!!!!!!! I believed I've covered this before. GfS |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 13 Mar 16 - 05:22 PM The present voting system vis a vis "super delegates" does not appear to be in any way democratic? Once again, "super delegates" are a feature of the Democratic Party only. The Republican Party doesn't have them. The Libertarian Party doesn't have them. The Green Party doesn't have them. Political parties don't have to be 100% democratic, only as democratic as their membership chooses to be. They are private organizations, not government entities. They can adopt whatever rules they want. If the Democrats want to choose their nominee by holding a séance in the middle of the Mojave Desert, they can do so. Having said that, super delegates are really a bit of a red herring anyway. Once a candidate accrues a majority of regular pledged delegates, almost all the super delegates who may have been supporting another candidate change their support. It happened in 2008. As soon as Obama won a majority of pledged delegates, all the Clinton super delegates changed their votes. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Mar 16 - 05:43 PM Why Do People Hate Hillary Clinton So Much? Check out what Daily KOS and Politifact and others have rounded up. And this describes the "news" well that Ake and Goofus have been drinking from. Misinformation calculated to be pushed forward by individuals in her own party who don't check the sources or the facts. Find out if a meme or article is true before you push it out there. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Greg F. Date: 13 Mar 16 - 05:50 PM I don't have a dog in this race, Agreed! - but then you do have your head up your arse, Ake. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Donuel Date: 13 Mar 16 - 05:51 PM The puppy baby monkey Elephant in the room is another American Civil War. It can't happen here. Or not. Mention of this dichotomy and division of Americans has arrived at a crossroads of horrid proportions. Militias have never been larger. A group called the 3% is a nationwide militia group that bears awareness. A trigger like an assassination or even a contested convention could change things very quickly. Talk f a civi war brewing ten years ago |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Donuel Date: 13 Mar 16 - 06:01 PM (touch screen mishap) Talk of a brewing civil war 10 years ago was academic. The idea of revolution and blowback against what Wall St did are rampant combined with the re energizing of racism by anti Obama forces is a wildfire in the making. Combine the crazy number of shootings and mass shootings in this country the possibilities feel dire. Perhaps this is just truthiness but the concept of a civil war of a different type is too close for comfort. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Donuel Date: 13 Mar 16 - 06:12 PM Thanks Mrzzy, I needed that link. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Mar 16 - 10:02 PM Hey, Acme, not everybody is so 'compelled' to love Hillary the way you do! From EVERY exit poll, in Democrat primaries, OVER 75%..(and upwards of 86%) of those polled, thought that Hillary had issues with telling the truth, and/or being 'trustworthy'. Now if someone points that out to you, it doesn't mean they are a 'Hillary Hater'. Matter of fact, I pointed out that Trump has problems with the same thing, at the Republican polls. So do I 'hate' Trump??..No, I just prefer that a candidate who is soliciting my vote, and those of the citizens, to have AT LEAST some sort of record of integrity or honesty....How do you know that the candidate that you support is because you allegedly BELIEVE what they say???.....Does what they say matter, if they are known liars??? So, get off your trip about people who don't believe in your favorite liar, is because they like Trump, or hate Hillary, or belong to one party or the other, or they don't want to elect a woman, or whatever other talking point bullshit, you want to regurgitate and feed other people. People are fed up with 'business as usual'(read: corruption) in Washington....after all, we have the best politicians money can buy!...and both Hillary and Trump, both fit that description, from one side or the other!!! THAT'S why people have strong negative emotions toward them both. Get over it!! GfS How about just a little bit of an 'honest' candidate?? |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Mar 16 - 11:44 PM Speaking of polls, Goofus, we all have your number. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Mar 16 - 12:38 AM We???..You mean 'The Gullible Deceived Society'??? Who cares??..At least I've been truthful to you...and when found in error, I correct it.....unlike the idiot-logues who just make up more crap to sling at anyone who doesn't buy into their delusions!!!! It is an honor NOT to be in agreement with you, and your ilk!!! GfS |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: akenaton Date: 14 Mar 16 - 03:00 AM What astonishes me, is why people who proudly proclaim themselves to be "of the left" prefer Mrs Clinton over Mr Sanders as a presidential candidate. I can only assume that they think Mrs Clinton is more likely to be elected by the US people than Mr Sanders, so it becomes about keeping the Republicans out of office? If that is the case the US is doomed to the Status Quo for ever, economic and meaningful social change can never be achieved, you will live in a dreary political limbo, destined to repeat the same mistakes, as "Good Cop" and "Bad Cop" take their turns in the seat of power. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Jim Carroll Date: 14 Mar 16 - 04:20 AM "prefer Mrs Clinton over Mr Sanders " It seems to me that it's not the case of preferring either, but rather of stopping the unacceptable. "Meaningful social change" is not going to brought about by any of them at present, but at least they can stop this brain-dead thug from becoming the most powerful man on the planet. We've seen how he operates up close in this part of the world since he took over Greg Norman's Golf Club at Doonbeg and continued the battle to privatise the local beach and sand-dunes for the exclusive use of his wealthy customers - his world view writ small. The only thing that will bring about half-decent social change is meaningful policies that serve all, not new bums on the same old seats. Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,# Date: 14 Mar 16 - 06:09 AM 'What astonishes me, is why people who proudly proclaim themselves to be "of the left" prefer Mrs Clinton over Mr Sanders as a presidential candidate.' I would like to read a few examples of people who post here 'proclaiming themselves to be of the left' or the right for that matter. Maybe 50 years ago I understood those terms and what people meant/were implying by their use but I do no longer. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST, ^*^ Date: 14 Mar 16 - 07:31 AM Guest from Sanity, your participation is calculated to insult and annoy people. Proclaiming your "truth" as The Truth, insulting those who hold views separate from yours, proclaiming other's "idiocy" as part of a your jaundiced view of all politics, are all signs of a sociopath. Akenaton, you don't vote in the USA. Thank god. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,sonny Date: 14 Mar 16 - 07:41 AM "increased and more intensive use of torture" Is that Iran? |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,sonny Date: 14 Mar 16 - 08:01 AM "This report shows that Cuba's treatment of political prisoners in some cases rises to the level of torture, violating Cuba's obligations under the Convention against Torture and under the Universal Declaration." |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: akenaton Date: 14 Mar 16 - 09:11 AM I think I agree with you #. Unfortunately we in the UK still have those who believe in these labels.....as you can see on this forum. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Musket Date: 14 Mar 16 - 09:37 AM I think it's more of a case of some on here understand them.... Your misogyny isn't based on your dislike for a politician you have no understanding of, it's based on your misogyny as expressed on many threads, alongside your homophobia, racism, pig ignorance and embarrassing bigotry. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,sonny Date: 14 Mar 16 - 11:16 AM "We're gonna punish our enemies and we're gonna reward our friends" BHO Hooray for Iran. Hooray for castro. Boo on Trump. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Mar 16 - 01:29 PM A quick addendum: Of all the candidates, Trump and Sanders are the only ones left who represent the two real polarization..one a capitalist, one a socialist. Cruz and Hillary are both funded by a large degree by Goldman Sachs, and Wall Street. Now WHO do you think either of them are going to represent??? The people?.. OR their financiers?? Look, the fix is already in...we've been bought and paid for already...or to put it bluntly, the overthrow has already happened! Now, it's just a matter of them making it as 'soothing' a realization as plausible. People are already angry...but some of them can't figure out, that belonging to a puppet party, had anything to do with it...and that goes for BOTH parties!! You hear the word 'establishment' used for both parties...here, give yourself another clue...'establishment' is just another word for ALL those who owe ALL their allegiance to the globalist bankers/corporations/Wall Street controllers...regardless of party. The 'bankers/corporations/Wall Street controllers' make contributions to BOTH sides...and both sides like their shoes, because it PAYS to be a 'career politician'. That being said, MOST the 'outsiders' have dropped out(on the 'Republican' side). The 'establishment'(see above) is supporting Hillary. Trump and Sanders have only risen in popularity because they are so radically removed from the perceived 'business as usual', and the populace will frantically grasp for anything they see as a 'life preserver'...while the Titanic breaks apart, and sinks! I guess you could liken the two 'bought and paid for parties' as an iceberg!..OK?? Annoying????.....Sorry you feel that way, while being clued into being betrayed....'and the beat goes on'! GfS |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Mar 16 - 01:34 PM Somehow this post got deleted, because it told you the truth!!! From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Mar 16 - 12:50 PM ^*^: "Guest from Sanity, your participation is calculated to insult and annoy people....." My participation does not include participating in either political party...nor their hogwash, to cover their participation, with 'special interests' over the will of the people who blindly participate in electing, thieves, liars, con men, and supporting traitors, by believing what the party tells the people that they stand should for......when the party is part and parcel, of the particular con being foisted upon the particular participants of their party. That's my part!! ...as for 'annoying people'..I'm sure I do....it's probably hard to keep the con going, when some annoying person keeps trying to clue people into the truth about the con that they believe in, to the point of watching them 'console' each other, and encourage each other into stupidity, by having them ignore the OBVIOUS! ...besides, as I've posted numerous times..."I'm not with the party...I'm with the band!" ...and as a side note, Akenaton is correct when he calls out those pretending to be 'far left'...but voting for Hillary, and not Sanders. At least Sanders has a record of believing in what he says, while Hillary can't even remember what office she's holding for what country...or corporation..or foundation...or was that country..no, no no..it was 'special interest'...for the 'foundation'...for "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE, ANYWAY"--Hillary Clinton on being asked about the deaths, of the U.S. ambassador and three others who died in Benghazi....and then goes on to lie about a video, as to the cause, just to hide her neglect.....not fit to be a ditch digger, let alone a President!....."I sent nothing or received anything 'marked classified'"...Do you mean to tell me that as Sec. of State, she couldn't TELL??????..when the E-mails were naming operatives on the ground????.....Give me a break!!! If you believe that load of crap, then indeed you, or anyone who does, is stupider than shit! GfS |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: keberoxu Date: 14 Mar 16 - 01:47 PM Last month's news. "It must have been very loud and stinky when the dinosaurs were in their final days. But it's just that the dinosaurs were dying. The planet wasn't dying." Michael Moore, interview February 25, 2016, page 15 Rolling Stone Same issue, page 64 "Trump doesn't know it yet, but he will become one of the guys that he hates very soon. Soon he will be a loser. He's a very poor man who only possesses money." Alejandro González Iñárritu |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Mar 16 - 02:15 PM keberoxu : "Trump doesn't know it yet, but he will become one of the guys that he hates very soon. Soon he will be a loser. He's a very poor man who only possesses money." Alejandro González Iñárritu Very insightful!! GfS |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Greg F. Date: 14 Mar 16 - 04:42 PM one a socialist. Yo, Goofus! Sanders is not a "socialist". |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Donuel Date: 14 Mar 16 - 05:30 PM Back on QVC Donald was hawking some of his 'new' products. "You are gonna love these folks their great their great. They said I didn't love the women but I love the women. You know who these are for, she's gonna love these, Here they are; TRUMPONS TRUMPONS TRUMPONS they are huge absolutely huge. they are great, really great and over here this is really great, its a trilobite double processor Trumplet. Put all your photos and music here folks. TRUMPLETS folks get them while they last. Yeah they are great. OK Ok how many of you folks like puppies? They are great aren't they well this is greater than great, I have covered the kennel fees from Florida and Ohio for all the puppies from closed puppy mills so you can have a chance to own a Trump Pet. They are super great. You can have them at cost. Get your very own TRUMP Pet." |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Mar 16 - 07:06 PM Greg. F: "Yo, Goofus! Sanders is not a "socialist" I guess it depends on the 'eye of the beholder'...so,(and not a trick question), how do you see Sanders??....Trump?? ...Hillary?? Here's your shot..go for it!! GfS |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Stilly River Sage Date: 14 Mar 16 - 07:51 PM Guest from Sanity, why do you stick around here when you so clearly despise everyone and what they represent? It's the attention, isn't it? The negative response thrills you when you turn the subject to yourself, when you abuse others, calling them names and are as nasty as you want to be. The behavior of long-gone MartinGibson comes to mind. He was finally convinced to leave, and you, too, should consider finding a more fruitful occupation than spewing nastiness here at Mudcat all day long. You're a bad influence on a lot of otherwise reasonable people as you push hot buttons and fill threads with your verbose stench. Your stalking behavior of my old friend Don Firth was unconscionable, and I'm sure that if it was possible to block you, you'd already be gone. Since you never post as a logged-on member, it isn't possible to send these remarks privately. Maybe others who read them will decide to simply not respond to any more of your remarks and let threads stay on topic and out of the red zone. Just a thought. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Steve Shaw Date: 14 Mar 16 - 08:17 PM Amen to that. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 14 Mar 16 - 08:18 PM Sanders calls himself a socialist, but he apparently doesn't meet the Platonic ideal of "socialist" that a handful of people seem to hold in their minds. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump From: Steve Shaw Date: 14 Mar 16 - 09:02 PM We live in interesting times. Just think, all at once we could have Putin, Trump and Boris Johnson in power all at the same time. And It's Five, Six, Seven, Open Up The Pearly Gates, Well There Ain't No Time To Wonder Why, Whoopee! We're All Gonna Die! |