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BS: How to write world changing stories

Donuel 14 Nov 16 - 10:59 AM
Donuel 14 Nov 16 - 03:13 PM
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Mrrzy 14 Nov 16 - 09:42 PM
Donuel 14 Nov 16 - 10:54 PM
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Subject: BS: How to write world changing stories
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Nov 16 - 10:59 AM

Stories share a supportive skeleton . It could be a book, a movie or a campaign.
The elements of the fundamental story, like bones have a particular place and order.
A successful campaign tells a story in which we are all familiar. The more familiar
the better even if the teller is a liar.

The world changing stories are constructed as follows;

The Threat - can be animate or not.
The Opportunity – may be to oppose the threat or not.
The Victim – develop in detail
The Villain – make this central
The Solution – a plan of conclusive action
The Hero – concentrated in one individual

With the economic threat of concessions made by the Treaty of Versailles we know the story in Adolf's book and unlikely shocking campaign. In fact you can fill in the rest of the elements with ease.

Likewise the 'bones' of Trump's story is classic.

Threat = America is broken, Hillary, all immigrants.
Opportunity = Make America great again.
Victim = Unemployed blue collar white men.
Villain = Muslim, Mexican, Jews, Pope, Media, Blacks, Disloyalty, Globalism
Solution = Trade Deals, Repeal ACA, Ban Muslims, Deportation, Build Wall.
Hero = You know who.

With variations you too can write world changing stories.


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Subject: RE: BS: How to write world changing stories
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Nov 16 - 03:13 PM

Rowling made the a villain a hero in the end and duped the real villain. Twist the hero into an anti hero and you have the Sopranos.
Inanimate heroes brings a tear to some. Perhaps you chose to have a victim bait the hero and become the new hero.

Some writers let their characters run the show in plot development but that is for you to decide. Add your own muscles, organs and nerve to the skeleton of a classic story and it becomes easy for readers to stay interested in your Frankenstein creation.

I have found that such dimensional charcters like Trump are har to believe.


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Subject: RE: BS: How to write world changing stories
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Nov 16 - 04:12 PM

Actually it's probably more typical to have the victim emerge as the hero.


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Subject: RE: BS: How to write world changing stories
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Nov 16 - 07:19 PM

The victim is often the hero in westerns, union sagas and fighting corporations but never in murder mysteries unless it is the friend or family getting justice.


Mark Twain wrote a book about writing and story telling

"I do not claim that I can tell a story as it ought to be told. I only claim to know how a story ought to be told, for I have been almost daily in the company of the most expert story-tellers for many years. There are several kinds of stories, but only one difficult kind—the humorous. I will talk mainly about that one. The humorous story is American, the comic story is English, the witty story is French. The humorous story depends for its effect upon the manner of the telling; the comic story and the witty story upon the matter. The humorous story may be spun out to great length, and may wander around as much as it pleases, and arrive nowhere in particular; but the comic and witty stories must be brief and end with a point. The humorous story bubbles gently along, the others burst. The humorous story is strictly a work of art—high and delicate art—and only an artist can tell it; but no art is necessary in telling the comic and the witty story; anybody can do it. The art of telling a humorous story—understand, I mean by word of mouth, not print—was created in America, and has remained at home."


BWL has links to story writing but ya can't trace a MOM reply so I lost it. I shoulda saved that along with the live forever elixir formula.


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Subject: RE: BS: How to write world changing stories
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Nov 16 - 09:42 PM

Anybody remember our own Tabster's How To Find True Love?


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Subject: RE: BS: How to write world changing stories
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Nov 16 - 10:54 PM

can we see it?


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Subject: RE: BS: How to write world changing stories
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Nov 16 - 09:38 PM

Where did my long post go?


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Subject: RE: BS: How to write world changing stories
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Nov 16 - 10:32 PM

On her album called Waiting For The Hero, on which all songs are excellent and some, like this one, positively sublime:

Lines in parentheses are repeated in each verse.

HOW TO FIND TRUE LOVE
Anne Lister (Waiting For The Hero)

Walk into the forbidden forest (how does the story end?)
Fight your way through thorns and brambles (in the nightmare's den)
Treat each one you meet with kindness
There are so many kinds of blindness
The night is deep, and dark, and mindless (is that how the story ends?)

Tiptoe past the sleeping giant (how...)
Keep your courage, stay defiant (in...)
Steal the treasures from his keeping
There are so many ways of sleeping
No time to stop, for joy you're weeping (is that...)

Find the prince, find how to kiss him ()
Don't search too hard or you might miss him ()
Sew a shirt of stinging nettles
Burn your thumb on a boiling kettle, and
Burst out of the cage of metal ()

Does it have a happy ending? ()
Or is it heartbreak beyond mending? ()
Get out of a bag strung from the rafters
Tears of joy with tears of laughter
We'll live happily ever after, and
That's how the story ends.

Does it have a happy ending? ()
Or is it heartbreak beyond mending? ()
Get out of a bag strung from the rafters
Tears of joy and tears of laughter
We'll live happily ever after
That's how the story ends
That's how the story ends.


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Subject: RE: BS: How to write world changing stories
From: Mr Red
Date: 16 Nov 16 - 03:40 AM

OK - I am not that good at stories but I reckon this is world changing:

Trump, invective.
Invective, Trump.

How did I do?


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Subject: RE: BS: How to write world changing stories
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Nov 16 - 09:08 AM

Mr. Red, that is a new genre called micro prose
For example

Polly Anna welcome, meet Pandora.


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