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BS: 2017 reasonable predictions

Donuel 08 Dec 16 - 09:18 AM
Mr Red 08 Dec 16 - 09:40 AM
SPB-Cooperator 08 Dec 16 - 10:34 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 08 Dec 16 - 11:12 AM
Donuel 08 Dec 16 - 12:19 PM
Senoufou 08 Dec 16 - 12:30 PM
Donuel 08 Dec 16 - 01:00 PM
akenaton 08 Dec 16 - 05:11 PM
Steve Shaw 08 Dec 16 - 09:10 PM
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michaelr 09 Dec 16 - 01:39 AM
Mr Red 09 Dec 16 - 06:11 AM
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akenaton 09 Dec 16 - 12:25 PM
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Subject: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 09:18 AM

Speaking for American realities, laws, Constitution and checks and balances there are likely outcomes that are inevitable despite Trump lies, deals and promises.

! Goats don't scape themselves.

This means that many 'Apprentice' scenarios will play out during a Trump Presidency whenever an obvious failure occurs Donald will bellow "You're Fired", to deflect wrongdoing.

2 Government is about NO DEALS.

The gears of Government are oiled with statutes to prevent individuals from making private deals to enrich themselves at taxpayers expense. Usually legalized bribery by lobbyists, tax codes and sweetheart jobs are used as a way around laws to prevent corruption.

3 Collusion Confusion

If the Justice Dept., the FBI, a foreign power and the executive branch try to collude they will quickly become hungry lifeboat survivors and turn on each other in great confusion and scandal.


4 Cover up the corrupt

The urge to cover up will be so great it will not be resisted. With so many like minded "friends" in the administration thy will forget the connective tissue of government is the lowly civil servant who will feel compelled to do the right thing.


5 Misdemeanors, misdeeds and treasonous crime.

Again the high crimes will not be prosecuted but the usual campaign lies will not hold back the pressure of one tiny little cover up.


6 Rake in the Fake

Fake news will so aggravate Main St. to Wall St. Commerce, that it will bite the advocates of conspiracy theorist proponents in the ass.






YOUR Reasonable predictions or full goose bonker predictions are welcome. The strange has become common place.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Mr Red
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 09:40 AM

My prediction?

1) We will have weather, lots of it.

2) We will have money, not much of it

3) E-Residency will blossom (fancy Estonia anyone?)

4) King Boris will meet Trumpy. And both will choke on humble pie. &/Or compare blond hair-dyes.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 10:34 AM

My prediction is 2017 won't get any better, and we will probably look back on 2016 as a good year.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 11:12 AM

By the end of 2017, President Pence will be well on his way to having replaced the members of former President Trump's cabinet with conservative but, at least, qualified individuals.

Afterwards, the US and the world will settle into three years of a presidency remarkably similar to that of Gerald Ford, until Pence is replaced by President Warren in 2020.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 12:19 PM

Wow, lots of weather. LOTS?
We usually just get some annual weather of the once in 500 years variety.

Estonia is just a wanna be. Did you know that Utah has the banking and shell Company status greater than DC home offices and off shore islands combined.

Bwl You have POTUS DJT erg (sic) ... -$- APUS > 11 mo. ! HFSHT
PM in quantum code 1-20-'17.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Senoufou
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 12:30 PM

There will no doubt be more and yet more displaced people, refugees and migrants of various kinds trying to reach a stable, peaceful place where they can find shelter and enough to eat. And hardly any of them will succeed. And those who stay in their lands in dire poverty and want will no doubt continue to scrape some sort of existence.
Those of us in a more fortunate position will continue to overeat, over-consume goods and pollute the planet yet more, disregarding the rest of the world.
'Twas ever thus... and 2017 will be no different.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 01:00 PM

Lets bring all the industrial cess pools we shipped over seas back to the good ol USA.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 05:11 PM

Climate change will never be reversed until we realise that "progress" is not progress at all.

We will continue to pollute the planet while we produce more and more consumables......and weapons of war of course.
While we refuse to recognise that the lifestyle many of us have become used to is not sustainable even in the very short term.

The problems demand some very draconian answers which will not be welcomed by our "liberal" brethren......if indeed there are any answers available. Perhaps some great international disaster would knock us back a century, but that is unlikely.

In my memory we inhabited a world where we worked to survive, we took responsibility for our families and the words right and wrong were not seen as terms of abuse.

It is a cliché I suppose, but we have lost our sense of community, the extended family and replaced it by the dogma of self.

For all its faults, Castro's Cuba was a reflection of what life could
be if it had been allowed to flourish.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 09:10 PM

My prediction is that we will all die. I refuse to disclose to individuals precisely when.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: frogprince
Date: 08 Dec 16 - 10:00 PM

Hey, Steve: These are supposed to be predictions specific to 2017; I really do hope you're wrong.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: michaelr
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 01:39 AM

I thoroughly agree with ake's post.

Donuel: goats don't scape themselves I love that! Best laugh of the day.

Yogi Berra: It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 06:11 AM

Paraphrasing Yogi Berra:   It'll be deja vu, all over again.

For all its faults, Castro's Cuba was a reflection of what life could be if it had been allowed to flourish.

Bit like aspects of the UK during WW2 - human health & fitness, pace of innovation.
Yea we need a monstrous bogeyman to threaten the world and we will knuckle down and tighten our belts. Ain'ta gonna happen - PAL!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 07:00 AM

I predict Steve will continue to be a hard bitten realist in 2017.
DMcG will retain his finesse.
The rest of us will be ahead or behind the curve on most things

General Mattis 'Maddog and Englishmen' will make a Cosmic discovery.

I predict Quatrains are all full of shit.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 09:25 AM

1. There will be blue skies and wonderful days.
2. There will also be days of simply awful weather.
3. People will continue to sing and play music.
4. People will visit other countries and return home.
5. The economy of each country, and of the world, will do whatever it is that economies do.
6. Some people will be wealthy, other will be poor.
7. During the beginning and end of the year there will be snowfall.
8. Politicians and politics will continue as usual.
9. Children will continue to play and be excited about Christmas.
10. As in Real Life, some will continue bitching, moaning, whining, trolling, insulting, and just being nasty "below the line" on Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 09:28 AM

some will continue bitching, moaning, whining, trolling, insulting, and just being nasty "below the line" on Mudcat.

U talkin 'bout me - PAL?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 09:59 AM

New wondrous things will be found

TAIL FEATHERS


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 12:25 PM

Mr Red....we ourselves are the biggest threat to the world. all the answers are in our hands.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 12:26 PM

Pal!!    :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 01:13 PM

I predict there will not be universal agreement about wondrous discoveries .


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 02:34 PM

Old truths will be revised

Richard Feynman on laws of nature


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 03:01 PM

"Life goes on, and this old world will keep on turning"


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Dec 16 - 09:42 PM

What seemed like a good idea to allow everyone to pay their fair share of taxes be they Corporations, billionaires or the middle class, turns out to be too painful a change that would significantly alter our 1% billionaires very way of life. The shortfall will be offset by classified decree.

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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Mr Red
Date: 13 Dec 16 - 05:16 AM

we ourselves are the biggest threat to the world. all the answers are in our hands

Population explosion being the principle symptom of it.
The answers abound, but who is listening? Yea I am, when it doesn't impinge on my choices.

The only benefit a large population offers is that when the shit hits the fan there will be sufficient small numbers of peeps who have the variation in genetic make-up to withstand the unseen onslaught. That is my prediction for some year beyond 2017.

Hello 2117 - am I right?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Iains
Date: 13 Dec 16 - 02:45 PM

President Trump will be given a Nobel peace prize soon to be followed by canonization.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Dec 16 - 02:58 PM

Unreasonable alert!

Stand by for punishment...breep...stand by.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: frogprince
Date: 13 Dec 16 - 04:12 PM

"followed by canonization." They may have to build a special cannon for the occasion; that bore will have to be yuge !


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Dec 16 - 08:26 PM

I predict that Walmart will decline dramatically as Trump attacks trade with China. So be it.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Dec 16 - 09:00 AM

I predict that Walmart will do better than almost all other retailers in any retail crisis other than people suddenly paying more for extra service and US crafted goods.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Dec 16 - 09:06 AM

paying more is not why folks go to Walmart.
I like the sentiment though.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Dec 16 - 09:11 AM

I predict that a vaccine for malaria will start to become available. What a huge number of lives that will save!
Also, (and we're apparently on the brink of this) a cure/control for Alzheimer's which stops plaques forming in the brain will be administered to potential sufferers.
I also think Prince Harry will announce his engagement to Meghan. (I do love a royal wedding me!)


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: DMcG
Date: 14 Dec 16 - 09:13 AM

When we reach the end of 2017 I predict there will be an awful lot of people who feel they have been robbed because the promises made are not being fulfilled, or looking like they might be, whether they are Trump supporters, or Brexiteers. But I also predict nothing much will happen about it until the next election when the results will be even less predictable than this time round.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Dec 16 - 10:34 AM

Senofou, we all know you are working with insider information.

Malaria will undoubtedly be controlled very soon. For the last two years this has been recognized as a triumph of government. Specifically the NIH.

The false loyalty to the man and not the nation will be made explicitly clear to be a mistake. As soon as Valentines day Putin will make a big move and Trump will support it in several ways.

Russia will get higher oil prices, warm water ports and no sanctions.
The US will get an extorted US President.

There is already some push back against firing scientist civil servants who researched urgent climate change actions and other issues deemed anathema by conservatives. The push to not hire progressive professors and teachers has already begun. Historians know how dangerous this can become.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Dec 16 - 10:39 AM

Hahaha Donuel! I'm going to be one of their bridesmaids.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Dec 16 - 11:08 AM

YAAY its good to have answers and give the gift of life































give the gift of life.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Dec 16 - 03:33 PM

Not a prediction, a certainty:
the return of Renton, Sick Boy, Begbie, and Spud. And Diane.
Tommy's dead, though.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Dec 16 - 05:27 PM

I predict that entropy will continue on its merry way.. I hope the Trump will not help it.

I would not be surprised at Bee-dubya-ell's idea that " President Pence will be well on his way to having replaced the members of former President Trump's cabinet....

The man just has too much baggage and too little sense to avoid all the pitfalls in laws & taxes.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Dec 16 - 06:57 PM

Bee-dubya-ell, your scenario may be about the best we can hope for. Even if that happens, I predict that Pence will take us back a good 50 years. I consider Trump a hollow being without a real core but in my opinion Pence, domestically speaking, is no improvement over Trump. At all.

As for our vaunted checks and balances, they may be at a historically ineffective level. If Trump refuses to divest himself of his profit-making activities, Congress may simply change the laws and regulations so that he can continue. And given the appalling mindsets that are currently in vogue throughout parts of our government, a great many of our 'leaders' may just throw up their hands. It appears that many individuals are so painfully aware of their vulnerabilities, so afraid of the punishments that a Trump government can wield, that they may just hunker down and wait. That's how it's been working in Congress anyway.


What do I predict? I believe two things simultaneously: that a president Trump will either be impeached and the process will be begun swiftly or 2) that within 6 months Mr. Trump will leave, bellowing: I don't need this- this is the thanks I get- I'm out of here. There-in lies hope.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Dec 16 - 07:50 PM

Amen!
I mean, exactly, Ebbie! Pence is in many ways more dangerous just because he is not stupid and does not trumpet his right-wing evangelistic attitudes from street corners.
   Trump has proved his 'point' and may well prefer the business realm to the rigors of POTUS in a short while.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Dec 16 - 07:51 PM

sheesh. Just now I read an article that claimed that the Republican party or wing of Republican government is purposely allowing Trump to figuratively hang himself so that he can be quickly impeached and Pence installed in his place.

Damn.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Mr Red
Date: 31 Dec 16 - 06:34 AM

Trump to figuratively hang himself     Yeeeeeeeeeeeees - I see it......

so that he can be quickly impeached

Hmmm, we are living in interesting times. Methinks he will surprise us yet again, and again, and again..........

It's what mavericks do!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Mr Red
Date: 31 Dec 16 - 07:02 AM

I predict someone will start a First Joke Thread of 2017


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 31 Dec 16 - 07:57 AM

I predict that pollsters will come to the realization that the reason they blew their predictions on Brexit and Trump is because people who distrust government also distrust polls and refuse to answer their questions. They will begin to adjust their algorithms to reflect this fact and will consider a refusal to participate as de facto support for the most conservative, anti-government, anti-immigrant, anti-globalization responses to the poll's questions.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Mr Red
Date: 31 Dec 16 - 08:55 AM

also distrust polls and refuse to answer their questions

I think the worst offenders (if I may use that term) are what suddenly began to be talked about the day after the Great Trumptation.

Shy Trumpeters

dyed in the wool party supporters who were too embarrassed to admit they were voting for - well - a game show host.

I predict those same Shy Trumpeters will still be shy in 2017


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Mr Red
Date: 26 Jan 17 - 03:44 PM

Where is Carl Sagan when you need him?

22 years ago he beat us to it:   extract from Carl Sagan in: the Demon-Haunted World

I bet he knew what Trump represented but I doubt he could be that precise in his fortune-telling. But he knew something.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 17 - 07:56 PM

I thought it was Steven Colbert's "Truthiness speech"

jus teasin ya Carl



LONG LIVE EDWARD V. MAY Donald Ist LIVE as LONG.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 17 - 08:00 PM

Carol King will write and sing an Anti Trump song.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2017 reasonable predictions
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 17 - 08:10 PM

Trump's call for newer and stronger tortures than waterboarding will bear fruit in the form of thousands of new tortures like; heating a person's brain with microwaves to 104 or until they pass out, then dunk their head in ice water, rinse and repeat.

New prediction;
Tiffany, Donald Trump's daughter will subject to a Matrimonial Auction without reserve.


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