BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??

Subject: BS: Innaug--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: saulgoldie
Date: 16 Jan 17 - 06:08 PM

Well? Regardless of who it is, the "changing of the guard" is historic. And as a citizen, don't I care about history in the making? On the other hand, *this guy*??? Would watching not imply some sort of endorsement of "him?"

Seriously, I am conflicted. Similarly, about performing. I mean, the honor. But the endorsement?

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Innaug--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Jan 17 - 06:28 PM

I feel the same, Saul. On the one hand I really do not want to be counted with those who support his presidency. On the other hand, I do want to "be there", as I would wish for any other historical event.

Oh, well, maybe someone will call me and invite to an all-day music party on that day. No contest!

Subject: RE: BS: Innaug--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Jan 17 - 07:26 PM

I do not have a television, so I won't be watching the inauguration.

An impeachment, I'd buy a TV for.

Subject: RE: BS: Innaug--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 16 Jan 17 - 08:16 PM

I'll be doing my usual routine at the Y--exercise class for seniors, fitness circuit, yoga on my own. Then I'll eat something, take a nap, and go oy to hear folk music about an hour from home. Just another day. I rarely watch inaugurations, but I did watch parts of Obama's first one. Now that was history-making!

Subject: RE: BS: Innaug--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jack Campin
Date: 16 Jan 17 - 08:26 PM

This will probably make even more history.

Practice by watching a few executions and a train wreck.

Subject: RE: BS: Innaug--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jan 17 - 09:23 PM

I haven't heard or watched one yet, so why start now?

Subject: RE: BS: Innaug--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: ragdall
Date: 16 Jan 17 - 09:47 PM

I will watch some, if I can find it on our cable provider's offerings. I need to convince myself that it will actually happen and is not just some elaborate publicity stunt.

Think "Amendment #25", people. It's there to be used.

rags

Subject: RE: BS: Innaug--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: meself
Date: 16 Jan 17 - 09:55 PM

Can't imagine what possible difference it would make whether you watch or not. The only meaning it would have would be whatever meaning you give the action of watching. "Endorsement"? You mean, if someone peeks in the window and sees you watching the inauguration, they'll take that as an expression of support for the new unpresidented president?

If you feel like watching it, watch. You can always tell yourself you don't want to miss it if he slips on a banana peel or if someone throws a pie in the buffoon's face.

Subject: RE: BS: Innaug--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Jan 17 - 03:13 AM

Nielsen contacted us to determine whether they wanted us as a Nielsen Family to help compile their TV ratings, but we didn't watch enough TV to qualify (they paid us 3 bucks cash, though, for answering their questions). So, nobody is recording what I watch on TV. If we were a Nielsen Family, I wouldn't watch things like the Republican Convention and the Trump Inauguration. But since we don't count, I might watch.
And spend the three bucks foolishly....

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Jan 17 - 03:25 AM

Back in the day, Joe, Nielsen's was not so profligate- my first time I got paid one dime. Dime. Ten cents. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: gillymor
Date: 17 Jan 17 - 08:09 AM

This will be historic, we've never had a President and First Lady who have appeared in soft core porn productions. Will this be the first transition day that includes nudity? They've got to do something as the list of entertainers who've declined invitations to perform is staggering.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jack Campin
Date: 17 Jan 17 - 09:26 PM

Well the inauguration of a Celtic king (or at least some of them) involved the candidate publicly fucking a mare, getting it boiled down into soup and then bathing in it. Anyone know what catering equipment has been ordered for this event?

It's rather telling that none of the Mudcatters professing support for Trump has been asked to perform - they haven't between them managed to demonstrate as much entertainment value as the voice of an I Can't Believe It's Not Butter commercial.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: CupOfTea
Date: 17 Jan 17 - 10:47 PM

Nope, not gonna watch.

If there's something outstandingly bizarre or outrageous, and thus worth watching, it'll be looped endlessly for days, so there's nothing to be gained in watching it live. I've never much liked watching parades, either, unless I personally knew someone who was marching in it. The whole idea of this man as president scares me profoundly, and I don't think watching the inauguration will make this reality any easier to deal with. I feel sorry for the former first families who feel obligated to attend.

I'm wondering - can cable providers tally who is watching the coverage? Some facebook posts suggest that having a tv turned on, gets you counted, and if you have your tv tuned to something OTHER than coverage of the event, you can reduce the % of the audience (and thus piss off His Twitliness). If you don't have it turned on, you don't make it into the count. If this is true, I can run the weather channel or animal planet all day.

But my evening - going to hear Reggie Harris in a house concert. I got my reservation in for that before I found out Mark Dvorak was going to be playing in the area Friday night as well. Reggie wins, since I got to hear Mark two months ago, and Reggie more like 3-4 years.Seems there are wonderful concerts to be had all over the place on Friday night, and supporting live music is something we all ought to think about doing regularly.

Joanne in Cleveland

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: EBarnacle
Date: 17 Jan 17 - 11:05 PM

At this point they can't even give the tix away and the orange one has a commercial on Facebook asking people to attend. It'll be fantastic. The public is staying away in droves so why bother watching on TV.
I understand Putin is flying in to hold the bible for the oath of office.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 04:23 AM

I watched Obama's. The first and, on current showing, the only one.

Tell me when it is safe to switch on the TV.

But I like the idea of switching on cable, live streaming &/or catch-up and even satellite TVs (Sky etc collect all data they can hence the phone connection) viewing another channel just to skew the figures. Do it America, make America Grate!

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Thompson
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 04:57 AM

The amount of electricity used is also a way of metering how many people watch. On certain occasions in Ireland the Electricity Supply Board has had to vary the supply as every household in the country goes to take a break and put on the kettle for a pot of tea when there's a particularly sensational current affairs show on TV; the usage will already be far higher than normal, then there's a surge at the ad break. So if you don't want to add to the figures, go for a walk during that couple of hours.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jack Campin
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 07:29 AM

In Edinburgh, I have this alternative to go to:

Bach/Handel benefit concert for refugees

No contest.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 10:57 AM

Ann Coulter says she's going.....didn't know who she was but stumbled on to one of her interviews with CNN.
It was the end of the night at the Democratic victory party, the interviewer ask her if she was "heading for home"....."No" says Ann, "I'm just going to sit here till morning and watch them cry"

Miss Coulter had been ridiculed and laughed at by CNN anchors after she was asked who she thought would be the Republican choice for Presidential candidate.....she responded immediately "Donald Trump!"

Now that took guts?

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 12:02 PM

Oh ho! Ake, please, please endorse Ms Coulter for office.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: gillymor
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 12:33 PM

Careful what you wish for Ebbie, our electoral college just provided us with one hate monger.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 03:03 PM

I was very impressed with Miss Coulter's grasp of US politics Ebbie, she was the only commentator that I heard directly predict Mr Trumps election to the Presidency?

I didn't know anything about her until a few weeks ago and since then I've watched several of her interviews on Youtube....she can take on a whole nest of "Luvvies", "Liberals" and other ideological flotsam singlehanded and wipe the floor with them.

I admire that in a woman.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 03:10 PM

Gilly, If you are looking for "hate merchants" surely you need look no further than these Mudcat threads, they are chock full of hatred.

Ebbie, in all seriousness what do you dislike about Miss Coulter other than her political views, which seem to be "libertarian right" to me, certainly not an extremist.
Is there something I should know?

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: michaelr
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 03:22 PM

Yes, there is, ake. From Wikipedia:

Coulter is the author of twelve books, many of which have appeared on The New York Times Best Seller list, with a combined 3 million copies sold as of May 2009.[34]

Coulter's first book, High Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Case Against Bill Clinton, was published by Regnery Publishing in 1998 and made the New York Times Bestseller list.[1] It details Coulter's case for the impeachment of President Bill Clinton.

Her second book, Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right, published by Crown Forum in 2002, reached the number one spot on The New York Times non-fiction best seller list.[35] In Slander, Coulter argues that President George W. Bush was given unfair negative media coverage. The factual accuracy of Slander was called into question by then-comedian and author, and now Democratic U.S. Senator from Minnesota, Al Franken; he also accused her of citing passages out of context.[36] Others investigated these charges, and also raised questions about the book's accuracy and presentation of facts.[37][38][39] Coulter responded to criticisms in a column called "Answering My Critics".[40]

In her third book, Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism, also published by Crown Forum, she reexamines the 60-year history of the Cold War — including the career of Senator Joseph McCarthy, the Whittaker Chambers-Alger Hiss affair, and Ronald Reagan's challenge to Mikhail Gorbachev to "tear down this wall"—and argues that liberals were wrong in their Cold War political analyses and policy decisions, and that McCarthy was correct about Soviet agents working for the U.S. government.[41] She also argues that the correct identification of Annie Lee Moss, among others, as communists was misreported by the liberal media.[42] Treason was published in 2003, and spent 13 weeks on the Best Seller list.[43]

Crown Forum published a collection of Coulter's columns in 2004 as her fourth book, How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must): The World According to Ann Coulter.[44]

Coulter's fifth book, published by Crown Forum in 2006, is Godless: The Church of Liberalism.[45] In it, she argues, first, that American liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, and second, that it bears all the attributes of a religion itself.[46] Godless debuted at number one on the New York Times Best Seller list.[47] Some passages in the book match portions of others' writings published at an earlier time (including newspaper articles and a Planned Parenthood document), leading John Barrie of iThenticate to assert that Coulter had engaged in "textbook plagiarism".[48]

Coulter's If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans (Crown Forum), published in October 2007, and Guilty: Liberal "Victims" and Their Assault on America (Crown Forum), published on January 6, 2009, both also achieved best-seller status.[49][50][51]

On June 7, 2011, Crown Forum published her eighth book Demonic: How the Liberal Mob Is Endangering America. Coulter said she based this book heavily on the work of French social psychologist Gustave Le Bon, who wrote on mass psychology, and in it she argues that liberals have mob-like characteristics.[52]

Her ninth book, published September 25, 2012, is Mugged: Racial Demagoguery from the Seventies to Obama. It argues that liberals, and Democrats in particular, have taken undue credit for racial civil rights in America.[53]

Coulter's tenth book, Never Trust a Liberal Over 3 — Especially a Republican, was released October 14, 2013. It is her second collection of columns and her first published by Regnery since her first book, High Crimes and Misdemeanors.[54]

Coulter published her eleventh book, Adios, America: The Left's Plan to Turn Our Country Into a Third World Hellhole on June 1, 2015. The book addresses illegal immigration, amnesty programs, and border security in the United States. [55]

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 04:26 PM

Thank you Michael.....that's very interesting, must try and get hold of a couple of her books.....From your post there are some of her views that I agree with and some that I don't, but I woulf have to read at least one book in it's entirety before passing my personal judgement......One thing is certain, she is extremely intelligent and extremely brave, as in one of her interviews she claims to have had hundreds of death threats.

I put a lot of store in your opinions Michael, what do you think of her....is she for real or a publicity seeker? Why has she not gone further in politics.....too hot for the Parties to handle?
If you would rather PM feel free.....A

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 06:33 PM

Ake, of course you like Coulter. You probably also like Sarah Palin, Donald Rumsfeld, and Dick Cheney. Enjoy the empty stands and the vacant streets around the capitol as you watch the inauguration. And stop putting liberal in quotes, as if it is an insult or a make believe thing - it's real and we're proud to be the superior, altruistic individuals that we are.

The money is on Trump bailing before long, when the work gets hard and he finally figures out he can't wave a wand and have what he wants happen. He can't stalk his political opponents, and can't command that people be imprisoned on his say so. He can't just spend money or cut programs.

Trump will have a cabinet equal to him in every way; the perfect kakistocracy. But that still won't let him be the dictator he wants to be, so he'll quit pretty soon. Or the 25th amendment will get him. Section 4.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Elmore
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 07:49 PM

Two days until the Inauguration. Just like going to the dentist when I make an appointment months in advance. Not scared stiff until two days prior to the event. Barry tells us it's not the end of the world. Easy for him to say. I'm old enough to be his father, and not particularly healthy.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Elmore
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 09:04 PM

P.S. I'd rather watch candlepin bowling.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 09:33 PM

Michael Moore predicted Trump's victory too. The difference is he tried his level best to save America and the world from it happening.

I might watch it, to see how it compares with Triumph of the Will. I gather it's on at teatime, our time. But I might watch it later on BBC i-player, so I can fast forward when I prefer.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 02:34 AM

Ake, I am greatly afeared that you are a naive simpleton.

Nah- scratch that.

Coulter is one of the more complete amoral, vicious predatory persons in this country. The fact that I suspect that she dons the persona at will - it has been supremely profitable for her and I understand she can be quite pleasant in private- does not take away one iota of her shame. I can't imagine subjecting a child or a decent granny or gramps to her presence.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 02:53 AM

For a feminist Acme, you are very vitriolic about Miss Coulter.
I have never heard her say anything too terrible so far, she seems able to expose some of the flaws in the political system in a way that ordinary folks can understand.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 03:07 AM

Thank you Ebbie, I can see you don't like Ann C, but I was more interested in why you don't like her, what are her horrific flaws, have you got examples.....or it simply because she is an extremely smart woman who does not share your "liberal" world view?

Getting back to the inauguration, seems to me that for the mass of people who voted for Mr Trump it wont be viable to travel to Washington. The Republican establishment hate him more than the Democrats, as do the Media "Luvvies" and I agree with Acme they will be working hard to get rid of him and return to the "no change" direction of travel.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 04:08 AM

Oh, she is quite clever: "These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by griefparrazies. I have never seen people enjoying their husband's deaths so much." -on 9/11 widows who have been critical of the Bush administration

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 05:48 AM

Well, that's one statement in which there is a modicum of truth, but perhaps a bit below the belt given the tragic circumstances, but surely undeserving of the approbation heaped upon the lady?
It's certainly not helpful in the context of this discussion.


I was speaking more about her desire for change, her anti immigration stance and support for US industry.
I also agree with her that if the Democrats had the guts to back Mr Sanders rather than establishment favourite Clinton, Mr Trump would not be US president today.
Mr Sanders also spoke out against mass immigration AND globalisation.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 05:58 AM

So would you think people should be more tolerant of Ann Coulter's English clone Katie Hopkins, aken?

Of course it may be that the fact that a person who is disliked is female can lead to them they coming for extra venom because they are female, but I'd suspect that's counterbalanced by the existence of people who are likely to go more easy on them for the same reason, (That could of course arise either from a feminist standpoint, or a sexist one. These things get confusing at times.)

Both of them seem to have similar vile views.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: gillymor
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 08:16 AM

By gosh and golly, why wouldn't feminists cozy up to Coulter who has stated her belief many times over in public that women shouldn't have the right to vote. She is a gadfly with no moral compass who is merely out to make a buck by inflaming the basest instincts of the racist, misogynistic nitwits who buy her books.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: mkebenn
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 08:43 AM

Ebbie, if you challenge Ake to a duel, I'll second ya. In the tradition of Andy Jackson another butthole. Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 11:17 AM

Mr McGrath, there seems to be a huge difference in political knowledge between the two women...I have been very impressed by Ann Coulters depth of knowledge concerning the workings of the US political system......She is almost impossible to trip up, she will take on anyone usually two or three at a time, usually opposed by a baying "liberal" audience and a smarmy anchor like Maher taking cheap shots at her.

I think she's absolutely amazing and absolutely fearless

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Vashta Nerada
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 12:26 PM

Ignorant as usual. Feminist does not imply one supports only women, likes only women, etc. It implies an approach to life and business and politics that gives women equal pay and equal say. Ann Coulter does none of that. The fact that she can be ridiculed by throwing her own words back at her makes her an easy target, to be sure. She is of the ilk of Phyllis Schlafly, Michelle Buchanan, or Sarah Palin.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 01:36 PM

Ann Coulter is a right wing Conservative misogynist and a homophobe
Just what America - and the world - needs
Jim Carroll
Quote
"If we took away women's right to vote, we'd never have to worry about another Democrat president. It's kind of a pipe dream, it's a personal fantasy of mine, but I don't think it's going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women.
It also makes the point, it is kind of embarrassing, the Democratic Party ought to be hanging its head in shame, that it has so much difficulty getting men to vote for it. I mean, you do see it's the party of women and 'We'll pay for health care and tuition and day care—and here, what else can we give you, soccer moms?'"

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 01:42 PM

You certainly do pick your
HEROES Ake
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 03:42 PM

"Ebbie, if you challenge Ake to a duel, I'll second ya."

You must be joking!! they don't call her "the battleaxe " for nothing AND she keeps a stiletto in the woodshed :0)

and who the **** is Andy Jackson? The irony is lost on me.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 03:44 PM

I did my best to watch every moment of both Obama inaugurations - often with tears in my eyes. And I watched every Obama farewell event I could find in the last few weeks, with the same emotion. He's been a good President.
I've been spending a lot of time this week in the service waiting room of my car dealer - payback for my 15,000 mile tour of America. I switched the waiting room television off FoxNews as soon as I thought I could get away with it, and I've been watching the cabinet confirmation hearings. The discussions are interesting, and the nominees and the senators on both sides are all making very reasonable points - none seem to be the mindless evildoers that they're sometimes made out to be.
The discussion on Obamacare was particularly interesting yesterday. The Republicans seem to want a healthcare system that will fulfill all the best dreams of the Democrats. Obamacare tried too hard to satisfy the insurance companies and the Republicans. Now the Republicans are under pressure to come up with something that actually works, and perhaps now they can afford to ignore the political considerations. Maybe, just maybe, they can do their job and develop something that serves the people.
So, I'll wait and see.

There has been some controversy about the Girl Scouts participating in the inaugural parade, something they've done every inauguration for a century. The Girl Scouts generally support the more progressive causes, so there was hope they might boycott the inauguration. The Boy Scouts have been annoyingly conservative, which is one of the reasons why I left them after 30 years. But both scout organizations have participated in all inaugurations since their early years, so would it be right for them to single Trump out for boycott?

So, I dunno. Can't think I'll ever be happy having Trump as President, but I'm hoping maybe he'll surprise me.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 04:03 PM

Very fair summation Joe.......stand bye for the brickbats.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Vashta Nerada
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 04:17 PM

Andrew Jackson.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 07:26 PM

Trump will not surprise you in that he will do things you didn't expect. It's what mavericks do.

Farcebook thinks Michael Flatley will perform at the inaugural ball

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: olddude
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 07:52 PM

Not me, I am sure I have somethingbbetterto do , like emptying the litter box

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 08:42 PM

I wish to announce that this year, I am refusing to perform at the Twump Inauguration.

When we elect Michelle Obama in 2020, that will be another matter....

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 09:33 PM

One good thing about living back here is that we don't have inaugurations for the Prime Minister. They just stand in the middle of the street, and give a short, generally totally insincere, speech.

Coronations are a hoot, but they don't come along too often.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 03:41 AM

"When we elect Michelle Obama in 2020, that will be another matter...."
As much as I shy away from dynasties, (remembering the Bush Family's attempts to establish one) what a beautiful thing to look forward to.
I doubt if Trump will ever surprises us other than to show further depths of his evil - if that were possible.
An openly dishonest businessman, a misogynist, a racist, sexual depravities which put Clinton/Lewisnski in the same class as 'Sound of Music', the Russian Government as backers, a record of involvement with the Russian Mafia and of having employed at least one killer in his businesses.....
What has happened to your country - pity Al Capone isn't still around!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: gillymor
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 06:45 AM

The event's organizers and Trump seem to be working at cross purposes. They're hoping for clear skies today while he's hoping for golden showers.

I would happily vote for Michelle. I thought her speech at the Democratic National Convention was the best one that came out of the 2016 campaign.