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BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??

Jim Carroll 20 Jan 17 - 08:26 AM
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Stu 20 Jan 17 - 09:07 AM
gillymor 20 Jan 17 - 09:17 AM
Donuel 20 Jan 17 - 09:40 AM
Jim Carroll 20 Jan 17 - 12:23 PM
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Donuel 20 Jan 17 - 05:09 PM
akenaton 20 Jan 17 - 05:30 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 08:26 AM

Watching the reports coming in on Irish television, everybody seems to be talking about damage limitation
Great way to greet a new dawn.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 09:00 AM

For the Obama Inauguration my experience was remarkably similar to Joe's sentiment. The warmth of that freezing day was tropical.
The truth and hope of that day was beyond words.

Barak's Inauguration concert at the Lincoln Memorial was so poignant I felt it was the embodiment of achieving the MLK speech I attended when I was only twelve.

Look at who performed for Obama/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Are_One:_The_Obama_Inaugural_Celebration_at_the_Lincoln_Memorial


At the Trump Lincoln Memorial concert serial liar Trump could not restrain himself from lying when he said "Having an Inauguration concert at the Lincoln Memorial has never happened before".

Trump concert featured a country band 3doors down, a drummer, a fife and drum group, piano guys , John Voight and the Marine corp band.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Stu
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 09:07 AM

"When we elect Michelle Obama in 2020, that will be another matter...."

THIS.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: gillymor
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 09:17 AM

The ACA was a bad deal at the outset but President O' had the wisdom and foresight to know that in this case it was better than no deal. He got the ball rolling on something that may evolve into Universal Health Care which is something every civilized nation should have. He invited and has continued to invite it's opponents to join in in crafting it, as it is a massive work in progress, but the GOP had no interest in being involved in something that could be perceived as a political victory for Democrats and fought it all the way.

In spite of all the opposition from the right the ACA is at an all time high in popularity, has lowered healthcare costs and has provided more people with healthcare than ever before. Thanks to this wider ranging coverage and the ACA's emphasis on prevention (rather than those expensive, middle of the night visits to the emergency room that Republicans favor) far fewer people are losing their homes, life savings, and even their lives due to catastrophic illnesses.

A lot of GOP legislators are calling on Trump to sign off on the ACA's immediate repeal and claiming that they'll come up with their own plan eventually. Yeah, right. If Trump stays true to his word (not holding my breath on that) and replaces it with "something better" what we'll have is Obamacare under a different name that the GOP will crow about after the fact.

President Obama is such a gracious and thoughtful man that I'm sure he would gladly live with a name change as long as people got their health care.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 09:40 AM

Barak has actually said he would be happy to call an improved ACA Trump care.

No smiles on the Mall so far. Just wary grins at the most.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 12:23 PM

"John Voight"
Of 'Mission Impossible' (1) fame!!
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 02:01 PM

This morning, I drove past a Trump inauguration party being held in the parking lot of a gun shop. I was wondering why the owner would sponsor such a party. Without the "Obama's gonna take away our guns!" nonsense driving idiots to his door, his business is probably going to drop through the floor.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 05:09 PM

Fed friends went to the movies. We went to the botanical gardens but it was closed.

PS free marijuana at DuPont circle today.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 05:30 PM

Amazing piece of theatre.
As you know I'm a Scot, but the singing of the "Star spangled banner" almost brought a tear to my eyes....how could anyone fail to be moved?
The female singer was magnificent.....no jazzin' up just pure sweet emotion.....who she?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 06:30 PM

A SCOTT ? I bet your brogue is as brilliant as your assumptions are not. I love the sound second only to Jamaican.

We make and sell Scott tissue right here in America. Very Patriotic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 07:07 PM

My best treasure of the coverage were the still photographs I took of all the dignitaries prior to coming down steps inside the Capitol.
They were all unaware of a hidden HD camera, so they all had honest and telling expressions before they came down the 40 steps to the outdoor balcony and put on their public phony faces. Priceless.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 01:14 AM

Well, I watched the swearing in and the inaugural speech. Hearing "America First" over and over again, scared me. With a slogan like that, you know that a lot of people age going to be excluded.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: meself
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:05 AM

Wasn't it fitting that Chump chose 'My Way' as the song for his and the wife's first dance - the most smarmy, smug, self-satisfied, self-aggrandizing, narcissistic set of lyrics ever set to schmaltz ... ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: meself
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:06 AM

"I did it Vlad's way!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:12 AM

Joe O, Trump didn't do the histrionics today but his words, and their message, were right up A.H.'s alley. Scary stuff.

Jackie Evancho was the 16 year old girl who sang the Star Spangled Banner. She didn't sing as well- especially in the first half of the song - as I've heard her sing before; I suspect she had a case of nerves.

I've heard her sing since she was 11 years old (on video) and she has always had a clear, pure voice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:52 AM

""America First" over and over again, scared me"
Didn't watch it but is scared me too - "America uber alles" to a T.
Not proud to say that you were pipped at the post by half a year - the U.K. is well into "put Britain first" for that length of time and I suspect we'll hear th same thing from France shortly - echoes of the same marching song
"AMAZING PIECE of THEATRE"
Been done before Ake - nothing new under the sun.
It was aimed to inspire hate and fear and it obviously worked for one of our number
"Star Spangled Banner"
I'm sure "Deutschland über alles" and 'Horst-Wessel-Lied' had the seme effect back then.
What's happening to this planet scares the shit out of me
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: gillymor
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 07:01 AM

The Nightmare begins. We need to keep a close watch on this bastard and his flying monkeys.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 07:06 AM

Where are the Stauffenbergs of this world when you neeed them
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Mr Red
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 07:28 AM

Gaaaaaaawd.
Couldn't switch over fast enough. Every channel (TV & Radio) that I normally go to there was a special. My choice was bumped or on another channel!
One thang's fer sure, Twitler refused to pay the bill.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 08:24 AM

Seven hundred anti-Trump demonstrations to take place across the world today, mainly organised by women.
The one in London, is already beginning to assemble in Grosvenor Square -
A reminder of what America now stands for in the eyes of its leader.
Jim Carroll

"I did try and fuck her. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look. I've gotta use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything... Grab them by the pussy.
You can do anything."
- The President of The United States of America


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 12:08 PM

President Trump has been democratically elected ......get over it.

It is the only way the establishment could be broken. "The Establishment" consists of two corrupt Political Parties, a fawning lying media, Global corporations who leave redundant workers to rot...and worst of all a spoiled hate filled "liberal" elite who cannot stand the thought of their ideology being rejected all over the Western world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: gillymor
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 01:44 PM

Herr Trump wasn't democratically elected. His opponent got more of the popular vote. In fact, he was elevated by a process that was designed to stifle democratic elections, the same process that gave us one of our worst presidents 16 years ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 02:00 PM

THE WOMEN HAVE IT RIGHT

DEMOCRATICLY DECIDED, OVER A MILLION WOMEN
are demonstrating in Denver, D.C., Boston, NYC, Seattle, Sydney,Chicago, LA ...

UK?

I have said when women rise up great evil falls down.

Here in DC metro is full of buses and Shopping Malls 24 miles away are being used for shuttling women downtown.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 02:05 PM

"America First'" translates as "Little America". So much for "Make America Great".

The girl singing "Star Spangled Banner" (which for some reason my keyboard came up with calling "The Star Spangled Dinner" till I corrected it) struggled hard, and didn't go for the terrible distortions they always seem to do at American sporting occasions but struggled hard with having to sing it in the badly selected key which is evidently officially required. But having the anthem rather strangled and somehow heartbroken was perhaps the right way to sing it for this tragic occasion,

God Help America.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: bobad
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 02:10 PM

From Facebook:

Robert Reich
3 hrs ·

I had breakfast recently with a friend who's a former Republican member of Congress. Here's what he said:

Him: Trump is no Republican. He's just a big fat ego.

Me: Then why didn't you speak out against him during the campaign?

Him: You kidding? I was surrounded by Trump voters. I'd have been shot.

Me: So what now? What are your former Republican colleagues going to do?

Him (smirking): They'll play along for a while.

Me: A while?

Him: They'll get as much as they want – tax cuts galore, deregulation, military buildup, slash all those poverty programs, and then get to work on Social Security and Medicare – and blame him. And he's such a fool he'll want to take credit for everything.

Me: And then what?

Him (laughing): They like Pence.

Me: What do you mean?

Him: Pence is their guy. They all think Trump is out of his mind.

Me: So what?

Him: So the moment Trump does something really dumb – steps over the line – violates the law in a big stupid clumsy way … and you know he will ...

Me: They impeach him?

Him: You bet. They pull the trigger.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:01 PM

"President Trump has been democratically elected ......get over it."
I'll repeat this as often as it takes - so was Hitler
The fact that you refuse to respond to what he has said and what he stands for means you support him, leaning on a "democratic vote" nudged along with Russia's assistance mkes not one iota of difference to that fact
Trump is a phyco thug whose policies have already begun to divided America and threaten the rest of the world - that is what you are supporting - your refusal to respond makes that clear.
Trump has the makings of a fascist; you complained of my describing you thus, but that is what you appear to be supporting.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:32 PM

I listened to some of the marching women being interviewed, they were protesting a myth.
Not one had a coherent argument as to why the President was illegitimate......It was ideological nonsense, "he Discriminates against women"....apparently this is untrue, he employs thousands of women and promotes them in his organisations. "He discriminates against homosexuals", but not one interviewee could give one example.
"he is a racist who discriminates against Black people" again no proof of the allegations

It is all media fuelled hogswash.....the protests are about the rejection of an ideology, an ideology which is based on myth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:52 PM

Just because "he employs women and promotes them" it does not follow he does not discriminate. There are lots of other aspects you would need to look at. Do they feel less respected than their male colleagues? What are the age demographics? Are they in equivalent roles? Are they promoted to an equivalent extent to men, or is the promotion distribution distinctive in some way?   I am not saying I know the answers to these questions, but I raise them to explain why discrimination could still be present.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:53 PM

oh, say, does that Star Spangled Dinner yet wave....


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:57 PM

...o'er the Land of the Fleeeeeeeeeeea
and the Home of the Plaaaaaaaaaaaague

that's what I have to show for living in New Mexico for a while


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 04:06 PM

Following on from Jim, there are really only two common ways dictators get into power. There is either a military coup, or they get elected. Either way they then start consolidating power. That is why the election is only the start of the democratic system: constant and ongoing criticism and examination is probably more important, if anything. So, no, "get over it" misses the point. We can see and accept the election and result of the vote. For all the caveats and doubts, we know the outcome. But that is not the end of of our role. Now, I am not claiming Trump is a dictator, but I am claiming election in itself does not stop people being dictators.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Stu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 04:07 PM

Er, Ake. He likes to grab pussy.

Many of us don't like the direction towa fs dictatorship and nazism Brexit and Trump are taking our societies. We're making our point after you've dismissed and belittled us. You cannot exclude us. Get over it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 04:56 PM

Good catch bobad
Pence will be Caesar's Brutus, but even Christy would take a stab if he had been appointed VP.


The Park Service and Park police had their twitter accounts suspended then late restored by order of ........? as revenge and security for 2 re tweets regarding the typical counting of attendees at an inauguration.

It was said the attendance results and the retweets were not sympathetic to Trump.

Some believe a safety issue emerged on Mt Rainer due to the twitter shut off but now transmits its info on Facebook.

What this is all about may be trolling or it may be punishment for telling the truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 05:19 PM

Stu...I know this may come as a shock to you, but lots of men and ex presidents are fascinated by small cats. They do all sorts of things to them. Its just human nature at work, especially if the women are willing participants, in search of money or celebrity, which was the scenario president Trump was alluding to.

In any case is talking about it ten years ago in what was supposed to be a private conversation an impeachable offence?   Is it really so important?.......Or is it simply an excuse to salve a stinging rejection?

My first introduction was at age 16, by a nice young lady who insisted on showing me where the little furry creature lived. :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 05:26 PM

I take your point D, but these protester are not saying President Trump COULD be a racist, or homophobe ,or sexual molester, they are saying that he definitely IS these things and is not therefore a legitimate president of the USA.

They are not thinking clearly, or looking at the historical aspect.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 05:55 PM

people don't always express themselves well - I am guilty enough of that myself. What I think they mean is that all the information they have leads them to believe that to be the case. Or, if you like, they are thinking with the rules you might apply in a jury, rather than a scientific experiment. A lot of this information comes via the media, naturally, but not all of it. For example the decision to remove sections on civil rights and LGBT from the White House website were not taken by the media. People may differ on what the removal means, but if someone who is LGBT feels they will be treated less well under the new presidency you can see why they would think that. And the same applies to other sections of the community.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 06:04 PM

Too many "ifs" and "maybe's" to start a revolution over.
The election was legitimate...sure they can protest, but not burn cars, wreck houses and stone the police......and they should be sure what they are protesting about.
President Trump has only had a day in office, democracy says that he must be given a chance to put forward his policies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 06:10 PM

"Homosexuals have had something pertaining to their rights removed from White House website"??? I have heard nothing about that.

But where were the hordes of protesters when the Democrat government was removing Jobs and the means of survival from the industrial belt of the US......patting themselves on the back because John could "marry" Bob?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 06:12 PM

I am not one to condone violence, and certainly Trump has only been in power for a day. I am simply reserving the right to criticise him tomorrow, next week, next month, next year ... And I would have held the same position even if Hilary Clinton or Bernie or anyone else had won.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 06:59 PM

http://people.com/politics/trump-white-house-website-lgbt-climate-change-civil-rights-pages/


Ake you are more stable than Trump Sr.
but you are the caliber of a Bagdad Bob.

AFTER today with the global women marches in the millions.

after this unprecedented , historic , bigger than the Bosox celebration, Cubs parade and VE day combined, this demonstration has set the tone for the downfall of the Trump regime. He may be driven so crazy, an impeachment may not be necessary. He could be relieved by way of medical incapacity.

To show the never more crowed DC mall today Fox displayed a picture of an empty mall.

http://www.vox.com/identities/2017/1/21/14336068/photos-womens-march-vs-trump-inauguration


btw I was at two of the marches in purple


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 07:36 PM

"The election was legitimate..."
The election was not legitimate - how can it have been if it was hacked into by a foreign power?
The candidate was now legitimate
Some years ago an American president lost his job for consentual sexual activity with an employee
This piece of work was recorded saying:
""I did try and fuck her. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look. I've gotta use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything... Grab them by the pussy.
You can do anything."
- The President of The United States of America"
He regards women, half of the American population, as available meat
How can the election of such scum be legitimate, given the power he holds and the effect that power has to threaten the well-being of the rest of the world.
You support him without daring to discuss what he is and what he stands for.
You supported mass murderer Brievik in the same way when you announced that he was saying something that was worth listening to.
I worry for my family - you have no qualms about what the future holds for yours, obviously.
I have no brief for violence normally, but I seriously hope somebody has the balls to stop him one way or the other.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 07:58 PM

Ake has such a grasp of American politics, the nuances of Donald Trump that no one here gets, that I think he'd be a perfect fit to work in Trumps cabinet.

That is not a compliment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 08:10 PM

Please take him. No compensation necessary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 09:24 PM

Anyway, even aken will admit that the man's dancing is dire. Savour this With other politicians they have to do faked dance routines to get a laught, Donald does it for real.
............
Actually it's not really the case that Hitler was democratically elected. He came to power through a democratic electoral process in which he got 28% of the vote, followed by some political manoevres with other parties which gave him the levers of power.
Whereas Trump came to power after an election in which he lost the vote, thanks to a deeply flawed constitutional anomaly called the Electoral College.

However "being hacked into by a foreign power" seems pretty irrelevant. In the words of the song "I'm certain that it happens all the time", and I have no doubt whatsoever that the USA is especially active in this way. Like the Russians it had never has many scruples about interfering in the politics of other countries, up to and including invading them. In the case of Russia, for example, they put major efforts into backing Yeltsin, with disastrous consequences, including the subsequent rise to power of Putin as a reaction against the failures of the Yeltsin years.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Teribus
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 02:27 AM

"Some years ago an American president lost his job for consentual sexual activity with an employee" - Jim Carroll

Really Jom? What was his name? Having another "Kitchner forced to resign" moment are we?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 03:19 AM

Mr McGrath, in comparison to mine President Trump's dancing is championship class.......my wife used to assure me that I had "two left feet". :0)

Other than the dancin' your post was typically measured and sensible.
Hope you and your family are well and remain so in 2017... A


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Teribus
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 03:38 AM

"You supported mass murderer Brievik in the same way when you announced that he was saying something that was worth listening to." - Jim Carroll

In Norway, in the political sense many thought that the concerns Breivik voiced were worth paying heed to - in any truly democratic society the concerns of all should at least be heard and listened to - It was Anders Behring Breivik's selected method of bringing his views to the attention of the general public in Norway that were universally abhorred and condemned. Anders Behring Breivik has not been locked up for his political views but for planting a bomb in a public place and committing mass murder.

"I have no brief for violence normally" - Jim Carroll

Hell as like, you worship the "Men of the gun" - your comment belies what you claim above:

Jim Carroll - 21 Jan 17 - 07:06 AM

"Where are the Stauffenbergs of this world when you neeed them"


Given the subject of your bile that comment of yours is both disgusting and contemptible.

Oh by the way from an earlier post of yours:

"President Trump has been democratically elected ......get over it."

I'll repeat this as often as it takes - so was Hitler"


In which case you are repeating a lie.

Donald Trump WAS elected as President of the United States of America in accordance with the democratic process that has elected every other President in the country's history.

Adolf Hitler WAS NEVER elected as German Chancellor he was elected as a plain, simple, member of the Reichstag in November 1932, having lost the Presidential election in the same year to Hindenburg. Hitler was THEN APPOINTED as Chancellor by Hindenburg reluctantly in January 1933. Yet another of Jim Carroll's dearly clung to MYTHs exploded.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 03:56 AM

The electoral process by which Trump was elected was constitutionally valid, but it was not democratic. It did not require that the winner received more votes than the loser.

Hitler of course wasn't elected Chancellor any more than anyone has ever been elected Prime Minister, because it wasn't an elected position. Actually the same is in a sense true of the the presidents. Strictly speaking they are not elected by the public, but appointed by the elected electoral college.
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I find it hard to believe what you say about your dancing, aken. Working up ladders you must have a fair command of your feet. I suspect that your dancing is highly idiosyncratic, which is a different thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Teribus
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 05:00 AM

In Germany in 1932 the Presidential election was a direct voting process which Hindenburg won as he got more votes than the other candidates.

The electoral college in the US grants various states votes. The convention goes that the votes of each state go to the Presidential candidate that won the popular vote in that particular state. It is therefore NOT an APPOINTMENT.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Mr Red
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 05:07 AM

Hey UK
Anyone remember what happened when Thatcher tried one step too far? Marches, riots and Major.

History repeats itself, it has to, no-one is listening.

If we don't judge from a historical perspective we are doomed. It is called experience. And we have enough experience of Trump to judge him. What we say about the current president of the USA is extrapolation. Wracked with uncertainty, because we are describing the possible antics of a maverick. The latter alone should ring alarm bells.

But one thing we can be sure of, the Republican party want Twitler to fail so they can get their man in place.
Anyone who thinks differently hasn't thought enough. Or indifferent to the outcomes.


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