BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove

Subject: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 06:36 PM

....jackets. It made international news, as it was reported here in the U.S.
Permission granted on account of record-breaking heat. True?

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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 06:43 PM

Bunch of wimps.

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From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 09:26 PM

Royal Ascot 2017 weather forecast Between 20-24 June, approximately 300,000 people will visit Ascot racecourse in Berkshire during Royal Ascot Week. (temperatures from 22nd June are between 23 & 25, barely warm by Australian standards, definitely not very hot!)

Record temperatures expected at day two of Royal Ascot 2017 Temperatures could break records on the second day, Wednesday, June 21, as forecasters predict the mercury could hit 33C. Whatever the weather, the dress code of Royal Ascot will be rigorously enforced by officials. It might feel like beach weather but racegoers must be covered up. (yes, 33C is hot)

on 20th June Racegoers remove jackets due to 'very hot' weather

sandra (16C on a wintery morning in Sydney with the temperature expected to get to 19)

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 04:43 AM

The only dress code I'll ever abide by is the one that says cover up your arse and goolies in public at more or less all times and do not be a topless chap in shops and restaurants. I rarely wear long trousers, I don't know how to tie a tie and I have one suit that I last wore in 2002. In my opinion no-one has any right to tell anyone else what to wear.

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From: Stu
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 04:50 AM

You should never wear shorts out in the evening, only ever long trousers.

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From: Will Fly
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 05:13 AM

Unless you're playing for a ceilidh in temperatures of around 30C...

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From: Mr Red
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 05:34 AM

or dancing there!

FWIW a temperature of 35+ C was recorded at Heathrow. The only way humans can tolerate that and above is by sweating. There are places on this earth that, due to global warming, are now permanently too hot for human habitation (without air con etc). I think that temperature is 45C, sweat/evaporation no longer gets the core body temperature below a safe level.

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From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 06:00 AM

The only dress code I'll ever abide by is the one that says cover up your arse and goolies in public at more or less all times and do not be a topless chap in shops and restaurants. I rarely wear long trousers, I don't know how to tie a tie and I have one suit that I last wore in 2002. In my opinion no-one has any right to tell anyone else what to wear.

No one has the right to tell you what to wear, but they do have the right to deny you service.

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From: DMcG
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 06:08 AM

I agree, Nigel.

We go on quite a lot of cruises as our holiday, and many have formal nights. It is always an option for those who don't want to dress up to eat in other restaurants, but the main ones are usually 'formal only' on those occasions. There are also plenty of very good cruise lines who have no formal evenings at all. So I don't see this as them telling you to dress up, but offering that as an option which you agree to follow, or to eat in one of the other restaurants.

You do get the occasional row at the door where someone turns up, demanding to be let in, dressed in casual clothes, but insisting they paid for their holiday and have a right to go where they want dressed how they want.

That everyone else has also paid and opted to go for a formal evening does not cross their mind.

So Nigel is right. They do not have the right to tell you how to dress. But on behalf of everyone else, they do have the right to refuse service.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 11:30 AM

I wear shorts and casual short-sleeve shirts, light in colour and as flowery-patterned as possible, when I'm on holiday. I never take long trousers with me and I only ever wear sandals on my feet. No socks. I've worn socks once since last Christmas, for an hour at an old mate's funeral. When I got there and saw what everyone else was wearing I realised I needn't have bothered. In recent years I've been on many holidays to Europe. I have never been refused access to a shop, bar or restaurant. I don't want to inhabit any establishment that would so refuse me. As a matter of fact, I believe that there are very few such places these days. Quite right too.

And I can't see myself ever going on a cruise, especially one that has "formal nights." I think I'd rather hack off my own family jewels with a rusty machete.

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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 11:53 AM

I dont wear clothes unless I have to... [ right now I'm covered in heat rash ]..
Which means I either remain a comfortable reclusive shut-in,
or venture out infrequently when absolutely unavoidable,
only wearing cotton denim shirt and chinos.
I used to wear shorts but my legs are becoming increasingly hairless and not aging well..

Maybe I should cover my legs in tattoos to mask the blotches and veins...

I wish I had the courage of my convictions to wear black cotton kilts in public.. 😜

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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 12:04 PM

Yes.. fix this image in your minds...

I'm stark bollock naked most times I post at mudcat
during mornings and afternoons... 😈

[pants on when the wife comes home from work to avoid hot cooking injuries...]

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 12:28 PM

Your legs are going hairless BECAUSE you wear long pants. Jeans used to rub the hairs off my calves every winter. No longer. My mum says I've got the best legs on a 66-year-old she's ever seen. They're yet to turn veiny like the last turkey in Sainsbury's. If you've got 'em, flaunt 'em, says I. I often garden in the buff. I have a secluded garden. Nothing worse than unnecessary white bits. Important though not to get confused by instructions on seed packets that tell you when to prick out....

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From: Teribus
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 01:24 PM

Too much bloody information by half.

But pleased none-the-less to have all my suspicions confirmed - Shaw you are without any shadow of a doubt a complete and utter OIK.

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From: DMcG
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 01:27 PM

Fair enough Steve, if it is a holiday you don't fancy, don't go on it. Nothing wrong with that. But ny winge was people who choose to go on a holiday of antu kind and then decide they are the ones who set the rules and everyone else can lump it.

By the way, one of the reasons I like cruising is it is a great way to see UNESCO world heritage sites in many different countries. As with any holiday it is how ypu choose to make use of it.

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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 01:32 PM

Terry - c'mon at least let us know if you wear a kilt as casual wear...

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From: Senoufou
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 01:40 PM

Oh Lord, if I went on a cruise I'd have to bring along a very large bucket in which to be sick about every two minutes.

I don't possess any 'posh' clothes at all. I can't bear to be 'trussed up' and I like loose clothing with sandals winter and summer (haven't been near a sock for decades)

My father lived in shorts (not those longish ones, the shorter type) and his legs were mahogany in colour. He also took off his shirt whenever possible, especially while gardening.

I dread being invited to any 'occasion'. I have one long skirt, not posh at all, and my 'funeral jacket' (hope I never need that!)
It's quite ridiculous to insist on people wearing hot clothing in the temperatures we've had lately. I read that even some secondary schools tried to insist on their students roasting in thick school blazers. Absurd.

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From: DMcG
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 01:48 PM

The last cruise I went on was to the extreme north of Norway hoping to see/photograph the Northern lights, which I did.

It was my sister in law's first ever cruise and i am afraid she needed Sen's bucket for about four days - the return was about the roughest I've experienced. She sort-of enjoyed it though and has suggested a river cruise ...

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 01:53 PM

Senoufou, I'm with you on 99.999% on your lifestyle, dress, humanity, everything, except that by some peculiar aberration you've accidentally voted Tory. Please tell me that you also like Morrisons Signature Nero d'Avola and my love will be eternal. Yes, Billyboy, I revel in my oikdom, you po-faced old bugger you. Tell us - like Jeremy Kyle, do you normally go commando?

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From: Senoufou
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 01:59 PM

River cruise????!!!! We went on a coach trip down to London (very nice, visited the Tower and saw Tower Bridge) then the next item on the agenda was a boat trip up the Thames to Westminster and back. Boarded the boat and, far from calm, the river seemed to have waves, the boat went up and down a bit and I was sick over the side. Again and again. All the way back to Tower Pier. And this in spite of the fact I'd taken a Stugeron tablet before embarking. It was absolutely hellish.

Many years ago I visited a prisoner in Parkhurst Prison on the Isle of Wight several times. Twenty minutes on the ferry. Sick as a parrot every time. Always arrived at the Prison gate with an oddly green face.

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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 02:02 PM

Cruises.. when I was a kid we used to go on the cruise from our side to Wales and back...

then they built the bridge...

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 02:04 PM

We just like to be footloose and fancy-free on our hols, DMcG, that's all. Wasn't really meaning to diss cruises though I can see how I came across that way.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 02:10 PM

We used to love the cruise from Fleetwood to Knott End when I was a kid. Hope they never build a bridge like they did at Kyle of Lochalsh or Ballachuilish....

(Nearly said Knotty Ash there...it's me bloody age...)

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From: Senoufou
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 02:18 PM

Nah Steve, I'm an Adnam's and Old Speckled Hen girl. Although I did used to like wine 'yares agoo' (Norfolk accent) and it was always rich, fruity full-bodied red wines, so I expect I would like Nero d'Avila.

When I looked fairly presentable, back in the mists of time, I used to go topless on the beaches in the Greek islands, Spain, Portugal, even Tunisia and Morocco, and the freedom of swimming like that was lovely. I had such thick long hair I could sit on it, was willowy and slim and a bit of a hippy. I holidayed alone (before I met my husband) and did the topless thing in many places around the Med, but never in W Africa. My husband would have forty fits if I tried that now. I reckon he'd put me in a burka if he could. (Only joking, he's not in any way repressive) He wears a boubou abroad. (long flowing white robe thing like a nightshirt)

I'll settle for 99.999% Steve. It's good to have an odd kick in one's gallop you know. Perfection can be rather bland. :)

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From: DMcG
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 02:28 PM

That's how I understood you, Steve.

Not all my holidays are cruises: not long ago I spent 4 days treking and sleeping in the forests of Madagascar. I suspect you would have enjoyed that, though it needed more organisation on my part than most holidays: we didn't want a very large game of hide and seek.

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From: MikeL2
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 03:03 PM

Hi Steve

You have every right to wear what you like.

Like you I don't wear socks much and sandals for as long as I can until my feet get too cold.

I don't wear shorts these days because my legs have had a number of skin operations due to melanomas and mt 82 year old legs shouldn't be seen outside.lol. Ironically this is caused by wearing shorts when I was younger in too much sunshine.

I have a good story to tell about dress code.
Many moons ago I worked at nights for Mecca at a local dance hall. One of our duties was to ensure that all men wore a tie. !!!!!

We used to have a pocketful of ties in case anyone didn't know about the ban.

We had all kinds of guys trying it on to get in tie-less. But the best one was a guy we knew well turned up wearing just a tie and his scanty underpants. Nowt as funny as folk eh???

Regards Mike

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From: Senoufou
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 03:17 PM

Funnily enough, when in W Africa (eg Ghana, Senegal, Ivory Coast etc) I always wear a full-length, straight, wrap-around African cotton 'pagne' and a loose matching top like a maternity smock, plus a 'foulard' wrapped around my head keeping my hair off my face and out of sight. In other words, exactly the same clothes as the African women. Far from being too enveloping, this get-up is remarkably cool (pure cotton) and keeps mozzies away from one's skin. It also keeps the blooming sun off, as only one's feet and face are exposed.

I cringed when I was last in Accra and saw European women walking around in tiny shorts and bikini tops, as this is so indecent over there. (Imagine, say, walking topless into Marks and Spencers in Norwich)

When I get home, my feet are burned to smithereens in spite of suncream, and I have so many old scars from mozzie bites over the years, it's a good job the rest of me was covered properly!

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From: Teribus
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 03:26 PM

So in other words Senoufou - you conformed to the accepted dress code.

Just think of those European women you cringed at the sight of in Accra as typical "Oikesses" - Shaw's female counterparts, who like him will not be told what to wear.

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From: Senoufou
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 04:16 PM

Oh yes, Teribus, I wouldn't ever want to insult people or cause offence by dressing inappropriately for an occasion. It's just that I don't exactly like being 'trussed up'. (The Toplessness was at a time when it was pretty general on Med beaches, which were crammed with half-naked Germans and Scandinavians.)

The thing about scanty clothing in the Tropics is that it attracts swarms of lusty local men who assume one is up for a bit of hanky panky. Gambia in particular seemed to be a destination for amorous British ladies looking for a bit of 'African entertainment'. These men can get a bit persistent, which one should expect if one goes about advertising one's charms like that!

I also adore African materials. There's a site online called Middlesex Textiles, which sells hundreds of W African cotton lengths. I generally buy about eight to take over to my in-laws. It's a pleasure for me to indulge in these garments when I'm there, the colours are so vibrant and very artistic.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 04:37 PM

Well, Mike, the only time I ever got refused entry to anywhere on account of my dress was in about 1969 in MSG in Manchester, for not wearing a tie. Though I suspect it was more on account of the fact that I was more than a bit pissed and was showing it...

I've improved a tad since then! Only a tad, mind...

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From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 04:56 PM

No shorts for me. I'm not overweight, its just that the vestigial remains of my absorbed twin resides on my left calf. Besides near albinos like me do not take sun well.

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From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 07:13 PM

Double jointed backward knees don't help either. ;^)

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From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 22 Jun 17 - 07:48 PM

Perhaps Royal Ascot will merge with Burning Man at some point in the future.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 02:07 AM

If they merge we could call it Arsecot. Some of the posh knobs who go there say it that way already. You could be on to something...

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From: Will Fly
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 04:05 AM

I've never experienced hair loss on my legs through wearing trousers - which is mainly in the cooler months. If I feel warm I'll wear shorts; if cold, then trousers. However, I never wear jeans. Light cotton trousers in summer, where necessary, and moleskins in the winter. I do a lot of walking on country footpaths and through woods, etc., and wearing long trousers is only sensible on nettle-ridden footpaths! Denim's a cold, soggy option in wet walking weather and not recommended.

Same with sandals - great for much of the time, but not in nettle country. And a confession here: When driving long distances, I wear sandals with socks for greater comfort. So there!

A lady who used to call for our band got a bee in her bonnet about us wearing some sort of uniform dress for playing at ceilidhs. The band uniformly (ho! ho!) rejected the idea. I'd been press-ganged into a band uniform many years ago and stuck it for about 6 weeks before leaving, and I wasn't going that route again.

However, in general I take the view that if I'm invited as a guest to an occasion where the organisers/hosts have determined that they want a particular look and style - including a dress code - then I have a choice: I can go with their wishes and attend appropriately; or I can choose not to go. It is, after all, their occasion - and my choice in the end.

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From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 04:14 AM

Ugh, I absolutely hate denim. I've never in my entire life worn denim jeans. The material is hard, unyielding, drab and uncomfortable. It has to be washed separately as the blasted colour bleeds, takes ages to dry and is virtually impossible to iron.

It doesn't even protect against insect bites. A colleague of mine visited a water garden in Norfolk, and was bitten right through her denim jeans by Norfolk clegs. (We have a unique variety here!) Her legs became infected and she had to have intravenous antibiotics in hospital.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 05:57 AM

Trying to impose a "dress code" at social functions is insufferable, pretentious nonsense. I have a jacket, one pair of trousers with a crease and a pair of black leather shoes I've had for 25 years. If they don't cut it I'm not going.

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From: DMcG
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 06:10 AM

My daughter in law is into vintage stuff (the look rather than originals) and two years had a 1920s themed birthday party. Choose not to go, of course, if so inclined, but certainly there was a dress code and in my book it was for fun not being pretentious.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 08:15 AM

Well here's something. Where I'm sitting right now the humidity is high, the sun is searing and the temperature is 36 degrees (97 in American). The THI is 84, danger zone A wedding party is arriving as I type. All the men are wearing the same suit. Someone is going to die here this afternoon.

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From: DMcG
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 08:27 AM

I agree on that one, Steve. Wedding clobber (and all the other cost incurring stuff) has got well and truly out of hand. Something like 20 years I went to a nephew's wedding in an Oxfordshire hall and they had set out a massive conservatory for the event - a few hundred seated in it. Had the weather been overcast it might have been pleasant. As it was, the day was a scorcher outside, and inside a greenhouse was terrible. We had bowls of yellow liquid and wrappers where butter was supposed to be, and few of the guests felt much better. Fortunately we just had ordinary suits and could dump jackets etc but the main party had gone for the full tails and top hats and were glared at by various parties to keep it all on because of photographs.

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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 09:17 AM

See.. my strategy of the last 5 to 10 years of avoiding social occasions is starting to make sense..

though I've been forced into all the travel and expense of two family weddings in the last 3 years...
The wife would not let me off on those..


I wore chinos and cotton demin shirt...

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 09:18 AM

37.6 degrees, humidity 40%, THI 85. Let them eat ice cream.

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From: MikeL2
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 10:27 AM

Hi Steve

Even a tad's improvement is something. Keep improving like that and who knows..? you might yet attend Ascot wearing a topper - it goes well with shorts and sandals.

I have never been refused entry but I have been escorted from a dance hall by the Police in Inverness.

It was I have to say a case of mistaken identity and the Manager of the Hall guaranteed the my behaviour had always been "impeccable " and identified the correct guy, and the police escorted him out.

I got a couple of free pints from the manager.

Cheers

Mike
Ps Roll on the football season.

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From: MikeL2
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 10:35 AM

Hi Will

Socks with sandals.....very infra dig....lol

Cheers

Mike

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From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 12:28 PM

Another thing I don't like when attending a 'do' is wearing make-up. Why should I? I don't even have any. Or earrings? Or any adornments? And as for those abominations known as tights (aptly named) I don't even possess a pair.
I never have a 'hair-do' or colour it. It gets trimmed every few weeks and that's the lot. I must look like a haggard old witch, and I expect people wonder where I've parked my broomstick, but the super thing about being old is that one ceases to mind very much what other people think.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 12:35 PM

Well it made 38.3C today, 101F in old money, with a humidity reading of 43% and a THI reading of 85 (the red zone starts at 80). Wonder how the wedding went. I know what I'd have told 'em to do with their bloody dress code.

Liverpool are closing in on Mo Salah, Mike. What a deal that would be. A couple of other big signings are not beyond possibility. The only possible discussion this year is who will be runners up to the reds. And no socks with sandals. Jesus told me that in a dream.

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From: Will Fly
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 02:16 PM

Ah, but Jesus wasn't a driver...

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From: MikeL2
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 03:27 PM

Hi Steve

When I wear sandals I have some real scruffy old ones.

I was looking after one of my grandsons and asked him if he would like to come to the shop withme for sweets.

He said very firmly " Not if you are wearing those sandals." Of course I changed them.

Yes it is going to be interesting this year. All the top teams are spending money on what look like good players. Salah could be a great buy.

Man City appear to be re-inforcing what is already a good team. Could be hard to beat. We have a couple of buys and some planned but let's wait and see eh?

cheers

Mike

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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 03:43 PM

my feet are now so knackered with arthritis, etc, i'm shamed to say I wear crocs in the house,
and I'm not even 60 yet..


Anyone here actually wear crocs out in public... 😳

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From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 04:19 PM

I don't wear crocs pfr, but my lovely neighbours next door make me smile. They're very 'Norfolk' and seem to have only one very large pair of black crocs between them. The dad has them on most of the time, but I've seen his wife in them, and then his eighteen year-old son had them on in their front yard. But the funniest sight was their young daughter (she's a skinny fourteen) slopping along down to the village shop with the huge things falling off her feet. They're all adorable, we're lucky to have such delightful folk next door.

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From: Stanron
Date: 23 Jun 17 - 04:44 PM

What are crocs?

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 02:21 AM

They're a sort of ugly, rubbery, stubby shoe, shaped a bit like a clog, riddled with lots of holes in the upper, usually produced in a range of awful colours. You wouldn't wear them to the pub.

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From: Senoufou
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 04:09 AM

My husband's attire of choice is any Premier League football top and some rather figure-hugging knee-length Lycra-type shorts. He always looks as if he's just come off the training pitch at Old Trafford, Anfield or whichever top he's wearing at the time. He wears the appropriate baseball cap type thing, and a cheap, flashy bling-bling watch.

Yesterday an old geezer in Tesco hugged him fiercely and cried, "Up the Gunners!" (Arsenal top that day) He little guessed that it could have been any old team. It was Man U on Thursday for example. Luckily my husband knows all the players' names of every team that ever existed, and can discuss the events of recent matches with ease. He's a bit of a fraud really!

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From: Jon Freeman
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 04:55 AM

"Ugh, I absolutely hate denim."

I found the jeans practical and hard wearing. A long standing ulcerous sore on my lower back has persuaded me to wear trousers with elasticated tops for comfort but I'd probably still choose jeans for casual wear if it wasn't for that.

My other usual dress choices these days are a light pair of trainers (with socks), a t shirt and depending on the weather and my desire for pockets, a jumper and/or a fleecy jacket over that.

Coming back to jeans, I could be amused on the annual stock take weekend at a factory I worked in. The usual dress code (say trousers, collar and tie) for staff was dropped for that occasion. Rather than having old jeans, some members of staff appeared to buy new ones specially for the event and they sort of stood out and at times looked uncomfortable.

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From: Teribus
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 05:51 AM

Crocs, lycra and baseball caps - the absolute end - anyone actually wanting to wander around looking like a sack of shit gathered in at the middle should save themselves a great deal of expense and just get themselves an old Fisons sack.

On baseball caps - nobody, but nobody looks good in one - not even baseball players.

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From: Senoufou
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 06:37 AM

My husband certainly doesn't look like a crock of shit Teribus. He's slim, muscular and has an athletic body. He looks about twenty (most unfair when compared to me!) I think he looks absolutely gorgeous. In fact, when he was in Africa for his father's funeral, one of the checkout ladies in Tesco asked me where he was, and admitted that all the female assistants fancied him, and the sight of him in his tight Lycra and muscular arms made their day!!
I would never say anybody looks like a crock of shit.

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From: Senoufou
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 06:38 AM

Or even a sack of shit. (Sorry, haven't got my specs on)

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 08:02 AM

Astonishingly, I agree with Teribus about baseball caps. And if you wear one back to front you are a total twat and a half.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 08:50 AM

It's 37C here and the humidity is high. The dress code is stark naked with deodorant.

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From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 08:54 AM

THe only thing to be said in favour of crocs is they are made of a synthetic material that is really comfortable.
After a lifetime of walking round the house barefoot
about 2 years ago the pain started to come from nowhere and get worse,
so I took a chance on a pair of Amazon lightning sale crocs,
and the pain mostly disapeared.
Since being diagnosed with fallen arches and arthritis,
the NHS specialist told me many of his patients adopt crocs as slippers,
which he approves of.

Apparently they are worn by many hospital staff,
and I saw a documentary on a trawler where the skipper was wearing them.

Crocs look like complete twat shoes, and are a health and safety hazard
because the soft material expands by up to a couple of shoe sizes,
so they are forever slipping about and catching and knocking on things,
and likely to cause trips and falls.
They have been linked to a spate of serious accidents on shopping mall escalaters...

But they are soooo comfortable...
Mine are black btw..
I do admit to having a pair that haven't stetched yet that are handy for nipping out to the corner shop for fizzy pop....

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 08:58 AM

And I rode a bike for years until me poor knees let me down. I rode 6000 miles in 1990. For the life of me I can't understand why anyone wears Lycra when they're out and about on their bikes supposedly having fun. I only ever wore baggy shorts, padded admittedly, with ordinary clothes above. A man in Lycra off his bike is as stupid-looking as it's possible for a man to be.

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 09:00 AM

At all other times outdoors, my footwear is black steel toecapped leather safety boots.
My specialist was impressed by my current pair
[ Hundred quid Italian boots knocked down to £30 in a sale - bought 4 pairs ]
which he made up orthapaedic insoles for.

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 09:15 AM

As a lifelong serious cyclist until more recent feet & knee problems,
I agree..
I dispair of this new breed of conspicuous consumption fashion lycra and helmet clad bicycle bellends...

In my 20s my favourite cycle gear was baggy cotton trousers and cycle clips, leather boots,
and my dad's early 1950s grey demob trench coat.
With a permanent stain from where he used to wear it cycling home with a family sized fish and chip dinner stashed inside under his armpit.

Plus my army surplus rucksack...

Proper many cycling garb.

In my early 50s, I could outpace many lycra bikers on local roads while still wearing variants of that gentleman's clothing style...

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 09:17 AM

Merrell Kahuna III sandals (vibram soles) or Teva Toachi sandals, bombproof. No socks.

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 09:17 AM

If I ever get back on a bike
the only concession I'll make is wearing yellow Hi Viv
in appropriatre weather, lighting, road conditions...

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 09:20 AM

Btw.. as is obvious, the spell check has stopped working on my Chrome browser....

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 06:23 PM

I still use that on the owld Vista laptop that refuses to die. Don't tell the friggin' hackers...

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 09:51 PM

Before we leave the crocs question,

in the U.S. as well,
crocs are often spotted as part of a work uniform or outfit.
An earlier post pointed out hospitals.
Anyplace where the uniform is a more casual sort of uniform like scrubs,
and where the floors are often mopped and may be damp underfoot.

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 25 Jun 17 - 12:49 PM

Back to the subject.
There were many reports of the "permission to remove jackets", but my favourite response was in the Telegraph's Alex cartoon June 23rd

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Jun 17 - 01:30 PM

"They're not 'jackets,' they're 'coats' " -- that IS funny.

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: Senoufou
Date: 25 Jun 17 - 01:40 PM

I've always thought ties must be an abomination to have to wear, and hard collars on shirts. One's whole neck must feel so constricted and chafed.

I used to wear a tie as part of our school uniform. It was like being strangled continually. I often had a red mark where the shirt collar rubbed my neck.

The whole idea of 'smart' 'not smart' is absurd. Who has the right to decide this and proscribe comfy clothing as a matter of conformity?

My 'sack of shit' husband was out and about in Norwich again today, offending everybody in his abhorrent Lycra long shorts and this time, a Liverpool football strip. It's a wonder people weren't being sick on the pavement as he passed, but I didn't notice any. :(

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Jun 17 - 04:04 PM

Kilts! Who mentioned kilts?

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 25 Jun 17 - 04:22 PM

I have always loved the Jarod Kintz quote ...

"We all wear uniforms, even if we're conforming to nonconformity".

Subject: RE: BS: Royal Ascot: permission to remove
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jun 17 - 04:45 PM

foot and knee problems while biking do not matter if you electrify your bike with a kit or get a finished electric bike. 36 volt is fine and 48 v is good for steep hills. The lithium battery is worth the cost.

I don't care if you bike naked or dress your bike frame in Lycra. The next 'as seen on TV' product might be marketing Lycra as stainless plastic wear for the departed. -ETERNALWEAR!- guaranteed forever.
But wait there's more... you will not be billed until you ride the wooden Buick, cast off forever, take a dirt nap or kick the bucket AND THATS NOT ALL - get your second one size fits all Lycra eternal wear FREE, just pay for separate shipping and handling for eternity

...Lycra and sports fashion is pretentious bull shit.



Senofou, you have an excellent grasp of B.S. the way you call it the way you see it.