BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!

Subject: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 05:42 PM

Harvey is sounding a bit horrendous. Our weatherman said that you're going to get Bude's annual rainfall in about three days. Gird yer loins and hopefully enjoy good fortune.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 06:48 PM

The trumpets gave them warning, they had better quit that place
But no one thought of leavin' till death stared them in the face.

Here's hoping folks in Texas have learned a bit since 1900.

Good luck, y'all.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Janie
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 08:05 PM

Wishing safety for all in harm's way.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 08:25 PM

It looks like its beer o'clock boys/ Its going to be a mighty long night. Drink up and leave your boots on.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 10:02 PM

I have friends who are sheltering in place (Houston) and a friend who evacuated (Corpus Christi). One of her cats refused to be caught so is will spend the next few days alone in a townhouse, okay, hopefully. Photos the Houston friend posted of the grocery store are amazing. On the chip aisle everything but a few of the absolutely worst flavors, but a whole row (they're about waist high in a rack in front running the length of the chip aisle) of untouched jars of dips. She was able to get what she wanted at a local gas station convenience store. I think she has been stocked for this kind of thing for a while anyway, so the beer and chips are just for the long evenings. She recently moved in with her mother after her father died. I hope they like double solitaire or pinochle, they may well lose power for a while.

We're a few hours north of the coast, but will be under one of the outer bands of the storm, bringing winds (not the kind to peel roofs off of houses) and rain (might cause flooding - we've already had a very wet summer, and the ground is saturated. This without a hurricane in the mix.) There are a few of us up in this area, and also a number of Mudcatters in the Austin area - all of you stay dry and safe. And everyone, remember, if there is water over the roadway, turn around, don't drown.

But wait, the story isn't finished here. This IS Texas, after all. The agency with a lot of clout and respect for helping people in the affected area isn't a state or federal agency at all. It's a home-grown grocery store called H-E-B. Say each letter, that's the name. I think the original founder was Howard E. Butts. But for now, find them on facebook or facebook messenger as H-E-B Preparedness. You have to love it.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 10:05 PM

And - H-E-B Preparedness just forwarded the national weather bureau announcement that Harvey has made landfall.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 25 Aug 17 - 10:44 PM

Let us hear from you after the storm. I'll be another one praying for you.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 08:04 AM

I suspect that beer and chips in Texas means an entirely different thing to beer and chips this end. Once the sun's below the yardarm, say "beer and chips?" to me and I'm in heaven...

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 09:05 AM

On this very day in 1986 we finally left Essex and moved to Cornwall. It was the day on which the energy sucked out of Hurricane Charley by an Atlantic storm system swept huge amounts of rain and gale-force winds across Britain and Ireland. Records were broken. Our furniture was going into storage for several months and we watched in horror as the removal people loaded it into their van in the pouring rain (it survived). Off we trundled, two rattled and knackered parents, two little kids, two distressed cats and two ramshackle cars through terrible weather on the 300-mile drive to Bude. I don't know where we got the energy from to do it. But we've never looked back, not for a single minute. We had the same kind of weather on our wedding day in 1976. We're still here!

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 06:58 PM

Public Service Announcement:

Y'all keep voting Republican - global climate change is a hoax.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 07:50 PM

Though I seem to live in the redest city in the nation, most of the urban areas in Texas are blue. It is predicted to be purple pretty soon.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: leeneia
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 11:08 PM

So far, there is only one death known from Hurricane Harvey. The storm is decreasing in intensity, but one minute the news says winds have dropped to 60, then ten minutes later they say 85. That's a big difference.

The storm is slow moving, which means it is dropping massive amounts of water over one area. Overall flooding and flash flooding are great dangers.

Tornadoes are also possible.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 08:20 AM

The rumor is that 60% decided to ride out the storm. It appears that very few decided to evacuate.

Why would anyone take heed at early forecast reports of 3 to five feet of rain? !!!sarcastic!!!

People of 'belief' simply did not believe the news/
Could this be the result of the fake news campaign??
Of course some had no means of escape.

A new development could add another 3 feet of rain in addition to the 3+ feet already predicted. But that is from Lame stream Media.

Decisions were made for children and nursing home folks to not evacuate. I feel for the innocents of this waterclsym.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 09:51 AM

Gee Steve sorry you got 3-5 inches of rain on moving day.

Can you imagine 3 to 5 FEET of rain? This has not happened in thousands of years anywhere on Earth.

I have seen what 1 foot of rain can do in 7 days.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 11:06 AM

Houston has had several deaths from the storm. This is an odd one - it still has a foot in the gulf but is a tropical storm (this morning) and is just hanging out, slowly creeping north (it looking pretty ominous for all of north and east Texas as it moves.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 11:25 AM

Acme I respect your proud stoicism for the Texas do it yourselfism and private sector support. The political meme in TX is that FEMA is the disaster.
All Federal help is frowned upon, until it saves you.

Maybe I'm just the kind of person who forgot the Alamo so I don't have experience with the Don't mess with Texas independent psyche. I hope they get all the federal support that Trump has so carefully planned.
I hear it is the greatest ever.

This will effect more than Chip availability even in the Dallas area Acme. In short...

I said nothing except check your own radar.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 11:47 AM

I'm not a native Texan, my roots are in the far upper reaches of the Pacific Northwest. We did a lot of do-it-yourselfism projects up there also. :)

If need be I'll load the dogs in the SUV and head to a friends house - uphill.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 12:09 PM

I have a Yankee doityourselfism streak. Then the so called 500 year floods came.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 02:31 PM

I just heard on FOX cable News; "Thank God the water is receding".

to be fair and balanced, water will recede from some areas in the same way we still have cold days in the midst of global warming.



There is an opportunity for Trump to become a folk hero by parting the waters with a Trump Train to Houston with 100 freight cars full of Red Stripe beer.

Riding to the City once called Houston
Oklahoma Central, Monday morning rail
Hundred cars and a thousand tons of beer,
3 conductors, 25 sacks of mail

All along the southbound odyssey, the train pulls out of Kankakee
And rolls along past houses farms and fields
Passing trains that have no name, and freight yards full of old black men
And the graveyards of the rusted automobiles

Good morning America, how are you
Said don't you know me, I'm your hit and run
I'm the train they call the Trump train to Houston
I'll be gone 500 miles when the day is done

Dealing card games, with the guardsmen in the club car
Penny a point ain't no one keeping score
Pass the paper bag that holds the warm can
Feel the wheels, rumblin' 'neath the floor

And the sons of new immigrants, and the sons of millionaires
Wait for Trump train's magic carpet, made of steel
And mothers with babes nearly drowned, are waiting for the train
And the rhythm of the waves is all they feel

Good morning America, how are you
Said don't you know me, I'm your sickly pun
I'm the train they call the trump train to Houston.
I'll be gone 500 miles when the day is done

Nighttime on the Trump Train to Houston
Changing cars in lake Charles Louisiana
Halfway home, we'll be there by morning
Through the Mississippi darkness, rolling down to the sea

But all the towns and people seem, to fade into a bad dream
And the steel rail still ain't heard the news
The tons of beer in the cans feel the pressure burst seams
This train got the disappearing railroad blues

Good night America, how are you
Said don't you know me, I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the Trump train to Houston
I'll be gone 500 miles when the day is done

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 02:55 PM

Train plows through flood

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 03:01 PM

like all good ideas...

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 04:27 PM

About 1 in 6 rescues are of people's pet dog. Some video is actually cute.

That makes me wonder how the https://www.houstonzoo.org/meet-the-animals/ animals are doing.

I bet the giraffe is OK and the tigers had surprise snacks.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 12:09 PM

Donuel, This has not happened in thousands of years anywhere on Earth is not true. I was in Abidjan a weekend we got a quarter of our annual rainfall, back in the 1970's. This stuff happens. It's rare, not unprecedented.

Why do we build cities in floodplains, why do we build them so big they cannot possibly be evacuated, and why O why do people choose to live in them?

How much money is the insurance industry making on this kind of thing?

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 12:17 PM

Duplicate post - graphics here, including of floodwaters receding.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 12:53 PM

"There is an opportunity for Trump to become a folk hero"
Hopefully not, as the hurricanes are now being attributed to GLOBAL WARMING
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 01:05 PM

Mrzzy, I'm going to stick with a world record rainfall. It is already the US record. In fact the whole idea of 1, 2 or3 thousand year floods along with the annual 500 year floods is total bullocks nowadays.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Iains
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 01:41 PM

"the hurricanes are now being attributed to GLOBAL WARMING"

Hurricanes have been a regular feature of life long before global warming was ever thought of. Houston has had numerous previous flooding events and it was known that a hurricane making landfall anywhere near Houston would cause severe flooding. The city is cut through by rivers, bayous and flood channels and most of the adjacent areas comprise flood plain. Building in a flood plain by the sea is not a very good idea, especially when there is previous history of severe flooding events.
It will be hard to prove that global warming directly influenced the energy buildup within this particular hurricane. It is more to do with anomalous heating of parts of the Gulf, as was the case with Katrina.


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2006GL026623/full

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 02:40 PM

I'll tell you what is anomalous heating of the Gulf, up 4 degrees this year.

global warming   


Go back far enough and the Gulf froze several times, so what.

A response is going on now and it is a dramatic matter of life and death. If denying climate change will help, go for it. I feel so helpless in MD. It was OCT 29 when hurricane Sandy struck NYC. The Texas Congressmen all voted against Federal help for Sandy victims. Today they are confident Trump and Congress will give them cash as long as they are not arrogant like the Yankees.

Houston, you've got a problem .

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 03:01 PM

"Hurricanes have been a regular feature of life long before global warming was ever thought of."
Sure they have Iains - but not to the extent that they have needed to be named alphabetically
If you have any doubt as to the deplorable effect man is having on the environment, go watch a David Attenborough programme
If things goon as they are, it won't be too long before we are sharing melting ice-floes with starving polar bears - or in some cases, camping out on the roofs of SUVs
What does it take to wake you selfish people up?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Iains
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 03:21 PM

anomalous heating of the Gulf, up 4 degrees this year. FACT

Due to global warming. HYPOTHESIS until proven.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 03:54 PM

god bless you who are splashing and thrashing about, REACTION
People are called an asshole by someone with an opposing viewpoint, OPINION
Setting aside the politics and ironies by extending a helping hand helps one at a time, COMPASSION.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 05:20 PM

We do not "prove" hypotheses. No single event will ever prove man-made global warming. But the increasing incidence of extreme events adds up to evidence. That evidence is accumulating. Over the last two centuries, the graph of increasing carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere (man-made, bang to rights) has been an almost perfect match for the graph of rising global temperatures.

So tell us, Iains. Do you sit on your hands? Do nothing? Wait for "proof?" We'll have all gone to hell in a handcart long before you get that.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 05:49 PM

So tell us, Iains. Do you sit on your hands? Do nothing? Wait for "proof?"

No, just votes for tRump - or would if he could - with the other science deniers.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 06:04 PM

Looks like Anne Coulter agrees with Inanes, Too:

"I don't believe Hurricane Harvey is God's punishment for Houston electing a lesbian mayor. But that is more credible than "climate change."

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 07:15 PM

It is about passion and concern, Jeri. But you know how these things go. I suppose wishing good luck to Texas was a bit naive now that we've seen the devastation. We had floods in Cornwall in 1993 and 2004 but on nothing like this scale. But I saw enough close up to know that floodwater is dangerous, dirty and stinking and comes with an unstoppable, deadly, frightening power. It's a bad time to start belabouring people about global warming, etc. In the fulness of time, the events will inevitably fuel that debate. We're just not always good on timing on Mudcat.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 09:20 PM

Due to global warming. HYPOTHESIS until proven.

CONSIDER IT PROVEN, idiot.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: BobL
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 03:16 AM

Hypothesis? Conjecture? Theory?

Worldwide climate change is an observed fact.
The extent to which human activity is a cause, or partial cause, is debatable. Correlation there may be, but this is not the same thing as causation. A sample size of one doesn't help.
Nevertheless it's undeniable that if we are a cause, and we can do anything to lessen our impact, we'd better get on with it PDQ. It might already be too late.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 05:50 AM

Well, BobL, I agree with your conclusion there, but the degree to which warming is anthropogenic is, in my opinion, far less debatable then you seem to be suggesting. Correlation never proves causality (we don't usually deal with proving things in science in any case), but the correlations are so shudderingly convincing that there is an almost 100% consensus in the world of science that we are the primary drivers of the warming. Plenty of people love to sneer at science, of course. Keep your antennae a-twitching for their self-interest being betrayed. As you say (I think), if there is solid evidence that we are causing warming then we have a moral obligation to act, and fast. That applies even if we don't accept the near-certainty or are not comfortable with the level of "proof."

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 05:59 AM

"Due to global warming. HYPOTHESIS until proven
Until proven, we have to accept possibilities as a workable alternative - unless we wait until we are shouting "I told you so" from our rooftops
The frighteningly visible speed at which the icecaps are melting are proof enough for me that it is malicious self-serving idiocy to walk away from Climate Change conferences.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: Iains
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 06:12 AM

CONSIDER IT PROVEN, idiot.

Seems to me the idiot that posted the above knows not how science works.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: Stu
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 06:25 AM

"A sample size of one doesn't help."

Huh?

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 08:05 AM

Iains you clearly choose to dismiss science, a foolish stance to take. The evidence is clear, is overwhelming, and for you to ignore it is your choice, but don't bother telling the world the science is wrong, because you're wrong.

Now get your sorry ass out of this thread about Texas and the weather here if you don't have anything worthwhile to contribute.

Over 50 inches of rain makes Harvey the single largest rainfall event ever here. Washington Post story. The Weather Bureau had to invent a couple of new colors of purple to reflect the depth and intensity of this storm.

My part of Texas is drying out after the fringes of the storm soaked us for a couple of days. If we get flash flooding it'll be because we've already had an abnormally wet August, not because of Harvey.

Houston is an example of what happens when public officials ignore experts and refuse to take natural risks seriously. As the country’s fourth-largest city expanded, replacing prairie with impermeable surfaces such as pavement and concrete, the land was rendered less and less capable of absorbing floodwater. Without proper adaptive measures, this made an already flood-prone place more vulnerable. A ProPublica and Texas Tribune investigation found last year that those who have overseen Houston’s flooding issues discounted scientists’ warnings as “anti-development.” In the coming months and years, the city may pay a high price for such shortsightedness."

From here.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: gillymor
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 08:12 AM

Millions of people homeless, billions of dollars worth of damage and the Asshole of the Free World goes to Texas and brags about his crowd size.

deadline.com

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 08:35 AM

We would all agree that if Trump had not pulled out of the Paris Accord we would have still had the Harvey rainfall. ( Chaos theory could argue otherwise. )

No, The real damage Trump will cause, will come in extreme slow motion over decades and will stymie mitigating forces long after he is dead. Even if he dies on April 1st 2018. When he dies is not certain but that he will die is certain. Kinda reminds me of Climate Change.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: gillymor
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 08:47 AM

If Twit comes to an end before his term is up an even dimmer wit is waiting in the wings:

From MSNBC

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 09:16 AM

Tribalism means what ever the other tribe believes, knows or does is wrong.

Even an idiot can master tribalism. No one is immune to tribalism.

Obama describes the American right wing tribe:

"They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 12:25 PM

Iains has been crowing on another thread about his scientific credentials and consultancy work. Yet he posts about "proving hypotheses." He also appears to dismiss the overwhelming scientific consensus on the effects of global warming.

Dunno about Trump's effect just yet, Donuel. He could be out in three years with someone who's actually sane replacing him. The US has been a serial offender for decades over carbon emissions, the worst in the world by far per capita, Paris Accord or no, of any nation with a large population. More than twice the per capita emission of China and ten times that of India. Germany, industrial powerhouse of Europe, just over half the US figure, the UK well under half. Sure, you can find countries with much smaller populations with higher numbers, but in terms of overall impact the US is a very bad boy indeed. And that's before Trump pulled out. My view is that Trump will do major damage if he wins another term. Try to make bloody sure that doesn't happen.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 02:08 PM

Umm, Donuel, bless you, but the word you had in mind I think
is spelled differently than "Bullocks,"
which conjures up the Old Testament image of
"the cattle of a thousand hills".....

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans! (debate)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 08:05 PM

Can you imagine 3 to 5 FEET of rain? This has not happened in thousands of years anywhere on Earth.

Yes it has. Pretty regularly in places like Reunion Island and the foothills of the Himalayas. But they aren't concreted-over flat-as-a-pool-table urban-industrial conglomerations.

Something more to worry about.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/08/30/worries-about-a-galveston-bio-lab/

They seem to have done their best to design it safely, but you have to wonder if there might not have been better places to put it.

Subject: RE: BS: Flippin' 'eck, good luck,Texans!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 10:36 PM

The trickle-down effect from the storm is expected, but it will catch many people outside of Houston by surprise.

Today in the Hispanic grocery store where I buy a lot of my produce I told the clerk that this year's crop of mangoes are magnificent. I ate several last week and was back for more. She pointed out that their warehouses for their produce are in Houston. Anything that has to come out of Houston probably won't move, and anything that is shipping to Houston probably will sit offshore a while, and there goes the produce. Just a guess on some of the operations of that port, but as the general road system is messed up (and most stuff moves out of there on trucks), we're all going to be feeling this for a while.

Schools will start late, and schools are obligated to educate children, so if families evacuate to other Texas cities they will be put in schools, and they will ride buses from shelters to the appropriate schools, as necessary.

When Katrina hit New Orleans there were lots of evacuees in the North Texas area, and I volunteered at the local Salvation Army in the afternoons to help people with computer use, setting up email, finding sites where they need to register, fill out forms, etc.. I met a family I stuck with helping for a while, who fled the rising waters packed into a couple of cars. Three adult sisters, their children, a couple of grandbabies, and their elderly mother. A local church put them up for a few weeks, and by the time they were able to make the choice about returning or resettling here with housing vouchers, the main sister I worked with, named Sandra, decided to stay in Texas, and most of the family stayed with her. She would wax nostalgic when talking about the differences between New Orleans and Texas, the climate, the look (the huge trees in Louisiana), the food, etc. but her elementary school-aged daughter started school and liked the new school and was making friends. That was enough to convince Sandra to stay put.

There will be lots of changes ahead. Many will pull up stakes and move away from the coast. Businesses will close for a while, or fail entirely. Others will pick up the slack. Criminals will descend on the area like fleas on a dog, and people will have to be vigilant to avoid crooked contractors offering to work on homes, and all of the fly-by-night "services" that will try to pop up. Many people will no longer have cars and will be unable to get to work. Unemployment is going to be a huge problem for a while. The poor and middle class will be affected the worst. Those without flood insurance are shit-out-of-luck, but those with it will find that inspectors are often corrupt and they'll need lawyers to get companies to pay what they are supposed to through the government program. It has been underfunded for years and the scandals after Hurricane Sandy hit New Jersey and New York revealed many of the problems.

Trump is clueless. Hopefully that fool will stay out of the way and finally find people who actually know how to do their jobs to work on this big one.