BS: Is Alabama a turning point?

Subject: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 04:40 AM

I honestly do not know enough about so can any of my American friends tell me if the election result signifies a win for common sense and decency over the shady dealings of the right wing of late?

If so, well done to those who helped and keep up the good work!

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Thompson
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 04:48 AM

Hope so. The swing votes were those of black people who came out to vote, despite all efforts to prevent them, I read. A lesson for those who don't think of canvassing in poor areas.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 08:51 AM

It's hard to say if the worm has turned but a Trump-endorsed candidate lost in a deeply red state (of course President Asshole is trying to distance himself from his support Moore now) and that, along with GOP losses in New Jersey and Virginia, is encouraging. As for the notion that "the good people of Alabama did the right thing" 48% of the vote went to an overtly bigoted child molester.
At the very least this could be the end of "king maker" Bannon's influence.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Vashta Nerada
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 08:53 AM

Trump TWICE endorsed the candidate for that seat - the first one lost to Moore, so he tried again. Trump said he "didn't want a liberal Democrat in the seat" as if he was king and had something to say about it.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 08:58 AM

... and there was a great headline in the NY Daily News this morning:

Click

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 09:28 AM

No.

Half the people in godforsaken Alabamy voted for POS Moore and Trump's approval rating is ca. 37%

That don't sound turning point to me.

"It ain't over 'til its over."

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 11:03 AM

The largest turning point I have ever seen occurred at the Women's March right after the inauguration. IT WAS YUGE !
Purges in both left and right of sexual extortionists and harassers has a momentum with powerful consequences.

Trump himself has pushed the pendulum to the left globally despite all his destruction so far.

Our laws and Constitution are turning this Titanic administration to avoid the iceberg of war, but v e r y   s l o w l y.


In Putin's recent round of the cold war II (Vladimir style) he has won this round. He will be back in 2020 !

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 11:07 AM

Even in Alabama they only allow one person in the voting booth.... so besides disaffected Republicans, African-Americans and inspired Democrats, there were no doubt some Republican women who told their insistent husbands.."Of course I'll be voting for Moore!".... then did as they felt right once they were behind the curtain.

A 10,000 vote margin comes in many ways.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 12:27 PM

I don't care if it's a turning point or not. I'm just glad the asshole lost.

Sure, the media is making "turning point" noise, but they have to have something to talk about beyond the basic fact of Jones won, Moore lost. They must look into their Magic-8-Balls in search of deeper significance. Well, I no longer put any faith in those Magic-8-Balls. They've been wrong about Trump too many times.

Moore narrowly lost because of plausible accusations of pedophilia, not because a majority of voters disagreed with his philosophy. Pro-gun, pro-military, pro-life, pro-Christianity, and anti-everything-else still rules the roost in Dixie.

Have a good few years in office, Senator Jones, but don't buy a house in D.C. unless you're thinking about going to work for a law firm there after 2020.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 02:05 PM

pro-Christianity,

Absolutely not. Moore wouldn't know Christian values if they bit him on the ass. And niether would half or more of the so-called "christians" in Alabamy.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: meself
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 02:26 PM

"Pedophilia" by definition is sexual interest in pre-pubescents. If anybody cares.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 03:15 PM

In this country pre pubescence is under 10. In the south they say old enough to bleed old enough to breed.


If the Republicans rush fast enough they will eliminate the vote by Alabama on the Tax bill in the Senate because Senator Doug Jones isn't sworn in yet.


Another potential turning point will come the day before Christmas [Xmas Eve] ...all through the house...
- should a compromise on shutting down the government is not reached.

If the Tax Scam does not pass by Wednesday I 'bet' the government in turn is allowed to shut down without a continuing resolution. Fixed income checks will not arrive after Christmas triggering a turning point with the Trump poor unwashed base.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 03:22 PM

There is little way to tell, as substantive political issues were all but missing from the campaigns.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 03:30 PM

Actually, Doug Jones was out discussing the issues while Moore spent most of the latter stage of the campaign hiding from the public.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 03:44 PM

Celebrity Charles Barkley spoke up about this.
In the US he is a celebrity as a retired professional sports player, (basketball)
his face and voice instantly recognized on television.
He is gregarious and bluntly outspoken.
He is also an Alabama native.

This was reported in the daily "USA Today" newspaper,
which is available all over the country
and whose English is simple to read --
I don't know what school-level "USA Today" is, but it's easy reading.
Not only is the paper sold in shops, and available by subscription,
but hotels all over the country make it available for free to guests
(okay, some hotels make the guests pay for it).

Barkley's remarks were reported at a rally the day before the vote.
He was also quoted for his comments to "USA Today" a month earlier (November 2017).   

November: "Roy Moore is running with Steve Bannon as his right-hand man, who is a white separatist. I'm not even going to get into the women stuff. But the guy -- how can you be a white separatist and represent all the constituents in your state? I mean, everybody is going crazy over these sexual allegations, but Roy Moore, to me, when he brought in Steve Bannon, should have been disqualified. "


December:
"Alabama is my home. It's the greatest place in the world.
I love my Auburn family [his alma mater??] -- War Eagle to everybody.
Hey, even you Roll Tiders, welcome too. [rival to alma mater??]

If somebody told you guys, "Put this election in a movie script " -- no, I'm being serious -- if somebody sent you this as a movie script, you would throw it in the trash.
You'd say, "There's no way possible this other dude could be leading in any polls." And I mean that sincerely.

And I'm not talking about being a Democrat, or a Republican, a liberal, a conservative -- those are the words they throw around to make it sound bad. There's no way possible this guy should -- Number One -- be in an election. There's no way. It's unbelievable that this guy is still in the race.

When people in your own party say they won't vote for you or support you,
that's a dead giveaway. It's amazing.
I am begging and urging everybody to get out, call all your friends.
We gotta, at some point, we gotta stop looking like idiots to the nation."

[all, assuredly, under COPYRIGHT to USA Today]

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 04:10 PM

good for you keberoxu

gillymor Did you also hear Roy Moore's Freudian slips on the few occasions he did speak? cringworthy and gross. ew

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 04:16 PM

Yeah, Don, probably the main reason they had him holed up.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 06:06 PM

The most jaw-dropping tidbit from the Moore camp was his wife's startling assertion that "one of our lawyers is a Jew!" and that 'some of their friends are Jews'.

Beyond tasteless and insulting and into total blind non-comprehension of what is sane.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 06:33 PM

Greg F. is right. "Pro-Christian" is a misnomer. It was intended as shorthand for anti-Islam, anti-Jewish, anti-atheist, and definitely anti-separation-of-church-and-state.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 06:59 PM

The most jaw-dropping tidbit from the Moore camp was his wife's startling assertion that "one of our lawyers is a Jew!"

"Some of our best Negroes
Are our friends..."

Ya see Allerbamy is a sovereign state
With sovereign pedophiles & sovereign hate
They stand for the Bible & the Constitution
They stand against Commernist revolution
They say - "its people like Doug Jones
That freed the slaves"....and they're right.
          .....with apoligies to Phil Ochs.

Phil, where the hell are ya when we need ya?- you are missed.

NOTE:

Sep 18, 2017 - Friday was the anniversary of the Birmingham church bombing that killed four girls in 1963. The prosecutor who brought the men responsible to justice, is former U.S. Attorney Doug Jones.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 07:28 PM

Days of hope. Let's put it no more strongly than that. For now.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Dec 17 - 08:24 PM

Bill I thought Mr. and Mrs. Moore were performing a Woody Allen sketch.
They were perfectly hilarious; "Jew eat?" "No, Jew?" "Y'all hear we gotta new blood sucking Jew lawyer?" "Yah?, ever notice they always answer questions with a question?"

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 14 Dec 17 - 06:42 AM

Is Alabama a turning point?

I suppose it depends on where you're coming from, and what your eventual destination is.
Or were you being metaphorical?

ever notice they always answer questions with a question?" What's wrong with that?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 14 Dec 17 - 07:23 AM

And here's Moore's erudite spokesman:

Swear On The Bible

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Dec 17 - 08:53 AM

"What's wrong with that?"
Because it's a common way of not having to answer awkward questions - the other being "I'm glad you asked me that" and then going on to talk about something else.
Nice to make the connection with Trump, Moore and Damien Green and the thousands of porn hits on parliamentary computers - seems to be regarded as an occupational perk
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 14 Dec 17 - 09:20 AM

I fear you may have missed the attempt at humour:
"Why do you always answer one question by asking another?"
"What's wrong with that?"

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Dec 17 - 09:47 AM

Why do you ask if I missed the yolk? Isn't it enough to only communicate in questions? Haven't you ever seen 'Whose line is I anyway?'

Its just that the look on the face of Moore's spokesman was so clueless.
Sometimes people are as ignorant as they appear. I'm not ":^/ ?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Mr Red
Date: 14 Dec 17 - 05:43 PM

it just proves that:

child molestation is a touchy subject

Subject: RE: BS: Is Alabama a turning point?
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Dec 17 - 05:57 PM

child molestation is a touchy subject
Not if you're Roy Moore or his faithful supporters - like POSOTS tRUMP.