BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert

Subject: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 09:00 AM

Trump now has the power to text every phone in America all at once for what he considers an emergency. We all remember how that worked in Hawaii. We also know his tweeting addiction.

A policy under FEMA/HLS has this Presidential announcement system up and running. This not just a proposal but a fait d'complet. There are people who are suspicious of this move but we are ro see how it goes.

We can not opt out.

The politics of fear has reached a new high/low.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 09:03 AM

source: npr

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Jack Campin
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 09:20 AM

Maybe you can opt out...

https://badsciencedebunked.com/2018/09/18/how-to-mostly-block-donald-trumps-emergency-text/

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 09:23 AM

well folks learned how to unlock phones too but who is going to edit Trump?

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 10:10 AM

The presidential emergency text they promise is to be used only in a "real" emergency

Until it isn't

I always thought it was wierd that the Emergency Broadcast System was not used once on 9-11.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 10:55 AM

You can turn your phone off.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Jack Campin
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 11:39 AM

Won't the message just come through when you turn it back on?

Have they said what the time limit for retries is?

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Jos
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 12:03 PM

Phones are useful - but they are not compulsory.

Subject: BS: Presidential Alert
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 02:27 PM

At about 11:15 AM Pacific Time today, my cell phone started buzzing. A white box with the following message flashed on the screen:

Presidential Alert THIS IS A TEST of the National Wireless Emergency Alert System. No action is needed.

My wife said, "Joe, is this 1984? Somehow, this does not make me feel more secure." My sentiments exactly.

Here's the explanatory Tweet from FEMA:

https://twitter.com/fema/status/1047477728243580928

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 02:28 PM

It just now went online. On TV it is called Emergency Entry Point System. It Piggy backed on the EBS over riding all broadcast system.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 05:50 PM

I rarely turn my phone on, so I imagine I'll find the text there when I do.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 06:26 PM

Actually the idea for this came from the FCC and was inspired by the Hawaii mistake.

maybe :^/

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 08:30 PM

news report from Australia - Donald Trump's presidential alert reaches millions of Americans' phones

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 09:08 PM

I didn't get one.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of trump texts.
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 09:54 PM

Perhaps they don't reach underground to nuclear missile bases.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert
From: John P
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 05:21 PM

The real problem is that if Donald Trump sent a message saying we were under attack, no one would have any reason to believe him.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 06:49 PM

Who has he not attacked?


Putin

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 08:58 PM

Having a national emergency notification system - good.

Having a presidential emergency notification system - bad.

Half the people in the US will distrust any message from whomever is president. If the president is a Republican, Democrats will distrust his/her messages. If the president is a Democrat, Republicans will distrust his/her messages.

A national emergency message needs to come from a trusted nonpolitical agency with an impeccable reputation. Of course, there hasn't been such a thing since the Office of Civil Defense was abolished and its responsibilities turned over to the anything but nonpolitical FEMA.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 09:11 PM

I didn't get any message. I was either slighted or they want me dead, I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 09:24 PM

So you blame Trump for the system that was created under Obama?


Seems like typical Liberal bigotry to me.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert
From: Mr Red
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 03:37 AM

maybe it is not blame, but trust.

When Obama tells you there is a national emergency you would believe.

When Twitler tells you anything, it takes time to understand if he understands!

Yea, Yea, it wouldn't be him. yea right! It would be his minions. But:
1) Describe them what you will, but his erraticisms are not to be trusted and he makes them.
2) His minions may TRY to advise him, but he chose his cronies and they are yes men.

Subject: RE: BS: You can't opt out of Presidential alert
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 09:21 AM

It doesn't matter who came up with the idea and I don't object to the principle of the thing, just the labeling. Using the "presidential alert" label interjects a personality into a process that should be personality-free. A tornado siren is personality-free. It is perceived exactly the same way by everyone. Nobody thinks it has some hidden agenda. A "presidential alert" is saddled with baggage that may cause people to ignore its message based upon how they feel about whoever is president at the time.

There was a time when most Americans trusted the president, regardless of whether they agreed with him or not. Those days are long gone. Why would anyone choose to present what could be life-or-death information in a way that may cause huge numbers of people to ignore it?