BS: Wheel of Time TV series

Subject: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Dec 21 - 04:35 PM

Anyone else watching this on Amazon? Not everyone's cup of tea as it is based on Robert Jordan's fantasy saga of the same name. This production is quite amazing though. Great cinematography and locations/sets. Exceptionally well directed and acted too with a host of actors you will know but can't remember where from :-) (Well, that happens to me anyway!) I have read at least the first couple of books but it was many years ago so I cannot comment on how close the TV series is to the books.

I would heartily recommend to anyone who likes the fantasy genre and even to those who just like a well produced drama. Just turn off your disbelief gene and some of the politics could well be the real world. Let's not go there though...

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Dec 21 - 04:36 PM

oh - and some good music too :-D

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Dec 21 - 06:45 PM

this looks funny but true too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbIxYm3mKzI

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Dec 21 - 02:10 PM

The wheel keeps turning always. Just do a little better than the last time.

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Dec 21 - 03:41 PM

Time in cosmology does not exist under certain conditions. Niether does gravity. After an infinity of time the universe forgets how big or small it is, a bit like the Escher angel and demon globe that grows smaller at the outer boundary. The angles may change but the shape is still angels and demons. That the universe can 'forget' how big or small it is due to accelerating expansion . The initial big bang is similar to the universe existing with no time mass or gravity.
According to Planck showing Energy equals and is equivalent to frequency and Einstien showing Energy is equivalent and equals mass. Mass and frequency are therefore sort of the same thing which is TIME.

Time marks the passing of entropy. Except when temperatures are so unimaginably high when neither time or or mass and gravity exist. Things have cooled down in 14 billion years since that big bang where time, mass and emergent gravity do exist for the last 14 billion years. We can see and are part of that big bang today.

At the end of the universe when the last black hole cools and goes off with a pop - only random gravity waves exist in the void and conditions may exist similar to BEFORE the big bang - no time no mass no gravity. Only a randomness of radiation left behind by the last gravity waves. A quantum event waits in the absence of time. Then poof another big bang?

The universe is boring compared to the wheel of time.

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: keberoxu
Date: 11 Dec 21 - 07:31 PM

Poor Robert Jordan ... the author, who became terminally ill while working to finish the series of books,
on which this series is based.
A young fantasy-genre author named Brandon Sanderson had to do the finishing touches on the last book in the series.
I remember trying to wrap my head around that last book.
It's a doorstop, first of all, really thick, huge book.
There is one chapter -- I could name the chapter, but I won't --
that goes ON, and ON, and ONNNN ...

And some of the subplots got so convoluted, especially the ones
involving prophecies and probably alternative futures,
that I had to just forget about them and stick to the main plot.

Also, when a series like this is written and published,
and an eschatological possible-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it showdown is vital to the plot, what that means is :
a heck of an awful lot of people die.
Of course some of them, it's like, YES! That one had it coming!
But then there are all the others, and the bodies pile up,
and there is a huge remaining cast of characters, grieving the losses.

Then there were characters who survived but were the worse for wear.
One that sticks in my mind was a warrior of great prowess --
but in a one-on-one fight with deadly magic and all,
this character's feet were permanently maimed.
They'll be lucky if they can even walk, never mind fight.

Yes, that series kept me awake at night for a while . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 05:02 AM

Well at least it got finished. Maybe some young fantasy writer could be brought it to help George R R Martin?

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 06:34 AM

"After an infinity of time..."

Yeah, right... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Dec 21 - 08:40 AM

An infinity of time exists when time ceases to exist.
I finished season 1 on Amazon. The filming has similarities to GOT.

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Dec 21 - 03:28 AM

I still have problems understanding what you are on about at times, Donuel. I guess we are at different cycles on the wheel :-D

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Dec 21 - 07:24 AM

I am not reviewing the tv series but only describing the cosmological theory about the cyclical wheel of the universe from birth to death.
Like wash-rinse-repeat the universe goes bang-dissipate-repeat.
Our universe is not fantasy but is fantastical.

What I find fascinating is that not all fundamental laws are born at the same time, some emerge and fade away including mass/gravity and space/time.

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Dec 21 - 11:41 AM

I've seen some comparing it to Game of Thrones, which seems to get identified as 'GOT'

My only response is "WOT?"

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Dec 21 - 02:44 PM

The 'Wheel' has villains, heroines and the plot device of who is the chosen one but the magic (channeling) is less varied and imaginative than GOT. so far

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: robomatic
Date: 13 Dec 21 - 05:33 PM

GOT now has two real world threads (at least)"
The written universe which has lasted for five novels and was supposed to go for at least two more. In the meantime there have been additional works published by George R.R. Martin and and with others. So I hesitate to affirm that 'x' books are out there. There are a plethora. And that makes sense because George R.R. spawned a massive world of continents and kingdoms, with many primary characters and locations. Also multiple religions and contrasting belief systems.

The televised universe was handled by some very good producers who started their series with some incredible visuals and accompanying music. As time went on their world caught up with the written world, and eventually went past it. And ended with many of the main characters biting the dust with the knowledge of but maybe not the complete endorsement of George R.R.

I believe that George R.R. is still active enough to continue the first universe, we shall see.

Best.Dragons.Ever.

Subject: RE: BS: Wheel of Time TV series
From: Mr Red
Date: 15 Dec 21 - 04:44 AM

Amazon? how can watch it with a Visa card?

Seems they are spinning the wheel of time a/c.