Orange song sound files on line

Subject: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: *Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 09:04 AM

YES indeed a page of orange songs in real audio a good site! http://www.orangenet.org/songs.htm Clickit here

Conrad

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: GUEST,Michael
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 09:34 AM

Great! Return of the Number One Fuckwit!

More great tunes HERE

and inspirational readingHERE

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 09:51 AM

Geeziz Conrad, what is your fucking problem? I do so love these posts of yours. An asshole by any other name still smells of shit...........

Just the other day I was thinking that we were due for another piece of bombastic bullshit from you and its so nice to be right. Did your mother have any children that lived? Its obvious that the best part of you ran down her ass and wound up as the brown spot on the mattress.

flaming and trolling.........You do it so wonderfully. All under the guise of scholarly concern and research. It makes it such fun for you doesn't it? Lofty replies on your part.....Non-Partisan babblings that fool no one, but give you the "moral high ground" to those who don't know of you. Its so nice for you...............

Well Dickhead, I'm not mad....just weary of your tripe and nonsense. Fuck off. Eat shit. May all your dreams come true when you find yourself being butt-fucked by a yak while a wombat munches on your tiny balls.

Kiss my ass and have a nice day.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 11:40 AM

Hey Spaw,
I have been to Tibet and had the opportunity to deal with yaks first hand. I have also been to Australia and had the extreme honor of scratching a wombat on the head (Just before he made a grab for my wrist). That was the same day I was attacked by a kangaroo - but I wander. My point is to show a little respect for god's creatures. The first rule of management is NEVER to direct someone to do something you would do yourself or had not already done. Give Karen a hug and add something to your instrument link. It will distract you.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 11:50 AM

Oh Sins I'm not into management here, just adding my wishes for Conrad's personal dream fulfillment. I hate to see a man whose reach does not exceed his grasp, and poor Conrad can't grab his ass with even one hand. Maybe if we all send him encouraging messages such as I did, he'll be able to get the yak and the wombat properly situated.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 12:13 PM

Spaw - I meant that I did not approve of the way you were managing the yak and the wombat! They deserve better.
Mary

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 12:21 PM

Oh..............My gawd you're right Sins..........The ASPCA will be down on me for sure won't they? Poor creatures.....consigned to such a fate..........What was I thinking? I want to hereby extend my apologies to yaks and wombats everywhere.

Conrad will just have to be satisfied with having a hot lead enema while trapped in a room with Sinead O'Connor. Not a bad second choice on his part.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Wesley S
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 12:28 PM

People for the ethical treatment of Lead will have something to say about this !!!!

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 12:29 PM

And she will sing "FFFEEEELLLLIIINNNGGSSS" and Kumbaya alternately.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 12:47 PM

Wow, when I saw that all-caps title, and theword 'orange,' I just KNEW it was my old pal, Conrad. Looks like Spaw said it all for me, so, oh well...

And Spaw, the way you wrote to Conrad was totally racist. It reminds me of the way African American slaveswere treated, and Martin Luther King jr, too. And other black people. ANY black person, take your pick. And show Conny some respect! ;)

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: sledge
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 12:57 PM

Spaw, how could you want to inflict such a horror on a cute fluffy wombat, we all know they would rather be grubbing around in kangaroo shit for roots.... Oh I see your point.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 02:37 PM

A Loyal Orange Institution of England? They've managed to give that a fairly low profile. And I'm a bit perplexed to see there are Loyal Orange Lodges for Women...in the Irish Republic, even. Still, they've got some good songs, these buggers, and there's some interesting history in these links, so I guess I'd better say thanks for the reference, Conrad.

Spaw, I wonder if you could be just a bit more restrained with your language in this forum? I've encouraged kids of various ages to hunt around the Mudcat without feeling the need to look over their shoulders. I guess they're mature enough not to dwell on the filth, but they're going to get plenty chances to learn about hatred and bigotry without the Mudcat giving them lessons.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 03:28 PM

First, though it may be vulgar to some, I don't consider it that way, but I am generally a bit more restrained....sometimes.

I admit to bigotry and racism......Is it possible to be devoid of them? On the other hand, if you are concerned about them, try not to allow them anywhere near a posting from Conrad, the proud owner and operator of the most insidious form of bigotry imaginable.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 03:53 PM

Fionn,
Why no request to Guest Michael to restrain himself from posting the above links. Like it or not, the children you send to this site have heard "fuck", "shit" and a lot worse than Spaw comes up with. The White Supremacy sites linked above are just logical enough to be a real danger to adolescents who are insecure to begin with. Conrad's link is legitimately placed here as a source for music and lyrics. Do you think anyone going there is apt to find the music without being exposed to the bigotry? This is not a defense of Spaw. It's a "Heads Up" to you. Maybe you do need to monitor.
Mary

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 04:43 PM

I don't know why people keep rising to the bait. Conrad has been known in many forums for a long while and for the same reasons. Here is a quote from part of a thread from r.m.c dated 30/05/99:

"Trish: ignore the insane ravings of Conrad Bladey and, for God's sake, don't reply. All that asshole wants is to stir up a fight. Everyone who regularly reads any Irish/Celtic newsgroups knows who (and what) he is."

Perhaps some of us could do with heeding this advice.

Jon

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: GUEST,Annraoi
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 04:48 PM

You can say what you like about Conrad, but you can't deny his right to post links to his songs, some of which are extremely singable. Let's not forget, folks, these songs are as much a part of the living Irish Tradition as "Kells Water" or "Amhrán Phádraig Shéamais." You may not agree with the sentiments expressed in them, but, then you don't have to listen. And as for those of you who find the very appearance of Conrad's name unbearably provocative, why don't you just ignore him ?
There's more offensive and dangerous material on the Net. Annraoi

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: DougR
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 04:54 PM

Spaw: May Yak read your message, choked up, and got all teary-eyed. Bet you wouldn't subject Cletus to such abuse. DougR

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: MMario
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 04:57 PM

He'd subject Cletus to such abuse in a hairy-arsed second. It's Cleigh he wouldn't abuse...

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: DougR
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 05:05 PM

Thanks MMario, for the correction. I've been distracted, I guess, consoling my Yak.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 05:29 PM

Hi Jon.....I wasn't rising to the bait. I just honestly enjoy giving him hell as much as he enjoys the trolling.

However, I do find his type of bigotry to be the most insidious and damaging, cloaked in a veil of rationality. We are seeing so much of that today in this world. It makes dealing with the serious issues of human interaction so much harder. No, I just love to have Conrad stop in for a "shot" every now and again. It doesn't anger me at all. Perhaps its therapeutic. He's a jerk...a troll...a bigot of the worst type......everyone knows it. I am glad to see that no one here will engage him in serious discussion anymore. That's a great leap forward for the 'Cat. Maybe we should take turns.

And Doug......I really am sorry about your Yak. I got troubles of my own though. The National Lead Congress just called me and are sending me a subpoena to appear and show cause as to why I have defamed a useful metal.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Wesley S
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 05:42 PM

I KNEW IT - I JUST KNEW IT. TOLD YA SO !!!

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 06:54 PM

In the meantime, even though I know they were probably posted as sarcasm, I hope that someone will delete Guest, Michael's links. we really do NOT need those on the Mudcat, no matter the intention.

Thanks,

kat

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 07:10 PM

I have a wonderful children's book here called "Life Ain't No Yuk For A Yak". Would a few verses help?

Jon,
I try. I really do.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: *Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 07:20 PM

Ha! what a bunch of paranoid loonies!

good to see you rollin in your own filth!

Actually the only reason I posted the link was to inform those interested. There are songs not otherwise available there and a page I just found yesterday. Actually the entire series of pages is as someone has noted quite informative.

But if it flushed a few biggoted idjiots out of the woodwork for all to know who they are then so much the better! Clickit here

Conrad

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 07:21 PM

Wow, Spaw, Conrad won't sleep tonight, with all that hell you've given him. And how old are you now?

Sinsull/Mary,I hadn't followed up those links, and don't suppose I will. But I take your point about monitoring. Seems a pity that it has to be so, but you can't do much about guests. Can't do much about Spaw for that matter.

I did go to the site Conrad gave. I read some of the text pages, and listened through all the songs and music. Can't say I took offence at anything there, though I happen to be at odds with the loyal orders on just about everything. The tone in which they explain their hostility to ecumenicalism is a bit disheartening, but I don't think you could say they are worse than the Holy Father in that respect. Let's hope it doesn't take Martin McGuinness too long to get rid of religiously segregated schooling in the north.

Annraoi, if there were a few more around with your generosity of spirit, the world would be a better place.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: MartinRyan
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 08:29 PM

Annraoi

Good man. If the Irish Traditional Music Archive is happy to keep collections of Orange songs (written and on record) within its stock - why should we get over-excited?

Conrad

The songs are in fact relatively easily obtainable - links have been provided here before.

Regards

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: death by whisky
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 08:59 PM

I can't be bothered.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: GUEST,Michael
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 09:22 PM

Well, folks, if you see no problem hosting Conrad's brand of racist bigotry, seems a bit hypocritical to complain about hosting white supremecist, or anti-semitic, or right-wing religious, or any other disgusting muck someone wants to post.

The internet- like the world- can be a dangerous place & those who turn children loose on it without guidance or supervision are simply irresponsible.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Brendy
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 09:43 PM

"Knock knock."
"Who's there?"
"Conrad."
"Oh, fuck. Not that wanker again"

B.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Bud Savoie
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 10:08 PM

How have I managed to be on this website for the better part of a year and miss out on Conrad? Judging from the posts, his big thing in life is the classes of people he doesn't like.

I've dropped off a couple of sites becaue of people like him who not only posted regularly, but seemed to be supported by the listowners. Fortunately, Mudcatters (again judging from the posts) are made of sterner stuff and have little use for this kind of crap and for those who dish it.

I like to think of folksongs as bringing disparate people together. I can't think of a song right now that Conrad and I would sing ensemble.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: DougR
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 02:41 AM

Hey Fionn! Maybe you and Conrad could start a band!

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: sledge
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 04:17 AM

Conrads material "harmless", I don't think so. The people that have so killed at least three people and put an 11 year old child in hospital with a bullet in her back subscribe to the same loyalist ethic.

I wonder how the prick would feel if some of his so called friends sprayed his family home with machine gun fire.

If there is a need to preserve these songs then let it be done in such a way that they have to be dug for by those with an interest, not waved in peoples faces in as many ways as possible so that any fuckwit can latch onto them.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Bud Savoie
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 07:41 AM

The site doesn't just preserve the songs for historical reasons. It spews Orange hatred and shows us how the young are being educated by the Junior Lodges in this kind of thought.

I like to think that someday songs like these will be as interesting as Civil War and Revolutionary War songs are to me now, and for the same reasons.

Anybody know anything about Conrad except for his dislikes?

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Amergin
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 07:50 AM

The #1 Pissant has as much of a right to post his views here (no matter how much me or anyone else dislikes it) as much as anyone else here, even if his arguments are asinine.....Here's better link started, about half a year ago, here on the 'Cat:click here

Amergin

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Bud Savoie
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 07:54 AM

I understand that there is a way for 'Catters to punch up someone's past posts. The tenor of this thread has piqued my curiousity about Conradian history. Anyone know how I can get his past contributions?

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Amergin
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 08:29 AM

Just type in the supersearch box "orange order" or "orangemen" and you are sure to come up with his past flaming activities.

Amergin

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Big Mick
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 08:57 AM

BUD all you have to do is find one of his thread posts and click on his name in the header. This activates the forum search by name. Wait a few minutes and VOILA, there will be all his posts. You will soon discover why he is known on lists all over the internet for his flaming.

And for what it is worth, I believe the Orange songs and music are an important part of the history of Ireland. They should, and must, be preserved. But the sites that this sorry wee man links to aren't about preservation of the music. They are about spreading hatred and bigotry.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Snuffy
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 09:01 AM

Bud

On every Message posted the person's name is a clickable link. If you click on the name you will see all their postings. I clicked on you and saw 111 postings going back to this one

111 Bud Savoie RE: Help: Fine Senorita 26-Feb-00 - 08:38 PM

Wassail! V

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: SINSULL
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 09:27 AM

Guest Michael,
I perused the sites you listed and did not find any folk music/blues information appropriate to Mudcat. Conrad's site did provide lyrics and background on them. His intentions are another matter. As are yours. And I guess mine.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: JedMarum
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 09:36 AM

Like Bud Savoie said earlier, I wondered to myself when I saw this thread, "how could I have been here for a year and never run into this Conrad character before?" I have never seen anyone inspire such a strong response from Spaw (I even wondered,at first if it was the real Spaw).

I understand that the general feeling is that this is a hatemonger, and I accept that that may well be the truth, but I'll take a look at the links anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Amergin
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 09:37 AM

Sorry, Sinsull, but Guest Michael's point was that Pissant has as much Hatred and Bigotry as those idiots in the Aryan Nations. A bit of a thread creep here, but those of us from the Inland Empire do not like the outsiders who have come into our neck of the woods to house their venomous seed. Yes, there is racial prejudice up there, I do not deny that, but prejudice and Hatred are two very different things. One of them (prejudice) is a product of one's environment and the other (Hatred) is a product of insecurity of oneself among other things.

Amergin

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: LR Mole
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 10:04 AM

Thanks, Spaw. Not even tempted to click, but even amusing souls (perhaps especially amusing souls) ought to note when some things are not only not funny, but beneath contempt. Perhaps C.B. might be persuaded to yell "Fire" in a crowded barracks.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 02:48 PM

On the subject of all singing together (but perhaps not me with Conrad, DougR) which pope said : "Ecumenicalism is the meeting house of heresy"? Which said: "Error has no rights" ("error" of course being as defined by the pope)? Which did a deal with Hitler?

Yes,I'm afraid there is more bigotry in the Catholic church than in the site indicated above. There IS prod/loyalist bigotry too of course, tons of it. It's easy enough to find, so I won't bother giving links.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: DougR
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 06:31 PM

Gee Fionn, sorry you feel that way. I wouldn't mind singing with you! I sure hate to be linked with Conrad though. DougR

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: GUEST,Michael
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 06:38 PM

That's the way, Fionn!! KICK THAT POPE! Want to give him another shot? Feel better??

Now will you favor us with some anecdotes of the numerous horrors perpetrated by proponents of the Protestant faith?

Possibly some spiritually uplifting quotations from the Rev.[sic] Ian Paisley?

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 07:50 PM

I wasn't suggesting I wouldn't sing with you Doug, far from it - just addressing that aside to you.*BG* Or have I misunderstood your post?

Thanks for your interest Michael, and yes, I think I can oblige. Writing in the Protestant Telegraph in early 1972, Dr Paisley observed that the recent conversion of the child killer Myra Hindley to catholicism (his mistake - she had in fact refound that faith) would come as no surprise to decent Prods, as she was now among evil scum of her own ilk. Or words to that effect. Of course, there are many examples I could have chosen, but this one stands out for its grotesque bigotry towards not only fellow Christians, but also Myra Hindley, who in my view is not unequivocally - and certainly not irredeemably - evil.

Big Ian, by the way, runs a little church he founded with his dad. He'd be flattered to know you rank him up there with the pope!

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 07:53 PM

Sorry about all that emphasis - not convinced it was entirely my fault this time!

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Bud Savoie
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 08:51 PM

I must agree with Big Mick that Orange songs are part of the history of Ireland, and an attempt to suppress them is an attempt to rewrite history. But they cover no one with glory, and presenting them in a setting of approbation is pretty awful. Just as awful as Fionn picking up the Orange ball and running with it.

My 25-year marriage is a mixed one; and it has lasted this long in part because we can rib and josh each other about religion as well as other topics, but never with venom or hatred and never to hurt.

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: Big Mick
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 10:13 PM

Listen, my friends. There is no need for this thread to descend to where it seems to be headed. And Bud, I don't believe that Fionn is picking up the "Orange Ball". I took his post to simply mean that there is more than enough in either sides religious leaders to make some arguments about hypocrisy. The simple fact is that this isn't about religion. It is about hypocrisy, civil rights, and economics. Let us ignore this lad, as he seeks to fan the flames of division. The more we respond to him, in any way that gives him credibility, the more we validate him in his own mind. Let us respond to one another in a civil way, and ignore those whose motives are clearly to sow seeds of division. A spirited debate is one of the things that this place is about. Flaming and namecalling is not.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: ORANGE SONG SOUND FILES ON LINE
From: DougR
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 10:34 PM

No, Fionn, my only objection was your pairing me with Conrad. Happy to sing with anyone anytime.

DougR