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Subject: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: John in Brisbane Date: 26 Oct 00 - 07:58 PM This thread is not intended to bash anyone about BS: or thread titles, merely to let you know that Max introduced a facility some time ago to provide you with a choice when you review the thread titles in this Forum. I raise this thread because it would appear that many people are not aware of it.
Not BS filter
When I'm trying to save time I use this URL and I have it stored as one of my favourites. Any thread commencing with BS: will NOT appear on the screen. If you hit REFRESH or POST the thread list will then include all BS; items.
The choice is there if you wish to make use of it. Regards, John
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: Jon Freeman Date: 26 Oct 00 - 10:03 PM There does appear to be a problem with this URL though John. If there was a thread lets say "New music website", you wouldn't get to read it. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: John in Brisbane Date: 26 Oct 00 - 10:44 PM Agreed, but that's your choice. Regards, John |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: Helen Date: 26 Oct 00 - 11:04 PM Jon, Do you mean that the word "website" would be filtered out because it has the letters "bs" in it? Or does the filter only work on the prefixes? Helen |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: Jon Freeman Date: 26 Oct 00 - 11:20 PM Helen, I mean that the word website would be filtered out using this particular form. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: John in Brisbane Date: 27 Oct 00 - 02:53 AM You can modify the URL to exclude 'BS:' or indeed 'Help:' and then save it as a Favourite. If you want to see just the miscellany of postings that don't use Max's pre-written header formats then you could filter out ':'. As far as I know you can only exclude one string variable at a time. Regards, John |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au Date: 27 Oct 00 - 05:34 AM If you use Netscape, John. Tell me how to do it. I have been using a text browser; but now that I have a faster computer, modem, and connection, I thought I would try out Netscape. Murray |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: Wolfgang Date: 27 Oct 00 - 07:31 AM Thanks for telling, John. I knew this possibility existed but didn't know how to do it. I then tried several ways to exclude both BS and NotMusic (by some posters written 'not music') at the same time. It seems to be impossible, but I could do it in a two step process, first excluding BS and then excluding Notmusic on the resulting threads. It would help me a lot on my days with only a little time if the posters would use the label 'BS' consistently and not invent their own labels. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: Jon Freeman Date: 27 Oct 00 - 08:03 AM Murray, if you want to use it, the URL is: http://www.mudcat.org/threadsnot.cfm?Title=TextToExclude Where TextToExclude is the text string that you want excluded. I can't see any way of excluding more than one search string at a time. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: Bill D Date: 27 Oct 00 - 09:43 AM http://www.mudcat.org/threadsnot.cfm?Title=BS this is the one I copied many months ago form the 'official' release...it worked when I tried it...didn't know it was a filter...though it looked at the prefix! But I know nothing of programming |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: Jon Freeman Date: 27 Oct 00 - 10:33 AM Bill, I would guess that it is a SQL query that does the work and it would go something along the lines of
SELECT TheThreads Obviously the Mudcat one would be more sophisticated than that and includes dates in the WHERE clause. I have used the % sign as a wildcard symbol. This is the only problem with this type of query for this use: %BS% would match "BS", "absolute", "website","banjo tabs", etc. and would therefore exclude them. I guess the only real answer is for those like me who contribute to BS to endevour to stick to that one Prefix. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: Jon Freeman Date: 27 Oct 00 - 10:44 AM I have missed something here. I don't know the system used here but the query could but does not appear to (I tested it and found it filtering out the word "Website" use "BS%" (no opening wild card) and that would filter out anything that started with those letters and I doubt that many words start BS... maybe a simple change to the form could solve the problem I mentioned. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: The Shambles Date: 28 Oct 00 - 05:13 AM Sometimes someone does prefix a music question with BS (like this one), for some reason. |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: wildlone Date: 28 Oct 00 - 05:40 PM I think the reason for using the BS prefix for music queries is that somwhere out there is some twat that will say that unless it is about a song that has been recorded by at least 15 artists inc Paxton, Seeger and MacColl, has a Child no, is at least 300 years old, then it is not folk and should not be on this site. |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: bbc Date: 28 Oct 00 - 07:22 PM I appreciated this info. Sometimes I like to read BS threads & sometimes I don't. This thread, for the 1st time, gave me a reason to use the BS prefix, so that folks *can* screen their viewing if they choose to. Thanks! bbc |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au Date: 28 Oct 00 - 08:41 PM Thanks for the explanation Jon and Bill. I thought it was some kind of filtering process done by the browser; but now I understand. It doesn't work perfectly. For example I got this thread when I tried it 8^) Murray |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: GUEST,John in Brisbane Date: 27 Nov 00 - 08:52 AM Thanks bbc for your courtesy. Regards, John |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 27 Nov 00 - 09:19 AM I just feel Max has more important things to worry him at the moment, let's leave this as it is, does it really matter? RtS (BS-merchant) |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: GUEST,Reta Date: 27 Nov 00 - 04:06 PM Sorry all. I promise not to make another thoughtless request. Blessings Reta |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 27 Nov 00 - 04:27 PM I take it a thread headed "Not BS" would be filtered by this.
So long as people dispense with the prefixes there doesn't seem much point. And if people used the prefixes consistently you wouldn't really need it in order to avoid BS threads.
Anyway, how a thread starts is no great indicator of how it's going to develop. A thread that starts off as a musical query can turn into BS very easily (and there are many types of "musical threads" which are essentially BS anyway - especially the "who is your favourite etc" ones. And a thread that's about something apparently nothing to do with music often turns musical, as you'd expect in this company. |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: Jeri Date: 27 Nov 00 - 05:33 PM McGrath, I think the people who use the filters don't even like reading the BS thread titles. I also think the filter would eliminate threads with "absolutely," "aBSolutely," "aBSent," and "staBS" in the titles. Reta, it wasn't a "thoughtless request!" Nobody should feel like they can't ask a question or make a suggestion around here. The bottom line (I think) is that people don't use the BS prefix because they think it is an accurate (or very nice) description of what they write. If the label were something like "Non-music, (NM)" or "Gen" they'd probably use the prefix. It would be pretty damned offensive to me to be expected to label a thread in which I announced someone I loved just died as "BS." |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: GUEST,Reta] Date: 27 Nov 00 - 05:55 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: Zebedee Date: 27 Nov 00 - 05:58 PM Jeri, I think your right. I wouldn't however wish filter out threads about malapportioNMent... I might miss all the Dubya/Gore stuff! Ed |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: GUEST,Reta Date: 27 Nov 00 - 06:00 PM Sorry, I'm use to typing and hit the 'enter' button by mistake, --- again! Thanks for your understanding what I was trying to say Jeri. Blessings Reta |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: Callie Date: 27 Nov 00 - 06:19 PM Thanks for the interesting info John et al. I didn't know such a filter existed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: John in Brisbane Date: 27 Nov 00 - 06:28 PM Just for the record you can set the filter to whatever you like. The one that I use is "BS:", which is the standard prefix developed by Max. While thoughtful people continue to start threads with this prefix I have the choice to avoid them if I wish. Thanks to those people who do so. Regards, John |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: mousethief Date: 28 Nov 00 - 06:28 PM When I put BS: in the filter box, I get only threads WITH BS: in the title. How do I get only those threads without it? Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: or No BS: Choices via Max From: John in Brisbane Date: 28 Nov 00 - 07:53 PM Try this: http://www.mudcat.org/threadsnot.cfm?Title=BS: Regards, John |