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Subject: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Gypsy Date: 02 Nov 00 - 10:32 PM Okay the scene is this: Asking my beloved to fuel the stove with one more piece of wood, the question arises: Has anyone ever been so cold as to burn their instruments? His mandolin certainly wouldn't last (not even in our airtight) my 16/15 dulcimer might for a short period of time, maybe a piano? Whatttaya think? Anyone ever been THAT desparate? (you were warned, the title of this thread WAS BS!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Matt_R Date: 02 Nov 00 - 10:46 PM Sounds a bit like La Boheme. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Allan C. Date: 02 Nov 00 - 10:48 PM No, but yesterday morning it was so cold that I saw a beagle trying to jumpstart a jackrabbit. This morning it was so cold that I put a pot of boiling water outside and it froze so fast, the ice was still warm. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: JamesJim Date: 02 Nov 00 - 10:51 PM I would rather die with my fingers frozen to the strings of my beautiful Guild guitar, than have 10 minutes of warmth followed by several hours of regret, during which I freeze to death. And that ain't no BS! Jim |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Gypsy Date: 02 Nov 00 - 10:56 PM I heartily agree with you, JamesJim! But, anyone ever heard of such an incident? Consider, you could burn your bagpipes, and eat them too! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Allan C. Date: 02 Nov 00 - 10:58 PM You might want to take a look at a "So cold..." thread here: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=17090&messages=76 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Allan C. Date: 02 Nov 00 - 11:03 PM I believe we had a thread which mentioned burning a guitar (BeauDangles is still trying to live it down). I'm reasonably sure that a stacked cord of bassoons would burn nicely for quite awhile. (Not that I have anything whatsoever against bassoons.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: JamesJim Date: 02 Nov 00 - 11:04 PM Sorry, I didn't know I was stuttering. Anyway, I'm sure you can see I'm serious about my position. Jim
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Allan C. Date: 02 Nov 00 - 11:42 PM Happens when you use the "Back" button after posting, JJ. Nearly everyone does it from time to time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: MarkS Date: 03 Nov 00 - 12:01 AM Never never never burn a guitar. But I can't think of a better use for bagpipes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Peter Kasin Date: 03 Nov 00 - 12:06 AM I would never burn my OWN musical instrument, but...... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: katlaughing Date: 03 Nov 00 - 01:44 AM I met an old couple once who'd escaped Communist Rumania, I think it was. The last winter they were there, it was so cold and supplies so non-existent, that they actually did burn their entire personal library, save for a few books which they could carry with them. It seemed so sad, but they were so happy and had totally let go of any materialism. They are the only people I've ever met whom I consider to have been living in a real state of Grace, totally living in the moment, for the moment, with no attachments except their connection to what they considered the Cosmic. I admired them greatly, but I have not reached that point. I'd have to die if my old violin was the last thing left to burn. It wouldn't last long or make much of a difference anyway. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Liz the Squeak Date: 03 Nov 00 - 04:04 AM To repeat my comment on walking into the bar of the Red Lion in Llanfair, where there were two piano accordions, two banjos, a guitar and a melodeon; never seen so much good firewood, and me without a match. Personally I would have very little hesitation, if it was between me and death. You can always get another instrument, but can you ever get another life? (OK, I don't want anything from the afterlife believers here, I know it could be a possibility, but I'm having enough trouble with the lifestyle I have now thankyou!) Besides, my instruments are my brain and my voice, if I died, so would they. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: GUEST,micca at work Date: 03 Nov 00 - 04:33 AM Yes Liz but why do you keep your instruments in such a tatty old case???*****BG**** |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Patrish(inactive) Date: 03 Nov 00 - 04:49 AM I think it was called the winter of discontent when all the power stations had no coal. I was about 8 at the time and we had to burn all sorts of stuff to keep warm. No instruments come to mind, but we did burn old shoes, a deckchair, an occasional table(no it wasn't its day off). Patrish |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Liz the Squeak Date: 03 Nov 00 - 04:57 AM I remember that winter - 3 day week, power cuts half the week and still the damn school stayed open!! I remember going TO school in darkness at 8.45am one day, and coming home at 3.30 pm still in darkness.... We had coal fires anyway, those in town who had central heating (a rare and wondrous thing in those days....) froze! I remember spending the Christmas holidays with my grandfather, whose fireplace in the farmhouse he lived in, was bigger than my daughter's bedroom now!! It housed an old fashioned wood burning range and the biggest leather armchair - big enough for 3 kids, 2 cats and a teddybear. Ahhhh.... LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Troll Date: 03 Nov 00 - 07:31 AM BURN my INSTRUMENTS? Listen, if you people are gonna start talkin' dirty, I'm outta here. I don't mind a little smutty talk now and then, but I draw the like at blasphemy. troll...departing in a large cream-colored Huff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Catrin Date: 03 Nov 00 - 07:35 AM Once I had a saxaphone. I got extremely skint and sold it. As you will all appreciate, I have regretted it ever since. I had just learnt to play 'summertime' too. *sigh* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Troll Date: 03 Nov 00 - 07:50 AM That should have read "draw the line". Ten points off for failure to proofread the copy before posting. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Naemanson Date: 03 Nov 00 - 10:13 AM Remember the Red Dwarf episode where Lister was freezing and starving and the only option was to burn his guitar? When and if that day comes the rescue party will find me frozen wrapped around my unburned guitar. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Steve Latimer Date: 03 Nov 00 - 10:24 AM "The New York Times said it was the coldest Winter in seventeen Years, I didn't feel so cold then" Bob Dylan, Talking New York. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: kendall Date: 03 Nov 00 - 10:30 AM Hey Allen C where did you get the one liner about the boiling water? I thought that was mine? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: kendall Date: 03 Nov 00 - 10:32 AM Utah Phillips said it was so cold he saw a chicken walking down the road with a "capon" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 03 Nov 00 - 10:32 AM ...it will be, Cap'n Morse, it will be... RtS :oD) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: kendall Date: 03 Nov 00 - 12:52 PM Not sure what you refer to Roger? That line about the boiling water? I may have stolen it, if so, it was so long ago I dont remember. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Matt_R Date: 03 Nov 00 - 12:53 PM It's cold enough out there to freeze your Winnebago! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Clinton Hammond2 Date: 03 Nov 00 - 01:57 PM Naemanson Ya beat me to it... "Your guitar was made of camphor wood? It must have been worth a fortune!" Or "Now I know why dogs lick their testicles... It takes away the taste of the dog food..." WAY too funny! [~` |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: kendall Date: 03 Nov 00 - 02:42 PM dogs do that because they can..thats all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Ely Date: 03 Nov 00 - 02:44 PM I couldn't spare the dulcimers (especially the older one, whose sound I'm convinced I'll never replace) and they wouldn't burn long, anyway. My guitar's pretty cheap--I'd probably poison myself with glue fumes. Nah, not worth it. I have been so cold I couldn't warm up the sheets on my bed, though (despite two wool blankets, a quilt, and a down comforter). Makes it really hard to sleep. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: GUEST,kaleb Date: 03 Nov 00 - 05:19 PM Remember, a lap dulcimer burns hotter but a hammered dulcimer burns longer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Gypsy Date: 03 Nov 00 - 10:17 PM Gotta creep in this one. Remember the winter of NO electricity for 3 1/2 weeks? In December, no less. Was great. Lots of music, ghost stories, and cooking on the wood stove. When power finally came on, looked at each other, shrugged, and flipped the circuit breaker. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: CarolC Date: 04 Nov 00 - 01:22 AM Fortunately, all of my instruments are made of either plastic or metal, so certain people...ahem (LtS) can't burn them, and would probably poison themselves if they tried. My coldest experience was 80 degrees below zero wind chill, 30 degrees below zero absolute (Fahrenheit), and nothing but wet wood that wouldn't burn, and a very drafty house. There is no musical instrument that, when burned, would have kept me warm on that day. Except maybe a very large church organ...along with the church. Carol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Liz the Squeak Date: 04 Nov 00 - 03:31 AM Gypsy - I remember that winter - bliss!! Half the national Grid down, snow 4 feet deep and no school for 3 weeeks!! I remember a couple of days where there was nothing bur frozen snow to look at, and the sky was that incredible shade of blue that made it look like a sheet of pure lapis lazuli.... Geez but it was COLD!!!! And Lister didn't burn his guitar, he burnt the back of Rimmers camphorwood chest, which was mean, but at least he didn't burn it all. And didn't Cat look absolutely gorgeous in that snow suit?..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Ely Date: 05 Nov 00 - 01:02 AM I've got one of each. The hammered has an extra layer of veneer, so it might be worthwhile . . . The worst cold experience I had was in Iowa, visiting a college at the end of January, 1996. The cold wasn't so bad--3 degrees and a -30 windchill--but the snow was blowing so thickly that I couldn't find any of the buildings. I got within 15 feet of the anthro building, which is a massive red stone Romanesque, before I could tell there was a building there at all. Then next day was clearer but the temperature hadn't risen and I had to stand out on the corner for 5 hours waiting for my uncle to come pick me up (he wasn't familiar with the town and I told him I'd be watching). I'd stand outside for an hour, thaw out inside for 15 minutes, go back outside . . . They still didn't cancel classes, and, crazy me, I decided to go to the college in spite of the ordeal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: sledge Date: 05 Nov 00 - 02:39 AM I worked several winters in Arctic Russia where we regularly had -40 centigrade not counting wind chill, If our heating had failed I don't think too much would have been spared. When its that cold it becomes painful. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Crazy Eddie Date: 05 Nov 00 - 09:23 AM "If our eyes we'd close, the lashes froze, Till oft times we couldn't see. It wasn't much fun, but the only one To whimper, was Sam Magee Robert Service
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Naemanson Date: 05 Nov 00 - 09:39 AM Gypsy, are you connected to that great group Artisan? Or are you familiar with their song about power cuts? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Naemanson Date: 05 Nov 00 - 09:44 AM You know what it's like in the Yukon wild when it's sixty-nine below; When the ice-worms wriggle their purple heads through the crust of the pale blue snow; When the pine-trees crack like little guns in the silence of the wood, And the icicles hang down like tusks under the parka hood; When the stove-pipe smoke breaks sudden off, and the sky is weirdly lit, And the careless feel of a bit of steel burns like a red-hot spit; When the mercury is a frozen ball, and the frost-fiend stalks to kill -- Robert Service - Ballad Of Blasphemous Bill |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Liz the Squeak Date: 05 Nov 00 - 03:13 PM Gypsy - in that same cold winter, the vicar cancelled Evensong one evening, and spent the afternoon calling on all the parishioners to tell them not to come, but forgot to tell the bellringers and choir!! We were more than happy to have dragged him out of his nice warm house and down the hill to the church that was so cold it would have kept a side of beef for a month..... serve him right! Would have cheerfully set fire to the vicar that night, although not the bells. Vicars might burn quite nicely (there's a thread creep for the pagans.....) but bells don't. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Bernard Date: 05 Nov 00 - 03:22 PM Erm, if the temperature's zero, and we are told it will be twice as cold tomorrow... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Amergin Date: 06 Nov 00 - 12:28 PM Frozen shoelaces flap around with each step Smoky tendrils of fog escape the twitching lips Snowmen standing by the sidewalks greeting Passersby with outstretched wooden fingertips I Wish I Was Back Home Amergin He sits before the fireplace, gazing At the ice forming on the window panes Huddled in his coat and blanket Seeing the snow on the gravel lane "Your dad's doing his best for us The bills are too high, the wages too low" He shivers and watches kids outside Playing in the subzero snow Donning the Red Amergin
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Troll Date: 06 Nov 00 - 12:49 PM Thats why, since 1967, I have lived in- ta da!- SUNNY FLORIDA!!! The closest I want to get to ice is a couple of cubes in a glass.Snow? Been there. Done that. Moved on. troll***evil chuckle*** |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Naemanson Date: 06 Nov 00 - 01:53 PM It is well that there is a large portion of the population who have deluded thmeselves into thinking that warm weather is preferable to that of the northern climes. That deluded part of our civilization can pack themselves into the hot, muggy, cheerless cities of the south and leave us our lovely seasons and exciting daily difference of hot, cold, sunny, cloudy, windy, calm, snow, rain, sleet, freezing rain. And then there are the breathtakingly beautiful sunny days that follow an ice storm where everything is coated with ice and shining in the sunlight. The world is transformed into a fairyland of shine and sparkles. You go ahead, Troll, enjoy the south. What's the weather today? Hot? Sun Shining? What? Just like yesterday? And the day before? Aww, too bad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Troll Date: 06 Nov 00 - 10:16 PM Thanks, Bret, I will. 'Cause like I said, I've been there. My arthritis does quite well down here in the warm, muggy, sunshine. I can walk and play my guitar and not have to live on anti-inflamatories. The small university town in which I live is filled with trees and 50 yards from my front porch is a small pond that abounds with herons and turtles.An easy ten minute walk brings me to a small lake on the campus with alligators and in the winter the trees no the little islands are white with roosting egrets. We have thunderstorms that seem to be drowning the world and destroying it with wind and lightning.And then it's over and the sun comes back with magnificent rainbows and incredible sunsets. So, thank you. I'll enjoy the South as I have most of my life.And don't worry 'bout us. We're doin' just fine. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Naemanson Date: 06 Nov 00 - 10:24 PM Well you just do that and don't worry yourself about us! And, uh, around about February, would you mind a few hundred house guests? How about just one? *BG* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Troll Date: 06 Nov 00 - 10:41 PM Actually, February is our worst month. We sometimes have frost and temps down into the low thirtys. But come on down. Just don't plan to stay!***BG*** There is a bumper sticker that is popular with a certain set down here. It says: "Leaving Florida? Take A Friend!" troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Timehiker Date: 07 Nov 00 - 01:58 AM Got caught in an early blizzard while camping in Norway once. We had a homemade tent with no floor. Packed the snow down as much as we could with the truck and set the coleman gasoline heater in the center of the tent. The heater sunk down until it reached solid ground, and mosquitoes flew up from the melted snow. Got to playing my guitar to pass the time, and left the water cans out in the cold. We cooked with melted snow for a couple of days while the drinking water thawed out. We had made sure to keep the cooking wine inside the tent, so we had plenty to drink in the meantime. Burn my guitar? My first wife!? Never!! Timehiker |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Crazy Eddie Date: 07 Nov 00 - 06:06 AM Naemason, Thats a Robert Service poem I hadn't encountered before. But it sounds REALLY cold.......... I'll have to get it before next summer. EddiewhoreadsSamMageetokeepcoolinDubaisummersof45Centigrade |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Naemanson Date: 07 Nov 00 - 06:21 AM Yeah, CR, go ahead and read that poem but don't skip to the end. It got a good laugh in there as well as a description of how cold it gets. Stay cool in the desert. Troll, I spent a year in Miami back in 1981. That's where my older daughter was born. After that we moved to Georgia where we spent the following three years. My wife's parents lived in Pensacola at the time. I am familiar with the weather in that neck of the woods. We spent Christmas of 1993 at the in-laws' house and had snow for the holiday. There wasn't enough to cover the ground but there was enough to see that it was snowing. It added insult to injury for we were living in Maine by that time and it seemed that we should expect FLORIDA weather not MAINE weather. It was worth a laugh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Troll Date: 07 Nov 00 - 07:23 AM Yeah. It,s always funny to see the tourists come here to North Central Florida in Feb. They expect the tropics because it's FLORIDA, as if when they cross the Ga. border the temp goes up 30 degrees. We are 300 miles north of Miami. We do a Medieval Farie here every year in Feb. and sometimes it's quite chilly. Some of the new vendors get taken by surprise because they're used to Largo and Sarasota in March. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Gypsy Date: 08 Nov 00 - 10:36 PM Naemanson, song about power cuts? Share lyrics? Live in the northwest nowhere, where you can count on power outages several times a winter. The first winter I feel sorry for them what don't plan ahead, but the subsequent ones....Must look up the Service poem. Was weaned on his poetry, but don't know that one....thanks! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Naemanson Date: 09 Nov 00 - 12:21 PM Gypsy, the group is called Artisan and the author of the song is Brian Bedford. I will post either a link or the words when I get time. I already owe words to another song to someone else but can't find that cossette. I guess I'd better get off my butt and get to work! Anyway, the song is almost identical to what you metioned in your post above. It tells of the warm seclusion of having no power and therefore no TV, radio, or other distraction. In the last verse the power comes on, they look at each other and then pull the power switch for the house. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Have you ever been so cold..... From: Gypsy Date: 09 Nov 00 - 11:36 PM Oh yeah, gotta have it! Would greatly appreciate a post. We live with gennies here for the just in case, and can count on being cut off from civilization (according to your perspective) several times a winter. But with a wood cookstove, and loads of candles, actually prefer it to electricity! Ah, the joys of being an acoustic musician..... |