Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now

Subject: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 04:09 PM

Jacko and I are trying a hearme site on Paltalk the room is Mudcat Folk/Blues Hearme try and jopin us if you have downloaded Paltalk...

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 04:25 PM

This site works well but when we set up a hearme session we should make the room private, because there were some unpleasant visitors when Jacko and I tried it.. Jon if you are around, I think this Paltalk will work but it needs someone who is familiar with setting up a room to make the permanent hearme link on it. Cheers. Dave (tam)

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 05:10 PM

Dave, if we are to use PalTalk, there are various options that could be considered.

The first choice is whether to make a group permanent or temporary.

A temporary group needs to be set up each time it is created but that doesn't take too long. A group can be open to all, private or password protected. The drawback with creating a private room is that it requires emails being sent to allow others in. If we are to use this type of room, and want to restrict access, I feel that password protection would be a better solution.

A permanent group allows the settings to be given once but requires someone with admin rights to open the room (a group can have an unlimited number of admins). It seems to have the advantage of allowing more control over obnoxious users, as any admin can boot them. It offers the choice of an open or a locked room, a locked room requiring a code to enter.

On top of this there is the question of ratings for a room. The choices are G - general audience including children, R - adult content but no sexually explicit conversation and A - anything goes!.

I am still not sure that we need to make a move yet and would be reluctant to do so unless we have to. My own inclination would be to set up a permanent open room (I think we can be welcoming to others provided we have admin control) with a rating of R (The reason I suggest R is that G rated rooms are monitored and are subject to text filters and I object to that on principle) and to hand out the admin key to anyone who may require it.

Before we do anything other than test the operation (sound quality and suitability for us), I feel that more discussion is needed especially if a permanent room was to be used in the future.

Jon

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: kendall
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 05:16 PM

I just downloaded it..piece of cake. I'm Ken 95

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 05:31 PM

I've just read Judy's post in the other Hearme Now thread, and it's not looking to good for us, at least not until the end of the year and there is no guarantee that the new product will be free or anymore reliable. I think that the time has come to move.

I am quite happy creating a room in my name and allowing others admin rights to open it and moderate it if necessary. Shall I go ahead and if so, should it be locked or open and what rating should I give it? The only fear I have with using the R rating to avoid the monitoring/ filtering and keeping the room unlocked is that it may be difficult to use persistanlty using foul language as a reason to boot someone.

Jon

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 06:03 PM

Tries downloading paltalk and had to uninstall as nothing else would work after that!!!!

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 06:06 PM

Working fine for Jacko and me Mrs Duck please try again. Jon i suggest you go ahead and create the room. The Hearme site that Aine has is just too unstable and is not conducive to good hearme sessions. Yours, Aye. Dave

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 06:36 PM

Mrs Duck, you are not alone!! It booted me off before I could even load it, and told me to restart my computer!

LTS

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 07:26 PM

Finally got paltalk working but couldn't find the mudcat room. I presume you'd all given up by then.

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 07:29 PM

By the way they wouldn't let me be Mrs,Duck so I had to become duckwoman!!!!I hpoe this doesn't mean I have to start wearing my Knickers outside my tights!!!

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 07:46 PM

The room is open now and is proving to be quite good. Groups/ Music/ Mudcat Song Circle.

Jon

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 07:57 PM

a first for me...could NOT get the thing installed!...It asked me to register as a new user, then told me I couldn't be found among registered users!(not sure whether it found other 'Bill Ds' or what it's problem was)...it seemed to be unable to tell that it was creating multiple copies of itself when I retried...

I uninstalled EVERYTHING.(I think)...and when I tried again, it IMMEDIATELY put my name in the sign-in box before asking me to register...then told me it was 'not initialized'.....

not sure what to do......

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 08:21 PM

I had "not initialised" after something went wrong, try re-booting Bill.

Jon

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 08:49 PM

I had the same problem as Bill when I tried to sneak back in under a different name. (I tried registering as someone else.)

The REASON I had to try to sneak back in was because cranky old Jon kicked my ass out of the room. It went sorta like Me: "I wonder if admins can kick each other out." Jon: "I don't know. --- THWAAAACK!!!" Me: "@#&*!!!" When I tried to get back in, I was told I was banned for 24 hours. I'm hurt. Sniff, sniff. (Not really)

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 09:16 PM

ok...*sigh*..will re-boot and see

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 09:22 PM

Working fine please send us your email if you need a link to join. Yours, Aye. Dave

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 09:36 PM

well,it will NOT work....when I click the sign-on, I get an error message from Norton that says I have a crash in

"OleMainThreadWndName"

and I am unable to delete everything and re-register under ANY name...

at the PalTalk web page where you check registration problems, it says I am NOT registered under the name and email/password I used..(and always use)...so if I am not registered properly, of course it won't let me in...but I can't get it to allow me to register!!...no new names, no old names....no way to uninstall and start all over at the beginning, because when I do what I think is a total un-install, and then re-install, it installs the files and brings up the sign-in box without displaying ANY registration dialogue...just a box with "Bill D" and a place for a password(how does it KNOW I am Bill D if it is a clean re-install??)....and when I use the only password I know, it BOMBS and starts me all over!......*grump*

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: alison
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 09:41 PM

you and me both Bill... I can't get anywhere

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 09:46 PM

Bill, I think this is one for PalTalk (assuming that their help is better than Hearme's).

For others, PalTalk can be downloaded from here.

Jon

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 09:53 PM

when you email your problem to PalTalk, you get an automated reply with all their online help pages listed...sort of a pre-digested FAQ...not sure how you actually get someone's attention...but thanks, guys

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 10:01 PM

Keep trying guys this site is superior to the old one we have had ten in and no crashes. The sound quality alone is worth the effort. Yours, Aye. Dave

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: alison
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 10:12 PM

I keep getting a

MMSYSTEM020 the driver did not generate a valid OPEN callback

so does Bill... when we try to install.. then a fatal error

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Matt_R
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 10:17 PM

Works great here!

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 10:21 PM

Alison and Bill, one other thought, on install, etc. Make sure that there are no other programs are open.

Jon

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 10:36 PM

Keep trying this is worth the effort. TTFN

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: alison
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 10:50 PM

sorry boys... it's b*ll*xed.....

tried the whole reboot thing...... keep getting the same error just after I accept the terms and conditions

might get Mark to have a go later

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From:
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 11:12 PM

BillD,

The first time i went into PalTalk i found myself in a beginners room with an online audio and chat helper.

He demonstrated remarkable sang froid under a barrage of written and audio questions

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: John Hardly
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 11:16 PM

sound is great but I can't find anybody.--John

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 11:25 PM

Everyone must be gone now.

I didn't see the mudcat room, so I went into some of the other music rooms. My sound kept fading in and out like someone was turning the volume on and off very quickly.

The setup looks alot like the rooms and lobbies of the full HEARME service. For that service you also have to download software, register with a user name, etc. (See the earliest of the HEARME posts). I don't know if the permanent HEARME lobbies using their full software are any more or less stable than Paltalk.

JAB (bumdittybum) on paltalk

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: alison
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 11:29 PM

still tells me that installation was successful.... but then the fatal errors start again.. and yes I have deleted and rebooted MANY times........

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 11:35 PM

Jacko...*grin*....nice idea...IF you can get registered far enough to GET to the helpful beginners room...(I found that with "FireTalk"....but this I can't even get my name registered...and it wont let me start over!!!!!

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Margaret V
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 11:46 PM

Well, I seem to have successfully installed, but I had the same sound problem as JAB. I was listening to Ivan but every two seconds or so the sound would cut out. Hope to hear some more of you in there soon. Margaret

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: alison
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 12:29 AM

OK.. now I've managed to register (alison in oz).....but everytime I get to a room (I got into the newbies room for about 10 secs).. it gives me the error messages again

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: alison
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 12:44 AM

Has everyone else got mulitple Paltalk icons?

I only have one lot of it installed.. yet I have 3 different buttons for accesssing it..... one on my toolbar, one on my desktop, and one in my start menu..... is that right?

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From:
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 02:13 AM

Alison yes, there seem to be three windows that you can speak through, also when i was level testing, Dave could hear me as well

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Musicman
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 02:28 AM

got in
no problems
visitied a few groups
sang a few songs
left

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: MMario
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 11:56 AM

I'm conservative. when I installed it; I told it I didn't want a desktop icon and that I didn't want it to start automatically - that I would start it manually. working fine. I get an icon in my tray WHEN I start it, but before that it is only in my start;program list

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 11:59 AM

I'm there now if anyone wants to drop by to make sure it works. BTW if you do accidentally get the desktop icon, just drap it to the dumper (recycle bin).

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 12:13 PM

I have a firewall on my computer (ZoneAlarm) which I have to manually allow to access the web (it doesn't ask - just won't let me) and shut off to hear anything.

Bill, maybe their support actually supports? At [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: kendall
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 12:19 PM

What's wrong with having a desk top icon?

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: MMario
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 12:21 PM

on occasion it can cause errors (not often - but it can happen)

but mainly I just like to get rid of the clutter.

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Morticia
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 01:47 PM

well I seem to be installed without too many problems.....proof of the pudding and all that though, haven't actually tried it out yet.

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 02:26 PM

Just opened the room for ten minutes if anyone wants to try it. Yours, Aye. Dave

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 02:41 PM

Room works fine, I'm off now.

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 04:07 PM

I'm a bit confused as ever. Is the room there all the time because it doesn't appear on the list I get under music groups. I can access the other rooms and have spoken to one or two people so I know it works. Perhaps someone would like to test it with me soon

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 04:57 PM

It still won't even let me in the door, let alone boot me out at registration..... *sigh*..... What am I doing wrong? What other programs must I not have open? How can I do blue clicky thing if I don't have at least this program open? I'm buggered if I'm going to write all that lot down and type it in manually!

LTS

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Catrin
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 05:10 PM

Its not there all the time. Someone who has Jon Freemans Password has to open it as an admin person. I managed to do it earlier and then sat there by myself for a while feeling silly.

I'll try it again and see what happens

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 05:47 PM

Got cut off Catrin but at least I know it works now. I'll wait to see how we go about making it open to all 'catters without the world and her husband being able to gatecrash. See you next Friday hopefully.

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Catrin
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 06:04 PM

OK Mrs Duck - not to worry.

If we're going to use it regularly, I think we all need the admin code thingy. It felt a bit of a responsibility just then, not being able to just slip away for a few minutes. If I had left, everyone else would have got booted out.

Anyway, catchya later,

Catrin

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: alison
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 07:13 PM

I let Mark have a go at this last night (for hours).... he works with computers....... and still got nowhere...

It definately doesn't like zone alarm....

but he couldn't even ping the site using DOS.... maybe the site was down when he tried... but at this stage things are not looking good......

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 11:25 PM

I was just in there - no Mudcat room, and now i know why! I did drop in to a couple of other sites with talk, text & music; sound cutting out quite badly, but one of the occupants advised me to go "Setup" > "Advanced Sound Settings" > and check boxes #1, 3, and 5, then reboot. The format is very reminicient of HearMe - which I havn't been able to get into for quite some time now. Do we have to have "Adult Content" enabled for Mudcat (when it's on)? How do I contact or "call" fellow 'Catters on this thing? I tried calling Kendall with "Ken 95" but no dice!

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: bigchuck
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 07:03 AM

Jaque, I believe that you can only "call" a person if he/she is logged into Paltalk. You can leave a message that they will get the next time they log on.

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 05:06 PM

Just be n in with Dick Greenhaus Susan of DT and Jacko/nz things were patchy and then I think Jacko was cut off and he was the admin so the room got closed/ Bit of a nuisance that

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 07:40 PM

Humph, I'm not happy with this..... how can you complain of gatecrashers when the only thing crashing round here is my computer.....

Anyone have ANY suggestions?? Please????

LTS

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 08:12 PM

I was just "in" and didn't "see" anybody I knew. What do I do next?

Liz, I can sympathize with you. It was not an easy registration, but I only locked up once. I finally became Mary in Ky_1 (go figure.)

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: bigchuck
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 08:21 PM

Mary, the room is not there unless someone's in it. It needs to be opened by someone with an admin key (there are several of us) but once it's opened, it stays open as long as anybody's there.

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 08:28 PM

What's the name of the room?

I just looked at my email confirmation from Paltalk, and there was no way for me to respond. So I'm still not sure if I'm really registered.

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From:
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 09:42 PM

Mary the room is called....Mudcat Song Circle...and it's in the music group directory

I'm going there now

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: JazzyJ
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 09:52 PM

I can't see the room is noone there.. Looked under Music.

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: momnopp
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 10:47 PM

Well, it worked very smoothly for me - I got in and everything! Very cool, hope it turns out to be a better deal than Hearme.

Talk to you all soon!

JudyO

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 06:30 AM

I have just found this in the FAQ. It may help some:

Q. When I complete the final dialogue box, during registration, Paltalk freezes.

A. Try this test out: Start up a DOS window and at the prompt type "telnet 209.67.17.227 5002".
When you press the Enter key a window should come up that says "Hello".
If this does not happen, then you will probably not be able to connect from the computer and location you are currently dialing from.

If, however, you did receive the 'Hello' in the box, then what you need to do is download a special program by clicking on this link. Save this program to your desktop and run it. It is called 'regfixer.exe'. It is a tiny DOS console application which should pop up a DOS window very briefly and then disappaear. Then try the registration or logon once again. This has been known to fix many connections. Please write to [e-mail] and let us know if this helped you or not.

Note: If you are an America Online or Compuserve user and you are getting this message, or if you cannot hear the person you are talking to (or vice versa) your best bet would be to switch to a free ISP such as Alta Vista, NetZero, FreeI.net or any other of the range of free providers out there. Your Paltalk woes should end there.

Jon

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: campfire
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 06:10 PM

Yeah, and I'm one of those who does NOT get the "hello" box; I get a "connection failed". So it seems JollyKim and I will not be able to be PalTalkers. I emailed them asking whether it is location or something about my computer that I can fix. Will post response here if it comes.

campfire

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: campfire
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 06:23 PM

Phhhhttt! All I got for a resonse was the same list of stuff in the FAQ. So much for "support".

campfire

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 12 Nov 00 - 09:19 AM

Well I got in, but now I can't find where to navigate. I do a search for Mudcat song circle and got nothing. Is it only there when someone is in it??

LTS

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: nutty
Date: 12 Nov 00 - 09:40 AM

Liz--- you click on 'groups' and then 'music' if mudcat is open it will then appear on the list and show how many people are there. I f you want to open the room Jon has posted instructions in the forum

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 12 Nov 00 - 06:10 PM

Thanks, now all I have to do is try to remember how to put it in favourites and how to get four icons off the desktop!!!

Anyone likely to be in there soon so I can try it out??

LTS

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Katcina
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 02:38 AM

Jon,

Thank you so very much for allowing me to read about the beginning of how the Pal Talk experience came to be. I found it very interresting and enlightening not to dis-clude a bit humourous affection from one that has been through the trials and tribulations with Pal Talk. My over aall experience with Ppal Talk has been a very pleasant onee and will continue to be so. One day I must pay a visit to Hearme if only to have the comparison to judge Pal Talk quality by. Thanks again for the great background information!!

Katcina

Subject: RE: Hearme-Paltalk New Hearme Now
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Feb 01 - 07:58 AM

Katcina, our suspicions about Hearme proved true and the service was eventually withdrawn in January this year. Another company is offering to provide a free service that allows web masters to voice enable their web site which was mentioned in the threads a few weeks ago. I don't like it and can't host it anyway. I don't know if anyone else has tried.

Jon