Tarantino - overvalued

Subject: Tarantino - overvalued
From: GUEST,Sergio Alguim
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 03:21 PM

I have seen two movies from this regissor Tarantino (or something): Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown. I think both of them were quite boring, especial the Jackie Brown-movie. Pulp Fiction only had a little bit of excitement, becuase you never knew when a guy suddenly start to shoot against another. But every horror-film can make that kind of "excitement". This "look-the-same-scenes-from another view" that Tarantino obviously like, is a good ide, but its not enough to make the "Jackie Brown"-movie interesting.

I think "True Romance" with Christian Slater(?) was much better. And "Things to do in Denver when you are dead" was also better, altough it was a little boring in the start.

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: rube1
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 08:19 PM

I agree about Jackie Brown, a classic case of a kid in a candy store with too much money and no adult supervision. Indulgent, self-referential, self-congratulatory, pseudo-hip mishmash of attitudinal dialogue supported by more name actors than any director but Woody Allen should need to carry a picture. True Romance had that one great line in it where Brad Pitt, the stoner on the couch, said, "Don't condensend (sic) to me, motherfucker." That's all I remember. Reservoir Dogs was a breath of fresh, but bloody air. Pulp Fiction did more to glamorize heroin use than any ten movies I can think of, but it was original, at least.

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: Branwen23
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 08:24 PM

um... who are you people?

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: Matt_R
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 08:27 PM

No comment, since I never seen any of his movies! But he..heh heh..has the same little...hmmm...quirk...as I do!

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: alison
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 10:40 PM

why are we discussing this in a music forum???? hahahaha

anyway.. didn't like any of the ones mentioned.. but I love 'dusk 'til dawn' with Geroge Clooney.....

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: GUEST,Lepus Rex
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 06:51 AM

I'm not a big Tarantino fan. Pulp Fiction was OK, until Tarantino's 20 minute cameo destroyed the whole damned thing. I never did see Jackie Brown.

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: rube1
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 07:13 AM

Branwen 23, I'm an obnoxious movie critic. How you doin'

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: GeorgeH
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 10:41 AM

rubel, you clearly watched a totally different Pulp Fiction to the one I've seen a couple of times . .

One thing I find refreshing about Tarantino is that he's HONEST about violence . . . it's messy, gory and painful. Unlike most films which make violence "no big deal" . . .

G.

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 10:48 AM

I'm pretty much with you on Pulp Fiction George. I also didn't find it "glamorizing" heroin. Like the violence, I thought it pretty honest.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 11:16 AM

I loved Pulp Fiction & Reservoir Dogs, although I don't like Blood & Guts. I sure didn't find anything glamourous about the Heroin use.

I thought Jackie Brown was okay.

Quentin has a way with soundtracks too.

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: Giac
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 11:18 AM

Well, let's music-relate it:

Anybody heard June Carter Cash's song about Quentin Tarantino? Apparently one of her granddaughter's was involved with him and she (June) has (to put it mildly) a very bad opinion of the man. It's on a CD entitled "press on" (lower case intentional), cut number 11, called Tiffany Anastasia Lowe. - 1999 Risk Records, RSK4107.

I got the CD for a song she does with Johnny called Far Side Banks of Jordan. The CD has some pretty good people on it, including Marty Stuart, Johnny Cash, Norman Blake, Rodney Crowell.

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: annamill
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 11:34 AM

I love watching Taratino movies. They're very unpredictable. Usually I feel I could have written the plot of a movie, but not with Quentin. Owning a video store has given me the opportunity to see all of his movies. The variety of subjects amazes me. Like Dusk til Dawn. One of my favorite vampire type movies. I was not surprised when I found out it was his. Same with Desperado with Bandares. Different and exciting. By the way, I wasn't crazy about Jackie Brown the first time I saw it, but I watched it again and found I actually enjoyed it. Maybe when you know the plot and you know what's actually going on, the movie is much more interesting. When I open my store, I plan on having a "Quentin Tarantino" section.

Love, annamill

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: rube1
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 05:47 PM

"glamorize the use of heroin" You old folks are probably long past the impressionable age, so maybe you didn't notice how the whole "coolness" thing Travolta had going on tied in with his private heroin euphoria. Also, the zany "did she od, omigod, how can we revive her" scene, played more or less for laughs, but with a message attached, (don't do this-it's not good) or the a scene w/ Eric Stoltz the dealer where they discuss price vs the unparalleled quality of the high. I'm pretty sure this was the same movie you saw. Anyway, it was an offhand comment. I'm not the movie police. The famed director's intention may not have been to glamorize it, but the effect is a rippling effect that is beyond his control. I know this: kids watch that movie and think nothing of it. heroin, ecstasy, pot, rufies, cocaine, whatever, there's not a lot of discrimination involved. (hey, it's all good) am I so wrong?

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 29 Dec 00 - 03:22 PM

Yeah, the end of scene where thay jam the needle into Uma's chest is SO glamourous, and when Travolta gets blown away because he's high.

Now if you want to see something that really glamorizes junk, go see "Requiem for a Dream ..."

Subject: RE: Tarantino - overvalued
From: rube1
Date: 29 Dec 00 - 10:56 PM

hey, I never said there weren't ambiguities involved. Travolta got blown away because the script said he gets blown away. I really don't get what the argument is here. And no thanks re Requiem for a Dream. Cinema salvaged one of Selby's books, Last Exit to Brooklyn, I'm not eager to see the next attempt.