PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE

Subject: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 09:40 PM

Recently a pornography chain by e-mail began among several perverted Mudcatters and friends who had been asking each for pornography as needs arose. The pornography chain grew in number of recipients and requests for pornography throughout that month and was issued weekly or oftener as urgent pornography needs required.

The pornography Chain is still very new and is still creating itself via smut received from participants. Its existence evinces respect for Mudcatters who find Mudcat-posted pornography requests problematic, and it allows for pornographic regard of deeply personal pornography requests in an environment free of condemnation or censure.

The pornography list also includes pornography for the Mudcat Cafe and its leaders. Of course this pornography, like all pornography on the web, is entirely optional! Participants are expected to exercise mature responsibility in how they use and respond to the list-- there are no Pornography Chain Police forcing anyone to view the pornography provided or the situations described. Participants also are expected and asked to provide feedback about the conduct of the Pornography Chain. This includes thoughtful discussion toward consensus should anything about the pornography list be offensive in any way.

Thank you.

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 09:48 PM

Dear Guest,

You aren't going to spam me with "Nasty Teens" are you? I will have to Ctrl, Alt, Delete if you do. Damn that AOL!

wdyat12

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 09:54 PM

Why, shoot! No More'n ol' Sister Fuzziwigg's gonna SPAM ya with JEEZIS, I ain't! You jus' pray that I don't!

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:02 PM

Max, who is this? "Out" them please. I figure it is the same person who started the "Curse" thread and didn't get a satisfactory response.

Sorry to refresh this and bring it to the top, but enough is enough.

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:12 PM

Yeah Max, Give us decent folk a break, unless you're afraid to exercize your right of censorship. wdyat12

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:21 PM

silliest thing I've seen in ages!...why would anyone need a 'chain'...and why post a message with no information? Mudcat doesn't need a special 'porn' list....and 'perverted'? The silliest idea of all is that 'porn' and 'perversion' are equivalent...ah, well...takes all kinds

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:27 PM

wdyat, Max tends to try and avoid censorship unless there was an extreme personal attack. Whatever Max may or may not do with this thread, leave him alone to make his choices and don't make comments like that. It is his forum and IMO, he runs the best one I know of on the internet.

Jon

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:36 PM

I don't even own a pornograph!

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:37 PM

OK Jon,

Lost it there for a minute I guess. This is America after all and if people want to shame the acts of love, so be it.

wdyat12

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:40 PM

We could turn it into a Mudcat Special:

Hey, baby, have you checked out the Remote Female Orgasm thread, part I and II? Whooo hoo, honey, if you can't do it by remote, you can't do it at all.........and while we're at it, we can curse them French Letters that leak P's and Q's.........you wouldn't want to have your pees leak, now would you? (ooo, let alone your Q'sss)

Get Depends, they work.

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:40 PM

wdyat, re America: Mudcat may be based in America but never forget that the forum is international. I am a UK member, currently living in Norfolk, England.

Jon

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:46 PM

Dear Guest,

Show me the acts of shame to which you refer!

Another fallen one, wdyat12

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:58 PM

Just to roil the mud, I suspect what brought this to the top is the threads like the Female Orgasm one. As we saw months ago in another episode of this sort there are people out there to whom the buzz words are the flint to spark their (f)ire.

And no, 'tain't me.

Ebbie

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:03 PM

Eb, you are probably correct, and I apologize for topping it up once again........I is gone from "here".

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:03 PM

OH! SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! On me for even the faintest hint that I might be interested in such filth. wdyat12

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: mkebenn
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:12 PM

Ebbie, what this is is cheap personal ridicule of the worst kind posted by another "guest". I have run afoul of Herself myself, but this is in pretty poor taste and far below the standard of this forum. Peace, Mike

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:16 PM

No guys............Once again we have a wimpering little motherfucker going after someone without the guts to use their name. Its another of the member bullshit things and its getting real old. In this case, they're flaming Praise/WYSIWYG/Susan for the prayer chain thread.....Click Here.

We've been through this stuff so often...............It happened with Rick last I think, but I may have missed one. We've hashed the religious thing over and over and a minor truce has been in place for awhile, but some gutless wonder can't leave well enough alone.

I'm not Christian....I don't care what is going on, but for the most part Susan has kept a lower profile on these issues as have others on other things. We just have to go through this kinda' crap every now and then and it is bothersome, but not a big deal.

I will admit that I am at the point where I'm ready for Max to out some of these dorks. He has far more patience for crappola than I do.

Spaw

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: mkebenn
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:27 PM

Yea, kinda what I meant 'spaw. Wasn't this a MUSIC forum? Mike. (still blushing over the Hot Rod Lincoln bugger up, but see how the 'Cat improves your vocabulary)

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:30 PM

Oh dear, I'm sorry, but I think it's funny. I needed a good laugh. You just don't know how funny it is to see my own words juxtaposed up against other topics. I mean I think enough is enough, but really it's a stitch. I guess I musta done a better job of being clinically journalistic in my post than I could have dreamed-- it seems to fit any topic, just like good boilerplate press release templates should!

I do want royalties though!

Now look, friends, and concerned Catters. If this does not bother me, please don't let it bother YOU. Just ignore it till the next hot news makes this boring, OK?

I claim the "February Exception from Sense" exemption from punishment for this person. Leave hium/her in peace.

~Susan

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:34 PM

Too late Wizzywig.................

Spaw

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:34 PM

I want to see the Booty NOW!!!

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Amergin
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:37 PM

Then go look in the mirror, wdyat12....

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:40 PM

Oh Pat, you DID warn me!

~S~

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:42 PM

Amergin,

I shall be redeemed! If the lights off.

wdyat12

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:43 PM

I always blame it on the Merlot. wdyat12

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: mkebenn
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:44 PM

O.K, set mind to ignore. Mike

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:57 PM

Amergin,

Have a little compassion. Please! Remember "the great only appear great because [I] am on [my] knees. LET US RISE."

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: flattop
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 12:13 AM

wdyat12, it's guys like you who give woody a bad name.

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 01:54 AM

Sorry flattop, I guess I overstepped my bounds tonight. What are we doing in this fithy place anyway? wdyat12

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 02:07 AM

wydat, you sound a lot like me..next thing you know, They will be saying you are me plus kat/katlaughing....THEY are convinced that we are the same person.......hee hee hee( the Pembroke Corgi took the Group in Westminester tonight----hah! my babees will beat Merlee any day!!

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: GUEST,jones4
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 05:53 AM

l l l ,l..l I don't own a pornograph either.

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: nutty
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 06:03 AM

Can I suggest that GUEST checks the the Headlines in todays UK newspapers

He/She will then understand just how offensive such a thread can be

In case access is not available - the Headlines deal with the conviction of 8 men(members of the WONDERLAND CLUB)who circulated CHILD PORNOGRAPHY via the internet. In order to qualify for membersip each man had to provide 10,000 NEW IMAGES of children being abused(the youngest of which was approx 10 months old)

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: nutty
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 06:19 AM

I lost the last part of my message which said :-

I make no apologies for finding such a thread offensive and would ask Max to remove it from the Forum

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 07:47 AM

A Great Idea, Nuttster, if Max zaps the offensive Creeping Jesus threads at the same time. Eye of the Beholder, and all.

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 10:03 AM

Careful, Sorcha, from what I've seen of wdyat12's postings, I am inclined to agree with flattop....wouldn't wanna get too close.

katregretablypostingtoapointlessworthlessthread

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Katcina
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 11:11 AM

mke, you confirmed an already strong suspicion.

Susan/WYSIWYG, you are more fun than 3 barrells full.

Scorcha, I was accused in a pm of being Max of all people. I could do worse I reckon!!

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: flattop
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 11:57 AM

I trust that you were laughing when you wrote that kat because I haven't had time to read many of wdyat12's posts.

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 12:31 PM

Jeez 'Top, what have you got against my little Martin 0-18 friend?

" "wdyat12, it's guys like you who give woody a bad name".

Actually, I'm too old now to bother with porn. It's enough for me to just read Catspaw!

Rick

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: flattop
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 12:58 PM

Not much Rick, I was just kidding.

Your "little Martin 0-18 friend" phrase has me confused.

Woody is the only nickname that I've been called that I like.

Seems like some people are serious on this thread but I don't have time to figure out who is before the weekend.

In the 1930s Withold Gombrowicz wrote 'Perhaps I overestimated the seriousness of being serious. Perhaps I overestimated the maturity of mature persons.'

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: GUEST,tar_heel
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 02:33 PM

geezzz......i come in here to find something worthwhile,but all i find is the same ole smut!!what a disappointment!

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 03:56 PM

This may be the final straw! Pornography Chain Mail and once again I have been excluded from the clique. And this time it is different clique - one that doesn't include Spaw and Kat. HMPHHH!

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 04:57 PM

'Top, when i announced to Mudcat that a new guitar was coming home I nicknamed it "Woody"! Some people name their body parts...I name my guitars!

Rick

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Greyeyes
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 05:15 PM

"We just have to go through this kinda' crap every now and then and it is bothersome, but not a big deal." 'Nuff said.

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 05:40 PM

Anybody with a name like Woody sure takes a lot of hits. I was given that name, I didn't choose it. I was also given my first name, Peter. Go figure.

wdyat12

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: Penny S.
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 05:57 PM

I'd reiterate what nutty contributed above. One of the men concerned was once a pupil of mine, and still lived near the school. I've been wondering what I missed 20 years ago, or if I've missed anything recently, if he had victims the police did not pick up. If you had seen the few images the BBC felt able to show on TV you would not find this subject laughworthy.

Penny

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 06:55 PM

This is addressed to the people who have already posted in this thread a number of times, and who are still posting, in an attempt to keep a tired laugh going or discuss a topic other than the actual idea behind this thread.

For some of the newer members, let me explain something. A convention that is seldom used here at the Mudcat is when someone says " 'Nuff said." When it is used, however, it's a good idea to respect it. It means, "I'm being as polite as I'm going to be, but DROP IT." I guess the penalty for not honoring that hint would be losing the respect of the person who declared " 'Nuff said."

This thread was aimed at me and activities associated with me. So the one who can claim the right to say " 'Nuff Said" on this matter would be ME. I did say it on another one of these threads to forestall people feeling a need to defend what needed no defending; it was respected and I appreciate that.

This thread provided a light relief to the heaviness of the idea of flaming, for a time, and while that was its focus I had no problem. But now it's gotten another agenda mixed in. If you really want to address a serious subject-- please, would you start your own thread with a title that lends an opportunity to make a start at a reasonable discussion? Just because this topic restimulated a concern you have, does not mean you have to use this thread as the platform to address it.

So-- 'NUFF SAID.

~Susan

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: nutty
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 07:05 PM

Susan - I'm sure there is a communication breakdown somewhere but laterly I am having great difficulty understanding what the hell this is all about

There may also be a cultural difference here but I can find nothing amusing in a thread such as this

NUFF SAID

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: wdyat12
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 07:10 PM

Why are we all here talking then?

NUFF SAID!

wdyat12

Subject: RE: PORNOGRAPHY CHAIN UPDATE
From: little john cameron
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 07:50 PM

Ah silence at last, ljc