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BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes

IanC 15 Apr 02 - 06:22 AM
Nigel Parsons 15 Apr 02 - 06:29 AM
greg stephens 15 Apr 02 - 06:35 AM
IanC 15 Apr 02 - 06:51 AM
greg stephens 15 Apr 02 - 06:58 AM
Harry Basnett 15 Apr 02 - 07:27 AM
Harry Basnett 15 Apr 02 - 07:30 AM
IanC 15 Apr 02 - 07:37 AM
Harry Basnett 15 Apr 02 - 07:43 AM
greg stephens 15 Apr 02 - 07:58 AM
Harry Basnett 15 Apr 02 - 08:00 AM
IanC 15 Apr 02 - 08:02 AM
greg stephens 15 Apr 02 - 08:07 AM
The Walrus at work 15 Apr 02 - 08:17 AM
The Walrus at work 15 Apr 02 - 08:20 AM
Jeri 15 Apr 02 - 08:40 AM
greg stephens 15 Apr 02 - 08:51 AM
DMcG 15 Apr 02 - 08:59 AM
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greg stephens 15 Apr 02 - 09:03 AM
IanC 15 Apr 02 - 09:03 AM
greg stephens 15 Apr 02 - 09:06 AM
Snuffy 15 Apr 02 - 09:37 AM
Paul from Hull 15 Apr 02 - 09:38 AM
greg stephens 15 Apr 02 - 09:53 AM
IanC 15 Apr 02 - 10:05 AM
greg stephens 15 Apr 02 - 10:15 AM
IanC 15 Apr 02 - 11:29 AM
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Subject: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: IanC
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 06:22 AM

Here's a quiz with sort of cryptic clues. In each case, the answer is a person and a related song or tune. Some of them are easy and some less straightforward. For those that aren't quickly answered, you might want to collaborate in the thread.

Also, any further information about the people, songs, tunes etc. will make things more interesting.

I'll drop in now and again to help (if needed) and to summarise the state of play.

HERE IT IS ...

1. Bill's chronometric stone disk helped UK folk music to get its glad rags on.

2. Tom's dad played this tune, and it was under a greenwood tree ... though it's old, it's a military pleasure.

3. A honeyed conundrum from Ralph.

4. Paddy's just a name that Doctor R. used, when he was adulterating the brew for the proletariat.

5. Hibernia blooms for Roy ... but never since 1314.

6. Robert thought that turning on the light would be useless ... He won't think again.

7. Mr. Kipling might make beautiful cakes, but only Peter could bring Danny back to life for him.

8. Hugh and Mona involved in a great tragedy. She got sunk and never came back.

9. Waiting for a train could be quite a hazard for Jean. She could be there for some time.

10. Sir Hugh is sailing back to the island of malts.

Good Luck!
Ian


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 06:29 AM

Ian, slightly harder than the 3 I put together, but if you missed them try Song Quiz
I'm working on yours!


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 06:35 AM

Am I right we should send answers to you as a PM to avoid spoiling others fun?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: IanC
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 06:51 AM

No

stick them in here, it's sometimes more fun seeing people work them all out. If you know all of them, you can feed them in on demand if you like.

Cheers!
Ian


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 06:58 AM

OK I'll avoid the obvious ones I know and have astab at one I'm not sure of. Question3: I thinkRalph vaughan Williams did a setting of "Where the bee sucks". Is that right?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 07:27 AM

Hmm..

Number 2........." Soldier's Joy."
Number 5........." Flower of Scotland."
Number 7........." Danny Deever."
Number 8........." Ellan Vannin."

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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 07:30 AM

And number 6..." Knockin' on Heavens Door."

Still working on the others...nice quiz.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: IanC
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 07:37 AM

Greg

No 3. not even close ... sorry!

Harry

No. 6 is getting there but not right. What about the people for the other 4?

;-)
Ian


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 07:43 AM

Hi, Ian...

Is number one William Kimber?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 07:58 AM

6 is dont think twice, not heavens door.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 08:00 AM

Sorry about the people...

Number 2...Thomas Hardy's tune manuscripts (hence the "Under the Greenwood Tree" clue).
Number 5...Written by Roy Williamson of the Corries about the battle of Bannockburn, 1314.
Number 7...referring to the poem "Danny Deever" by Rudyard Kipling set to music by the late, great Peter Bellamy.
Number 8...written by Hugh Jones of the Spinners about the sinking of steamship Ellan Vannin en route from the Isle of Man(Mona)to Liverpool.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: IanC
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 08:02 AM

Harry

No ... but you don't have to assume old Bill was English (or that old).

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 08:07 AM

To answer a question with a question: what links Q4 to The "Trumpet Hornpipe"


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 08:17 AM

I have this feeling that number 1 is "Rock Around the Clock" (Bill Hailey and the Comets).

Walrus


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 08:20 AM

Sorry, I missed off the second half of my post
Is 4 anything to do with "Watering the Workers' Beer"?

W


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 08:40 AM

9. The L & N Don't Stop Here Anymore by Jean Ritchie.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 08:51 AM

If you don't like my Vaughan Williams theory forQ3, how about McTell's Sweet Mystery?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: DMcG
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 08:59 AM

No 3: Sweet Mystery, by Ralph McTell?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: DMcG
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 09:00 AM

Damn, gred beat me!


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 09:03 AM

4: i withdraw my Trumpet hornpipe question, I meant to write Howe's Hornpipe and I got confused etween two famous tunes.. I think Paddy Ryan wrote the "Man who waters the workers beer", and I think his real surname was Fisher, so I guess he was Dr R.... Fisher??


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: IanC
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 09:03 AM

Coming on!

1. is Bill Hailey's "Rock Around The Clock". Here's a good history of the song at The Rockabilly Hall of Fame.

2. is Thomas Hardy, as Harry says, but what about the tune?

Any idea about 3. yet?

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 09:06 AM

Soldiers Joy


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: Snuffy
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 09:37 AM

10. Sir Hugh Roberton? Mingulay Boat Song?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 09:38 AM

Too cryptic for me! (Though I did guess at Soldiers Joy, & got Flower of Scotland & Danny Deever...& NEARLY had the Ellen Vannen one)


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 09:53 AM

Re q10: I'm very fond of islands and whisky, butI dont think ive ever tried one from Mingulay. Can you supply a name? Actually, i have serious doubts: I dont recall any people onMingulay, let alone a distillery but ive not explored.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: IanC
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 10:05 AM

3. "Sweet Mystery" Ralph McTell (sorry, i missed the previous posts).

4. "The Very Fat Man Who Waters the Worker's Beer" - Paddy Ryan (in fact a professional gentleman, Dr. R. E. W. Fisher, using an alias to conceal his leftist leanings)

5. Flower of Scotland (Written by Roy Williamson of "The Corries") Although "Flower of Scotland" is not a traditional song, it has been adopted as Scotland's de facto national anthem, along with "Scotland the Brave". The lyrics commemorate the defeat of Edward II at Bannockburn in 1314. (thanks Harry)

6. 6. "Don't Think Twice, It's Alright" - Bob Dylan. 'nuff said.

7. "Danny Deever" - Rudyard Kipling / Peter Bellamy. (thanks again, Harry)

8. (Harry again) "Ellen Vanin" - Hughie Jones.

9. The L & N Don't Stop Here Anymore - Jean Ritchie. (thanks Jeri)

I don't think there's much malt on Mingulay, though. Anyone get a little closer for No. 10?

Cheers!
Ian


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 10:15 AM

Of course! fool that i am strikes head theatrically. No 10 is Westering Home.Terrible song. been done to death too often.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: IanC
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 11:29 AM

Thanks folks, here's a convenient summary in one place.

1. Bill Hailey - Rock Around The Clock
2. Thomas Hardy - The Soldier's Joy
3. Ralph McTell - Sweet Mystery
4. Dr R. E. W. Fisher (Paddy Ryan) - Watering the Workers Beer
5. Roy Williamson (Corries) - Flower of Scotland
6. Bob Dylan - Don't Think Twice, It's Alright
7. Peter Bellamy / Rudyard Kipling - Danny Deever
8. Hughie Jones - Ellen Vannin
9. Jean Ritchie (Than Hall) - The L & N Don't Stop Here Any More
10. Sir Hugh Roberton - Westering Home

Cheers!
Ian


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 11:32 AM

Thanks a lot IanC. Your effort is much appreciated. when's the next one?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 12:17 PM

Cheers Ian...that stirred the pld grey matter!


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Subject: RE: BS: Quiz - People and Songs/Tunes
From: IanC
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 12:26 PM

Thanks

Got the materials for the next one (more like my traditional ones) on a piece of paper somewhere in my bedroom. Last week, I put it somewhere safe and now I can't find it. When I do, I'll stick it in.

Cheers!
Ian


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