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BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread

catspaw49 01 May 02 - 11:20 AM
GUEST,Chip A. 01 May 02 - 11:24 AM
GUEST 01 May 02 - 11:26 AM
GUEST 01 May 02 - 11:28 AM
GUEST 01 May 02 - 11:46 AM
catspaw49 01 May 02 - 11:59 AM
GUEST 01 May 02 - 12:01 PM
Amos 01 May 02 - 12:02 PM
Big Mick 01 May 02 - 12:15 PM
catspaw49 01 May 02 - 12:23 PM
GUEST,Betty 01 May 02 - 12:24 PM
GUEST 01 May 02 - 12:27 PM
GUEST,Betty 01 May 02 - 12:33 PM
Jim Dixon 01 May 02 - 12:59 PM
catspaw49 01 May 02 - 01:10 PM
DougR 01 May 02 - 01:17 PM
Little Hawk 01 May 02 - 01:20 PM
GUEST,Igwig the Iguana 01 May 02 - 01:24 PM
Paul from Hull 01 May 02 - 01:24 PM
Paul from Hull 01 May 02 - 01:26 PM
Don Firth 01 May 02 - 01:31 PM
GUEST,Igwig the Iguana 01 May 02 - 01:32 PM
GUEST,the one and only true Igwig the Iguana 01 May 02 - 01:46 PM
Jim Dixon 01 May 02 - 02:16 PM
GUEST,Betty the Wasp 01 May 02 - 02:42 PM
Pseudolus 01 May 02 - 02:49 PM
GUEST,Betty the Wasp 01 May 02 - 03:03 PM
Thonolan 01 May 02 - 03:24 PM
Paul from Hull 01 May 02 - 03:28 PM
Herga Kitty 01 May 02 - 04:49 PM
McGrath of Harlow 01 May 02 - 04:51 PM
Don Firth 01 May 02 - 05:03 PM
GUEST,Uncookied Member 01 May 02 - 05:05 PM
Amos 01 May 02 - 05:12 PM
Steve in Idaho 01 May 02 - 06:28 PM
John Routledge 01 May 02 - 06:33 PM
Bill D 01 May 02 - 07:23 PM
McGrath of Harlow 01 May 02 - 08:04 PM
Bert 01 May 02 - 08:18 PM
Rolfyboy6 01 May 02 - 08:19 PM
Little Hawk 01 May 02 - 11:10 PM
Troll 01 May 02 - 11:19 PM
michaelr 02 May 02 - 12:06 AM
Troll 02 May 02 - 12:56 AM
michaelr 02 May 02 - 02:01 AM
Devilmaster 02 May 02 - 02:09 AM
michaelr 02 May 02 - 02:46 AM
MMario 02 May 02 - 08:42 AM
GUEST,Truthtroller 02 May 02 - 09:34 AM
Pseudolus 02 May 02 - 11:44 AM
Little Hawk 02 May 02 - 12:53 PM
Pseudolus 02 May 02 - 12:56 PM
catspaw49 02 May 02 - 02:37 PM
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Amos 02 May 02 - 06:41 PM
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Subject: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 May 02 - 11:20 AM

To expedite the trolling and flaming here on the Mudcat Forum, we ask that you fill out the following before posting. This will help us know that you are active and wish to be noticed so we can proceed to stumble all over ourselves trying to explain things that aren't worth discussing to begin with.

PLEASE COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING BEFORE TROLLING OR FLAMING

Today I will be posting as:
___Member
___Guest, with name
___Guest, without name
___Member who has logged out, now an unnamed Guest

My mood today is:
___Just playful
___Cynical
___Seriously pissed off
___Just my normal asshole self

I will be posting to:
___Existing threads
___New thread(s) which I will start
___Forgotten threads which I will drag up
___All of the above

I will be attacking:
___A single person
___A group of people
___Randomly to see who bites
___All of the above

After posting I will:
___Leave the thread alone and sit back and watch the action
___Continue posting countering all arguments with half-assed logic
___Attack the person who seems the most excitable
___All of the above depending on the thread

I will be Trolling/Flaming in the following category:
___Northern Ireland
___Middle East
___Gun Control
___General Bigotry and/or Racism
___Mudcat Clique/Inner Circle
___Religion, please list denomination or sect here____________
___Mudcat shortcomings
___DT shortcomings
___Treatment of Guests
___American bashing
___Any other jingoistic bashing, please specify _____________
___Mudcat is falling apart/Max is an asshole
___Individual member attack, please list member(s)________________
___Just freelancing, potential subject__________________
___All of the above

Thank you for your time in filling out this questionaire. We hope you have an unsatisfying experience and drop dead soon.

Spaw---Prolific American Charter Member of the Mudcat Clique and Prostetnic Director of the Gang of 12


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,Chip A.
Date: 01 May 02 - 11:24 AM

Lovely, Thanks


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST
Date: 01 May 02 - 11:26 AM

Sure, and this will fix the problem right quick.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST
Date: 01 May 02 - 11:28 AM

Thank you, I will certainly use it the next time I troll.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST
Date: 01 May 02 - 11:46 AM

Question is, will a troll thread, creating a specific troll questionnaire, created by one of the master trolls of the group, be taken seriously by the True Trolls of Mudcat (tm)?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 May 02 - 11:59 AM

Well I certainly would hope so!!!! We need this information to determine the how, who, and why, responses. You will have a much more satisfying trolling experience if we can focus in on your real needs for a particular day.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST
Date: 01 May 02 - 12:01 PM

OK, now that you've done the clever work, where will we be able to access the results, Spaw?

BTW, I think you missed an item. Shouldn't Mudcat censorship be on that list of categories somewhere?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 02 - 12:02 PM

ROTLMAO! Ya got a few strokes left in ya yet, Spaw!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Big Mick
Date: 01 May 02 - 12:15 PM

As another Charter member of the Inner Clique and Gang of 12, but more importantly, as the Keeper of the Sacred Fertility Rite, and most importantly, as a full Partner in the firm of Patterson, Fielding, Swan, and Lane, Layabouts at Large and for hire, I need to ask a question of you, Bro. Where the hell are the references to sex, and the requisite plug for the firm?

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 May 02 - 12:23 PM

Mick, I really hated to include anything along those lines as it might dissuade some from using the form. You know, they'd feel like they were giving up too much just to post here and that "The Firm" would use that information to raid their bank accounts and access the records of their Shrinks to expose them as the "Two-Bit, Dickless Wonders" that they are.

No, I think it's better to just get the basics here...........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,Betty
Date: 01 May 02 - 12:24 PM

Well, you certainly have time on your hands and you forgot to mention anything about PMS! Chauvinist Pig! Sexist Troll! etc. etc. etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST
Date: 01 May 02 - 12:27 PM

Oh he isn't sexist Betty. He just sees the world divided into those with dicks and balls (the good folk) and those without them. Women don't count in the equation a'tall.

Not sure if that is sexist? Well, ask Spaw, I'm sure he can give the definitive expletive for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,Betty
Date: 01 May 02 - 12:33 PM

What a great screaming wanker!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 01 May 02 - 12:59 PM

Great list, Spaw! In case there are any trolls out there who haven't tried all these techniques yet, it should spur them to new creativity. (Well, activity anyway.)

We also need a questionnaire for people who think they ought to respond to trolls, so the trolls can more easily recognize them.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 May 02 - 01:10 PM

That's a good idea Jim. We seem to be going through our cyclical period of high troll activity at the moment and it's hard to keep up. Maybe the list will help. I can see already that modifications are needed as I have offended several thoughtful trolls for which I wish to apologize. Or maybe I should grab a ham and cheese on rye....with a good mustard.........and a pickle..........maybe some chips too..............and a beer.   Tough decision.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: DougR
Date: 01 May 02 - 01:17 PM

I wonder if Kendall REALLY likes Llamas?

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 02 - 01:20 PM

LOL! ROTFLH! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Best laugh I've had today. Let's see now...hmmm...

I'm gonna log off and post as...GUEST, with name (Igwig the Iguana). My mood today is...just playful. I will be posting to...this thread. I will be attacking...my lunch. After posting I will...sit back and watch the action. I will be trolling in the following category...discrimination against lizards.

Be right back!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,Igwig the Iguana
Date: 01 May 02 - 01:24 PM

Well, I do hope that this will in some way serve to lessen the rampant discrimination against lizards that has been displayed by both members AND guests on this despicable forum! Lizards have ears too, you know, and we don't like what we're hearing.

Igwig


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 01 May 02 - 01:24 PM

Score AT LEAST one for Catspaw with this!

It certainly seemed to 'push the buttons' of Troll - 12:27 PM

Not sure how we get to the others of the same ilk who posted earlier in the thread though....tell their Parents? (if only we (& if THEY) knew who both their parents were....)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 01 May 02 - 01:26 PM

Ooops...sorry for the double post...my Browser had something of a Conniption fit there....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 May 02 - 01:31 PM

On the subject of trolls, flamers, and that small percentage of guests who are here, not to participate, but to fulfill their pitiful emotional needs by trying to stir up trouble:—

Wasps can be a real pain in the neck when you go on a picnic. The fried chicken and potato salad come out and suddenly the wasps appear, buzzing around your mouth, trying to attack your chicken leg, and generally being so annoying that you almost wish you'd stayed home. They're very maneuverable and oblivious to your efforts to swat them or wave them off. Wasps rarely deter people from going on picnics, but they can certainly reduce one's enjoyment because of their primitive needs, aggressive behavior, and insectile persistence.

There is a way to increase your chances of enjoying your next picnic with minimal interference from wasps. Take a standard slop-bucket or other open container, put about two or three inches of water in the bottom, and add a couple of squirts of detergent to the water. Set the bucket under a tree or large bush a good distance away from where you're having the picnic—but not too far. Twenty or twenty-five feet, maybe. Then, take a piece of rotten meat, preferably the most disgustingly smelly piece of rotten fish you can find. With a piece of string, hang the rotten fish from a branch of the bush or tree so that it is well below the rim of the bucket and just a couple inches above the water.

The wasps, who are cruising the area anyway, smell the rotten fish (far more pungent than your fried chicken) and head for it. Some wasps fight each other for the fish. Many of them gorge on the fish to the point where they become so heavy they can't rise above the rim of the bucket, and they drop into the water. The detergent breaks the surface tension of the water and the wasps sink to the bottom. This won't get rid of them all, but it will divert their attention from your picnic, and reduce their number.

Whenever we try to have a picnic, we need to give the wasps somewhere to go and play. Considering the number of wasps who immediately pounced on this thread, I believe 'Spaw has made a very good effort here.

(I hope I'm not giving away the secret.)

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,Igwig the Iguana
Date: 01 May 02 - 01:32 PM

BLOODY HELL!!! That perverse swine, Little Hawk, is pretending to be me, and there is nothing I can do to stop him. Here I am, still trapped with the dipso madwoman, and I have to put up with this sort of bollocks besides! It seems that the only route left for me is to bloody well log off permanently, or else swallow my reptilian pride and join this demented forum of geriatric folkies and lizard-haters under a permanent member name.

AAAERRGHHH! What to do, what to do...

It's not bloody well easy being green.

Igwig


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,the one and only true Igwig the Iguana
Date: 01 May 02 - 01:46 PM

Listen you little Kermit wanna-be! I've had it with your pre-emption of my identity. I am the ONLY Igwig! Me!

And as Iguana are the supreme form of lizard-life, and lizards are superior to all other life forms - you can just take your muppet amphibian self and kiss my cloaca!

Igwig


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 01 May 02 - 02:16 PM

Don Firth: You ARE giving away a secret—one of many—but don't worry. As the Sufis say, "The Secret protects itself." Those who could cause some damage if they understood it, won't understand it anyway, any more than the wasps do.

A somewhat famous (but controversial) thinker once said (and this is a paraphrase; please forgive me for not looking up the quote right now):

"My admirers and my detractors equally bore me. Whenever I can, I introduce them to each other and let them fight it out. That's the only way I can get them to leave me alone."

Only the very egoless can consistently take this position, but I recommend it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,Betty the Wasp
Date: 01 May 02 - 02:42 PM

So, Don, you are the bugger who has been spoiling our lively hood! What do you think you are doing? We wasps have the right to the outdoors. If you don't like it, stay inside!

And, Igwig - if you do not stop eatting our brotherhood, we will get you and it won't be pretty!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Pseudolus
Date: 01 May 02 - 02:49 PM

I think the real question to be answered at the end of the questionaire is, "How much Truth could a True Troll Troll if a True Troll could Troll Truth?"

I even had trouble TYPING that.....LOL!!!!

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,Betty the Wasp
Date: 01 May 02 - 03:03 PM

At least you can type. We wasps have to hire someone to type for us. Your problem is that you just can't be nice to wasps because of some unforgettable little sting you may have gotten when you were a child. Well, you deserved it. Playing --Buzz buzz - around where you shouldn't --buzz buzz - have been. Buzz buzz buzz buzz...buzz ..buzz ...buzz ...........bz ......b .........


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Thonolan
Date: 01 May 02 - 03:24 PM

catspaw49,

thank you, that's the best laugh I've had in quite some time...funny stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 01 May 02 - 03:28 PM

*LOL* Frank/Pseudolus

...& Betty....& Iggy........*G*


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 01 May 02 - 04:49 PM

Thanks, Spaw and ItI. How very erudite. I hadn't realised that lizards have ears - I thought it was just corn.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 May 02 - 04:51 PM

In Morocco, where they drink mint tea, the wasps get a glass full of the sugary mint leaves from tea, stuck at the end of the table and it seems to keep them happy enough and out of the way. I think this thread is more like that. It'll pull in trolls that like sweet stuff, but the nasty ones won't hang around.

Something I've just discovered, though it's obvious enough - if you click on GUEST at the start of a post, it treats it like any other name, and the screen come eventually with all the GUEST posts. (Mind, there's so many of them you have to push the STOP button, and the more recent ones will come up).

And if any unnamed GUEST ever wants to check out why there is sometimes a certain coolness towards the practice, an evening spent going through some of those back posts might be enlightening. Even enjoyable if that's the kind of stuff you like.

You can do it with the GUESTs with labels attached too of course, which is much more interesting.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 May 02 - 05:03 PM

buzzzz

buzzzz

buzzzz

buzzzz

buzzzz

SWAT!!!

Oh, yuck!!


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Subject: How best to flame?
From: GUEST,Uncookied Member
Date: 01 May 02 - 05:05 PM

As a member who flames, I've found 'Spaw's suggestion and 'tick box' approach very useful.

I am however unsure as to how I should implement it.

Am I to append every flame thread that I create with my reasons for starting said thread, or should I post my reasons in the initial thread?

My experience suggests that the top three ways to get a 'result' are to:

1. Suggest that Americans are really stupid

2. Suggest that Americans are really stupid

3. Suggest that Americans are really stupid


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 02 - 05:12 PM

PEACE

If we have no peace,
it is because we have forgotten that
we belong to each other.

Mother Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 01 May 02 - 06:28 PM

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Snooooozzin again.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: John Routledge
Date: 01 May 02 - 06:33 PM

I opened this thread with some trepidation!!

Restored my faith :0) Great Stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Bill D
Date: 01 May 02 - 07:23 PM

....ya' miss a few days, and whadda ya' find?.....

BS, MS and PhD....some funny, some stupid (some will get the reference to the OLD joke)

..as my daddy used to say, "It's the same...only different"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 May 02 - 08:04 PM

Well "fat" would probably be more effective than "stupid" for Americans.

For the English Catters being rude about Martin Carthy might do it.

For the Canadians I suppose it might be assuming they are (US)Americans.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Bert
Date: 01 May 02 - 08:18 PM

Well Igwig, it just depends what kind of lizard you are. If you are an Agama or a Monitor or even (heaven forbid) a Skink, then you'll be accepted here for what you are. But if you are one of those stupid, ugly, mean spirited, heathen Iguanas then you can piss of to www.iguana.folk.org.

And Don a much better way to treat wasps is to ignore them. They are normally quite tame, you can hand feed them, with a drop of jam on your finger, or beer if you can spare it. Kinda like flamers really.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Rolfyboy6
Date: 01 May 02 - 08:19 PM

Spaw, what about those of us in the outer clique? Are we to be left out? I can still remember the thrill of my first flame and the way the flamer lay there dead like an armadillo on the information superhighway.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 02 - 11:10 PM

LOL!!! What a wonderful thread this is.

Bert - Hand-feeding wasps??? Yikes! What nerve you must have. I believe you, but...I am not eager to join you in that practice.

You have grievously insulted poor Igwig, and I expect you will receive a vitriolic response when he logs back on (I understand that he sneaks in use of the computer when his mistress is blotto, and flaked out on the sofa or some other handy surface like that...)

I like Spaw's Trolling and Flaming instructions so well that I am going to laminate and frame them. Absolutely brilliant! I am still laughing every time I read them.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Troll
Date: 01 May 02 - 11:19 PM

Why's ev'erbody always pickin' on ME?

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: michaelr
Date: 02 May 02 - 12:06 AM

What a waste of time.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Troll
Date: 02 May 02 - 12:56 AM

Yes. And you sat and read the whole thing.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: michaelr
Date: 02 May 02 - 02:01 AM

I don't respond to trolls.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Devilmaster
Date: 02 May 02 - 02:09 AM

sounds like you are to me! :)

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: michaelr
Date: 02 May 02 - 02:46 AM

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: MMario
Date: 02 May 02 - 08:42 AM

poor troll - but we know you aren't a "Troll" in the internet sense - and besides- you always identify yourself!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,Truthtroller
Date: 02 May 02 - 09:34 AM

Are you lonely Spaw, is that it??

Are you worried someone else might want to be Queen Bee. No need to . You have all these other sad people buzzing around after you.

T.T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Pseudolus
Date: 02 May 02 - 11:44 AM

Sounds like a song opportunity......I felt the need to make this a music thread....*BG*

Are you lonesome Catspaw, Are you lonesome Catspaw
Are you sorry, you posted away
Do your wrists fill with pain, bashing flamers again
While we wait for the next thing you say.......

Are the keys on your keyboard, all faded and grey
Does the Inner Clique care about what Trollers say

Does your heart fill with pain, when they flame you again
Tell me Spaw are you lonesome tonight.......

Frank

P.S. Just kidding about that Inner Clique thing, although rumor has it I am #125324 on the waiting list to get in!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 May 02 - 12:53 PM

I believe...We Have Shatnerization!!!

Name me the movie in which a man repeatedly says: "Good-O!!! Snorkers!"

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Pseudolus
Date: 02 May 02 - 12:56 PM

Did I Shatnerize?!?!?!? Oh no, tell me it isn't so!!!!!

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 May 02 - 02:37 PM

Truthtroller you messed up again! Look, how can I be suitably chastized and shamed if you don't fill out the form? I'm confused if you were flaming or not! I am of course a honcho/Queen Bee here and I do have some who agree with me which pleases me, so as your name suggests, you have imparted a truth, but where's the flame? Or was it a flame? See, if you'd just let us all know ahead of time we could give you a more satisfying response. As it is, you simply spoke the truth which I have no problem with. Fill out the form and try again.

Nice song there Frank......Now if you can come up with the initiation fee and send it to harpgirl, I think we can process your application and get your Inner Clique Membership Card and Secret Decoder Ring in the mail right away! One thing on the Decoder Ring.......The firm of Fielding, Lane, Patterson......Layabouts-At-Large, have been working on the code for a long time now. The problem is that we can never get through a meeting without one or more of us nodding off and indeed we can't even all get together for a meeting! Just hold onto the ring though as I know we'll come up with something....sometime....maybe. Until then, feel free to do as the rest of the Inner Clique does and just blurt out whatever's on your mind.

Spaw

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 May 02 - 02:54 PM

Geez, just to prove what a layabout I really am, I didn't bother to proofread and left out one of the firm in the process......That's Fielding, Lane, Patterson, and Swan.

Wake me up if anything interesting happens...........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 02 - 06:41 PM

Spaw:

"Wake me up if anything interestinghappens" is kinda self contradictory in your case, doncha think?

LOL!!

Love ya, and your effing form, too!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,Truthtroller
Date: 02 May 02 - 07:27 PM

Spaw, If you want to be Queen Bee go ahead. In the big picture does it really matter. A Queen Bee in a folk music post forum!!!!!! You see it comes back down to what I said at first................you're sad and lonely. Still that's the Gemimni for you, sad lonely insincere. If you had more depth I could be bothered. Now,where did I put those yawn pills?

T.T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 May 02 - 08:34 PM

I'd say that last one was:
Guest, with name
Cynical
Using an existing thread
Attacking a single person
Trolling/Flaming in the category Mudcat Clique


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 May 02 - 08:39 PM

Send me some too. You say it's hell being sad and lonely (and I didn't even know I was) and if the pills have helped you over it (they have helped you I assume?), maybe I could give them a try. And I want you to know that I am being wholly sincere here when I say that you have helped me see myself in a new light. You have illuminated my plight of being a big fish (or Bee as it were) in a little pond.....or even worse, a tiny and virtually stagnant little pool. It's not much of a position is it?....**sigh**......Also I should apologize here for agreeing with you as this puts you in an even lesser position, kinda' like pond scum I guess. Sorry. I hope you too can adjust to this and both of us can move forward to greater understanding. I am forever in your debt.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 02 - 08:41 PM

Now, Spaw, if yer gonna be in a little pool, choose some other incarnation -- those Queen Bees just get in all kinds of trouble when they tiptoe through the pond scum!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 May 02 - 09:17 PM

This reminds me of the people Bob Dylan used to write about (in the mid-60's) who felt compelled to talk to other people about how much they didn't need Bob Dylan. "I don't need Bob Dylan one bit!" they would say. "In fact if he was here right now, I'd tell him just HOW MUCH I don't need him!" The trouble was, that after awhile they began to hate themselves for needing to talk so much to other people about how much they didn't need Bob Dylan, and then they started blaming Bob Dylan for it...and it sort of became a vicious circle.

The same thing has been know to happen regarding William Shatner...and now Spaw.

What does this mean? Has Spaw hit the Big Time???

Let's see who can outyawn who around here, and then cook up some kind of award for it...like a T-shirt saying: "I'm so bored I could just roll over and die."

We could also have a loneliness contest. "I'm lonelier than you are." "Oh, no-o-o-o you're not!" "Am too!" "Betcher not!" "Well, look, I am, okay? I'm as lonely as a rooster in a pen full of rabbits." "Yeah, well, that's nothing! I'm lonelier than a rooster on a desert island with a TV that doesn't work, and no electricity either..."

Whaddya think, Spaw? Who's lonelier? You...or me? Who is THE CHAMP???

The really disturbing thing about all this is that if the world turns on its side, giant tidal waves wipe out the coastal regions, and planetwide earthquakes destroy civilization as we know it...then the Mudcat will cease to exist...and...and...we won't be Queen Bees or Big Fish in this little pond any longer, and GUEST, Truthtroller won't even have the satisfaction of rubbing it in because...the Internet will be down!

This is the sort of thing that makes Inner Clique people toss and turn at night. I don't mind saying that it's put me off my granola bars I'm so worried about it...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 May 02 - 09:32 PM

My gawd Hawk....This is terrible! Not you too? Say it ain't so! I have a feeling Amos might be lonely too......and what about Pseudolus? This thing could be an epidemic.........Before we have any contests though, I think we need to contact the Center for Diseaese Control in Atlanta and let them know about this. This could present a serious health risk ya' know?

First thing tomorrow I'm going to get on the phone and make a couple dozen calls and let people know I'm sad and lonely. You oughta' do the same. Then the CDC can contact all of them and see if they too are sad and lonely and that will help them analyze the extent of this possible epidemic.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 May 02 - 09:46 PM

But I NEED Spaw..........dont' take him away from me, pleeeeeeeze!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 May 02 - 09:47 PM

Good idea, Spaw. I think Amos is definitely lonely. His posts are just reeking with loneliness. I feel much better now, knowing that even though I am...lonely...I am not...alone. (If ya know what I mean.) There's strength in numbers. And in not washing. But that's different, eh?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: khandu
Date: 02 May 02 - 10:03 PM

I LOVE this place!!

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 02 - 10:16 PM

Ya know LH, there might be a link between them, if we could only stretch our imaginations!! Wouldn't it be amazing if science some day shifted paradigns dramatically and uncovered the hidden connection between loneliness and not washing???

As for my posts, they are dripping with exclamation pouints. That isn't loneliness. Just because I raise my voice, doesn't mean I'm lonely!!!! See????!!!! And I have NO idea who scrawled my phone number in the Girl's Room at that truck stop in Transylvania. I bet it was Spaw, trying to mke me look lonely....

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Gareth
Date: 03 May 02 - 04:15 AM

LH - What this has to do with Flamers, I do not know, but the Film was "The Cruel Sea" - A story of the Battle of the Atlantic.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST
Date: 03 May 02 - 08:30 AM

If Mudcatters could step back a bit and look objectively at this thread, they would see that many of the great Mudcat member trollers and flamers are (the only) posters contributing to this hilarious thread.

Coincidence?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Pseudolus
Date: 03 May 02 - 09:38 AM

I just realized, did someone call Spaw a Queen?!?!?!? Really?!?!?! OK, a princess maybe but a Queen? I think not.......

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 May 02 - 11:25 AM

It is no coincidence when a group of people with a demented sense of humour join forces...it's a conspiracy! GUEST is definitely on to something. Those folk enthusiasts totally lacking in a sense of humour, who are busy cataloguing the 350 different lyrical variations of "House Carpenter" are, of course, far too serious to waste their time on this sort of nonsense...and they will not be seen here, unless they drop in once to complain bitterly that this is a "Folk & Blues" forum...which it certainly is, and which is why I joined it in the first place. If it had been a hockey forum or a stock market forum, you would not see me here.

Gareth - Well done! You have been inducted into the Order of the Golden Iguana for having correctly identified the scene as being from the movie "The Cruel Sea", and will shortly be receiving a small statue of Igwig the Iguana, rampant on a marble plaque.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: harpgirl
Date: 03 May 02 - 12:00 PM

...why haven't any of you bozos contributed to my thread on versions of "Queen Bee"? I'm very disappointed in the gang of twelve and the gargoyle....Oh perhaps it is because I was too much of a wimp to get back on board...hmmmmm...money where your mouth is harpgirl....harpgirl


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: khandu
Date: 03 May 02 - 09:04 PM

Actually, methinks Spaw is more of a "quean" than a "queen". But that is just MHO!

"Me am, therefore, me thinks!"

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 May 02 - 09:10 PM

Uh-oh.........Now I'm in trouble.........and with the Chaiman of the Fiery Cross Committee..............Somebody get me a wizard swatter....

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Amos
Date: 03 May 02 - 09:35 PM

Just offer to play "Oh, Death" on the dulcimer, man -- they'll hire you up instanter as an auxiliary rider, and give you a bedsheet to call your own to boot!! LOL! And tape it for the Mudcat Sampler CD, you slug!!! :>)

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Big Mick
Date: 03 May 02 - 10:35 PM

Spaw, whatever you do, don't call them a slug. You think you have them categorized correctly and right away that damn McGrath links you up to the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Slugs. Now you are labelled a Queen Bee. I always thought you to be a Heterosexual Layabout Bee. I can't refer to them as slugs because on the Slug site, the slugs have names. I couldn't find one named GUEST. I guess we just have to stay with the pond scum. I don't know..........I'm headed for the hill. Get back to me on this, willya???

And how do you like your corporate designer wear??

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 May 02 - 11:08 PM

Yeah Mick I saw your problem with the "Slug" but I still felt as though you did The Firm proud!

And there is of course that Mick.......something which no Guest has .........Corporate Designer Sportswear! Christ I busted a gut laughing! And it's for all seasons too.........I wrote to Alice and expressed additional thanks, now if I can just get ahold of El Swanno. Rick also received his and we need to send in pics of all of us (suitably attired) to Jeff and let him put up a "Special" in the photo section (I'll do a script for the captions). I think the fact that the stuff is so "professional" looking just makes it perfect. If you don't read it closely you'd assume it's from a law firm or some ad/insurance company or something...........Ain't it great to have completely crazed friends?

For those of you who wonder what that was about, all will be revealed soon and you too will laugh your ass off!!!!! And you Pond Scum/Slug types will be overjoyed to see the real workings if the "Inner Clique." This will give y'all something to piss and moan about for years, so why not avoid the rush and have that coke and a smile and fuck-off now?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 May 02 - 11:26 PM

This really should be made a Perma-thread, IMO.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: artbrooks
Date: 05 May 02 - 09:53 AM

LH, just as a matter of curiosity, is ALL of Igwig rampant on that statue, or just one special part? You may be on to something for a Mudcat fund raiser!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 May 02 - 01:58 PM

Well, hopefully...Igwig is a handsome beast, no doubt of that.

- LH


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Subject: verse and worse
From: GUEST,gary
Date: 09 May 02 - 05:51 PM

whoever is fortunate enough to try this site, enjoy your reward.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Hilary
Date: 09 May 02 - 06:46 PM

'Spaw, you're a wicked, wicked man. ROFL


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 May 02 - 09:32 PM

Yes, and he's perverse too...but not quite perverse enough to fully appreciate the artistic preeminance of either Tony Clifton or William Shatner.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 May 02 - 09:47 PM

Tony Clifton was a figment of the imagination and it's a shame that Shatner isn't..........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 May 02 - 11:45 AM

Gee, there are FOUR birthday threads going today. With so many Mudcatters hanging around, we could even have more!
What an interesting thing for a music forum to talk about!
I wonder if these people ever figured out how to use personal messages.
Mutter, mutter...
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 10 May 02 - 12:15 PM

Joe, maybe its been suggested before, but what about a Birthday Permathread?

I seldom post to Birthday threads unless I have some kind of 'acquaintance' with the celebrant, just cos I'd feel a little 'insincere' otherwise (& thats just me - I dont doubt the sincerity of anyone who posts to them!)

But a 'running thread' I'd feel less awkward about (& though people might be suprised (*G*) to hear me say it, I dont post to threads unless I feel its a 'contribution' to it)

What do others think? It would be less BS 'clutter' for those who view Birthday threads that way...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Mr Happy
Date: 10 May 02 - 12:27 PM

i've seen the term 'shatnerisation' on a number of threads lately and don't know what it meamns

is it about captain kirk?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 10 May 02 - 12:27 PM

This is too funny Spaw. About time we imposed some kind of order on the trolls!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,Centaur
Date: 10 May 02 - 12:32 PM

Lonesome EJ, isn't it about time you stopped automatically praising everything that Catspew says, as if he's Johnny Carson and you are Ed Mcmahon? Does this gain you some sort of approval in the eyes of the other pathetic denizens of this supposed "folk and blues site"? Pah.

YOU are the one who needs to be pilloried, you Mickey Spillane wannabe!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 10 May 02 - 12:35 PM

Ah, BITE ME, Guest Centaur!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,Centaur
Date: 10 May 02 - 12:36 PM

Ok. You asked for it....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 10 May 02 - 12:39 PM

OUCH!!

Hey, damn it! That hurts! Now I won't be able to sit down the rest of the day.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 May 02 - 01:35 PM

Say Centaur, if I suggest that you "Kiss My Ass" can I expect the same service? If so, you oughta' join. You could be a real asset around here................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Pseudolus
Date: 10 May 02 - 01:41 PM

Would the phrase then be, "Kiss my Assets?" WAIT, does that make me a pathetic denizen?!?!?!?!? Damn.....or should I say, "You are correct sir!!!" Hard to do an Ed McMahon impression in print...*BG*

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 10 May 02 - 01:55 PM

Ha ha ha ha!!! That was a good one Spaw. And now a word from our good friends at ALPO!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: GUEST,president,ALPO
Date: 10 May 02 - 02:19 PM

Greetings, fellow net-citizens of the world

We here at the Alienated League of Perverted Octogenarians would like to welcome all of you prosp[ective members. As we have decided to accept grant funding from the government of the United States it has been pointed out that we can no longer limit our membership to the Perverted nor to those who have reached the mature age of Eighty. therefore we would like to offer to each and every one of you this chance to join ALPO now.

That's right, no more waiting until your morals vanish; no more waiting for the dreary years to pass. For only sixty nine (69) payments of $ 69.69 you too can have immediate entry into ALPO with all the rights and priviliges thereof.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 May 02 - 04:45 AM

I wish to express my sincerest wishes of birthday greetings to all of those who suffer birthdays in 2002.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Snuffy
Date: 11 May 02 - 04:49 AM

Hey Joe, what about those of us who don't have birthdays? Don't leave us out - that's discriminatory :->


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: MudWeasel
Date: 11 May 02 - 05:35 AM

You folks are a twisted lot. I mean that in the best of possible ways, but it's true.
I can only assume that the coolness and Mudcat prestige that is to be gained by agreeing with everything Spaw says is a sort of a cumulative deal, like the charity "donor levels" you see with some non-profits. I suggest the following fee-scale:

Li'l Helper- $5 or less, plus a muted "yeah" whenever Spaw Posts. At the Li'l helper level you get a bumper sticker (blank) and a thank you letter from Cleigh.

Coot Booster- $5-$50, plus an emphatic Amen whenever you see a post from Spaw. At this level you get a year's subscription to Loneliness Weekly and a federally endorsed personal hyegine exemption.

Drone Bee- $50-$500, plus you must actively seek out Spaw's posts in order to write long-winded essays about why Spaw is always right (Unless he's still insisting we should kick Max in the Balls. This level of donation offers a year's stay at the NYCFTTS, and free classes at the Shatner School, as well as Possum-Ass-Blowing Priveleges.

There used to be a "Queen Bee" level of donation, but I've just been informed that nobody qualifies except Spaw himself. If you're interested in contesting the title, please post photos of yourself, in drag, wearing a black and yellow striped body-stocking.

Please send check or money order to the MudWeasel Savings & Loan, in Moss Beach, CA. Large wads of cash also gleefully accepted.

-MW


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: MudWeasel
Date: 11 May 02 - 05:37 AM

Yech. I screwed up my italics html. Serve me right for attempting wry wit at 2:30 in the AM.

-MW


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Subject: RE: BS: The Great TROLL/FLAME Thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 02 - 01:07 PM

Happiness - I and the Board of Governors of the WSSBA (William Shatner School of BAAAD Acting) came up with the term "Shatnerization". It is defined as follows:

"WE HAVE SHATNERIZATION" This expression is to be used whenever something unutterably stupid, vapid, pointless, silly, banal, tasteless, tacky, valueless or downright grotesque has occurred or has been said or done by someone...

It could be something political, it could be a piece of music, it could be a post on the Mudcat, it could be Spaw's latest revelation concerning the state of his underwear...it could be almost anything.

If it qualifies, then simply say: We Have Shatnerization!!!

This will save you from wearing your fingers out typing long, long rebuttals, analyses, and diatribes that just repeat stuff you've already said before anyway.

- LH


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