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Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow

Bobert 28 Jun 02 - 06:53 PM
GUEST 28 Jun 02 - 07:02 PM
Bobert 28 Jun 02 - 07:19 PM
wysiwyg 28 Jun 02 - 07:58 PM
Mr Red 28 Jun 02 - 08:29 PM
Charcloth 28 Jun 02 - 11:25 PM
katlaughing 28 Jun 02 - 11:36 PM
Les Jones 29 Jun 02 - 03:43 AM
Bobert 29 Jun 02 - 08:26 AM
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Tweed 30 Jun 02 - 06:48 PM
Bobert 30 Jun 02 - 07:56 PM
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Subject: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 06:53 PM

Well, danged. Two weeks until Blues Week and, yep, a touch of "picker's elbow" (tennis elbow). Sharp pain in the long muscle that gets pulled just below the elbow with finger pickin'. I had it about 10 or 13 years ago and ended up taling cortizone shots fir it. Took 6 months to go away. Anyone got any quicker cures? (I realize that I have just painted a big ol' target on my boney hillbilly butt by asking, but please don't shoot, Spawzer) It really does hurt.

See, SharonA, ya done pushed the bobert too hard with the turkey scrapple on a stick trick...

HELP!

Bobert


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 07:02 PM

  • Rest helps, with avoidance of the activities which over use the elbow.
  • Physiotherapy treatments, which may include heat or ultrasound therapy
  • Use of anti inflammatory drugs and ordinary pain killers (analgesics).
  • A doctor may suggest an injection of a small dose of steroid to the affected area. This is not the sort of steroid banned for athletes. If used it can last for up to three months, and although it may need to be repeated you seldom need more than two or possibly three injections.
  • You can buy a brace from a sports shop or pharmaceutical supplier, which can be helpful. This is probably largely because it reduces the amount you can use your elbow.

In other words, there is no 'quick cure'

Quite why people keep coming to Mudcat for medical advice is both beyond me and, a little worrying..


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 07:19 PM

The price is right!

Thanks fir the advice. Unfortunately, I already know that stuff having suffered from this before. I was hopin' they had found a miracle cure since then... Danged...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 07:58 PM

Numerous old threads loaded with help on pickers' inflammatory situations which are generally, basically, tendonitis of this or that part. Try filter searches on Carpal Tunnel and you will probably find stuff plus links to more.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Mr Red
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 08:29 PM

When I played badminton I used a tennis elbow brace. It grips the tendons and prevents one getting all the stretch. They recommend max 15 mins before releasing the pressure and letting the blood flow, not that I listened. It helped short term. Long term was probably avoiding rest, playing through it (as per advice from an England/International coach.
Not sure how it translates to banjo bashing though. Maybe it also depends on which tendons and if they are stretched or detached or it is the sheath they slide in.
What is yer day job/hobby? If it is a gripping sorta thing (spanners lump hammers etc) you gotta watch that, I know it was the source of my woes.


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Charcloth
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 11:25 PM

Bobert, get some cold pressed Castor oil, soak a rag in it, wrap the oily rag around your elbow, (cover it up with plastic to keep the oil from getting on everything) & sleep with the castor oil wrap for a few days. You should see a difference within a week.
the massage therapist at the VA hospital swear by this stuff
Charcloth


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 11:36 PM

Here's an old thread...if you read later on it has info on accupuncture which I swear by....computer-induced tennis elbow

Get this stuff...just incredible stuff and do NOT compress, so the chi can flow: "middle bone water".


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Les Jones
Date: 29 Jun 02 - 03:43 AM

Banjo pickers on steriods? This could scare a lot of people.


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Jun 02 - 08:26 AM

Kat: Thanks. I'll check with my ex. She has her black belt and used to teach karate. Plus she's does massauge therapy. She can probably get the stuff. If it's what I'm thinking about it may also be called tiger balm. I'll read the old thread later...

I might try aqupunture if I can't get a handle on it before Blues Week any other way,,

Bobert


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Jun 02 - 09:43 PM

Charcloth: Thanks fir the caster oil idea. I'm going to try that, too.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 01:04 AM

Bobert, it's not tiger balm. I used to live from one tiger balm application to another!*g* It is much, much stronger than...designed to penetrate, even to broken bones. You can order it from that link I put in, but if you can get it there, it'd be faster. If you feel around, you should be able to find the trigger points, too, and massage them as much as possible. Also use natural heat, i.e. a wheat husk pillow or the like, heated NOT too hot, and placed on the sore area for a few minutes at a time. If you put it on after putting tincture on be VERY CAREFUL as the heat can intensify the tincture's properties and burn the skin. It feels really good as long as you are careful. For the first time on over 30 years, I am able to go without pain meds because of this tincture and acupuncture, well worth a try, imo.

Good luck,

kat


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Tweed
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 06:48 PM

Boberdzrz, hif you want ter really get that castor erl to the inside of yew whar hit kin really work it's job, then be sure to drink a half pint of it before yew git on stage up thar at the seminary. Yew shore won't be worried much about yer elbow, an' thet's a fack! I still corntend thet the dead cat swung over yore haid at midnite will dew th job jest as well as ennythin. Mebbe thet's whut Mz.Kat were talkin' about wif dem tiger balls.


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 07:56 PM

Well, thanx a bunch there, Tweezer and first of all it ain't no cemetary that Iz gonna be playin' at. Speakin' of which, I followed yer advice about the dead cat and Iz here to say, ahhhhh, hog wash. All you get is a dead cat and a bunch of guilt fir it.... Iz thinks Iz gonna stick with Kat's idea of the Zheng gu Shui oil and the deep massauge stuff. I had me a feelin' that the dead cat thing weorn't a smart idea an' well the Pudder, well, she thought purrdy much the same as I... Or somthin like that...

Now Iz needs a good story fir the P-Vine about the sudden demise of her favorite cat. Any other smart ideas, Tweezer?

Bobert


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Tweed
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 11:03 PM

Waaall GodDAMMIT...mebbe you oughten'to've kilt the danged FAMBLY'S cat, Boberdzr, fer ChristSake! Whut the hell is wrong with you? They iz got to be sum dead ones out thar on a WestGinny backroad summwheres. I've had some success with dyein' the critters though, an' mebbe we could fix one soze de Peavine don know the differnse, so don't tell her nuffin jest yet. We'll get this perdicament worked into only a minor setback fairly quick. As fer me, I went out an found sum o' thet Tiger Balm at the sundry store jest this afternoon cause it's perty humid down here in South Florida and I been sufferin' from a bad case of jock itch. I figger thet after the Sunday nite baff I'll slather on a good amount on the crotch of sum fresh BVD's and let it work over nite. Ef yew run into Mz.Kat, pleeze tell her thanky fer her good advice in advance fer me.


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: EBarnacle1
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 02:03 PM

It would seem I switched back too quickly for my previous posting to get onto the thread.

Unfortunately, the only real cure is changing your movements. My doctor tried the shots several times to help me with my [occupationally induced] case of tennis elbow. He pointed out that the time between shots was getting shorter and shorter and the discomfort of the shots was getting worse and worse, to the point where it did not pay to get the shots. He reminded me that the elbow is a hinge. If you put stress on it the wrong way, such as backhanding a tennis racquet, you will cause pain and, if you really put too much stress on (which might be very little at the time of injury) you can do yourself a permanent injury. Even after you have learned to move properly, the old gray elbow just won't be what it used to be.


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 03:08 PM

Tweed: Yeah, I I think that Tiger Balm will do ya jus' fine. You be sure to put an extra amount on the more, how you say, sensitive parts. Yep, you jus do zactly that, Tweezer. Heck, if that don't work, Iz got a dead cat I'll send you in the UPS truck. Yeah, I like your idea about the swap. I got a possum that comes around at night, climbs a leeland cyris onto the roof, walks the entire length of the roof and falls off the other end into a big hydranga bush. Ya', I'll grab him, spray paint his butt, teach him to meow and everything will be fine. Man, I forget sometimes just hoe smart a fella you is, Tweezer. How come with all these smartz you ain't got no money but a healthy case of jock itch and is there a connection between the two?

EBarnacle: Well, now that wasn't the answer I was lookin' fir here. Actually, I had it bad about 10 years ago and took shots and it went away. Heck, if I could get another 10 years from a couple of shots, I'd be happy. But since there's only 6 days before I leave for Blues Week, I'm just gonna do the massauge and oil trick.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 03:31 PM

Well, Mz Kat is back and ready to pin yer ears back fer all this talkin' 'bout kilin' fambly cats and all! Wots the mattah wid ya'll? Thems're my kith and kin and that of all Mudcatters and ya'll jist are gonna hafta play-ah nye-ees!

Shot was temporary on my shoulder, hurt like hell to get it. I don't recommend shots at all. Anytime I get sore from doing too much repetitive motion, usually the computer, I dribble on the tincture. BTW, Bobert, it is important to do it several times per day. My acu-guy put a chux pad under my arm, then used an eyedropper to smooth it over the sore area, then laid a gauze pad on there with it soaked. I found the easiest way for me, at home, was to cut the end out of a very loose, old sock, pull it up to the elbow area, then soak it with the tincture. I can even feel the effect of it after it dries, esp. if I apply a little bit of heat.

BE WARNED!! Do not get your hands nor the bottle of this anywhere near your eyes or mouth! Esp. your eyes!! wash your hands thoroughly after applying it.

As for you, Mistah Tweed...if'n yer member kin stand the balmy heat of the tiger, I'd put on a san'witch board, was I you, an' advertise yer stamina all up and down the boardwalk, 'cause wimmin like a feller who kin take a lil' heat, ya ken?

katdefenderofthespecies,felinethatis


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: weepiper
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 06:01 PM

Bobert I hope you're getting this sorted, I'm sworn off the pipes at the moment because I've got tendonitis in my shoulder. It has been three weeks since I've played them at all - the bellows action hurts like billy-o. I don't know if that's what caused it in the first place or if it was my day job (bike mechanic), both things make it hurt. Had a few days off work and a lot of Ibuprofen and it's getting much better, but I miss my pipes... :-( the practice chanter just ain't the same. I shall try this heat rub stuff Kat mentioned, it's got to be worth a go I reckon.


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: Tweed
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 07:48 PM

Shoot Mz.Kat, I guess mebbe I ain't the brightest bulb in the string but I figgered thet enythin with the wird "BALM" tacked on it would be somewhat soothing to a skin irritation of a private nature. I mean, Hellfire, thet stuff called Udder Balm iz reel gude fer dried up hands an callouses and teats an such, but thet TIGER Balm shouldn't be plased in eny such a category. They ain't much soothin' about it at all. Last nite I packed my boys down wif thet stuff an' come up out the bed about five minutes later an' ain't laid back down sinse. God help me! ..scuse me please ma'am, I got to get more ice and try to get this swellin' down summat. I jes pray thet Mz.Tweed don't get to feelin' frisky fer another nite or two.... Boberdz, ef you spray that possum's butt try to use latex instead of lacquer. I wouldn't wish this kinda pain on no other creature......


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Subject: RE: Help: Cures for Picker's Elbow
From: GUEST,life
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 08:14 PM

personaly I swear by tiger balm, but make sure that you get the right one, there is tiger balm white, for those who hve never used it before and tiger balm red, mighty powerful stuff. another remdy that my friend swears by is good old WD40 (no joke!) spry some on the affected area and wrap it with an elbow brace. good luck


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