Not BS - Randy Scouse Git

Subject: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: GUEST,greg stephens
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 08:33 AM

An article in the Guardian claims the Monkees once made a record called "Randy Scouse Git", which was issued in England under the name "Alternate Title". Anybody add anything to this story? Is it true, for example?Lyrics would be welcome, also info as to whether those lovely boys knew the meaning of any or all of the words.

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 09:01 AM

There you go, Greg - Randy Scouse Git (Alternate Title)

Looking at the lyrics and putting 2 and 2 together I guess the 4 kings of EMI were the Beatles? His girlfriend being lost to those Randy Scouse Gits?? If Dolenz did not know the phrase originaly Davy Jones certainly would have, being a Manchester lad through and through. He may well have used the phrase before to describe our illustrious neighbours;-)

Bit of a puzzle why they had to use the Alternate title though as Alf Garnett was describing his son-in-law (Now our prime-ministers father-in-law!) as a scouse git for years on the BBC!

Cheers

Dave the Gnome

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 09:35 AM

And just found this on the Monkees FAQ -

24. Micky's song Randy Scouse Git had to be released in England as
Alternate Title, why?
Well while Micky was in England he heard those words and made them the title of his song. Unfortunately he did not realize that in England this is considered to be an insult. To be more precise: "randy" means horny "scouse" is a derogatory way of referring to a working-class Liverpudlian "git" is an idiot. When asked to provide an alternate title for the song in England he did just that.

Dunno if I believe this answer though. If Micky did hear it in England it could well have been on 'To death do us part' in which case no-one would have objected to the title at the beeb!

Perhaps it was Alternate title because 'Randy Scouse Git' had no significance at all in the states?

What title was actualy used in the States, brother catters?

Cheers

DtG
(A closet Monkees fan)

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: greg stephens
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 09:45 AM

"Idiot" is a bit soft for git. Bastard, in both senses of the word is more accurate I would have thought.

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: Paddy Plastique
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 11:02 AM

The great Alf preceded 'Scouse' with 'lazy' rather than 'randy', as I
remember Dave, didn't he ?? Not much of a puzzle about the re-naming - Britain seems to
have been an even more prudish place in the 60s - they even chopped 2 nights off
'Seven Drunken Nights' for Jasus sake !!!

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: English Jon
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 11:25 AM

Well, I reckon "4 nights drunk" is actually three verses shorter. It's certainly a lot faster, which is a big plus as it means you don't have to listen to it for as long.

"manky" appears to be current adjective of choice when describing mickey mousers.

Cheers, Jon

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 12:17 PM

Manky Mickey Mousers!!! How dare you sirrah! Manky is and always has been the adjective for things Mancunian. I suspect by using the term Mickey Mousers for Scousers you are nothing but a Cockney in exile (Or not as the case may be...) Take the vile insult back at once or be prepared to run the gauntlet of both Manky and Scouse scorn. And have your car stolen and burned out to boot!

There is only ne thing a Manc can't stand more than a Scouse. A bloody southener;-) (Ie anything south of the Manchester Ship Canal)

Yours

Angry from Manchester

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 02:31 PM

DtG

Are you fair dinkum - Anthony Booth is Mrs Blair's daddy?

Who woulda' thunk it!

Allan

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 03:13 PM

Yip Guest - Cherie Blair nee Booth is indeed the daughter of the famous Scouse Git! Alf must be having palpitations to think he is related to the Labour leader. At least it's not that 'arald bloody Wilson...

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 03:58 PM

greg, using BS in the title means that people using the BS filter will not see your thread. (for next time, OK?)

~Susan

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: The Walrus
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 05:33 PM

Dear "Angry from Manchester",

I think that you will find that "manky" as a derogatory adjective is derived from the French "manque" (effectively "gone wrong" - of perhaps a little stronger[1]).

Regards

Soft Southern Ba*d

[1] I can't check that, I seem to have lost my French dictionary

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 05:56 PM

Manky can also be used instead of minging!!

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 07:12 PM

French? F***ing French??

Even worse than Scouse or Cockney!

You have probably lost your French Dick and Harry where it should be.

Up your soft southern ****

No offense intended of course;-)

Angry from Manquechester

Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git
From: Gareth
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 07:27 PM

Hmmm ! Well first of all Harold Wilson represented a Liverpool Parlimentary seat for over 35 years.

Second. "What do you call a Scouser wearing a suit ?"

Answer "The defendant !"

Gareth (who spent too many years wandering around the docks at Liverpool, Birkenhead and all points nearbye searching for missing cargo and counting damages to have any illusions. Mind you the same applies to Thiefrow and Tilbury !!!"