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BS: Bush Dyslexicon

saulgoldie 28 Jan 03 - 02:28 PM
Bobert 28 Jan 03 - 03:01 PM
Ebbie 28 Jan 03 - 03:18 PM
Bill D 28 Jan 03 - 04:25 PM
JennyO 28 Jan 03 - 10:41 PM
dick greenhaus 28 Jan 03 - 11:08 PM
katlaughing 28 Jan 03 - 11:42 PM
BEK 28 Jan 03 - 11:59 PM
katlaughing 29 Jan 03 - 12:01 AM
DougR 29 Jan 03 - 01:44 AM
JennyO 29 Jan 03 - 02:43 AM
Hrothgar 29 Jan 03 - 04:04 AM
Amos 29 Jan 03 - 08:14 AM
DougR 30 Jan 03 - 02:15 PM
Bobert 30 Jan 03 - 02:51 PM
Stewart 30 Jan 03 - 04:38 PM
Amos 30 Jan 03 - 04:47 PM
Felipa 30 Jan 03 - 05:56 PM
Greg F. 30 Jan 03 - 06:29 PM
Amos 30 Jan 03 - 11:51 PM
DougR 31 Jan 03 - 12:25 AM
GUEST,guest 31 Jan 03 - 03:18 AM
Ian 31 Jan 03 - 05:03 AM
Ian 04 Feb 03 - 09:48 AM
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Subject: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: saulgoldie
Date: 28 Jan 03 - 02:28 PM

(...or has this already been posted and I couldn't find it?) I encourage all to read this.

http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/america/canada/121202a.html

repaired your link....Fat Clone)

Truth is that all these polite BS discussions are fun and all. But underlying it are real lives of real people, and the possible end of most what we hold dear, including our species.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Jan 03 - 03:01 PM

I agree whole heartedly with Mark Miller's assessment of Bush. There's also that same element in Donald Rumsfield. Both seem to delight in other folks misery. Both want to punish and both get that little gleam in their eye and smirky smile when they are talking about hurting other people.

I didn't see as much of it in Daddy Bush but he also did have some of these same disorders.

Yeah, we've been un-priveledged in the last 10 days to two of Bush's temper tantrums and like I said on another thread, if I had young children in the home I would not have wanted them to see either of those sociopathic displays.

I am embarassed for my country to have such a mentally imbalanced president in office because, even though he was not elected, it does reflect on the nation as a whole and the folks I know ain't nothin' like Bush. He was lucky to be born rich 'cuase if he had to do it the way most folks do it... like work... he probably would be doing time in some prison.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Jan 03 - 03:18 PM

Yeah. Because of Amos's report I bought the book from Dick Greenhaus at Camsco and couldn't put it down. I'm now debating whether I want to keep it as a reference work or donate it to the library system so more people will read it.

All these years, through all these presidential administrations, I have never bought into the apocalytic view that has surrounded many of them. This time, I'm not so sure.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Jan 03 - 04:25 PM

I watched Bush on the tube yesterday, I started counting words...in NO case did he speak more that 6 words without a pause. The speech writers are doing all that THEY can to feed him scripts that he can cope with. (Saw a tape of Nixon's last State of the Union speech...evil and warped as he was, he could at least talk and think at the same time.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: JennyO
Date: 28 Jan 03 - 10:41 PM

This is scary stuff. I think I'm going to buy the book. And to think that a guy like this holds the fate of so many people in his hands!

And our gutless PM, Little Johnnie Howard is sucking up to him and involving us in Australia in all this too!

Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 28 Jan 03 - 11:08 PM

Bill D=
He has a very short-playing record.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Jan 03 - 11:42 PM

How are we gonna get out of this one...oh lawd...it is so inconceivable and embarassing that he even made it this far.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: BEK
Date: 28 Jan 03 - 11:59 PM

De-lurking for a few words. I'm from Texas and I sure as heck didn't vote for that son of a Bush. The local legend has it that Mom Bush is the one Dubya inherited the spite from. Barbara sadly never lets a slight go. And Dubya is upset that Daddy got gigged about having Saddam where we wanted him and letting him go. Who really knows? I can't help but feel that the US is putting itself in the position of Schoolyard Bully and we all know what happens then.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 12:01 AM

I've always felt that Momma Bush was the power, ambition, and nastiness in the background. Interesting to hear that confirmed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: DougR
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 01:44 AM

Sick, sick, sick.

You guys (and gals) got some positive recommendations about how the Iraq situation, the economy, the environment, Social Security, eduction, or whatever should be handled, or are you all stuck in one gear?

And please, Bobert, no more recommendations that another "conference" be scheduled. We've been down that road since 1991.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: JennyO
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 02:43 AM

What recommendations do you have, DougR?

Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Hrothgar
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 04:04 AM

Reminds me of that dishonest right-wing Queensland premier, Joh Bjelke-Petersen. People laughed at him for talking drivel, but when you studied him, it became obvious that he was a great communicator.

People understood exactly what he meant when he wanted to be understood. When he was in trouble, he used drivel as a distractor.

Stayed in power for 20 years ... not found guilty in a remarkable verdict becaus of the stubbornness of one juror who supported him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:14 AM

Doug:

I saw him on the SoU delivery last night, and I liked it -- he was reading it very well, and it had some really good ideas in it, and he even provided more of his rationale.   And aside from about 50 uses of kewKYUlar, he hardly stumbled. Had some great lines (which I doubt he could ever have dreamed up alone). Yore guy put on a good show.

(Doesn't change my opinions on a lot of points about him, but he gets 'em for a good show).

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: DougR
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 02:15 PM

Amos: He will never be the communicator that Reagan or Clinton were, but I think he is getting better.

JennyO: that's easy. I support the administration.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 02:51 PM

No, Doug, we haven't been down that road. If we had then this all might be easier to take. Bush came into the White House as a *blowhard* and he has never let up.

He had an opportunity to try a humanistic approach when the Saudi's made their proposal but did he? Heck no! He trashed the idea. That was when I first realized that all he wants is to kill Saddam and as many Iraqi's that he can while doing it.

His foriegn policy from day one is "Carry and big stick and whack anyone you feel like." He's a spoiled little rich kid who probably got his butt whopped by a school yard bully when he was a kid and now he's going to take it out on the whole world.

A psychiatrist would have a *field day* with him. He's a couch case!

And now he's even starting to piss off Republican Senators with his tone. In his campaigne he promised to change the tone in Washington. Well, he's met that promise. He has brought it to an all time low.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Stewart
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 04:38 PM

Katlaughing: "How are we gonna get out of this one"

If stupidity got us into this mess... Why can't it get us out?

Anyway, I find the analysis (Bush Dyslexicon) very perceptive.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 04:47 PM

If stupidity got us into this mess... Why can't it get us out?



ROTFLMAO!! That is exactly the policy the Bush administration uses!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Felipa
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 05:56 PM

listening to news tonight, didn't I hear him start to say 'Iran' when he meant 'Iraq'?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Greg F.
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 06:29 PM

We've been down that road since 1991.

Indeed.

WASHINGTON, Jan. 23 (UPI) -- An exasperated President George W. Bush said Tuesday that the request for continued U.N. weapons inspections of Iraq was a repeat of past mistakes and a "rerun of a bad movie," he did not want to see.

Yes, the president is quite correct. Indeed, this is a rerun of a very bad movie that no one really wants to see, either.

We had Gulf War I in 1991, brought to you by George Lucas, err -- correction -- please make that George Bush I, and now, some 12 years later, we bring you the sequel, Gulf War II, compliments of George Bush II.

(Deep voice, with heavy echo:) "George! This is your father speaking. Rebuild the coalition and may the Force -- the multinational force -- be with you. Go after the Evil Axis, George, and destroy the dark empire. Remember, Darth Hussein tried to kill your Daddy"...

The rest HERE


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 11:51 PM

HE made several comments about Iran, and i wasn't in error because he also said Iranians in the same context. I was a little surprised, and wondered if he was doing a little foreshadowing.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: DougR
Date: 31 Jan 03 - 12:25 AM

Greg: thanks for posting that "opinion" piece. It added a lot to the discussion.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 31 Jan 03 - 03:18 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/international/middleeast/31BLIX.html?ex=1044680400&en=0c5b3f921cf4aa2d&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Ian
Date: 31 Jan 03 - 05:03 AM

president bush while visiting a school in his home town was asked by a teacher if he would lead a class in he discussion of the meaning of tragedy. Agreeing, he sat in front of the class and asked if anyone could give an example of a tragedy. A little girl put her hand up. The President asked her to tell him.
"Sir, if a child was crossing the road and a car knocked down and killed them, that would be a tragedy".
"I don't think so" said the President "we would call that an accident". "Is there someone else with an example?"
A boy put his hand up. "Sir I have one".
"If the school bus full of childred ran of the road over a cliff and they were all killed. That would be a tragedy".
The President said "We would call that a great loss".
There was silence in the classroom for a few minutes, the from the back of the room a small voice broke the silence. "Sir if you were flying in Airforce one and a terrorist shot it down with an anti aircraft missile and you were killed. That would be a tragedy.
"Oh yes said the president and can you tell me why we would call that a that a tragedy."
The voice replied, "well Sir, it certainly would not be an accident and it would not be a great loss."


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Ian
Date: 04 Feb 03 - 09:48 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 11:39 PM

I've just begun re-reading this book and new things leap out at me, in fact as early as in the preface.

Miller says:

"Throughout the presidential race, Bush ran hard as the un-Clinton; and while we can't say it won him the election, it was surely key to what success he had. His base supporters were intoxicated- stupefied- by his sly daily hints that he was Clinton's total opposite. They fell completely for his ritual promise to "restore honor and dignity to the White House", notwithstanding his own highly questionable past. That Bush may, in his personal life had some wilder times by far than Clinton ever did, or that Bush's public ethics were immeasureably worse than Clinton's (the former having made out like a bandit as the governor of Texas, while Governor Clinton didn't make a dime beyond his salary), were thoughts that Bush's followers couldn't take in, so fully propagandized had they been."

So. Perhaps it's not that Bush's apologists love Bush, it's that they hate Clinton!

For anyone who is interested, this is a very good, if upsetting read. I got my copy through Dick Greenhaus at Camsco.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dyslexicon
From: DougR
Date: 20 Feb 03 - 01:24 AM

Ebbie: how you could get so titilated by that passage in a book that is obviously written by a Bush hater in which (at least in that paragraph) he states only his personal opinions is beyond me. Others share his opinion no doubt, (including you) but they are just opinions!

DougR


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