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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: fsharpdim7
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 05:51 PM

Natalie is quoted as saying: "Just so you know, we're ashamed
the president of the United States is from Texas."
I am all for those who take a reasonable, or even unreasonable, position for or against the coming war, but I am not for those who do not give respect to those on the other side of the issue.
I believe, given the events of 9/11, that the President's advisors have the best interest of the country at heart and the President is doing the best he can with that advice. I would not want to be President and know I did not do all I could to prevent the next terrorist attack.
Can't those on both sides agree to respect each other's view, and not attack each other? I would hate to see a split in the country as after Viet Nam. I am also sure that Saddam and the others of his ilk would love to see such a split.
Chris


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 05:47 PM

"They came out to a non-US audience and spoke a personal and hateful comment about their president"

Personal?? hateful? They said they wre ashamed of him... What's wrong with that?? I understood that was popular opinion....

"one of the privileges of being an American is you are free to voice your own point of view"

Kinda sums it all up, no?


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Kim C
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 05:37 PM

They might be tired of the Nashville star business, but that's the business that got them where they are. It's sort of funny to me, they started out as a pretty hot cowgirl-bluegrass band years ago, and didn't get any major interest till they started showing skin. And it was partly showing skin that got them rich.

Yes, I know they're talented. I know that as well as anybody. I have the now out of print ORIGINAL Dixie Chicks albums from their Past Life. But they chose the mainstream themselves.

I think it's fine for people to express opinions. I just think they should exercise some manners and good sense when they do it. Maybe they're too young to have been taught that in Texas.


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Willie-O
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 05:27 PM

Hey, they (she) can say anything they want to their audience no matter where they are. What difference does it make what country they're in? Obviously these kind of remarks are going to get picked up by the media and get the predictable outrage from people who disagree with them. If they lose some fans, they are sure as hell gaining some too. I bet they're tired of the Nashville star business anyhow.

Maybe they'll tour with Steve Earle. The Leftist Country Outcasts Tour. I'd go see em in a flash.

Willie-O


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 05:25 PM

Jed -- I'm not American, but I've seen them on TV. And one of the things they are really, really, really proud of is their right to free speech. ;o)


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: JedMarum
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 05:18 PM

When I disagree with my wife on an issue, when she and I have strong differnces of opinion, I do not go to my nighbor's house and tell them that I am ashamed of her. I do not make ugly, hateful commenst about her or call her names in front of other people (or in front of her, for that matter). That would be classless, harmful foolish and damaging to myself and my own case.

The Dixie Chicks didn't come out and speak against the war. They came out to a non-US audience and spoke a personal and hateful comment about their president. THAT displays their stupidity - not expressing their American minority opinion to a European audience.


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Frankham
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 05:10 PM

I think that as Americans they are within their rights to criticize this (p)resident. they did not disparage America but W's actions. Somehow, there are those that feel that W was elected by a landslide and I don't share their views. They commented on the anti-American sentiment that is not only in England but many parts of the world today. They did it with a kind of clarity without calling anyone names. If they are ashamed of the p(resident), I believe they have the right as Americans to say so. W has to know that the war he intends to conduct does not have support of all Americans.

Frank Hamilton


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: wilco
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 05:00 PM

It must be nice to get to the point, finacially, where you can alienate at least half of your fan base. I suspect that it's probably closer to 90% of their fan base. I bet the other members of the trio and their entourage, reord label, etc., all told her to "Shut up, you fool!! You just blew our career!!"


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 04:59 PM

Boy, and here I though The Prez was the main proponent & cheerleader for this insane war! I musta missed something. Kinda tough to criticize one without the other, innit?

Since when is it not o.k. to have a personal opinion??
Since Ashcroft became Atty. Genl. and his Staasi took over.


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Kim C
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 03:53 PM

Larry, I don't think they spoke out against the war. They spoke out against the President. In my mind those are two different things. Your mileage may vary.


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: InOBU
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 03:18 PM

Well Jed:
Frankly any citizen of a free country who endorces the presidency of someone who openly endorces the removal of citizenship for the purpose of deny them their constitutional rights, well, frankly I would not use the term you used, but feel free to fill in your own explitive. Now I also say this in friendship as I don't think you have thought out the implication of your comments. They have spoken out against a war that the majority of the people on the planit oppose and is opposed by about half of their own national population. Beyond that they are speaking out against a president who has remove rights from us that we had under King George III.
So, if you feel they don't have a right to speak their minds, well, sit and think about it awhile. If this nation is about the right to be an individual as long as you are an individual who agrees with some narrow point of view, well, you lost me, explain it to me.
Cheers
Larry


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: John McLaughlin
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 03:13 PM

I uuseta like their muisc when they first came out, then sorta lost interest when they went a bit Nashville-blonde and all that, but they do grow on ya, don't they? Really nice fiddling. Also seem to be saying what they wanna say. You could ignore it if you don't like it. Saying "fuck em" does seem a bit of a bellow, huh? Unlikely it'll happen, big guy. I spoze a boy can dream. But roareing it like that prolly makes it less likely, huh? - John


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Kim C
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 03:12 PM

Well, here's what I have to say about that.

Sure, it's all right to have an opinion, and to express it. But I also think there's a good way and a not good way to do it. My opinion is, the way Natalie Maines did it showed a lack of class. Do I hold it against her? Nope. I know what my own toes taste like so I won't chastise her for putting her foot in her mouth.

(I can actually do this, by the way. Not that I have actually ever physically put my foot in my mouth, mind you, but I can reach my toes to my chin. Yoga must be paying off.)

I think she could have imparted a peace message in another country without making disparaging remarks about the President. As it is, she didn't really impart a peace message at all, she only disparaged the President. It might have been more appropriate to say something like, "we don't support a war with Iraq."

Anyway, I am reminded of this quote from Mark Twain: "It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them."

Bet they don't get invited to the White House anytime soon.


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 03:07 PM

They probably didn't realize they were talking to your audience, Jed. I expect they thought all those people had come to see them!

BJ


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 02:51 PM

When it's peach pickin time in the Azores
It'll be chicken neck wringin time in Texas...

Yeoddlieee oh hhh noooo


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 02:40 PM

yeah how dare they have opinions of their own....


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 02:29 PM

C'mon, Jed. Stop mincing words and tell us how you really feel.

Bruce


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: JedMarum
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 02:07 PM

I will have no problem expressing my opinion of their hateful message to my audiences. I will have no problem expressing my opinion by not purchasing the records or tickets to their shows. I will have no problem expressing my opinion on any of these brave, pampered souls who spit in the face of their own heritage.

Fuck 'em!


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 02:04 PM

At first, I thought the Dixie Chicks were just another bare belly-buttoned female pop group. Then I found out they can play and sing. Now I find out they have brains and a social conscience as well. I'm liking them better all the time!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 01:05 PM

Since when is it not o.k. to have a personal opinion??


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Subject: RE: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: InOBU
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 01:05 PM

I am putting on my new white scraf to buy my first Dixie Chicks CD.
Larry


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Subject: Review: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band
From: InOBU
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 01:04 PM

dixie_chicks

Dixie Chicks Remark Irks Country Fans

14 minutes ago
Associated Press

NASHVILLE, Tennessee - The Dixie Chicks are drawing harsh words from country

music fans for remarks singer Natalie Maines made about President George W.
Bush during a recent performance in London.
Maines told the audience earlier this week, "Just so you know, we're ashamed
the president of the United States is from Texas."
Angry phone calls flooded Nashville radio station WKDF-FM on Thursday, some

calling for a boycott of the Texas trio's music.
The group released a statement Thursday saying they have been overseas for

several weeks and "the anti-American sentiment that has unfolded here is
astounding. While we support our troops, there is nothing more frightening
than the notion of going to war with Iraq and the prospect of all the
innocent lives that will be lost."

In a separate statement Thursday, Maines said, "I feel the president is
ignoring the opinion of many in the U.S. and alienating the rest of the
world. My comments were made in frustration, and one of the privileges of
being an American is you are free to voice your own point of view."

The Dixie Chicks will kick off a U.S. tour in support of their multi-platinum
album "Home" on May 1 in Greenville, South Carolina. The group's hits include
"Wide Open Spaces," "Ready to Run" and "Landslide."


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